Hi Tom! For those who really need to run audio directly to camera or ATEM Mini, using a device which converts from a balanced signal, which is what the RCP is using on its outputs, to unbalanced 3.5mm on most cameras is the most reliable way to send audio to a camera. That way you can run the balanced cables as long as you need and then convert and run a very short 3.5mm unbalanced cable from the converter to the camera. The ART Cleanbox Pro does the job nicely.
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
Oh, and also it takes care of the conversion between line on the RODECaster and microphone level on the camera.
@portersblackboard
Жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd What a surprise finding you here! I am looking to use the ART Cleanbox Pro for the high pitch tone and low volume in my ATEM mini. (no audio input on my camera ). I want to make sure that I am going to purchase the right device for my Focusrite 2. Is this the correct device? ART CLEANBOX Bi-Directional Level Matching Stereo Converter Box - XLR and RCA I/O Connectors MFR #CLEANBOXPRO
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this insight Curtis! You’re the best.
@timwilkins3621
11 ай бұрын
Curtis, I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge with others. Thanks!
@petecrouch8277
11 ай бұрын
Hi @curtisjudd I really like the sound of the art clean box, and think it is exactly what I need to go between my Rodecaster pro2 and my Atem mini extreme. Could you share the cable configuration, as it looks like the clean box will only accept phono inputs? Many thanks
@AndrewBreault
9 ай бұрын
Glad to know I am not the only one experiencing this annoying issue. I honestly thought I was just not setting the inputs and outputs to the correct line level, or that I was having some kind of ground issue. Looks like you just saved me 2 years of troubleshooting. :D Thanks!!!
@leonardboyer7601
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom for your help and prompt response. I really appreciate it. The Yolobox Ultra is going to be my next purchase. Its very good how both companies support and listen to their customers.
@radiomayapur
4 ай бұрын
I only record the Rodecaster audio in the ATEM for one reason. I use a clapboard to start all the video recordings. That audio snap of the clapboard goes into the Rodecaster, then into the ATEM on the audio track for the master video with all the ATEM camera cuts. I am also recording the Rodecaster audio in Hindenburg DAW. When I edit the video, I cut the Rodecaster audio in the Hindenburg DAW right at the snap of the clapboard, and then in Filmora, I align the Rodecaster snap perfectly with the snap in the ATEM video recording on its audio track. I then unlink the ATEM audio track and delete it, leaving only the edited and vastly superior sound of the Rodecaster audio modified for great sound in Hindenburg. Providing a perfect sound and perfect mouth movement to the audio track.
@johnhurlbut
Жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks for the video, gave me some stuff to think about. I'm starting a podcast that's also live streamed. Right now I have the setup you don't recommend. So I have the RCPII, the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO. I'm running 3 cameras into the ATEM - Sony A7iv, Sony A6400 and GoPro Hero 10 Black. I have the RCPII connected to the ATEM by 3.5mm to 1/4" split into the Monitor Outputs on the RCPII. I'm running 3 Sure SM7B mics Via XLR into the RCPII. The ATEM is connected via USB-C to my MacStudio and I use EVMUX to do the live streams. I like having everything running into the ATEM simply because it creates the Davinci Resolve project and I have all the audio and video in that one project. If I split out the Audio and Video, so I would remove the 3.5mm to 1/4" split to break the connection from the ATEM to the RCPII, then the Davinci Resolve Project would be audio-less and I'd just have to import the Audio file from the RCPII to sync it? I would also then connect the RCPII to USB on my Mac Studio so that EVMUX would see the RCPII as the Audio Source and the ATEM as the Video Source? Here's a link to one of my episodes if you want to see/hear how it sounds? kzitem.info/news/bejne/1X2es4qipKqHaKw
@ErikOstapenkoGamer
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Davis wow great ! I’m using Yolobox pro and Sony zve10 and Sony 6400 for vlogging and sport streaming . Using rode wireless go II . Thinking about to purchase the Sure SM7B and Rodecaster pro 2 for better audio quality. What about noise like Tom that’s told?
@TwithGazz
6 ай бұрын
An ISO transformer on each channel send from any mixer is all you need. Any cables will work for you. I use Samson MLI1. Best thing is the ML1 has a multi input XLR so you can send jack to jack or jack to xlr or whatever configuration fits the output on your mixer. Then run the mono jacks to 3.5mm jack out the other side of the ML1's to the ATEM Mini. Trust me. I found this solution years ago when I'd had enough of the ground loop issue with the ATEM mini 3.5mm mic socket. I even had the issue using balanced digital mixer outputs. Not sure what Blackmagic was thinking when they designed the audio input on the mini? But it's not great.
@JorgeLG
Жыл бұрын
Hello Tom, I got for the first time the RodeCaster Pro… it was second hand but great condition and half price… I was thinking about how amazing it will be if we could use one pad to play a play list of music and I was hoping if you could tell them about it since you have direct contact with Rode. Thanks for everything you do.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I can definitely share my input, but it's also a good idea for you and any other customers to send requests to them too (either directly or via social media). They really do listen!
@maverickgolf
Жыл бұрын
What did I miss, in regards to whatever this ATEM machine is? I thought everything could be done with the Rodecaster Pro?? Provide a link to a video that explains why and what it is, please, @tombuck??
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
It's an HDMI video switcher (so basically what the Rodecaster does for audio, this does for video). kzitem.info/news/bejne/mGqVnGF7mp1pamk
@maverickgolf
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck thanks so much for the reply! Love the channel, bud! This is my brand spanking new golf channel that I’m watching from, mainly. But my wife and I are starting a video podcast this coming year called @lifesriddlespodcast and so I was curious as to what this piece of equipment is. Again, huge fan! Happy New Year!
@dez5
Жыл бұрын
use only shielded cables when dealing with video and audio.
@UKRenna
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, great video. I fully agree. Let each device do exactly what it is designed to do. In this example I would let the Procaster 2 handle audio sources, the ATEM video switching and the camera video. Then let great software such as OBS handle streaming, recording or both. The audio issue you have highlighted is because the inputs and outputs are not balanced, apart from the master out on the Procaster 2. The reason the black cable sounds better is because it is shorter.
@salussolutions4638
8 ай бұрын
Will Davinci software perform the function of receiving the sound and video inputs? Sorry if this is an obvious question, we’re very new to this.
@cameronfous
11 ай бұрын
Im connecting the 3.5mm to 6.5mm L/R from my Sony FX3 to the rodcaster II... Doesnt work its not picking up the audio on the camera. I have two rode casters and two fx3's ... Didnt work on either. Using a Ugreen cable
@TomRayo
Жыл бұрын
Rodecaster has a line output, Atem has a mic input. The line signal causes interference. Set Atem or camera to line input.
@cedricvillani8502
Жыл бұрын
2:24 a 3.5 to 1/4 TRS, and all that ride caster stuff is kinda pointless, just get a BlackMagic PCIe 8K card controls on the PC, this has saved people thousands by sending back there BM rack solutions, with that savings, you can now afford BlackMagic DaVinci Resolve Micro Pannel or the keyboard 🎹. Anyway if you haven’t tried the BlackMagic 8K PCIe Card yet then I think you should, if you don’t like it just return it 😂 but you won’t , sry didn’t mean to step on all your Affiliate links but but you did just show a Frankenstein setup that I doubt your happy with
@chrprior
4 ай бұрын
Why deal with the unreliable 3.5mm jack on the ATEM Minis when you can embed the signal into HDMI? No actual camera input needed, I use a ~50€ china-made "HDMI Audio Embedder HDMI2.0 4K60Hz 18G HDR" device with a 3.5mm input labelled "line in" from Amazon. Supposedly the "Lindy 38203" will do the same. My daily webcam for work is a relatively affordable HuddleCam Pro/Konftel 20 with HDMI out. The HDMI embedder into that signal turns the ATEM Mini as the **USB Webcam** (from Windows perspective) into a versatile device that needs no driver installation or companion software (try that in the corporate world).
@Yourguitarworkshop
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, I wonder if you could use an RCA to HDMI or AV to HDMI converter and just use the audio part and route the audio from the Rodecaster to the atem mini. You would lose one HDMI port but you would be able to use the Rodecaster preamps and have the signal go through the Camera preamps or through the mic input of the ATEM mini.
@multeemedia
Жыл бұрын
What I do in situations like this not just for The RCP II but other devices is use a ground loop isolator with a 3.5mm input and output on the headphone jack. It has a transformer it will not only reduce noise but also attenuate the signal. You could also use a direct box with passthrough on xlr, a bit overkill, or even use the radial brand of isolator which i use for connecting a laptop to a mixer. They also sell other types as well that I think would work well in this situation.
@ShawnButts
Жыл бұрын
Ground loop isolator is pretty much a requirement when connecting equipment via analog audio. Having different power supplies has to be account for in the electrical paths. GL isolators is usually the easiest/cheapest solution. But, not always.
@petertroxler5868
Жыл бұрын
To improve on this: use a stereo DI box (Behringer has one with 3,5 mm TRS input), run your signal through 2 balanced XLR cables and convert it back to unbalanced with a reamp (which quickly becomes an expensive solution). I have not found one with a stereo TRS output...
@JrMcG
Жыл бұрын
Another +1 for a $10 ground loop isolator.
@ac1320
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, GLI don't work with the RCP to camera setup. I've tried attenuators, GLI, both at same time, DI box, several power outlet setups. No luck.
@AZisk
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately just a passive DI box doesn’t work to remove the noise. You need an active converter to go from balanced to unbalanced. I use the ART Cleanbox to take care of this, which allows me to run any length balanced xlr cable to the box, then a short, unbalanced 3.5mm run through a passive isolator into the ATEM. Noise gone
@2BeBluntPodcast
Жыл бұрын
I just wish my rodecaster 2 didn't have the latency issue. I've been dying to use mine, but none of the updates seem to help. Thank god for my RCP1
@LetsCelebrateTV
Жыл бұрын
From my experience, this problem is not just a problem between Atem and RCP. The real issue is that cameras and the ATEM are unbalanced signals with most mixers are balanced output. When you just do a cable conversion, but haven't resolved the balanced to unbalanced conversion. Without that conversion, you introduce noise. Something like the Art Cleanbox resolves this. You go out 1/4" to 1/4" into the the Cleanbox and then it has 3.5 out both balanced and unbalanced. Then all that is needed is make sure the Atem is set to line level and not mic level.
@PiperBlush
Жыл бұрын
instead of changing cable did you set your audio pref to LINE ?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I should've mentioned it in the video, but yes 👍
@nikrica1
Жыл бұрын
Great video - very informative. I was wondering if you can just record the sound through a microphone and the rødecaster and then sync it in post?
@AsadKhanMA
Жыл бұрын
Select line option from black magic software’s and the hiss is gone
@2krazyketos
Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with running the audio from one of the headphone ports to the atem mini? That’s what I do and I have never noticed an issue. Of the 4 headphones, one runs to my atem mini, one to my BmPCc, and then 2 of them run to headphones for podcasts
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
That's true, it can totally be a solution. I used to do that with the original RCP, but found that the audio quality wasn't the same as a "true" output, but that could be different with the RCP2.
@MarcusJohnHenryBrown
Жыл бұрын
I solved the interference problem with a Palmer PLI 04. You might want to have a look at it as an option.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation!
@tacticalg6686
Жыл бұрын
Mr Marcus , would you be so kind to explain how can I connect the PLI-04 between the Rodecaster and the atem mini? Thanks for your input.
@ykhemani
Жыл бұрын
I hate dealing with with unbalanced audio. The nature of this space is noise -- it can be bad or worse, but it's never good. It's just a world fraught with tears. It would be amazing if the ATEM Mini and the Rodecaster Pro II got together and had a baby! While that may not happen, I would love to see Blackmagic add balanced audio inputs on the ATEM Mini line! I would also love to see RODE add more balanced outputs (mixes)! Thank you, Tom! Super grateful for what you do! Happy New Year!
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you too!
@AZisk
Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is the root of the problem - Rode outputs balanced audio, but the ATEM doesn't have balanced audio inputs. I hope to see that change in the next version. Anyway, I solved this problem by using a separate little box that converts balanced to unbalanced, and now I have zero noise. I left a comment with a video link I made to describe the setup, but not sure if that will come through with youtube filters and all.
@jessesng1970
Жыл бұрын
@@AZisk Send your audio via HDMI into one of the ATEM video channels to avoid the noise issues and then treat it as an audio-only channel. The only missing thing is the ability to control the audio delay, but you can set that on your Rodecaster Pro.
@AZisk
Жыл бұрын
@@jessesng1970 camera preamps are usually pretty bad so you won’t get best sound that way. also, if you plan on streaming there will be a delay in audio going via hdmi, so you’ll still need to do some kind of separate monitoring solution. but this may work for some
@steve122151
Жыл бұрын
I worked in broadcast TV for a number of years and we had a project where we had noise when we needed to feed audio from one set of gear to another much as you're getting from the Rodecaster pro 2 to the camera. The only way we found to eliminate it was to use 100% oxygen free copper cable. That worked really well, but those cables were horribly expensive!
@williamhouston559
10 ай бұрын
I Oxygen free copper has nothing to do with it. It's the shielding that makes the difference.
@adrianmaganafotografo7544
6 ай бұрын
podria ser la solucionun aislador de bucle de tierra
@90fabiand
Жыл бұрын
Does the rodecaster record audio on its own? Or does it always have to record to a computer?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
It has excellent internal recording, which is actually what it was originally built for. But over time, it's evolved into a pretty feature-rich interface.
@90fabiand
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck for podcasting, would it be better to record to a rodecaster and transfer the file to your broadcasting account? Or record to your computer vía garage band, audacity, etc?
@laceybarratt
5 ай бұрын
Hey Tom! I’ve connected my rodecaster pro 2 into my atem mini pro mic 1 input to capture all my audio from my rodecaster and snag it into my atem. I used the Y cable you suggested and then bought a grounding box thinggo (that’s probably not helpful- I’m no audio tech LOL) and the grounding box balanced the signal (as you probably know rode is balanced and atem is unbalanced.) The box fixed that squeal/interference and I now have delicious audio and synced directly from my rodecaster to my atem. In case you haven’t found a solution yet! ✨
@sergiofernandezgiraldo
Ай бұрын
@@laceybarratt do you have a link or brand name you could share for the grounding box thinggo!? 🤣
@NickNimmin
Жыл бұрын
I always love the colors in your videos, they look so great!
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! 🙌
@aaronpk
Жыл бұрын
I've had pretty good luck with the little $10 ground loop isolators. I needed one to connect my Zoom F6 recorder into my Lumix camera otherwise I get the buzzing like you demonstrated. The little isolator does the trick nicely though.
@laceybarratt
5 ай бұрын
Yes! Came here to suggest the ground loop too! Only my comment I didn’t call it that- I called it a ground box thinggo 😅😂 Your comment was much more accurate and succinct haha
@MarkusKnapp
Жыл бұрын
Tom, another great episode in your channel, love it! ❤ Off-topic question: Are these mini-XLR cables in your headphones here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/zaev16qoa5aXdZg ? Looking desperately for *coloured* cables for my Beydynamics headphones... Any tip/link for me?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Those are the Rode cables they make for the NTH-100. I love them. They'll work with other headphones too. 👍
@beardedkirby
Жыл бұрын
I do a pre recorded video podcast. I have a Sony zv e10 that I use a micro hdmi to hdmi. I utilize programs like riverside or squadcast to record. I purchased the atem mini pro and I just could not get any camera signal to come through. I'm not trying to do a live stream I just want to be able to switch to different cameras while I record? Any guidance will be appreciated 🙏
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I saw your comment on the other video, but just in case, the first thing I always check is the cable- sometimes they just go bad or aren't compatible. I can't remember for sure, but there may also be a menu setting in the ZV-E10 where you need to enable HDMI output.
@dorukaras
Жыл бұрын
Did you have any problems in Rodecaster Pro 2 Beta Firmware 1.08 version ?? Would you recommend this update or would it be better to wait? thank you :):):
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I've been updating to all of the beta firmwares and have found them to be pretty stable overall. I did see that they pushed out a new bug-fix update yesterday, but I haven't installed it yet. For important work, I stick to the official releases though.
@liothomasart
Жыл бұрын
Lewitt solve that problem, Lewitt Connect 6 is just amazing for streaming overall. Plus the size is amazing. Nothing to take away from the Rodecaster pro.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I just got the Connect 6 myself and am really excited to experiment with it. Seems pretty awesome!
@HeresMo
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't tell a difference, but i'm on a surface pro at low volume since it's 2am here and I don't want to wake the fam. Also can you link your Atem stand. EDIT: Could using a gold jack adaptor work?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Oof, that's a tough one. It might be worth looking into some sort of tech backpack that has room for tablets/laptops. Honestly, the best option though is probably to get a hard case with foam that you can customize to fit the RCP along with mics/cables/etc.
@OERVLivestreamKanal
9 ай бұрын
Hey guys! First of all, thanks Tom, Curtis, learning a lot about sound for our livestreams and we are getting better :) Just to add my experience. I never had a hum or buzz but instead some crackling random noise on the cable connection from the RCP II to the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO. No matter which cable I used and the cleanbox did not filter that out. After some more experimenting and cable trial/error (the one that Tom suggested is not available in Europe) I succeeded using two mono 1/4" to XLR male cables (9ft) from the monitor out and a 2x female XLR to 3.5mm into the ATEM and there is absolutely no noise anymore not matter how hard I crank up the gain and the ATEM headphone volume to check. I can provide the link to the cable if it is acceptable in the comments here.
@tombuck
9 ай бұрын
Definitely feel free to share the link! That's for offering some additional insight and resources. 🙏
@OERVLivestreamKanal
8 ай бұрын
Not sure why but my posts disappear..
@cwichura
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the core issue here is that the 3.5mm inputs on the camera and the ATEM are unbalanced inputs. That means they are more susceptible to RF and EMI. What's more, the monitor outs on the RCP are actually balanced outs (meaning they really want a TRS cable). While it is more expensive, the "correct" way to do this is use balanced cables out from the RCP (get short TRS to XLR adapter cables so you can then use however long XLRs you want -- avoids the issue you mention with reaching the camera if it's far away). Then use a transformer-based balanced to unbalanced converter box (Radial makes a few, for example) and then you will need your Y cable to go into the camera/ATEM. You want these closer to the camera as then you get the benefit of balanced transmission for the long distance part of the run. If the camera has XLR inputs (such as with an addon audio handle, or more professional cine cameras) then you are golden as that allows balanced all the way through. You just need the TRS to XLR adapter. Curtis Judd did a live show a couple months ago where he addressed this issue and demoed a couple of the Radial boxes and how they eliminated the noise. I don't recall the video title to go searching for, unfortunately.
@PaulSyng
Жыл бұрын
Use the Rode Wireless Go to send the audio from the Rodecaster to the camera and you won't be restricted by cables or have any interference!
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Hooray for wireless!
@donniebrown1041
4 ай бұрын
Is there an app that automatically syncs audio I don’t have a laptop at the moment I’m using my iPad Pro.
@tombuck
4 ай бұрын
I THINK so, but I couldn't tell you exactly what offhand. I'm not sure if Final Cut or iPad has auto-sync, but I think Resolve might. Either way, if you can clap on screen when you start recording then you can line up the audio spike with the visual of the clap and everything will be synced.
@DannyLiveClipz
8 ай бұрын
After Months trying to fix this issue (the buzz/hum) I found a great Solution! Connect an AUX cable from your Rodecaster to the ATEM mini! Problem solved! No hum or buzz AT ALL!!
@DannyLiveClipz
8 ай бұрын
Also you’ll be able to control sound with the Rodecaster 👍
@DaeminSong
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried to connect RCP through xlr-k3m? I know you use FX3, so I guess something didn't work out.. but been alway curious. Great video Tom.
@tortohare2803
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering that as well…
@Fortytwoflat
Жыл бұрын
I have an fx6 so it makes this whole thing even more complicated. I have the rode caster pro 2 and the iso stem sdi. And there just not a lot of hood options
@cloudbase7799
Жыл бұрын
This is helpful, thank you! I plan to try recording audio and video separately and directly and editing/syncing in post OR connecting a Rodecaster Pro and ATEM Mini Pro by USB to a computer and recording on the computer. I was thinking of picking up a Radial Engineering Pro-Iso or J-Iso and some 1/4" TRS to XLR adapters or cables.
@CoffeeTalkandTechJohnRyan
Жыл бұрын
I beleive you are going from the rcp2 balanced outputs to the atem's unbalanced inputs which are 2 different levels. Never have done this but I'm pretty sure you have to use some sort of converter. HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you and Heather.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, that makes sense! Honestly, it's such a headache I just prefer to avoid the whole thing. Happy New Year!!
@bleunoirmobile
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: try using a XLR cable with the Røde VXLR Pro adapter. The adapter will convert the balanced signal from the XLR cable to the 3,5mm cable that your camera need. Of course, try to keep the 3,5mm (male x male) cable as short as possible. The balanced (XLR) cable « should » help (!) to prevent any kind of noise (electronic, static, EMI, etc) to mix with the analog (3,5mm) connexion. Btw, I just love your video thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Love also your humorous language. 😂 I used to be a creative at Apple some time ago. It shows in your presentation. 😊
@avantgardenovelist
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great channel. I was wondering: which audio streaming is better quality (to stream directly to youtube): 1) rodecaster pro (or streamer x) or 2) rig stream pro?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to say that the RCP/Streamer X will be higher quality due to better preamps and processing. BUT...I don't know how noticeable it'll actually be on a KZitem stream. Chances are virtually no one would be able to tell the difference, so it really comes down to what you'd prefer to use and what fits best for your budget/workflow.
@avantgardenovelist
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck great, thanks 😊
@joeykahng6219
Жыл бұрын
Always another great and honest video. I think a vast majority of us, have felt the frustrations with Audio and Video, but you were spot on with keeping it separated. Clean Audio is always something difficult to manage, especially not taking into account electromagnet and RF interferences that we can not see, smell, or taste in the air, but how each device can produce it's own EM field, causing all sorts of interference. I deal with this stuff everyday for work; I think it's what has made me loose my hair over it for the past 20 years. LOL Best solution; like you said. "KEEP IT SEPARATED!" 🙂 Yeah it's more work in POST, but man ya get clean audio, clean video and will be happier with the results in the end.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey! I know there are a few other semi-complex workarounds, but I always think of the person who just plunked down the cash for a RCP and I always hate telling them they need to spend more money on something else/add something else to the chain to get things working. Plus the internal audio sounds so much better! You can definitely hear it become much thinner sounding when it's run through a camera or ATEM.
@joeykahng6219
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck Agreed. I wanted to find an easier way to connect my audio direct for my motovlog, but Im finding the best audio quality is the internal recording from the Transmitter. It's fun running trial and errors. lol
@offroad_explorer
Жыл бұрын
Or buy a Sony FX3 and let the camera handle both.
@tacticalg6686
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck thank you for all the content you make. I just found your channel and subscribed. Do you mind helping me with a question? I have 3 Lumix G85 and an Atem mini. Do you think I can record in BOTH devices at the same time? SD card in the camera and SSD card in the ATEM mini pro? Thanks!
@SxC97
Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with the extension cables. I found the best option is to use a super short 3.5mm cable into a 3.5mm -> usb adapter (I used an Audio Technica one on Amazon), then use a usb extension cable to get the signal where you want it. It's more expensive (the 3.5mm to usb adapter was like $25), but it got rid of the noise. I'm assuming this is because the adapter switches the signal to digital which makes it less likely for the signal to attenuate by the time it gets through the long usb extension cable.
@williamhouston559
10 ай бұрын
I would think that it's not signal attenuation differencess but the fact that the USB signal and cable is less susceptible to RFI and EMI.
@dukeadams
Жыл бұрын
That 3.5 jack from the OG RCP is the thing I miss most in the II. Ran all of my audio from that to a Canon XA11 for any stream I was doing.
@elitheelectronicsguy
Жыл бұрын
Tom I just love your videos! You need an audio Isolation transformer. Check out my atem video on my channel and I use a podtrak p4 "line out" feed into my ATEM Extreme. 6 mins in I talk about feeding my xlr into the atem
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Eli!
@av_prod
Жыл бұрын
I have found the solution to get the RCP2 sound to my FX3 with perfect output FOR ONLY 40$ on B&H. I used Movo Photo MV-RC100 3.5mm TRS Line-to-Microphone Attenuation Cable for DSLR/Mirrorless Cameras (12") and the Rode extension cable RODE VC1 3.5mm TRS Microphone Extension Cable for Cameras (10') with a simple ¼ to ⅛ TRS adapter plugged into a headphone output of the RCP2. Sound is exactly the same without any added noise.
@TransplantHelper
Жыл бұрын
After getting ecamm I’d love to sell my Atem Mini Pro. It’s just a huge bottle neck for me. Amazon is no longer allowing me to sell Atem without pre approval from Blackmagic. Any other ideas for sell a/v equipment?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
GearFocus is great. It sometimes takes a bit longer to sell, but I've found the people to be more trustworthy. MPB.com is also a good one, but I don't know if they do ATEMs.
@karlenballen3014
5 күн бұрын
As always, amazing video and Live Panel this afternoon, Tom! Thanks for the valuable insights. I'm trying to decide between the ATEM Extreme ISO and the Rodecaster Video for my setup. I use a Universal Audio Apollo Twin Duo audio interface and want to start video podcasting and live streaming. My needs include 4-6 cameras and 2-4 mic inputs. I really appreciate the I/O flexibility of these devices, and ideally, I’d like to record to an SSD while live streaming or live editing a video podcast. The multiple outputs on the Rodecaster Video seem to offer more versatility compared to the ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Based on your experience, would it be feasible to use the two mic inputs from my Apollo in combination with the two XLR inputs on the Rodecaster Video? Or would it make more sense to use the two XLR inputs on the Rodecaster and invest in two additional USB Rode Podcaster mics for a 4-person recording setup?
@rickw43
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, have you looked at Mogami gold series cables? They make all kinds of cables, I purchased "Analog Reference Microphone Cable" for use with the Rode Podmic and RCP2. When I replaced the $20 XLR cable with the Mogami, I noticed an improved dynamic range along with a clean signal from the mic to the Rodecaster. Any decent microphone such as the Rode Procaster or Podmic will shine with these cables. Defiantly worth the price.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I've heard of those! Haven't used them though. For XLR, I've REALLY been liking Rode's new cables, but still don't have a lot of options for the more specialized non-XLR needs.
@rickw43
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck Amazon sells Mogami, they don’t just make XLR cables, they also make instrument cables both 1/4 inch and 1/8 inch cables. They do have a TS balanced Y cable 1/4 mono L/R to 3.5mm that might work for you.
@FitLabb
Жыл бұрын
This is something I’ve needed for some time and really appreciate you making this video. Incredibly helpful!
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hellounclesim
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, I wonder if running a DI box would allow you to run a longer cable without noise. You'll need all sorts of cables to go from 1/4" to xlr to 1/8". I got the idea from here (but ya, if you want quality audio, it's not even worth it)... kzitem.info/news/bejne/uH2a2YV3nYqfZ5g
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea!
@DJ.StevoD.Entertainment
10 ай бұрын
Tom I love your podcast. I am wanting to upgrade from mixcast to rodecaster. I have a tascam mixcast that I want to send audio from aux out to my GoPro 10 camera as mic in so I can livestream. I can’t seem to get my pads ( sounds) to go through. Any ideas? Or could I do this with the rodecaster pro 2?
@tombuck
10 ай бұрын
What I would recommend doing is using software like Ecamm or OBS to combine the signal from your GoPro with the signal from your mixer (you might need a small delay to sync everything up). This should work with either the Tascam or the RCP 👍
@DJ.StevoD.Entertainment
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom. You are amazing. Is there a guide to using ECAMM or OBS you would recommend? I have used I-movie on a few videos. @@tombuck
@Ramesh_Muthusamy
Жыл бұрын
I have learnt so much. Disappointed that I can get great audio from rcp to cam. but I get it now. ty Tom
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I really wish there was a simple/reliable way to do it well!
@PabloMaldonadoAudiovisuales
Ай бұрын
Thanks for this great video. I used a wireless mic (Synco) to send audio signal from a headphone output to the Atem M. E. I know it’s not the “correct” way to send audio but it was the only way to avoid that noise.
@nicktayloriv310
Жыл бұрын
Okay... I got a headache Tom... and it's your fault (hey I gotta blame somebody! 🤕😎), I know I wouldn't be able to keep up with all the buttons on the ATEM!
@LuisCardenasrompcbsa
Жыл бұрын
I tried using the Elgato splitter meant to record game chat by running it into the ATEM Mini. It introduced a ton of noise. My eventual solution was two usb mics, one into the ps5 and one into the Mac mini for my voice. I hooked up headphones to my monitors aux out, so I can hear in game audio while I still record audio from the HDMI feed. I used a cheap HDMI splitter out of the ps5, one cable goes straight into the monitor and the other goes into the ATEM.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
This is a pretty sweet solution. It's so cool how many different ways there are to solve these problems.
@grooveecard
Жыл бұрын
Tom Buck takes a highly complex situation with a bazillion variables and makes it digestible to understand and navigate. As always, nice freakin' work, man.
@bobcat6653
Жыл бұрын
The 3.5mm plug and jack combination is not great for low noise at very low levels and should be avoided. For cables I stick with the brand name called Hosa, they are inexpensive and pretty good quality, by far not the best but I have no complaints.
@Thebearcave1776
Жыл бұрын
Is "line" selected (vs Microphone) in the ATEM audio setup? I haven't seen you mention that in this or one of your previous vids. Thanks, dig'n the vids.
@Jicosai
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, Great video as always, but I just saw 1 video that solved this problem and there's a settings on the ATEM mini software that can change the mic input to Line, normal or mic+power. if you changed that to line it will solved your hissing problem, hope it helps. here's the link if you want to see how kzitem.info/news/bejne/wqKl0p5oa3Z5aII
@GordonGidluck
Жыл бұрын
For long cable runs I run the balanced outputs of the Rodecaster Pro using a TRS to XLR cable. Then run mic cable as long as is required. Then at the camera I use a transformer solution (as recommended by Rane in their Rane Notes). The nice thing about this solution is that it is passive (ie. requires no active electronics). No power is required like you would need with the Cleanbox Pro.
@GordonGidluck
Жыл бұрын
I am using the Rane Balance Buddy (which are out of production), but any high-quality nickel transformer is recommended. This is the same type used in the better quality Direct Boxes.
@puertoricoapie
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, I just found you in the KZitem Universe, thanks to your videos I just bought the Rode Caster Pro 2, and I wanted to know if it's normal for it to make an internal noise when you turn it on? thanks again 🙏
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Hi! The RCP2 has a haptic engine inside (so if you want you can have it vibrate a little bit when you press a setting on the screen), and this makes a little "buzz" type sound when you first turn it on. If that's what you're hearing, it's totally normal and just means everything is working as it should 👍
@puertoricoapie
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck Thanks 🙏
@MarineX
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of my MixPre 3-II. Easily sending the signal to my camera. But I prefer internal recording.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
The MixPre is such an awesome thing. I'm not surprised it makes this process simple.
@Irshaad88
Жыл бұрын
Hey. Great video, thanks. I agree wholeheartedly with keeping things separated, but if you're in a fix, the best results I have had were in using a Rode wireless Go or Go2 receiver into the Atem and connecting the transmitter to the RCP's line outs, using the same kind of cable you used in your demonstration, or even out of one of the headphone jacks (though that's not what one should do). I've had no issues with interference. It's another item you may not want to purchase, but in case some of you already have it, Give it a Go ;-)
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
This is a really smart solution to the extension cable issue- I'll have to give it a try!
@PhotowalksTV
Жыл бұрын
I stumbled onto one of your videos the other night and loved it. How many KZitemrs use puns and put thought into their writing skills? Congrats.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's such a nice compliment to hear!
@TheWatchFrogs
10 ай бұрын
if you want to get rid of that nosie, you need a ground loop isolator, they're like 10 bucks and super useful. :)
@MartinCraneRockbeast
Жыл бұрын
Ah the old S/N ratio problem. Plaguing mixer engineers forever.
@MrCameraJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I bought that same VESA arm but I couldn't fit it with my current setup. My laptop stand, like you said is my active solution. maybe I should rethink my setup? 🧐🙃
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
If anything, I wish the arm were a bit longer. But I think your setup has a lot more gear in a much more compact space than mine. Maybe there's a way to mount an arm to a wall?
@KevinFieldLive
5 ай бұрын
For RCP to Atem. The lead issue is the difference between balanced audio and line output. The output of the RCP from the monitor is line output, not balanced, just left and right. So in the Atem Mini software. Go to gear setting and change the mic input chanel you're using from mic to line, no more buzz. On analogue mixers you would have had a button on the chanel that changed it from mic to line input or vice versa. And it just wouldn't have worked because you were adjusting a pin setting on the mixer, digital kit you're adjusting what a chip does, hence you get sound with a hum or buzz. As for direct to camera, the Sony (and all DSLR) internal pre-amps are not designed for professional audio, even the $5k video camera's are rubbish for audio... In my shoots I only use them for reference and sync later. However, in this case you're right to set the camera level to around 1 and control the level via the RCP, although again we're dealing with unbalanced line out for monitoring. Ground Loop isolation lead might help. It's usually a noise around the 11khz. Unfortunately most DSLRs and Sony in this case have a 3.5 jack input that probably goes back to the days of the Walkman mini disc... It's not professional audio output or input. Hence why I usually record audio separately and sync in post. I think you struck lucky with the lead you chose, but I wouldn't advise it as a high quality route. Keep up the great work.
@thanasisathanasi4965
Жыл бұрын
Solution: NEVER BUY EXPENSIVE CABLES. Buy cheap microphone cable and solder the jacks yourself. You will get no noise. Microphone cables are thick and well noise shielded. If you use them on line level signals you will get the best noise isolation as it gets. NEVER BUY EXPENSIVE CABLES.
@jaipo
Жыл бұрын
I had the same issues but needed to connect because I was live streaming, a cheap ground loop isolater cured the problem
@benjhaisch
Жыл бұрын
Random but I love watching your room slowly get upgraded over the years to be more and more specifically branded to your stuff.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Haha thank Benj! It was fun to try a bit of a different angle here too.
@Williammceuen
12 күн бұрын
I’m setting up multi mic and camera podcast with atem iso and rodecaster pro 2. I plan to use adobe premiere pro to edit with auto pod, but how do I connect so they record direct to premiere pro? Or do I have to record iso in premiere pro and rodecaster to adobe audition? Thanks for help
@He.is_basir
4 ай бұрын
Can you make a video easiest way 1 camera and 1 condenser microphone from rode . Please
@beardedspar7an
9 ай бұрын
Can you hook up a Shure PSM300 P3TR112TW Wireless in-Ear Personal Monitoring System right to the rodecaster pro 2? Just curious if I would need anything else to make it work
@BlazshoNikolov
Жыл бұрын
Different makers , different quality expectations, still .. why don't you all just add DI box to the equation and move on ?! Behringer Ultra DI costs 20 usd, works on batteries, phantom power AND external... SO i don't get it. Every time you got some USB, statics, monitors, cameras, lights and power cords and computers around it's normal to have statics, brum, noice etc... And one more thing - How good is your ground level and how many phases you have in that room? Are you using everything in a single power circle? Are you sure you got good grounding, isolation? On some curtain situations plus and minus are actually important... Tons of things, no matter the equipment. DI BOX! ... Few bucks... Done!
@rayanzaito
Жыл бұрын
Hi ..can we connect smartphone and use it for live TikTok or Facebook??
@kaislate
Жыл бұрын
I've seen comments here about ground loop isolators. This is definitely the way to go, however if starting programs on your computer cause noise this is almost entirely due to USB ground loops in which case you'll need a USB ground loop isolator. The different cables thing is interesting though. I bet if you you held the connectors next to each other you'd see that the plastic spacers in between the ring segments on the 3.5mm plug are slightly different widths on the the red vs the black cable. Unfortunately I have found that manufacturers don't really standardize this with regard to tolerances and some devices have tighter tolerance requirements for the TRS segments than others. The length issue is also definitely of concern as the longer the cable the more of an antenna it becomes. It would be interesting to see a phase difference test with the Rodecaster. Though narrowing down what is causing it would be a pain. Anything from lights, monitors, or even the device's own power cable can introduce this. Having said all of this... the cables seem to be around $10 cables. Order a Y cable from infinite cables or spec your own from performance audio and pick your cable, connectors, etc. Then, I would see if that helps. I'm not saying you need to go buy a $200 cable from audiosuperdupergalaxyprimequestcompany, but I've had great headache free $30 to $40 cables from Infinite cables, performance audio, and seismic audio.
@mr.bond2023
Жыл бұрын
does anyone know if you can use the airpod max with the rodecaster?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
You should be able to connect them (I don't have the Maxes, but I can connect to other Bluetooth devices just fine). The tricky part with Bluetooth is always latency. Typically a corded headset is the way to go so that you never have to worry about it.
@mr.bond2023
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck thanks bro
@LifeJourney0414
5 ай бұрын
Hi Tom! I just watched some of your videos and I am glad that I found you, I have a question I think you can help me with, I use Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro ISO with Rode wireless Go ll for my podcast studio but this sound quality is not very good so If I buy Rodecaster Pro would that help me get better sound and also I have 3 Rode NT-USB MINI mic can I connect to Rodecaster Pro if I have two guests? I need three Mic connections into the system, what do you think? Also, I directly record my podcast on my Samsung SSD from ATEM Blackmagic. Hope you don't mind. thanks
@Shaneclarke11
Жыл бұрын
Tom! ive really loved all your videos ever since i wanted to create my podcast! youve really helped me buying certain equipment making my podcast great!! a year later and 10,000 downloads later. still going strong and loving it!! thank you. hopefully buzzsprout sent you that amazon card for me signing up with them!! happy new year!!
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
That's amazing! Congratulations on your podcast! Not that it's a competition, but I think 10K downloads puts you in the top 1 or 2% of all podcasts. Pretty cool!
@EazyG_
5 ай бұрын
For the RCP you recommend a red cable and for RCP2 you recommend this black cable…. Can I mix and match or should I stay with your reccs ?
@45KevinR
Жыл бұрын
Hah, I'm new to all this and my ears heard A74. I wonder if that's affordable I thought... 2500+ nope. The irony here is that with $1000s of kit its almost impossible to connect them reliably and silently. I mean it's not like you were stuck with a budget of $10 for a cable! I'm guessing the noise is related to the shielding in the cable, if it's earthed properly, and not introducing an earth loop. When I read up on sheilded cat5/cat6 it seemed like it was worse than normal ethernet cable if you didn't get earth continuity right, 100% but without connecting it at both ends.
@JamesDailyTV
4 ай бұрын
I have a similar setup, but I use a Rode 3.5mm cable and run it from the front headphone port of the Rodecaster to the Mic 1 input of the Atem. In ATEM settings, adjust the sound setting from Microphone to Line. No interference problems and it sounds great. Set the headphone level at about 1/2 and then adjust the gain on the ATEM to compensate. None of my cameras capture sound if I'm using my Rode. Everything compiles in the ATEM and gets output to a single channel via USB if I'm going to my laptop or HDD.
@chrissingletary2876
10 ай бұрын
The problem is that the 1/4" connections on the rodecaster Pro are TRS cables and not standard 1/4" cables. That means that you have to have a dual TRS 1/4" plug to a single 3.5mm stereo cable. I have yet to find a single cable that does that.
@JamieHarveyJr
Жыл бұрын
I run into the camera as a “backup” but mostly for VERY fast post-production audio syncing in my DAW. It’s my “digital clap, if you will.
@djmaurozenidjmauz9834
9 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that I did the test with two different acoustic devices. The first time both devices connected perfectly, and the second Bluetooth symbol appeared next to the outgoing monitor symbol. I turned the rhodecaster pro II off and on again, both devices were no longer displayed among the devices and I was no longer able to connect them. I repeat, the first time they worked perfectly. What could I do to solve the problem? Thank you
@richardsalsomano
4 ай бұрын
Good informative video. Have you tried switching the ATEM's audio input from mic in to line in?
@kustomtshirtkings
9 ай бұрын
Hi Tom great video. Quick question? So how do I record multiple camera angles using the atem mini pro iso and have audio also synced if you don’t recommend connecting the rodecaster pro 2 to the atem mini. I’ll be using two cameras with this setup. Thanks.
@cameraramblings4107
10 ай бұрын
Hi, have you thought about trying a DI box between them? That might work to isolate and also help match gain levels. Something with a pad will help. Anyways just a thought.
@DavidJFornelli
6 ай бұрын
So the Rodecaster Duo solves the problem since there’s a 3.5mm output on the front of the device?
@christopherrobleto-harvey1547
Жыл бұрын
Get yourself a power conditioner. Thank me later... ;)
@networkingjoe3635
9 ай бұрын
I had this issue with my Rodecaster pro 2, I found it was a USB loop. I disconnected a KVM that had usb connections to both machines my Rodecaster was connected to, once I removed one from the chain all noise from the serial Line-in into the rodecaster stopped making noise.
@JoseRodriguez-lw1wn
Жыл бұрын
Love the great video... My system seems to be pulling from my camera when using stem mini pro iso although I have connected my RodeCaster ProII .. Am I missing something
@GuilDormeus
Жыл бұрын
Omg I just thought this was just me😢. It’s so frustrating. I’ll find a cable that works but eventually they stop working. I will definitely buy it.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
There are some great technical solutions in the comments here, which might be super helpful. I was hoping to find a simple fix for the "everyday person" but I don't think that exists.
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