Thanks. A sponge and rubber band! Great! Works perfectly - after wrestling with an adjustable rest for ages. I have now settled on a piece of rigid foam packing, velcro'd to the body under the chin rest. Fits into the case too.
@bigbearjohn
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos. You are an EXCELLENT teacher. I truly enjoy watching you. I learn so much.
@reyhanrdty
11 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful for beginner! thanks Allison !
@nancyduncan8285
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, but sometimes hard to see the black shoulder rests against the instructor's black dress.
@RunsWithScissor5
13 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so so much for your videos! I took violin lessons for a year and then I had to stop. I've decided to take it up again (at 30!) and am using the Suzuki method. These videos are a great help, especially since I"m teaching myself (or trying to, at least :P). I was wondering if it would be possible for you to post a video sometime of how to get a nice bow hold. I just can't seem to get a comfortable hold. Again, thank you!
@AllysonsViolinStudio
11 жыл бұрын
I guess so! Didn't think of it.
@kamikan22
6 жыл бұрын
ergonomic tip: when you ditch your shoulder rest, dont place your arm at the same angle as the one the shoulder rest make you have, because the arm/body weight wont be efficient to support the violin(when the arm is away from the center of the body, the arm needs more force to support the same). Less angle, the armpit almost closed, and the elbow below the instrument are some ints to get there where you will be supporting it while relaxed(meaning you are not grabbing anything) anyways like everything, it needs to be explored you can google "rest no more" for more understatement
@AllysonsViolinStudio
6 жыл бұрын
The elbow should always be under the violin. The violin should be resting on the collarbone and the shoulder not involved if one wishes to play without a shoulder rest. It is necessary to lift the violin with the upper arm in order to play well, without a shoulder rest, and long hours in this position may aggravate or cause more injuries than playing with a shoulder rest, so I personally don't advocate this for general playing, although I do like to play some repertoire without a shoulder rest.
@kamikan22
6 жыл бұрын
Weird, I actually do this because is the only way I found to play for as long as I want pain free. And this is because I never lift the violin, it is supported by the arm in front of me the ways you described, the only time the arm will be tired is if I am actively practicing new things like figuring out vibrato without shoulder support or things like that, but that is true for every physical learning. Anyway I could only learned that after I learned to be in tune using the instrument harmony(don't know if this have a name because, sadly noone seems to teach this, instead they make their students suffer with double stops lol) For me, I feel that the only time you don't feel the shoulder rest annoyance is when your muscles are too tight to feel anything haha
@AllysonsViolinStudio
6 жыл бұрын
If you have found a position that eliminates pain and you are getting good sounds out of your violin, that's what is important. Each person is a little different, of course. To play different types of music using the upper positions, one needs to have the violin high enough that the strings are horizontal - this gives the left hand enough room to run around the fingerboard. Usually this is not possible without either lifting the violin, using a shoulder rest, or wearing a proper suit jacket (which gives a pretty good support to the violin!) Most people I see playing without a shoulder rest are hunching up their shoulder, which usually leads to injuries, although you can get away with it for a surprising number of years. Or if the violin is more to the front, it is usually drooping downwards. But there are many micro-variations about angles and people's shapes and arm length and such. It does depend a lot on our shape - look at videos of David Oistrakh and then Joshua Bell...two extremely different violinists! I hope you're having fun playing now that you've found a way to eliminate discomfort.
@kamikan22
6 жыл бұрын
Probably your way of approaching both things can make you switch on-the fly from one to another which is probably a good balance Thanks for the informative replys. By no lifting I meant I don't use arm strength to handle the weight(which most of it is actually sitting on the collarbone I believe)... is weird to explain.. is more of a cross-discipline thing. And yeah, most people will grab the instrument like they do with a shoulder rest, I only use the chin contact to stop unwanted movements of the instruments, and when I was starting the new vibrato I had the reflex to use some shoulder to stabilize and have better vibrato faster, but I was going to the no-shoulder approach so I kept exploring and the shoulder seized . I will look to Oistrahk and Bell! thanks, obviously there are a bunch of ways of playing that reach excellent results but trying to improve our own body posture and with that the whole violin philosophy is essential to keep doing this for forever haha! Also, is there any didactic book, paper, video about going no shoulder rest, maybe baroque? I feel since the shoulder rest is on play, the old ways became forgotten or like a secret!
@AllysonsViolinStudio
6 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with any publications, but in the forums on violinist.com there are some interesting discussions. Remember that the old ways worked with old music. Shoulder rests and chin rests were developed as music changed and the way we play the instrument changed. For baroque music it is best to have no chinrest or shoulder rest. If you look at the old violin treatises by Mozart (father), Geminiani and Pierre Baillot there is much of interest.
@liuc94chek
11 жыл бұрын
really magnificus how we say in italy
@NOalRAZZISMO
11 жыл бұрын
It would have helped more if you were wearing something like a white shirt!
@jacquicarias-violinist378
11 жыл бұрын
wow. Thank you!!!! :)
@williamvanginkel3758
10 жыл бұрын
See a qualified luthier that can measure correctly and who can see if you need a different chin rest. You will save a lot of money doing that and have comfort by developing a better posture. W. Van Ginkel
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