I was getting a lot of the same questions about my setup so, I shot a FAQ video. If you guys want more information check out the video in this link and see if it answers your questions. Thanks for watching guys. kzitem.info/news/bejne/kWaDnqKDpJqJo3o Conversion kits: The kit that I used: amzn.to/38cfI3Z centuryfuelproducts.com www.uscarburetion.com/ www.propanecarbs.com/ Fittings and hoses: 12ft 1/2npt Hose & Quick connect: amzn.to/2YFzP7s 24ft 1/2npt Hose & Quick connect: amzn.to/3g6EmFN Quick connect fittings: amzn.to/2BdOTQS Gas shut off: amzn.to/2plPiaA Bracket kit: amzn.to/2pok1Dj Help support the channel by using my Amazon links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases and your cost is exactly the same. Natural gas pipe size charts: www.uscarburetion.com/natural-gas-chart.htm soa.generac.com/manuals/8838386/0J9944 (See section 5.4.1 for piping charts)
@joshanderson1019
6 жыл бұрын
Great Video I bought one of my kits for my honda gcv 160
@justinspirelife773
5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@kujtimelezi5584
5 жыл бұрын
Hi have a Honda gx620/v twin propane Generator what do I need to convert it to natural gas propane is really expensive
@joshanderson1019
5 жыл бұрын
@@kujtimelezi5584 i have a link for you: www.motorsnorkel.com/tri-fuel-natural-gas-propane-and-gasoline-conversion-kit-7057.html
@gamingforlive2150
4 жыл бұрын
i think it depends on the quality of the gas that you`re using cause more cleaner gas more gas will be deliverd and less other things so you`re gen has more potential power available
@therealRustyShackleford
2 жыл бұрын
A couple things I would like to add is: 1. You might have to upgrade your natural gas meter to accommodate the added flow of the generator in addition to any natural gas appliances you already have. 2. People need to realize that most small engines are supposed to have the engine oil changed every 50-75 hours of run time. Running continuously that is only 2-3 days so the oil needs to be changed at no more than 3 days of running. And in that 2-3 days, the oil needs to be checked frequently as most small engines running under a heavy load can burn through engine oil rather quickly. Most small engines only take 24-48 ounces and that can be depleted pretty quick. Awesome video! 5 stars. Would recommend!
@BreathingFire
2 жыл бұрын
and with natural gas engine oil remains clean much longer
@williamfowler616
Ай бұрын
you are funny, gas comes in at around 100psi then goes through regulator where it is dropped down to 3-4 inches of water column, he may need a bigger regulator but i doubt it.
@dennyaudio
5 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60's, we had an oil well on our farm which produced natural gas as well as crude oil. The oil well pumper showed me how to run any small engine off of natural gas by making an adapter using a tuna fish can and a small gas valve. Worked great and was reliable. This was before OSHA - and people had common sense.
@FlyEaglesFly19111
5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@czarandmaeve
5 жыл бұрын
Thats sweet, did you ever run anything off of it?
@dennyaudio
5 жыл бұрын
@@czarandmaeve Yes - We ran several things off of small engines running natural gas. We stepped down the pressure from the well head - it ran at about 800 psi. Regulate it down to about 8 oz. psi and use the brass gas valve as a throttle. Worked great.
@dennyaudio
5 жыл бұрын
@Greg W Yep - I learned a lot of common sense growing up on our farm. After that oil well guy showed me how to run small engines from natural gas, it wasn't long before I made a flame thrower powered by the 800 pound gas pressure directly off the oil well. I fired it up slowly because I knew that 800 lbs of pressure would make a mighty powerful flame thrower. It shot flames out well over 50 feet, but I was careful. Dangerous can be fun sometimes. Responsibility is the "key". (Not bad for a 12 year old kid.)
@PedroGomez-bd9ro
5 жыл бұрын
I hope you still have that land
@shikitheundead9394
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I know this is an old video but coming from a person in the small engine and standby generator profession, there a few extra points that I feel are needed here: 1: The generator, for optimal performance and life, shouldn't drop under 58hz or ~3500rpm (or +/- 3% of 60hz/3600rpm). It could damage your generator and/or your appliances if it operators below those values. Best practice is to adjust fuel/rpm to achieve the correct rpm or hz to 3720rpm or 63hz with no load. 2: He doesn't explain it well, but you need some sort of transfer switch or you could fry your generator or start a fire in your house/powerlines. His is crude, but effective. (Automatic transfer switches can be purchased which will automatically switch between main power and generator power and/or could turn your generator on and off.) 3: You can freely switch between gasoline/LP/NG so long as you turn your respective gas valves on/off when switch between gasses. 4: 7000w is only enough to run an electric heater, refrigerator, and/or a few lights for emergencies purposes and/or for supplemental energy. You need at least a 20kw (MINIMUM) generator to power some/all of your house. Find out what your peak yearly usage is and purchase a generator that is at the LEAST 10% over your peak. 5: The minimum "safe" distance, from generator to house, that is legally allowed is 4ft and/or 6ft from a window. (may vary state to state) 6: Never run a generator or store LP gas inside of your house. 7: Extension cords need to be 10ga or lower for higher power output. The shorter and thicker the cord is, the better. (so long as it keeps the generator a safe distance from the house.) 8: All house to generator outlet wiring should be install by a trained professional. 9: With LP gas, for a 3000w generator or larger, you typically need a 120lb (MINIMUM) propane tank for sufficient pressure and/or run time. 10: Inverter generators are also a good option for emergency or supplemental power as they are very quiet and will regulate themselves to stay a constant 60hz. The downsides are they typically do not come over 7000w. (Also when converting over to LP/NG you need to adjust the fuel/rpm so the generator is producing the correct voltage.)
@dannysapp5559
3 жыл бұрын
well said for me your preaching to the choir
@dermick
Жыл бұрын
Excellent points. These details are important if you want to keep yourself and your family safe.
@TOONMAN200
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU: For a long time my Honda EX4500 sputtered and surged, after converting to propane. After watching you adjusting flow valve on the top or the regulator, I thought I should give it a try. I got it perfect, after playing with the adjustment ,generator runs like it should, so simple i'm sure other people, can use this advice.
@zwz.zdenek
6 жыл бұрын
Very nicely made, informative and well-researched. No clickbait. I don't see such videos often.
@aaronknowlton3996
2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Not well made! You do know that in home natural gas has 2psi and has already been heated up and fully regulated at the meter! Lol just run a hose straight to the carb air cleaner with a purge cylnoid valve for safety! Lol! Boy this guy wasted his time buying that kit!
@timmer9lives
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for “the other half “ video and stumbled on this. Good information but I want to add that I’ve noticed that these demand regulators work best when the hose is as short as possible. I think by just rotating the brass outlet at the regulator… having it pointing at the carb, you can shorten your hose considerably. The regulator opens when it senses the Venturi neg pressure at the carb intake. So keeping the hose short makes it more sensitive to the vacuum at the carb. FWIW, I’ve installed 4 of these on my and my friends generators. I’ve noticed that it started easier with shorter hoses. Great video and good information.
@roberthowland4503
6 жыл бұрын
Mounting the regulator is brilliant.
@boricuaarecibo9259
3 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have saw the mounts for the regulator before I drilled holes in the frame
@SenorDennis
4 жыл бұрын
I installed a tri-fuel kit on my grandfathers generator a few months ago and just got to try it for the first time yesterday from hurricane Laura power outages. As soon as it started I knew it was running lean and I had no idea how to adjust the air/fuel ratio. Glad I saw this video now I know it’s the bolt! I was trying to turn the brass screw on the regulator and it would not turn lol
@SilentBob1932
6 жыл бұрын
Good Video, I did my Conversion 5 years ago using the US Carb Motor Snorkel. FYI Reliance Controls Makes a Utility Power Back Alarm that I also installed to alert you When the power is back on.
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
robert colonna Thanks. I'll look into it.
@marksalot655
5 жыл бұрын
Well done. This is more of a nuts and bolts, mechanical video that shows the real install and mods that may be needed. 👍👍👍
@chevytruckman34
6 жыл бұрын
Some people out there.... let me rephrase.... *most* people out there that think that they're some kind of engineer and don't really have any idea of the concept would tell you that the mixture is too lean and you'll damage your motor, more specifically the rings and/or valves, because it burns too hot. Someone would have to have a very good explanation for me to believe that [vaporized, i.e. ionized] gasoline injected into the combustion chamber, valves immediately close and immediately ignited would have some kind of lubrication or cooling effect on the valves or rings. It's super hot inside there, no matter how you look at it. We should ask the weatherman to hop in there and tell us the "real feel" temp, just to clarify. Me personally, I'm a firm believer in it. Thanks for the video.
@jordihester6286
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciated this video because you actually showed how much of the gen is actually being used up by the electric dryer which is the most energy sucking appliance you could have.
@patrickd9551
2 ай бұрын
Well, yeah, if your dryer pulls 5500+ (2700 on each leg, according to the meter) watt on the low setting, I can imagine it's a power hungry sucking appliance. Perhaps Americans should invest in slightly more efficient devices..... I just checked my heat pump dryer and it's rated for 1000W. And that's the maximum power it pulls. A 3 hour run uses about 1,5 kWh in total, averaging 500watts of power during it's run and that's a full dry run.
@daleeasternbrat816
4 жыл бұрын
Ihave been working on industrial, and marine generators for over 40 years. Very good video. You got right and safe.
@epiphonium
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a propane generator a few years ago figuring I always have a spare tank on my grill. Works great.
@FBPrepping
4 жыл бұрын
That is a heck of a clean assembly. Only thing I would dare to suggest is, to make a "dry" assembly (something that everyone with a little bit of experience would do) BEFORE the permanent assembly using sealant and stuff. Great video!
@RestoreItAll
6 жыл бұрын
Great project, lots of info. In our area north of Pittsburgh. When I call Penn Power,with a power outage call, they make a robo call back asking if our power came on. Keep up the good work.
@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346
5 жыл бұрын
Great Ideas, BUTT A Few Notes! This Is My Profession/Business... 1) I'd Still Put a Ball-Petcock Gas Valve Prior To The Gas Quick Connects! 2) Make Sure That You Can Use Both Nat & LP Gas In Case Of Real Emergencies Since Most Power & Gas Utilities Will Shut Down The Whole Area Grid If It's Really Bad! Then You Won't Be Getting Any Nat Gas Either & Might Could Go To Bottled LP Gas Only...😋 3) Put A 110v LED Light Into The Side Of Power Box Connected To The Main Incoming Electric Line So You Know Quickly When Thr Grid Power Is On Or Off For Sure... They Are $1 on eBay...
@charadremur333
4 жыл бұрын
On #1 he did
@3dtexan890
3 жыл бұрын
If that is the case then a Generac Home Backup Generator would do no good. I did not know that the natural gas is shut down also. Kinda puts a damper on a backup system if I understand you correctly.
@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346
3 жыл бұрын
@@3dtexan890 In Some Area NG Also Shuts Down In Large Black Outs, Like In NY + NJ Years Ago... PS All "Gas" Generators Will Run With Either Natural Gas or LP Gas, It's Just A Matter Of Turning A Screw Fitting or Flipping Over A Orific-Jet On Olders Units? Refer To Your Owners Manuals For Exact Instructions?
@fromagefrizzbizz9377
3 жыл бұрын
@@3dtexan890 NG may well be shut off if there’s widespread physical damage - say from an earthquake or hurricane. You don’t want random broken homes spewing NG from broken or sheared off regulators. Leaking NG played a significant role in the damage in the Bay Area after the Loma Prieta quake some years back. For use in emergencies you will really want at least several days of propane if NG goes down. Most of the time they’ll have NG back up in a few days after they’ve capped off the broken ones. Most...
@Pk3_Garage
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I saw your video first when looking at converting a gasoline only generator to Tri-fuel. We have the Predator 9000/7250 watts gasoline generator that I installed a Tri-fuel kit. I tried using an adaptor, but it caused problems running on gasoline. (It ran fine on NG). So, I bought the Motor Snorkel from US Carburetion which works great on gasoline and NG. (I don't have the connection for LP yet) You mentioned that you didn't believe the Motor Snorkel would work using gasoline. I can tell you it works great. No issues at all. Also, I noticed when running on NG, that it didn't surge much, like on gasoline. Personally, I wouldn't buy a duel fuel generator, if they have a conversion kit for a gasoline only generator. Using the regulator with the kit, always you to fine tune the fuel/air mixture, minimizing power lose.
@barrylitchfield250
6 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining the conversion. Easy to understand and good video to show how you did the modifications. 👍👍
@The_DC_Kid
4 жыл бұрын
I live in earthquake AND brush-fire country. I've got a brand new predator 7kw and I AM going to do this. Was planning on just having about 20 gals of gas cans, but that makes me a little nervous and I'd need to be using it in my car and then refilling them to keep the stock rotated, and even though that's a good amount, it's not enough for more than 2 or 3 days. But Natural Gas makes FAR MORE sense. Going to wire the gen into my service panel as well. Man, I didn't realize that getting the gen was only about 1/3 of the total cost, but I'm thinkin' it's worth it.
@timothyblazer1749
6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic :-) Also, Propane has more specific energy than methane, so for an equivalent amount, it will have more "bang for the buck". In other words, if you need to, you can run it off of propane for longer with less, if you have a natural gas interruption.
@hankhill4254
4 жыл бұрын
Methane is a b*****d gas. Stick with propane.
@MikeMike-is2hl
2 жыл бұрын
@@hankhill4254 Bobby, that Boy ain't right
@1wetpaint
3 жыл бұрын
Sitting here in Louisiana after Ida. Gas line are long and tempers are short. Cant wait to get this setup for next go round. Thanks
@RepairGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I get a lot of people in your situation commenting on this video. Best advice I can give you is source your parts in the spring. Winter storms are gone and it's too early for hurricanes. Parts are plentiful. If you try to make this conversion a week before a hurricane makes landfall you'll struggle to find parts.
@brucewilliams6292
6 жыл бұрын
Good job on the video. I bought the regulator by itself and will drill a hole in the carburetor inlet and need to get it installed. Thanks for sharing.
@adriancressy8363
2 жыл бұрын
I like your approach using quick disconnects on both ends of the hose; AND the fuel / mixture adjustment to steady the engine
@educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890
6 жыл бұрын
You need to fit a NO VOLT RELAY. A contactor will drop of the mains and start the generator if you have the facility, which you don't. When power is restored the relay disconnects the generator and reconnect the mains power. You don't want mess up or there will be a large BANG.
@timmyteabag69
6 жыл бұрын
Antony Bradbury that’s what I have on my hog farms, I have 1 22.5 KW white that runs on propane and then I have 2 55kw ones that have Detroit diesels and a 750L tank under the floor
@BarryOBomber
5 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with you? People need to hire QUALIFIED persons to do these home interfaces. Stop promoting modifications that can injure you OR FIRST RESPONDERS.
@vudu8ball
3 жыл бұрын
I have a propane fueled generator. Love it!!! starts on first pull every time. No worries about contaminated or old gas. No worries about mistaken ignition. If you can buy a propane fueled generator over a gas fueled generator.
@azopene
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you for all the info. I don't mind the reduction in power possibility because it is so convenient.
@cs_fl5048
4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this a few years ago. I have a 13K portable gasoline generator. I have natural gas, but didn't want one of those 30K because I was planning to move in 5 years. I'm in hurricane country. I'm about to buy a new house but I WILL put in a gas whole house generator at that time. The convenience is worth the expense. It isn't fun to go out and refill while the wind and rain are still raging.
@notajp
6 жыл бұрын
As a small engine repair shop owner and 40 year mechanic, I would never use silicon carne in place of intake gaskets. That schmoo can get places you really don’t want it. Always use gaskets, either factory or homemade.
@scottfirman
6 жыл бұрын
I agree. That and he used WAY TOO MUCH. That's a non hardening sealer we used on snowmobile engines to put the lower end halves back together. That stuff isn't cheap eat her. Over kill all the way around really.u
@joshuapotter7372
6 жыл бұрын
"SiliconCarne" is that an AvE reference?
@serge.crispino418
6 жыл бұрын
@@joshuapotter7372 Bahahaha - " That stuff isn't cheap eat her " , is she worth eating is the question I want answered.
@jackc1322
5 жыл бұрын
Serge. Crispino LOL
@darrelfuhrman8217
4 жыл бұрын
On your low pressure regulator, there is a vent hole that needs a tube on it to protect it from water & dirt. If you are looking at the regulator, the hole is about 1 to 2 o’clock on the motor side of the regulator. Hello from north east Montana.
@goosedeathable
6 жыл бұрын
Good video. On point and showed me what I was hoping to see.
@KeithJamesDesigns
3 жыл бұрын
Nice thorough video. Converted mine over today. Took a little longer since I changed out the carb too. Nice to have fuel options.
@Bobbybeb
6 жыл бұрын
It will also run cleaner so less gunk buildup inside the combustion chamber.
@spockmcoyissmart961
4 жыл бұрын
I am commenting before I watch this entire vid. My comment will be to remember to buy OIL for your maint of your genset. Spare spark plugs and any filters too. IF you get into a storm damaged area where you will be running 24/7, you will need to be changing your oil fairly frequently.
@nobullshit9721
4 жыл бұрын
Natural gas runs pretty clean
@spockmcoyissmart961
4 жыл бұрын
No Bullshit absolutely. It does take longer to dirty the oil, but the oil still breaks down faster in small engines where your oil sensor will shut down the engine, if so equipped.
@SkankHunt223
5 жыл бұрын
Hank Hill would approve
@hankhill4254
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
4 жыл бұрын
@@hankhill4254 Would you really? It supports CH4 too ;)
@hankhill4254
4 жыл бұрын
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 I ignored that part. Only C3H8
@dossreviews
4 жыл бұрын
I tell you hwhat
@cameron-pg8gf
4 жыл бұрын
@@hankhill4254 But its Natural gas
@frrapp2366
4 жыл бұрын
just a couple of facts : propane and natural gas are both dry so if you dont have hardened valves in your engine you can burn them up however most modern engines do have hardened valves . on power propane generally does produce a little less power / gallon of fuel but is also cheaper . my dad had 2 combines with the same engine one was on propane the other on gas the propane put out about 10 hp less.
@wpg33
5 жыл бұрын
Any storm that produced damage in the neighborhood (tornadoes, hurricanes etc) the first thing that is shut off by emergency crews is the natural gas main. Natural gas will remain off long after a storm has passed. Each collapsed or damaged structure will have hundreds of leaks. Propane different story, but you are right back @ needing it delivered or filling up 20lb tanks.
@saulgoodman4769
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying anything other than when Hurricane Irma hit I didn't have power for 7 days. My mother in law has a standby generator that runs on natural gas and that thing never turned off for the entire 7 days.
@RepairGeek
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/kWaDnqKDpJqJo3o
@perrysmith6872
5 жыл бұрын
@ wpg33 I live on a farm that has its own gas well .
@jacobcollins2861
4 жыл бұрын
Same after hurricane Ike in Houston. Could cook with gas while electric gone for 2 weeks. Wish I had this
@muhammadsteinberg
3 жыл бұрын
You're a very capable and resourceful young man. Figure out a way to get a suitable bulb or meter across your input (commercial side) to your main breaker.
@dlesman12
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like that plastic adapter is 3D printed
@IBWatchinUrVids
4 жыл бұрын
It definitely is. Is that a bad thing? I'm not entirely sure, will it leak? Melt? Depends on how flat it is, and what material it's made from.
@johnpike9612
4 жыл бұрын
look closer and youll see its really a cheaply made anodized aluminum "adapter"......ive had many (more than id like to admit to) gun and car parts that were anodized aluminum that looked EXACTLY like that
@RandyRandersonthefamous
3 жыл бұрын
@@IBWatchinUrVids It COULD be a high temp plastic but honestly I doubt it. It's likely PLA which will melt if left in the sun in a hot car. Will it be fine for this? probably.
@GFTP100
3 жыл бұрын
@@RandyRandersonthefamous , PET-G is the preferred filament from a durability and gasoline vapor resistance standpoint. The owner may want to leave the carb and fuel system set up for gasoline for portability. Nylon filament is also an excellent choice but tricky to print.
@kerrymarris4260
Жыл бұрын
You got to tell them that propane and natural gas is the only gas that never goes bad.
@LinLoManny006
4 жыл бұрын
"*.*" ...>> " Very Good ! ! .. I understood everything ! " , ... Thanks so much ! "
@ondago2
3 жыл бұрын
measured and detailed. thank you. I will consider doing this conversion and I thought I wanted Propane but now I will look in to what it'd take to get my LP Gas feed over to where I keep the big portable Genset.
@markdavid4897
3 жыл бұрын
Natural Gas is 5X cheaper per hour than Propane.
@Hiker63
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool setup. I know that the dual fuel generator I own has less output when using propane than it does when using gasoline.
@Cragified
5 жыл бұрын
Less energy density in propane or natural gas. Now if the engine is designed for it you can up the compression and advance the timing since NG has a much higher anti knock properties and regain a lot of that power. Conversions will always reduce power output but it is still better then no power at all.
@Hiker63
4 жыл бұрын
Cragified I agree.
@leoschneider3570
3 жыл бұрын
This is why I purchased the conversion kit for the model of generator, rather just the engine
@lundebc
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very good info!
@lucasdelossantos8402
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep this video just in case my next home has natural gas. Right now I’m all electric and going natural gas it’s just too expensive. Great video.
@AreaThirteenThirteen
4 жыл бұрын
Get a propane conversion kit which is virtually the same as this one, then you can use the tanks that run gas BBQ grills even though the capacity is limited you can have extra ones on hand or get a bigger tank and not have to worry about it going bad in storage. I remember after Hurricane Ike gasoline was hard to find but you could get those small propane exchange tanks at the same stores that weren't pumping gas because their pumps were down.
@NitrousBanshee
4 жыл бұрын
I was literally looking at some of those parts thinking I could 3D print those. And then you show is the spacer and its 3D printed. :-) LOL
@edbouhl3100
3 жыл бұрын
How durable do you think that plastic is, and how prone to brittleness over time? Most of the kit inserts are at least part plastic.
@davep6977
Жыл бұрын
I'm gathering you got your gas supply from the "street side" to get 5psi. Most house regulators drop the pressure in the hose 1/4 psi. I like "open flow" shut of feature. I have those devices in my house. Also, in leu of watching your neighbors, attach a small bulb to the utility side. Connect when power is off
@randybird9979
6 жыл бұрын
the good thing about propane, it don't go stale like gas
@ottoroth9377
5 жыл бұрын
Randy, mine uses gasoline, i use a whole bottle of Sea Foam, and fill the tank with Premium fuel...generator runs cooler...plus i shut off the fuel valve and allow the engine to run all fuel out.
@MatHelm
5 жыл бұрын
@@ottoroth9377 Premium fuel (and Sea Foam) are a waste. High octane fuel starts out "Stale'r" than low octane. Octane is a measure of how far gas can be compressed before it self combust, not a measure of quality or how potent it is. In fact, the higher the octane rating, the less potent it is. The only thing you need to know is to always shut down the generator by shutting off the fuel (in the case of gasoline). Do this, and you can let it sit for three years with cheap (highly potent) low octane gas in it, and it'll start on the first pull... Assuming you remember to turn the fuel valve back on...
@ottoroth9377
5 жыл бұрын
@@MatHelm I USUALLY TURN OFF THE FUEL VALVE SO THE CARB WON'T GUM UP, WHILE THE GENERATOR IS RUNNIG, I SHUT OFF THE FUEL VALVE AND LET IT USE WHAT FUEL IS IN THE FLOAT BOWL..REASON i PUT SEAFOAM IN THE TANK IS TO KEEP THE MOISTURE FROM RUSTING THE TANK, AND OF COURSE PRESERVE THE FUEL, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF GASOLINES IN THE CINCINNATI AREA SOLD BY GROCERY STORES THAT HAVE AS MUCH AS 16% OF WATER IN THE FUEL, SO THE "FUEL POINTS" THEY SAY YOU CAN USE ACTUALLY CAN HARM YOUR CAR...MY SILVERADO WILL NOT RUN WELL ON CHEAP KROGER REGULAR 87 GAS, BUT WILL PERFORM WELL ON 89 AND 93 OCTANE.
@BillyBob-os7kr
5 жыл бұрын
Otto Roth I worked on small engines for years one thing you’re not doing right is after you run it out you need to drop the bowl because they’re still going to be a full bowl of gas in there and that will turn to varnish
@ottoroth9377
5 жыл бұрын
@@BillyBob-os7kr one thing I Do is shut off the fuel supply and run the generator until ALL fuel runs dry in the lines and bowl..the preservative in the fuel keeps the tank full of gas fresh. I've been around small engines for 55 years and know what is good, and not good.
@ncrdisabled
6 жыл бұрын
I am a disabled vet and need power for some of the things I have to have. we have a well also and got lucky when tractor supply on labor day I got 15 5 off plus 10 % for my vet discount.I bought a 10k start and 9500 run my gen is duel fuel.It says you will lose 450 WATS running off propane I found it was 396 watts . I dad used a 6k gas gen set since 2000 . Thanks for video who need a propane hookup.
@Mike_Neukam
6 жыл бұрын
If the male portion of the quick disconnect doesn't have a valve to shut off the gas flow when it's disconnected you will have a major gas leak if it ever comes off while the gas valve is on. I would suggest switching the male and female couplers on the generator end of the hose so that gas flows from the female end to the male end of the coupler to avoid any potential accidents
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
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@HammondOfTexas0
6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of shut offs. I would move that valve inside just to eliminate the potential of some random kid turning it on and messing with it.
@Mike_Neukam
6 жыл бұрын
@@HammondOfTexas0 Good point
@edbouhl3100
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea but then what shuts off air moving freely up the natural gas channel to the carburetor? Better to add a shutoff valve between the male disconnect and the regulator.
@blevins923
5 жыл бұрын
Earlier this year we bought a Champion Duel Fuel generator. I enquired about buying an aftermarket conversion kit for natural gas. I was clearly told that it may be against environmental laws. I was also told converting my generator would void my warranty. I’ll a look at it again after my warranty has expired.
@blevins923
5 жыл бұрын
@George Nelson I'm aware of this. I wanted to point out anyone who converts a new generator over to natural gas. May run into warranty issues if they have problems running after converting it over. I wanted nothing to do with gasoline. This is my second machine. My first generator ran on gasoline. Although it ran just fine at first. Then it gave me nothing but problems in the long term. I ended up scrapping it. That’s why I looked at propane. It has none of the storage issues of gas.
@frankp5786
6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job! Thank you....
@gottagift
2 ай бұрын
Got to love the ability to step away from gasoline. I just bought a tri-fuel unit and promptly removed the gas tank. Will the generator run louder, cooler with no fuel tank in the way??? Just nice to know i can avoid worries about fuel quality. and no worries about carburetor getting fouled up either. There's something about refilling a hot generator with fresh gas every ten hours that sounds risky. Always try to have 6-10 quarts of oil on hand... A log book for maintenance doesn't hurt either.
@frankbiz
6 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are very talented.
@charliehustle544
5 жыл бұрын
I was considering going this route, but wasn't convinced on the efficacy of this kit. And, the price seemed kind of high. And, I didn't want to have to cut the frame, yadda-yadda. So, I looked and looked and found a carburetor on Amazon for about $35. It was a straight swap out and worked without mods. I spent about an hour and $20 on the various hoses and fittings. It runs on gasoline, propane, and natural gas.
@RepairGeek
5 жыл бұрын
I looked at those as well but they didn't have many reviews and I really didn't want to spend $100 of my time to buy a cheaper part if that makes sense. I just went with what I knew would work. Thanks for the info.
@Themightymoze
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Thank you!
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
The Urban Archaeologist thanks for watching.
@ilonachomic7413
3 ай бұрын
Hi, the spacer plate that you made is not necessary. The natural gas plate should go between the head and the carburetor. The air cleaner box should bolt up to the carburetor. Then you will not have the gap and will not need longer bolts. Very good video. Thanks
@bigtxbullion
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, straightforward content and presentation. New subscriber. Great job and many thanks!
@wooddawg4868
4 жыл бұрын
One thing about this conversion is you can still use gas if you need or want to, secondly you never have to cut the frame in any conversion kit, I just used a longer rubber hose and cut away engine plastic shield on my Briggs and Stratton for clearance.
@dpeagles
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video One side note. Some homes have 1/2 pound natural gas pressure, others have 2 pound. If you have 2 pound natural gas pressure you'll need a pressure regulator to reduce the pressure to 1/2 pound. I just had a generator interlock installed on my house. Fingers crossed.
@layereight3289
4 жыл бұрын
Very nice job. I'm with you about not hacking up your generator frame.
@BrianMaynardLetsDoThisThing
6 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks for the info.
@jacobsurprenant5714
2 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI from running solely on generators for power (live off grid) you want to adjust to 60 Htz under load, not just running. You'll notice your wattage drops back to what it was on gas but still stays steady.
@williamdavis1781
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work on this video. Very useful and informative
@davegeorge7094
5 жыл бұрын
Paying zero road taxes makes a big difference! Being stationary allows use of any energy source.
@RepairGeek
5 жыл бұрын
Very good point!
@johnvrbka570
6 жыл бұрын
Recommend adjusting mixture while under load . find max rpm then richen fuel with approx.50 rpm.drop don't want Alan running engine not good on exhaust valves true propane and ng engines usually have harder valves and valve seats with out valve rotaters
@abbysapples1225
4 жыл бұрын
Almost immediately after you turn the dryer on the test it out on natural gas the screen went black. I said to myself and laughed oh the power went off. But what it was was an advertisement. Lol Great video I learned a lot thank you for your time.
@reinaldoravicini5960
5 жыл бұрын
Hello and congrats for that usefull video... Im about to get a westinghouse Wg9500, I cant find any kit for the new models of westinghose PG... the old kits works?
@crazypete3759
6 жыл бұрын
I would make sure to have plenty of extra propane tanks. if the power outage lasts long enough and is effecting your natural gas supplier they may shut down. also in some cases the utility company shuts down service for safety reasons, houses that have collapsed are probably leaking natural gas so to prevent injury to first responders it is common practice for utility companies to shut off the natural gas and electrical service. propane is a really good backup source. it will last forever without any additives and usually costs you less $ per kw to run.
@lonnieporter8566
2 жыл бұрын
Good info for those who need it. Mine is a dual fuel model so I'm already set.
@DeadKoby
6 жыл бұрын
I have an installed generator that runs on NG. It's nice, and works well. Mine has a big Briggs V-Twin
@melissaarriaga4
5 жыл бұрын
Only problem I see with this setup, when your neighbors see your the only house with lights on for miles, you'll get uninvited guests constantly.
@FlyEaglesFly19111
5 жыл бұрын
Or all of a sudden silence and generator is gone
@stevek5416
5 жыл бұрын
If they bring gasoline and have a long enough extension cord of sufficient gauge, then they can also have power. During our power outage after hurricane Wilma, I wheeled my freezer over to my neighbors house and shared in the feeding of the generator with fuel.
@tuomasholo
4 жыл бұрын
Those uninvited guests can get uninvited bullets if they pose a threat.
@digitaldan8223
4 жыл бұрын
It starts getting crazy after a couple days of no power after a hurricane down here in Florida. I haven't had to shoot anyone yet, but have ejected the first #7 bird shot shell and loaded #00 buck shot on 2 occasions. It's amazing what the sound of a pump action 12 gauge shotgun can do. My generator is now locked in place with a very large chain that bolt cutters can't touch along with being bolted down to a concrete slab with uncommon "security" hardware.
@epiphonium
4 жыл бұрын
@@tuomasholo uh oh we got us a internet bad ass over here look out !
@doogdoogdoogdoog9198
6 жыл бұрын
Nice job and I would like to suggest that you add a shut off valve before the quick connect if you don't already have one installed.
@JeffreyGroves
6 жыл бұрын
Consumables like any of the items that you bought are not investments. You will never make money from them -- and that is ok. Trying to delude yourself into thinking you're doing better than you are by calling a purchase is an "investment" is just that: a delusion. All that being said, what you are doing with this conversion is excellent even without worrying about making your money back. It's an elegant and care-free solution -- especially since you don't have to worry about your carburetor getting gummed-up with old gasoline. Thanks for showing us how this is done.
@toddlane4086
6 жыл бұрын
So what im seeing is, you can still run gasoline or with the plate etc...once out of gasoline you can connect the natural gas or propane and fire it again?????
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
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@Ozzie4Para
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Champion 10kw generator that I bought a couple years ago. I bought the tri-fuel kit from the US Carb website and I did the complete install in less than one hour from start to finish. I then bought a 100 gallon LP tank and I put it next to my backyard shed's main door so I could easily hook up my generator to the LP tank. This setup has worked perfectly for us without worrying about needing to refuel the generator's gas tank every five hours or so. Plus LP has a very long shelf life unlike gasoline that's pretty hard to store both reliably and safely.
@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch
6 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative! We just purchased The Ryobi 700 watt continuous, propane generator which we plan to use as a range extender for our EV scooter, I’m studying videos like yours to learn more about using alternative fuels such as propane and CNG to run engines. Exciting information. Thanks again!
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
True Zero Emissions no problem. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
@trith72
2 ай бұрын
The rule of thumb for gasoline conversion to natural gas is about 13% loss of power when on NG. Propane is a little better, it's about a 6-7% loss. The loss in both cases for moving to gaseous fuels is due to BTUs. Liquid gasoline, while having a lower octane rating than propane or NG, has a better BTU rating and delivery, making it produce slightly more energy when using the same engine.
@joeldoodnath5081
6 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've came across durning my research (Great Work), I'm considering purchasing a 12000kw portable generator for hurricane season since I live in South FL to power my house in case of outage. I do have Natural Gas installed in my house and it would make sense to utilize this fuel source in lieu of many gas cans stored in my garage, my question to you is, would it be best to purchase a generator thats already equipped to run off gas and propane (Dual Fuel) and then convert? or just purchase a generator without the propane connection and then convert?? also can you provide a link for the conversation kit.. Thank you
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
Joel Doodnath First of all thanks. I really tried to do a better job than most of the other conversion videos out there. I have links in the description for all of the information that I used to put together my entire system. Including the kit itself. As far as should you buy a generator made for propane then convert to natural gas? So, engines that are designed to run on "dry" fuels have hardened valves and valve seats because, gasoline is a lubricant for the valves. Propane and natural gas do not lubricate. So, yes there is a slight difference in the engines. Valvoline actually makes a motor oil designed for natural gas engines. I wanted to cover this as well in the video but, for the sake of time I left it out. Personally I would buy a normal gas engine and convert it. The reason is this: the purchase price of a normal gasoline engine will be cheaper than a propane one. IF you have issues with the valves in the future you can remove the head or heads, (in about 15 minutes) take it to a machine shop, and have new hardended valves and seats put in it. And it will probably be cheaper than buying a "propane" generator from the start. I have to imagine this would only be an issue after 100s of hours of runtime. It really comes down to do you want to POSSIBLY go through that in the future. Also many of these generators come out of the same factory with different labels. Much like air compressors talked about in another one of my videos. For example this Ridgid I own was produced by One World Technologies. They also make generators under the name Power Stroke. The specs are the same, same Honda engine, same generator head, etc. one just costs more than the other. So look around and do some googling for more info. If you need more information email me. repairgeek365@gmail.com
@bryanrunyan8011
4 жыл бұрын
Good video, the only thing I would change is the connectors from hose to generator, I would put the female connector on the hose because if for some reason the house shutoff was on it would vent out the open end hose when plugged in if the male connector was on.
@RepairGeek
4 жыл бұрын
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@liam9644
6 жыл бұрын
A BS free video. Appreciate that.
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
No problem. I can't guarantee all of my videos are that way but I try to make sure you know what to expect if you're trying to do or buy what I am in the video. Thanks for watching.
@stuartgibson1896
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I’m not understanding why people aren’t doing a few more small modifications so that the generator can remain inside a garage. Running a longer exhaust pipe either piping fumes out a wall or slightly raised garage door. I have a detached garage. My generator setup will be in there powering the house and power cut off at the pole.
@loungelizard836
5 жыл бұрын
Great information, nice professional video! Suggestion: Now add a snorkel to the exhaust to quiet it and allow you to place the genset into your garage, where you can make use of the waste heat (seeing as you live in a place with snow on the ground).
@azopene
4 жыл бұрын
It is not wise to run an engine inside a garage especially if it's an attached garage. CO will kill you.
@unti419
5 жыл бұрын
I''ve been through two tornadoes and each time it was the same. Even if you just lost some siding and maybe a few windows, the local idiot authorities will order all electric and gas killed to even lightly affected homes. Even water in some cases. I don't know why but they do that. Tri fuel is the way to go. You can survive the storm, but surviving the local government may be the bigger challenge.
@510Redneck
4 жыл бұрын
True but still great for those out in the country that feed off wells that the gov. can't shut off.... which is tons in just my area alone.
@240Volts
6 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I want instead of a stupid snorkel. I tried to DIY my own snorkel I could only keep it running ( of course with some sputters and pops ) holding the primer down on the garretson valve. I will be heading over to nash fuel hope they have one for my powermate generator.
@The_DC_Kid
4 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight has terrific bargains on large generators. I recently bought two of their 7,000 running watts gens and I plan to resell them for twice what I paid when the time is right. I live in an area of potentially huge earthquakes and we're 10 years overdue. And in the summer, right when the weather is hottest, the power company has begun shutting off electricity to certain areas when there is potential for transmission lines causing brush fires. The way I see it, EVERYONE who lives in this area is aware of those occurrences and so should already have a genny. I'll be happy to sell mine to the short-sighted who sometimes thought about and/or always MEANT to get one but just didn't have the time nor money left over after filling their house and their lives with "important" crap they really needed such as tattoos and studs and a newer car with loads of options and vacations to exotic and expensive places. Come on EARTHQUAKE! BTW, I also have another gen for my own home.
@darrelloverfelt3512
6 жыл бұрын
I have heard that the LP gas doesn't have the lubricating properties of gasoline and so it burns valves quicker. Is there a way to keep that from happening?
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
Natural gas and propane are dry fuels meaning, they have no lubricating properties like gasoline. The reason the valves can burn is: as the valves open and close using dry fuels, the valves are not cushioned as they hit the valve seats like they would be with gasoline. This causes what is called, valve recession- where the valve sinks further and further into the seat and into the head. This throws the valve adjustment out of spec, eventually causing the valve to hang open and possibly burn because it is misadjusted. Chances are the engine will not run correctly before the valves burn. More frequent valve adjustments will help prevent valve burning issues. You may not have a valve recession issue for possibly 1000s of hours of runtime. You have 2 ways of reducing valve recession. Adding a lubricant to the intake air or installing hardened valves and valve seats. I looked into adding a lubricator to the intake but, something that fits an engine this small is non existent. If I have a valve recession issue I can have the head off this engine in 15 minutes. So, I'll take it to a machine shop and have hardened valves and seats installed.
@TheMetheman1
6 жыл бұрын
run it off fuel now and then and youd probably be okay
@scottfirman
6 жыл бұрын
Hog wash!
@jamest.5001
6 жыл бұрын
Darrell Overfelt since engines have been redesigned to run on unleades gas. Most have hardened valve seats. Either way. The wear is minimal. And with overhead valves . there could be the slightest bit of oil film seeping down the valve. When its not running. That can help lube. And you could fill the carb with 2 cycle oil it will likely only allow a very small amount of oil to pass oiling the valves . crazy idea I know! Also the the wear is very slight. It would still last years. There will likely be other failures ending its use.
@Bob.W.
5 жыл бұрын
No matter what fuel you run, build a simple battery inverter system to power lights and phones. Use the generator only when cooking, washing and to charge the batteries. Maybe 4-5 hours a day. Unless you need it for heat of course. Saves fuel and eliminates risk of nighttime theft.
@perrysmith6872
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! 👍 Thank u very much for the information . I live by myself and I'd like to set up a larger generator to run my entire house 24/7 on natural gas . Hench do away with the electric bill ALL together . As I do not us alot of electric . I don't agree with all the added charges on my bill . Seems like I'm paying more to get it shipped along with other nonsense charges than I'm actually using . Thank you again . Patriot Perry .
@QuantumRift
6 жыл бұрын
I always keep at least a 5 gal can of water handy for toilet flushing in case power goes out...plus we have a .5 acre pond. I have a 3.5Kw generator I've converted to propane, and i can switch it back and forth pretty easily. Plus, as you say, propane runs cleaner and the oil in the engine won''t gunk up or degrade as fast as running on gasoline.
@twilliamson3
6 жыл бұрын
Was that spacer 3d Printed?
@ronyerke9250
6 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a 3D printer that could use Aluminum. Most likely it was either drilled and sawn from a plate, or he used a CNC machine to shape the plate.
@mirthenemrys
6 жыл бұрын
The purchased part, yeah that looked printed with the metal added to connect the hose up. The part he added was metal and crafted by hand or cnc.
@sugarbooty
6 жыл бұрын
T'was
@MartyMooneysecondgenRATG
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video young man and great information.
@andrewness2153
6 жыл бұрын
Great video! We live down in South Florida and were looking for a new dual fuel generator for Gasoline/LP. But we have natural gas lines in the house so ill probably go this route! After all, making runs to get either gasoline or LP after a devastating hurricane is much easier said than done. Stations cant pump gasoline with now power and LP becomes scarce real quick. Speaking from experience haha! Much appreciated!!
@RepairGeek
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Ness no problem, glad to help.
@fabianseewald7884
3 жыл бұрын
you could use relais also to automate the setup if you have invested north of 200$ you might assell invest another 50, hook it up to your main so whenever their is power it disconnects and shuts off.
@parrowpee
6 жыл бұрын
You said you had a problem not knowing when your power came back while operating the geny. All you need do is wire a 240v light bulb taken from a heater switch or stove into the breaker panel. This bulb will be connected at the main lugs of the breakers CAUTION ALWAYS HOT This small bulb can now be installed on your breaker cover as an indicator to say when mains power is back. Hope that helps.
@neilbrookins8428
3 жыл бұрын
I see you have the reliance controls power meters. The same company makes the “power back” alarm. It will tell you when the street grid power is restored even when your main breaker is off.
@JK-br9lh
5 жыл бұрын
Very good video !. During the last power outage , I purchase a gasoline generator ( 8.5 Kw) . I connected the same way you had your connections. The down side is I go through 5 gallons of gas every 12 hours- not convenient. In the spring I will create connections for a natural gas hook up.
@albertobriceno6523
5 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, from what I understand and reading your comment, the generator is gasoline and the additional installation to gas or propane is so that it also works in a dual way?
@NordicViking88
4 жыл бұрын
just bought a DUROMAX 12000-Watt Electric Start Dual Fuel Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator and ill be running this off of our natural gas line as well it runs great off of propane and gas but if we want any lasting power we will be running the natural gas and have some gas and propane for backup just in case.
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