I think catapults are nicely countered by knights and partially countered by balistas on towers.
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they struggle against fast moving targets and when you're making catapults I assume you already have a nice army behind them so they don't get ran over It's just they put so much pressure on the opponent and no other unit can do that
@marcinwitkowski6989
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jefflenious But they also need nice micro-managment.
@kekaisaranottoman8431
2 жыл бұрын
but they are usefull because they can throw a cow and if the Enemy are Idle and you don't have Cheese Farm that have a cow, you can make them shoot the enemy by Throwing Rock at Them and directly hit the Enemy.
@crowlsyong
2 жыл бұрын
Knights are solid but it can be dangerous because if you make a ton of knights and half get killed by catapults, the player with the knights is out more gold thus making the counter an inefficient investment. Lol idk what I’m talking about, did that even make sense?
@psrsasalehi3390
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget horse archers
@99jean88
2 жыл бұрын
One day I made 30 catapults.When I look back I see that I've 12 left because a woodcutter crossed paths with them. How do you counter a woodcutter?
@greatveemon2
2 жыл бұрын
they're broken af they can't be touched by siege weapons. I lost my 40 fire balistas because of them,
@kekaisaranottoman8431
2 жыл бұрын
@@greatveemon2 but they are usefull if you want any Support from Civillian, but they must Walk into the Enemy so they can attack them, Remember they can only Handle weak Enemy like Archer, Spearmen, and Tunneler.
@Phoenix-qv9hg
2 жыл бұрын
Ofc. Katapults are made of wood after all. You can counter woodcutters by using non wood units.
@yeet877
2 жыл бұрын
30? Rookie numbers.
@Ugh718
2 жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-qv9hg *_LOL_*
@Tork789
2 жыл бұрын
"Almost never cost efficient. Just the best unit on unlimited economy." - that's a good description for knights IRL as well.
@AwakenedAvocado
Жыл бұрын
I onlt use knights , everyman in my army has been knighted
@MegaLol2xd
2 жыл бұрын
You can always counter catapults with even more catapults. Happy new year 🎉❣️
@flooosha2376
14 күн бұрын
You can always counter even more catapults with even even more catapults
@ryuno2097
11 ай бұрын
Damn. After 21 years, i only found out after watching this video that the monks can actually be used as military units
@demonicdragon318
4 ай бұрын
I never bothered useing them but holy vrap 10 gold a piece
@Rufgaudas
2 жыл бұрын
2:09 Actually Slingers are very effective vs slaves, I always have few when playing vs Caliph :)
@Volcano4981
2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Slingers are hands down the best anti-rush defence. Cheap and no extra weapon costs, deal okay damage, 2-shotting slaves, they have okay survivability and melee performance and can even rain down rocks on and pose a mild threat to armoured foes in a pinch. Pretty much the only way to end a sizeable group of them is having archers around that early on, and you can simply back them up with a small elite detachment of archers of your own and maybe a shield or two.
@Luke_Danger
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, when people are asking about countering slaves they're probably more talking about trying to stop them from rushing and setting everything on fire rather than finding a way to kill them. To which the only real reliable way is to just have some patrols or maybe a QRF of Macemen, Horse Archers, or Knights to run them down and constant vigilance to spot a slave raid.
@somber8233
2 жыл бұрын
If it's a small area like your stone quarries or your farms then stacking 35 slingers on a lookout tower is the cheapest and most efficient way. If you need to cover more ground/resources, use the lookout tower but with archers.
@dradonie
Жыл бұрын
or just any archer type except crossbowmen
@ajduong
2 жыл бұрын
The best counter to catapults in my experience, are slaves. Catapults can only hit one at a time and slaves are also quite fast
@hellatze
2 жыл бұрын
Catapult is a tank therfore need a support So. N
@beardsntools
4 ай бұрын
@ze they will be dead long before they reach catapults if player has decent amount of them and if he is skilled enough to use them. The only thing that counters catapults is just more catapults
@TM0TP
3 ай бұрын
assassins would probably be good counters or knights, on castle defence mangonels are a good counter aswell as long as you have like 20+ on towers.
@beardsntools
3 ай бұрын
@@TM0TP Nah nothing stops catapults, as long as they have someone who knows how to use them, also your towers will all get deleted in 2 seconds
@TM0TP
3 ай бұрын
@@beardsntools yes catapults has counters they counter themselves lol. and yea if you have over 100 catapults then indeed there is no counter.
@TombstoneThe
2 жыл бұрын
i haven't played this game but I like your videos. this game really reminds me of Lords of the Realm 2 in a lot of ways, especially with the role Pikemen play as tanky melee units, and how moats work with melee units being able to fill them in.
@adityasidhiqpratama2283
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously dude, this channel makes me play stronghold again after 6 years
@nocomment6421
Жыл бұрын
How have you not Played Stronghold yet
@jackog44
2 жыл бұрын
Recently came back to the game after a good 10-15 years, really appreciate the vids
@dzulfiqardifa6037
2 жыл бұрын
You can outsnipe cats (catapults) with tower ballistas ...of course, you need a lot of towers for it to be effective so let's say its a soft counter Hard counter probably fast moving melee units
@PstruhovaAsistentka
2 жыл бұрын
Actually is better have mangonels on towers. For example in mission big one is more effective use mangonels (about 3 is enough 5 is better) also in lot of missions where bigger attacks come from one direction. I prefer mangonels.
@leopards321
2 жыл бұрын
If ur ground isn't suitable for moat-digging to block the assassins, u can create double crenellations, assassins won't be able to climb, but the gatehouses are still vulnerable, placing some heavy infantry units above it will help
@crowlsyong
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I love your videos they make me laugh. Thank you :)
@Aaahrg
2 жыл бұрын
Monks and Catapults, the reason the Abbot is much stronger in AI-Matches than you think (at least when the enemy dont use bows too much)
@kekaisaranottoman8431
2 жыл бұрын
but they weak ngl, if they are in Straight line, they can be Takedown with any Archer.
@kareem5653
2 жыл бұрын
Abbot send me around 1,000+ Monks vs 200 swords men and half of the monks if not were dead. Horse arches eat monks like a caveman that hasn't eaten in 100 years. I'm pretty sure if 1000 monks vs 1000 swords men sword men always win. Strongest melee.
@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
Жыл бұрын
@@kareem5653 no, swordsmen won't win, because monks deal bonus damage to armored units and has more damage, and also faster attack speed. Those monks can just stack and the swordsmen will be swept.
@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
Жыл бұрын
@@kareem5653 reason you won against abbot is because he always have max negative fear factor which makes his monks so much more weaker.
@vladdracul895
2 жыл бұрын
Great help, thanks!
@nourechaara3847
2 жыл бұрын
Man ty for your advices
@theultimatejoyofgaming7559
5 ай бұрын
hey jeff love your content!! i have a good idea for encountering arabian swordsmen and any tank units which archers cant really kill... so, we place slingers ahead of the archers and the archers are to be in huge numbers.... so, slingers deal with tanks and archers deal with range while also assissting slingers...
@hellothere-ij2ij
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@P0P218
Жыл бұрын
imagine what the game would be like if units were limited to one per tile and only friendly units can pass through (so they don't clog up walls as much)
@SIBUK
Жыл бұрын
Knights have actually become one of my favourite units. I get a bunch of them and then charge around the outside of my enemies castle and quickly destroy all the buildings that lie outside of the castle walls and cripple their economy. Then I send in my main attack.
@Ronin3453
10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Knights are not exactly for direct combat, but for raids, counter raids and hit&run tactics.
@whydoyougottahavthis
2 жыл бұрын
I almost died laughing at your serious near robotic tone with the catapults I was thinking you're gonna say horse archers or something but nope "They're broken" lmao
@ExilerZero
4 ай бұрын
Catapults can be countered with archers and tower ballistas... Actually the real broken is horse archer and tower ballistas... Horse archer in large group with high morale can counter knights and swordsman
@beardsntools
4 ай бұрын
@@ExilerZero Unless your opponent doesn't know what he is doing or only has few of them, no you can't take out catapults with anything other than more catapults. Your tower ballistas will be deleted with all your buildings in 2-3 shots and all your ground units will be dead when your opponent rolls in with hundreds of catapults.
@MrBru1985
Жыл бұрын
The slave quote got me lol ahahah, also i think that fire ballistae are quite broken when are in large numbers.
@Dolfy
2 жыл бұрын
vs catapults: become god at repairing walls and towers
@rontehrani9746
4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@user-mo2sx8ej6p
10 ай бұрын
You're smart and funny. Way to go!
@sorenatesa4479
2 жыл бұрын
Happy new yer jef
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@kuchihashman3829
Жыл бұрын
Haven't played it in over 10 years and yet I am here
@donaldkeller6949
Жыл бұрын
A bunch of towered Ballista's tears through catapults. You just need a wall in front of the towers to tank hits for a few seconds.
@abdohassan8866
2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year from Egypt
@albertonavarro8904
2 жыл бұрын
Also slingers are more effective than one would think against armored units
@andreansyemmahmikaputra8018
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, cheap and faster... Maybe combine with portabel Shield is good against the archer...
@zachdugan7320
Жыл бұрын
catapults/trebs are most effectively countered with fast melee units (or tower ballistae for catapults). its why you escort your siege engines
@ShihammeDarc
2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you described how to play against insufferable slave arson tactics in the slave counter part
@Ronin3453
10 ай бұрын
Slingers.
@typowytyp1080
2 жыл бұрын
nice vid
@Gabrielbarsch
2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to talk about the ladderman
@yashida1999
2 жыл бұрын
You have plan to make this vid on different stronghold title? Also happy new year Jeff! :D
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
Don't think so, my viewers aren't interested and I don't like the 3D games that much either. But there will be some video every once in a while!
@ArthurHerbst
2 жыл бұрын
Assasins actually do quite some bonus damage against knights. Maybe against Pikemen and Swordsmen too, cant remember. Probably not as cost efficiant as monks, but what is...
@blacklight4720
2 жыл бұрын
"Not having Walls" I laughed.
@Gingham_tale
2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when you talk about how to counter slaves lol🤣
@hippityhoppity657
2 жыл бұрын
make a video on the quickest way to deal with every AI lord
@zoemaomi
2 жыл бұрын
Jeff jeff jeff can you make a video on: what's the ratio of production buildings to make it cost-efficient? I feel like the leather workshop and crossbow workshop got different ratio every game i put them down.
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
Does highly depend on their distance to the stockpiles, but I can try to make one!
@i.mahdihosseini
2 ай бұрын
tower balistas are the only thing you can use for catapults. and you need A LOT of them
@unforgiven1477
2 жыл бұрын
good video i agree with your statement
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with my statement
@henrry889
2 жыл бұрын
If you can flank whatever units are defending catapults, assassins can sneak up on them before getting one shotted by them.
@avandarkwalker9132
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh nothing beats an early archer rush to maximize pressure and then building up more archers and catapults, to finish the lord a bunch of assassins will do the job. So far that strategy works wonder for me against almost any AI except for the Wolf sometimes.
@bre4kd0wn1
10 ай бұрын
My solution against Catapult, or any siege equipment for that matter, is to have a fast-moving unit to destroy it. As for Portable Shield and Horse Archer, in my experiences going against Wolf and Saladin, their Mangonels can surprisingly deal with my Portable Shield and Horse Archer well, so well that I have to resort to bust some Catapults and Macemen on their towers.
@HyperionStudiosDE
Жыл бұрын
I found using 200 horse archers works against pretty much anything.
@abccba5125
11 ай бұрын
Usually I utilise same tactic for clear towers and walls defences, but if enemy stronghold is crowded with foes and machines you get decimated and the costs to replenish your forces is onerous
@HyperionStudiosDE
11 ай бұрын
@@abccba5125 Not if you make your horse archers zigzag constantly. But I don't even do that anymore because it's too cheesy.
@shaunholt
Жыл бұрын
Counter to catapults: hope the other player forgets to select targets, because they tend to simply sit there.
@Cetus2222
2 жыл бұрын
I can't comment on every video you are so fast rn.
@jamesputra1729
2 жыл бұрын
Tower with balistae are great counter to siege engines except trebutchet beacuse of their range, balista can deal great damage in each shot but their lower rof are main concern especially against mass unit
@avagata9309
Жыл бұрын
If I were to do this video I would put catapults as every counter
@dpmfarmasiump753
2 жыл бұрын
ah yes another daily dose of jefflenious
@Schizonibba
2 жыл бұрын
So basically I just spam catapults to break the walls and buildings then I swarm them with monks. Defense as always is the magic mixture of moat laberynths and fire/arrows/bolts and some tanking units at the end
@gubashitalks1415
2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel ... but why don't you record with your own voice ? just curious .. i love it anyway
@kareem5653
2 жыл бұрын
Catapults can be countered by Horse Arches because they are fast and catapults will miss some assuming same amount of both.
@andrejchalas6799
Жыл бұрын
U are never going to play only catapults. Its alwas catapults+horsearchers+shields. Its a unit that never comes alone. But you are right in terms of one unit againist one unit
@David-yw4qd
2 жыл бұрын
Monks! i never would have thought they are my most overlooked units
@yeet877
2 жыл бұрын
How do you actually counter slaves tho? I just cant seem to beat them.
@ReiP95
2 жыл бұрын
Catapults are actually modern rifled breech loading modern cannons
@xhappybunnyx
Жыл бұрын
My bro just told me he was having a hard time against the flame-torch-carrying units in one of the trail maps... ima send this to him
@the_diplomat51
11 ай бұрын
I would argue that knights roaming around unchecked spells disaster for unguarded archer blobs. High risk high reward unit to maneuver and use, but fun.
@Jan_Heckmann
2 жыл бұрын
Catapults are countered by Assassin's, Knights, Melees, Mangonels and by a Combination of Others Catapults and Trebuchets.
@birisuandrei1551
Жыл бұрын
Mass Fire ballista is probably worse than mass catapult cause it doesn't use stone to fire, most games your catapult spam is limited by having 2-3 quarries..
@Azhureus
11 ай бұрын
Monks are dope af, they are really strong on close combat, very good defensive unit, ofcs long range can kill them quick.
@george-adrianluca4948
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, but how about tunnelers and ladder ladies :D
@ErikAdalbertvanNagel
2 жыл бұрын
Slaves and especially tunnelers in large numbers can be terrifying.
@AnaRxistBoD
10 ай бұрын
And how do you counter ladder-men? Or tunnel-diggers? Or lumberjacks?
@mikaelbonaventuraarasatya902
2 жыл бұрын
I could say that The Abbot is big bren.
@herzogwolfmusic8098
4 ай бұрын
How do i counter Ladderman and Axechoppers?
@lordsnia2152
2 жыл бұрын
nice
@marine7522
2 жыл бұрын
We need daily 2 videos bro plz
@alanmt8819
4 ай бұрын
Catapults are easily countered by knights, monks, and archers/crossbowmen with shields?
@Khannah69
2 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, use crossbowmen
@zalybrainlessgenius503
2 жыл бұрын
But... how do I counter a woodcutter tho?
@mahmoodali5043
9 ай бұрын
best way to counter ANYTHING when you are attacking is Horsearcher. Also, never let horse archer stay still; their armor is moving and being hard to hit. Best counter to anything when you are defending is 1-1-1 mix of archer, arabian archers and crossbowmen; this ratio give you range, fire rate and firepower for each tower. counter against any siege weapon: horsearcher. 40 of them can destroy a catapult in 2 seconds and when the enemy has catapults together, just move to them and the horsearchers will melee attack them as well as firing on them basically, an army or horsearchers with a small core of crossbow men is an answer to anything. the only question is how many for each scenario, but 240 horsearchers that are always moving, supported by 60 crossbowmen for enemies that get close, will defeat any 300-600 army of another composition
@andreansyemmahmikaputra8018
4 ай бұрын
Is better change 60 crossbowmen with portabel Shield... They are to slow... Just move out horse archer and every melee unit Will be die
@lil_dave5658
2 жыл бұрын
Don't stop making stronghold Crusader videos
@MrGregor9124
2 жыл бұрын
How to counter every AI next (in attack and defense)
@user-ql7el6iv7e
3 ай бұрын
I beat knights by using archers and crossbowmen and i count catapults by using swordsmen try use crossbowmen and archers in towers together so they can beat units with high health
@ojd2296
2 жыл бұрын
The best counter to slaves is wages and individual rights, as they will no longer be slaves at that point
@WellingtonLee573
2 жыл бұрын
Wtf I had no idea monks were so good
@dewetuccarhikmet5212
2 жыл бұрын
If only I had learnt how to counter Tunnellers I could best the game
@tigeruppercut2000
5 ай бұрын
No wonder I always thought catapults were insanely powerful. If you get 50 of them you pretty much can level any AI castle in seconds
@tribalbacsi
2 жыл бұрын
Catapults and the others siege's are weak against tower ballistas and ground I use this way.
@Jefflenious
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah tower ballistas and even the ground ones are supposed to counter them, and they do well when there's only a few of them Against a swarm of catapults though nothing can stop them except catapults or a bunch of units charging at them
@unknown-sw2jv
2 жыл бұрын
I think catapults can be countered by manganel
@andreansyemmahmikaputra8018
4 ай бұрын
Mangonel? Is a little bit hard for 5 small stone with low chance to hit them 🗿
@Darkry
11 ай бұрын
Juse use mangonel against catapults :D Leave it firing at a spot, use like 4 towers an cover whole area in rocks. Can kill most units as well.
@darkranger116
Жыл бұрын
Assassins are not "tanky" but tbh they really do NOT need to be. They can kill every single unit in the game 1v1 except for the top 3 iron units (Arabian/European swordsmen, Knight). If an enemy uses double crenelations and motes, I just send my Assassin to defend my economy fields, and they normally do an incredible job every time. The fact that they're invisible makes your enemy think your Bread Basket is undefended. Assassins can 1v1 any cheap troop in the game that gets sent over. If they send horse archers, Assassins already have enough movement speed to reposition themselves so they dont get caught if you keep up your macro and then I just replace them with some archers or horses of my own. They're kinda like the "Reapers from Starcraft 2" of Stronghold in a way. And they've been my favorite Unit for a long time
@igorthelight
9 ай бұрын
Fire ballista's are pretty good against knights. Just protect them a little bit ;-)
@Krarilotus
2 жыл бұрын
A large number of cataputls is not countered by anything really xD (besides maybe another large number of catapults... lol) they can even volley down knights and i assume you have some support with them top deflect small amoutns of untis comin through
@Hooman775
6 ай бұрын
You too bro you too
@wizardboy3008
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile me: put 200 archer horse on patrol.
@Morpheus98
2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@omarabdelaty634
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand monks. Do they have higher attack damage or rate. Because I know they dont have the highest defense
@andreansyemmahmikaputra8018
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, me too... If 1Vs1 they still failed... But, that's not the point, right...?
@steffent.6477
Жыл бұрын
Arrows. Lots of them.
@blitzkrieg2928
Жыл бұрын
What about monks ?
@ultimatecorgi3392
2 жыл бұрын
But how do you counter lords
@FinnaPassAway
2 жыл бұрын
Catapults are countered by horse-archers . Just like right about everything else in this game
@andreibirisu4280
6 ай бұрын
you can't counter a large mass of fire ballista unless you outnumber them, especially if its a fire ballista/shield mix
@zandrojohnproductions4474
2 жыл бұрын
How do you counter a lord?
@shohan5772
2 жыл бұрын
I just run around enemy castle with my horde of horse archers and send swarms of assassins to kill the lord when possible.
@lordjosh286
7 ай бұрын
The fact that Monks counter almost everything kills me 😂
@dhavalpatil1515
2 жыл бұрын
Do the arrows shot with brazier do more damage than normal arrows as they are on fire?
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