I completed the modification to the mower and it works perfect. I don't see a reason to buy / repair the broken starter. Thanks again.
@Magnabee97
4 жыл бұрын
Abel Villarreal check t the videos where they start power equipment with an electric drill.
@JosephSastreShowsYou
3 ай бұрын
Done good reason is that a pulley bolted to an engine is inherently unbalanced meaning that your engine bearings are going to be stressed way beyond design.
@abelvillarreal6488
8 жыл бұрын
you have saved me a bundle of money. I have two riding mowers with bad starters. Now I can buy time to save up money to have them professionally repaired. Thanks a bunch.
@Maybe-So
7 жыл бұрын
My issue is that 'lawnmower batteries' are good for a season at best. You have to keep a charger around all the time - and have it 'assist' the starting process. The issue with that, is these newer 'digital' battery chargers don't play well with mostly dead batteries, whereas the old (heavy, 'analog' or transformer) style chargers - which are nearly impossible to find these days - will work better.
@joebarefoot
7 жыл бұрын
i have one of those old 2 amp charger .i bought a MTD mower .
@mudmowerregulators9559
7 жыл бұрын
gecooley995 mower batteries will last several seasons of properly cared for in the winter months i bring mine into my inclosed porch and keep a battery tinder on them i have 2 that are 4 years old still going strong
@Curvelz
10 күн бұрын
Thanks so much man. I pulley swapped my Murray and always had problems starting it. I pretty much replaced everything, solenoid, battery, you name it, and decided to think of this. I’ll try it out, thanks again for the video.
@ridersonthestorm5730
3 жыл бұрын
I thought of doing that to mine instead of getting a new starter but feared the spinning rip cord of death or even worse... with your arm attached😕 But!!! PFFT It was easy!! I no longer fear!! I'm doing it!! I will have the privilege of an emergency rip cord in the trunk of my ride-on this weekend!!! Thanks from Australia friend👍
@MrWillibaldvongluck1
11 жыл бұрын
Great idea...I have that very motor on my tractor mower and I often thought how neat it would be to have a pull-chord option. Not so much to save on batteries, they usually last 5 years at at time but if the starter motor failed/burnt out. Thanks for posting, very clever and well demonstrated..
@partymanau
Жыл бұрын
5 yrs, mine die sitting over winter even with a trickle charger on them,
@tynewlin
Жыл бұрын
@@partymanau My current battery was made November 2019, got it at Walmart early spring 2020. Still going strong.
@jeffrandolf5673
2 ай бұрын
@@tynewlin I bet that battery is now 3 times as much, with BIDENFLATION!
@jeffrandolf5673
2 ай бұрын
Life saver. I was thinkin about this this morning as my Chrapsman LT1000 riding mower 17.5HP Brigg has he infamous broken decompression lever (internally). Started lawn mowers as a kid this way. I'm on my dirt bike when I'm 3-4 miles out in the woods.
@Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm131
9 жыл бұрын
Brother you are a life saver this idea worked great saved me from buying a new starter and starter solenoid for the time being. I Subscribed to your channel thanks again .
@whipmx6439
8 жыл бұрын
Your videos really help me, My battery died in the middle of a romp so I thought I should build this pull start really saved my ass! Keep making videos on the Murray!
@duke1281
Жыл бұрын
I have basically that exact rider except maroon.. she dead for sure... not sure if its a battery connection gone bad or what..cause the battery is only a year old.. I'm totally gonna use this method! Cause I won't always have a car around to jump start it..
@DoingItCheap
9 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO... us old timers have been doing this for years. But it is good to share with a new generation. Good video. I am amazed at the folks that did not know you could do this.
@jeffrandolf5673
2 ай бұрын
I know, right? Late 60's early 70's we had pull cords for a bunch of stuff.
@shamuslauer1
11 жыл бұрын
reallllly want to thank you. just blew my starter...and almost got rid of the free mower because of this issue. after doing this mod...one pull...and we got er runnin. now im checking over your wireing video to completely rewire the mower. thanks 1000X
@andrewholland452
11 жыл бұрын
I have been starting my mudding more with a pull start for the mower for at least a year and have never had a problem and like he said it for a back up not going to be using it every he start the tractor. I like and go by all most all the videos you have made man I like them good learning. Keep them coming
@jsmokzalot9238
2 жыл бұрын
Old video standing the test of time. Havnt done this but about to. I was thinking how to do the same thing. Saved me from a headache. Thanks
@muddymowers
11 жыл бұрын
thats a great idea @fearlessfront, i saw this video and used this technique to build a pull start on my offroad mower project! the tractor starts right up typically. i couldve used this awhile ago on my other mudding tractor when i was in the middle of a field and i went to go start it again and the starter gear finally sheared off and it wouldnt turn the engine over, thankfully i bumped it off and it sputtered back to life and drove home. this video gets a thumbs up!
@andrewbattlebuddy7418
3 жыл бұрын
I used an old v belt car water pump pulley. I have a 93 signiture 2000 MTD VTwin. Just took off the debris screen, flywheel nut and sat the pulley on and ran the nut back down, Ground a notch like you did.. starts first pull and it's 20° out! Thanks for the idea to get my woods find in order!
@WizardsMagic007
10 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a pulley so I used an old junk push mower wheel. It works great and it is easy to drill through!
@crikeycrikeys9699
4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, probably the most common thing that goes wrong on riding mowers is battery related, don't know why they don't just have them all with a pull start plus the electric so you have a way to mow if your battery is dead.
@doncook3584
Жыл бұрын
I’m same. Sick of batteries every 3 years
@jackwilliams5474
Жыл бұрын
I mean, they do have alternators. So worst case scenario put a jump box on it then it'll Charge back up once started.
@donyboy73
11 жыл бұрын
smart idea! i like the snowblower tires on the front
@OutFishedTv
11 жыл бұрын
I love this guy I watched his racing mower build for a least 8 hours
@JOEZEP54
7 жыл бұрын
Nice modification. “What’s old is new”. I had a Montgomery Wards tractor that had this as part of the engine along with the electric starter. It was used the beginning of just about every mowing season & until the end once the battery died.
@bowlweevil4161
7 жыл бұрын
when I was a kid and mowing for extra money a lot of the mowers had hand wind rope start and they never broke except the knot on the rope and you just tie another knot you should pull the spark plug wire off the spark plug any time you are rotating the engine by hand as it only has to fire one time to cut your hand or take a finger off good video thanx
@gfedorowicz
8 жыл бұрын
IT IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND NICE IDEA, TO JUST TAKE YOU OUT YOUR PULL ROPE IN A PINCH WHEN YOUR BATTERY FAILS. THIS SHOULD BE STANDARD GEAR ON ALL ELECTRIC START TWO OR FOUR CYCLE ENGINES. IT NEVER HURTS TO HAVE A BACKUP DEVICE READY TO GO. GOOD VIDEO
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, it's one of those things you dont really NEED, but your really glad you have it when you do need it!
@mattcasdorph
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, I have battery problems all the time, This is much easier than trying to find a shroud (with a recoil) for these size motors. This is such a simple idea, I love it.. Thanks
@mattcasdorph
9 жыл бұрын
Got mine done today, but I used a plastic MTD drive belt tension-er, it already had holes for the screws, I started it twice like that.. But being plastic kinda scares me, I dont know what the max RPM for that pulley is or if over time the chance of it shattering would increase, I just didn't have a metal pulley laying around anywhere.
@1medicatedomo
9 жыл бұрын
***** Every pulley on a lawnmower is made to spin at the engine's speed anyway. Probably just fine.
@mattcasdorph
9 жыл бұрын
***** You know, I never even thought about it like that, but I have since then put a metal pulley on it, but I think I need to take a file and make the cut in the pulley a little dull, as it is right now its kinda sharp and cuts my strap/rope pretty quickly.
@1medicatedomo
9 жыл бұрын
***** Round the edges really smooth.
@KapenW17
11 жыл бұрын
You Sir, are simply a lawn mower Guru!!!!!!
@Caspergroot
11 жыл бұрын
i've made it today, I just took an old mowerdeck pulley that i found an drilled 3 holes in it. it works for me my moter fired right up!!!
@100PercentOS2
9 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome. I love this. Since I had the option, I never used the electric start on my self propelled mower either. I don't have much use for electric start equipment.
@jefmichel2302
Жыл бұрын
JUST what I needed to see. Totally getting this done in the next few days.
@42lookc
8 жыл бұрын
Good job. If that cheap and chinzy bendix (or starter drive) fails way back in the boondocks, you've still got a way to start.
@rokstarwannabe
6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Reminds me of the ole Trick Trac we had on the farm when I was a kid.
@fast68chevy
7 жыл бұрын
pretty slick i am doing this to my 1999 crafstman yardman MTD since i do not have a battery or key to it and i was given it for free due to the range F N R shift rod assembly bieng gummed up and brake stuck rusted on,. which ive already disassembled and freed up and greased up new nice again. two new belts and pull start pulley on top and a toggle for ignition and new fuel hose and it will be a running mowing mower again heh, later i plan on ATV tires or at least dual rear tires on it,. and flat proof mod too.
@rchristopher821
11 жыл бұрын
This is awesome Fearless! Who wants to walk home anyways? Or push the mower back home....Great Job.
@thersten
6 жыл бұрын
It's also a great idea to always keep a pail of water around to flush the toilet when the plumbing goes out.
@benjermanvanderburg5864
5 жыл бұрын
Awsome answer.lol
@christianvoluntaristsurvival
8 жыл бұрын
thank you for this. been having issues with my john deere L100. broke the starter gear twice (once today) and the starter just has no power left to crank this thing any more. did this conversion with a crank shaft pulley from a 350 sbc. had to take the engine cover off, but mowed about 3 acres today :) no problems. still need to bypass the safety switch under the seat and i currently wedge a board to hold the clutch to start it, but hey, frankendeere is alive!!! gonna do a pulley swap sometime and see how fast i can get this thing going. :) thanks
@staind288
6 жыл бұрын
christian voluntarist survival removing the engine cover and using it prolonged under load can cause overheating. The shroud directs the air from fan blade on the fly over the fins of the head
I did that once but i used a normal pulley and welded it to the triangle thing. then torched out the center so i could still get to the big nut. Works good.
@msarky
11 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid You don't need to notch the pulley if you overlap the cord.I've found if you don't smooth the cut enough it could hold the cord and pull back.
@86f150ovrlandr
11 жыл бұрын
I'm gunna do this cuz my flywheel is missing teeth and the starter won't grab. Thanks Fearless! You just saved me from replacing the flywheel!
@tommypitts4377
3 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy this is what a lawnmower came equipped with and you would tie the rope to the handle once you crank it and start cutting grass
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
the short version: drain the oil and fuel remove the top cover and then the flywheel remove the carb and the exhaust remove the head, and the pushrods if its an ohv turn the motor upside down, and remove the bottom crankcase cover once inside, remove the cam and lifters (NOTE the alignment dots on the gears) unbolt the connecting rod, and slide the piston out after that I think you can slide the crank out. I may have forgotten a few things, but thats about it
@jonathanisaman1389
9 жыл бұрын
Works great on my yardmachine 12.5HP HUSKEE engine thanks man great video
@louisbrule46
8 ай бұрын
Awesome !! Did the same idea with my Yamaha 1000 sled ( but with a strap and Velcro )
@louisbrule46
8 ай бұрын
Around the clutch
@yourindarkness
10 жыл бұрын
that look like a great idea . if I was going to do it I would want to have the cover on it and still be able to do it like a push mower design spring setup so the rope go back up side around the pully but that might be a trouble if you are using the key switch
@lestergeez4349
2 ай бұрын
I'm about to try that cord idea. My aftermarket starter chewed he teeth off my ring gear, so I bought a pulley and a lawn mower cord. It's a cheaper fix than replacing the flywheel and starter. Thanks for the cool idea!
@JFinne9
11 жыл бұрын
OK, I LOLed at "Centrifugal pull-starting cord of terror"
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, it works good in a pinch! good luck on your build, it can feel a lot like work at times!
@carsondyer4311
10 жыл бұрын
just did this to my friends ride-on mower, works like a "hot damn"! so convenient.
@klausbrinck2137
8 ай бұрын
Remember to first turn the engine by hand till you reach just beyond the point of peak compression (just after the 2nd stroke´s end, 3rd stroke´s begin), in order to not waste any of your effort/pull-power. Then place the rope and pull... That means, the notch will be at the same position, every time you´re about to wind the rope. Hence, you can cut/adjust the rope-length accordingly. Else, well done !!!
@doncook3584
Жыл бұрын
Wow precision job on centering pulley no wobble!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
yeah! there are lots of tips! look around my channel, pretty much every video has tips or modifications that you can do. Start small, then improve what you need to as you ride it.
@Ultra4115_
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, my old ct151's starter burned out and there's nowhere to add on a pull start so I'll bodge up one of these with an old rim or something. I actually have a starting rope system like that on an old 1940s rotovator I bought a while ago. Works well Edit: was gonna buy a new starter straight away but there like £100 for a brand new one so I'll leave it for a bit because ita just a stupid project on the farm :)
@ziggy8951
9 жыл бұрын
Cool. my dad had a smaal walk behind garden tractor from late 50's early 60's that had a similar device madw as the starter mechanism. I might suggest that to test it when you first make it, disconnect the spark-plug. that way you can be sure the rope doesn't hang on the pulley.....
@WavyGravyTrain1
11 жыл бұрын
I hope you have the plow ready for the lifted mower because there is another snow storm headed our way over the weekend.
@MrSticklebricks
11 жыл бұрын
we have a Westwood ride on mower and it won't keep the battery charged so I think I will try this. thanks mate for a great idea.
@Rehabcycles
11 жыл бұрын
hey fearless, im a big admirer of yours and love the rompin vids, how-to's, and other crazy creafions of yours. i took an interest in offroad mowers, racers, and a classic lawn mower of my own, and am looking to improve my channel, videos and also mowers! i would love to gear your thoughts and suggestions!!! and also i think you should try to throw a junk mower together out of the parts n pieces you dont need/use around the shop just for the hell of it! keep up the advice and great videos!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
thats right! so now we have to get creative and find ways to put them back on.
@snoopdogie187
7 жыл бұрын
I think most of these riding mowers engines are used in applications that use pull start instead of electric start. Generators seem to always have a pull start, and other random configurations. You can just find the parts that match your engine and do this correctly like it came from the factory.
@bigbros8637
7 жыл бұрын
hi I'm Zak the easy pull start for mowers really helped me out
@harveyjoneswoodsman5956
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect just what the doctor ordered I have bad voltage regulator on my toro 16-38 makes it a pain in the ass when I need to use it this will solve the problem
@freezerburn04
6 жыл бұрын
Nice solution, thanks! I have an old mini bike (Super Bronc) and ride it in very remote Chickaloon, Alaska. I only have manual start on the 10 hp Tecumseh but want to have a backup method in case the primary recoil rope breaks.I'm going to take the recoil off and see what I can wrap a rope around for just in case. Thanks again, fb
@Fearlessfront
10 жыл бұрын
absolutely! if you can get the pulley on there, you should be able to pull it over
@robinj357
9 жыл бұрын
Love tha mods, I've built a john Deere with what you've taught me with the videos. Keep up the good work.
@ClayKickersOutdoors
6 ай бұрын
Experienced the pull cord of death today. Had like a 7ft long rope and after like the 5th try it finnaly started and sent the cord out of my hand coiled around the pully smashed the handle into the screw that holds the airfilter on sheering it off and sending the handle into orbit.
@briancullen5183
2 жыл бұрын
Used to be done on older tractors. Had it on old Allis Chalmers.
@JunkStarBuilds
11 жыл бұрын
Another winning video! Mind throwing that on the forum? at first I thought you were doing it to the lifted one, but then i realized it was your murray! You know this might be better then lugging heavy batteries round..makes for extra space for something..
@duckflynn3849
11 ай бұрын
Some of those engines came with both electric and pull start options I have one that came off of a 12 horsepower briggy and strapon motor then I also have a electric start on was on Ariens riding lawn mower. That's a great way to save 50 bucks and lose some of your digits all in one shot good job buddy
@williamberger8715
Жыл бұрын
Great idea. But why didn't you leave the debris screen under the pulley? It's very important for the cooling to keep the cylinder fins clear
@wiggitywhitefox
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I am going to make this modification with confidence to a old mower now too I think
@classic287
7 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. I need this right now because my starter isn't working for some reason.
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I wish I had done this long ago, I've had it die on me in some bad spots with a bad battery... had to push it, it sucked! lol
@WilliamSeibertwillis923
11 жыл бұрын
my 74' bolens G-10, with a tecumseh HH100 has one on it. is on the outside of the cooling fan intake. it also has a starter generator. it uses a v-belt around the same groove, so in order to use the pull start, you have to remove said belt... but it is helpful, like in my case, where my starter blew while i was plowing. 3 bolts removed the starter and still today i start it with the cord... they thought of everything back then
@kylekoch865
9 жыл бұрын
Worked perfect on my mower! Thanks for the free fix for a shitty starter fearlessfront
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
I've seen it done somewhere I can't remember where it was but the guy used a little tiny Honda alternator. it's definitely a really good idea.
@420rebel3
9 жыл бұрын
I love this idea of the pull start. I DO NOT have a battery for my 1983 Gilson Garden Tractor with a 18hp B&S. So with not having a battery & don't want to worry about buying one, so what do I do with my cables that would normally be attached to the battery? Thanks for your help & keep up the great work. I'm loving your youtube channel, it's very helpful.
@ronniefaisstfan687
4 жыл бұрын
this is a great modification that I need for my mower that won't start
@grishfish
5 жыл бұрын
"pullstarting cord of terror".... I was waiting to see what you called it if it doesn't come off. That's an appropriate name.
@wingking077
2 жыл бұрын
You should notch the other side of the pully as well for balancing, good way to throw a bearing if weight is off
@BDSSYJ
11 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I watch all your videos. I have recently gotten a 92 Murray with a 12hp B/S and I will definitely be doing this modification this weekend along with the gas pedal mod and choke mod...
@kentagion
8 жыл бұрын
check it out then, make a tin box to hinge onto the front of the shroud you can have round holes in it or slots for vents, then you can flip that back over the motor to avoid debris entering or possibly clothing getting caught, good job, I knew this could be done, we did it to one of those cheap harbor freight generators, only we had no cover over the flywheel to it was start it and move out.great job
@The_Gallowglass
Жыл бұрын
I've started doing that with my push mower. They wanted $40 for a replacement recoil spring as of 2023.
@PainlessVW
11 жыл бұрын
great idea im so doing this to my racing tractor and ditching everysingle wire to shave it and make it show worthy!
@sig6056
Жыл бұрын
This is what I was going to do, glad it works!
@Snoopsy100
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome........ Just gave my mower life..... Thank you man!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
if you do that then the pulley will sit way down in the blower housing, it would make it tougher to get a rope around it. At least thats what I think... You could give it a try, but make sure you torque that flywheel nut back down
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
you should make a video response then! post it, i'll approve it! I'd love to see other peoples ideas
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
I bet it could be. but it would have to attach to the motor differently though. I have never done it myself
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
is it installed in a mower? sometimes if they sit for a long time, the belts will actually stick to the pulleys like glue, and the motor wont turn over.. I've seen it before. check underneath it and see if the belts are stuck
@3DMachines
11 жыл бұрын
i mounted a snow blower recoil on mine but the gearing wasnt right so after 10 pulls it broke.
@Workingmansmuddingnh
11 жыл бұрын
I did this to on a 17 hp b&s you can also on my application use the flywheel built instead of bullying it down to we're the plastic disk would go it works really good and fires right up good video fearlessfront keep up the good work man
@ThunderDivine
11 жыл бұрын
Nice, you can enlarge those other holes beside the 3 used if you are unsure if it gets enough cooling.
@Fatmankad
11 жыл бұрын
I did something like that on my lifted Murray mower but I used a metal cup like thing that actually came off of a 5 hp tiller motor that already had the notch in it and it just bolted down to the engine with the big center nut for the flywheel also I had to spin the engine over by hand past the compression stroke because the compression would rip the cord out of my hand without a little momentum to start lol
@IAMSTEVIERAYBITCH
9 жыл бұрын
Thank You that is by far the best Idea i didn't have Lol. Thanks again I cant wait to use this idea
@MudJoe821
11 жыл бұрын
I did this awoke ago. The only thing I did different is I cut two "fan" notches in the pulley so air gets pushed into the motor. Basically a turbo.
@Tristan102100
11 жыл бұрын
most briggs engines are 1 pull hot start and 2 cold start. i haven't extencivley modified my 20 hp future mudder tractor yet so i wrap a rope around the mower pulley.(the same 1 pul hot start 2 pull cold start for my 20 hp,but it is easy to dis-locate your shoulder while doing so with a 20 hp! i almost did!) didn't want to modify it to a pull start because i am getting a new electric start tomorrow. :D
@KeystoneMotorsports
11 жыл бұрын
Now I gotta do this. I got a 12.5 without a starter and a broken head gasket, so once my gasket comes in shes gotta turn over somehow! Thanks!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
ya, the snow makes i tough. once it's gone, there will be lots of mud. I have a test drive video of the murray coming soon. I hope to do some romping with a fellow youtuber, or 2, sometime soon.
@OutbackKanga
11 жыл бұрын
Yep seen it happen all to often . besides pull starting an engine that size is asking for a sprained shoulder when it does kick back if nothing else , thats why Briggs dont put them on the engines much any more .
@adambartholomew518
11 жыл бұрын
I jus fried my second selenoid today on my oppy n and hadda getta tow lol. Deff need to figure tht one out for my motor tomo....thanks fearlessfront!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
Good deal man! starters can get pricey! this mod is super cheap and easy!
@Fearlessfront
11 жыл бұрын
These Murray's are tough little rigs!
@michaelbradford4444
2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend unplugging the spark plugs on your first pull just to make sure that it the rope comes free, that's what I'm gonna do .
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