Hi Dave, do these tricks apply to farms? Asking for a friend.
@bjduncc
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they add formation hotkeys for farms in the next update
@daveaoe
5 жыл бұрын
There's no how-to video that's gonna help with your farms....sorry
@TriRemo
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, patrolling farms gives infinite food. No joke.
@TheVarrio
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but my farms will always be better than you anyway.
@sanchitrelan8822
5 жыл бұрын
T90 Farms are magical they produce salmon
@BoxiesAU
5 жыл бұрын
This game is so ridiculously deep. I've been playing for 20 years and still learning stuff
@TheNuncFluens
4 жыл бұрын
@bruceownsu wat
@medicenpatoperonosoypatric6347
4 жыл бұрын
@bruceownsu no one cares you
@Arthur-sv1vk
4 жыл бұрын
@bruceownsu your english is pathetic enough to discredit any equally pathetic argument you tried to make, sorry.
@jameschen4854
4 жыл бұрын
bruceownsu what’s your point...?
@abdalbarghouthi9411
4 жыл бұрын
bruce is gay
@Dabeyoun
5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the Dave?
@Phlegethon
5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys spirit of the law here. I wish he would remove that montage
@michalblasko8740
5 жыл бұрын
@@Phlegethon hi bro how old are you? I want to know what community aoe has
@ClubMiata
5 жыл бұрын
Dave90Unofficial
@michalblasko8740
5 жыл бұрын
@@ClubMiata how old are you ?
@Empa.
5 жыл бұрын
*only guitar*
@pineappleguy7495
5 жыл бұрын
When you thought you knew pretty much all there is to know, Dave cames to slap you across the face
@465marko
4 жыл бұрын
And it hurts even more because he switches to aggresive half way through the slap
@gabrielfifield9620
4 жыл бұрын
@@465marko hahahahahahahaha nice one
@AetherXIV
5 жыл бұрын
not a second too long and packed with great tips and facts! thanks man
@465marko
4 жыл бұрын
that's what my girlfriend said!! Just kidding (... obviously I don't have a girlfriend).
@bitterlytruthful6811
4 жыл бұрын
465marko you ruined it by explaining😂😂😂
@boomitsgeorgio2355
5 жыл бұрын
Watch your feet kids, Dave is dropping some knowledge
@Nathren
5 жыл бұрын
This feels like such a helpful dive into AoE2 tips/tricks, thank you Dave.
@nigelctm
3 жыл бұрын
WARNING: Did some testing with this exact same setup and this no longer seems to apply with DE pathing. Stand ground seems to work a lot like aggressive when patrolling on DE except your units will mill about randomly before attacking more. Even if you use no attack stance first I don't seem to be able to surround many units and it just seems patrolling with aggressive is more consistent. This video needs a DE update and I wouldn't use this without practicing it yourself to know what you're doing.
@justincronkright5025
Жыл бұрын
I noticed SotL has done an update for it. He now suggests doing Attack Move most of the time, even though you might sometimes get melee unit stuttering. But that he thinks is just better if you're not as strong of a micro-er. You might forget your guys are on patrol and run all the way back - maybe splitting your army in half or something (half get procced to attack & the other half done recognise enemies nearby).
@nicholasavalos4381
5 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff never really gave a thought about all the attack commands until now
@akbrahma7739
5 жыл бұрын
It's quite similar to the oblique order adopted by the Greeks. A column hitting a flank.
@harooooo1
5 жыл бұрын
What about formations? I heard that when engaging with cavalry its good to put ur units on flank formation to surround enemies, or also, in general, use staggered instead of line formations to easily surround a large grp of xbows with ur knights for example.
@Qfungi
5 жыл бұрын
Youre an awesome caster. First time visiting the channel. Whenever I'm watching T90, I'm excited when youre co casting because I know you're gonna be watching the small details I care about
@haplon33
5 жыл бұрын
same. dave ftw
@Micharlus
5 жыл бұрын
The 4:43 enemy patrol test is wrong. You approach AI when it switches to run back. This way only half of enemies got aggroed right away while the rest of the army continued their patrol. This has a tremendous effect since it split enemy attack in half for a few seconds, letting you take advantage of the square law. If you could review this, it would be great. No player is going to patrol away from your units. Always into.
@jayjay_aussiebeef3648
5 жыл бұрын
That's so true. Thank you for commenting.
@UnfamiliarPlace
4 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether they're actively watching that group or just leaving it patrol because it's better than standing around. You can definitely catch them patrolling away at times. But it would be good to see what happens if they're paying attention and patrol into.
@Micharlus
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I've never seen that. Especially since people usually used patrol as attack-move command. You also have to catch them the moment they're turning around or you need to have fast enough units to catch them afterwards. And if you attacked them from a side, which seems to be another common option, I guess it would turn out differently as well. So many questions requiring a test. :D
@UnfamiliarPlace
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, people do sometimes leave units on patrol rather than standing around if they're focused elsewhere and you can catch them going the other way. But you're right, your units would need to be fast to catch a group patrolling away *and* their units would need to be fast to split away into two easily defeated groups like they do here :p So yeah, the test isn't very representative in that sense...
@wind2dk
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you understand what consistent means, but your knowledge about the game is impressive
@ahbraveconscript997
5 жыл бұрын
how can i use this for my villagers on a wolf nothing map?
@465marko
4 жыл бұрын
what type of sicko makes a wolf nothing map?!?! That's perverse...
@jefffinkbonner9551
4 жыл бұрын
Play as Magyars
@aespa690
5 жыл бұрын
What about archers? Can you do a video showing how to play infantry vs archers, archers vs archers, and archers vs infantry?
@canijo2512
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, it's a great tip. More plz Dave
@shevy9146
5 жыл бұрын
Omg so many years patrolling the wrong way, imma crash my friends with lesser units :D
@caracaes
5 жыл бұрын
I think there should be a stance where units fight in formation. It might not be very useful for competitive player but at least it makes up for good scenic battles. It always bugged me that the formations would all get messed up when ordering an attack. Also, box formation Kamayuks....
@WillyMacShow
5 жыл бұрын
Great tip Dave! But quick question: When will you be coming out with merch that me and my mom can buy?? Looking forward to more videos and dank memes to come with it. hmu if you need anything
@laurino.
4 жыл бұрын
Does this work when you have knights vs spearman? and when you have spearman and the enemy has knights? i had like 5 spearman and my enemy had like 8 knighs and he killed me i couldn't understand why.. he had upgrades and was frank so xD but then i won, i was japanese and i knew japanese win to castle units so i made spearman and japanese castle units to counter everything he had xd
@gibbled0
5 жыл бұрын
I've heard of people using the guard command for ranged units to acquire targets faster. Does anyone know if this works for melee?
@nguyenhuyduc9151
5 жыл бұрын
I think guard is guard, they dont chase enemy
@465marko
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not 100% sure what melee means
@jacforse7642
4 жыл бұрын
465marko opposite of ranged; when a unit has like a sword or a spear and has to come very close to the enemy to attack, not exactly 0 range cause units like the steppe lancer have 1 range but are still melee
@laffycade3151
4 жыл бұрын
I used to dream about deploying my units in such manner But you made it real man! Thanks a lot The fun in aoe2 never dies
@TeTaongaKorora
5 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear: Toploed my TC
@YuenHsiaoTieng
5 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between aggressive and defensive for this? (or for patrol in general?)
@Pronzershrecken
4 жыл бұрын
How do i win all fights with petards tho? :(
@jeffbutterfield8541
5 жыл бұрын
Powerful tactics, wish I knew this back when I still played the game :(
@muhammadazamkhan2221
5 жыл бұрын
START PLAYING AGAIN
@ninjaturtlemaster24
4 жыл бұрын
Yes.....play the 'Definitive edition' just released nov 2019. Its very good
@465marko
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty damn convincing. I will certainly be trying to do this (for a long time before I actually become any good at it, like every other part of this game).
@rbnbadri1
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, can you do another test for enemies that are running away or doing hit-and-run? Basically, I see that my units, whether Eagles or Knights bump into each other repeatedly when chasing fleeing villagers or Archers. This consistently results in fewer hits and hence escape in case of a villager or taking more damage than ideal in case of kiting archers. Staggered formation will be counter-productive because the units will take ages to completely go through a single-wall hole. Thanks.
@jrmilestoneXD
3 жыл бұрын
Does this info still hold up today in Definitive Edition with all of the recent patches? I’ve never heard this!
@blakebeshires4999
5 жыл бұрын
Really great strategy. im very interested to hear of anything else you may have. Thankyou sir. Id like to see this strategy applied to cataphracts and units with trample damage. Or halberdiers with proximity damage.
@christopherlin301
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, does the stand ground patrol method still apply for DE ?
@UnfamiliarPlace
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, it does. Just tested with the same scenario as here. You also have attack move, but it's really janky. Units broke off and chased more often even when on stand ground and it came out more even. And despite that, in one attack move + stand ground scenario they were so intent on getting to the location that I lost the fight. I would stick with stand ground + patrol.
@stinville
5 жыл бұрын
I see why they were using a chess board for the intro video for Age of Empires 2
@iycephoenixx4249
4 жыл бұрын
Zed?.... unless you're from somewhere other than the U.S. or Canada, Zed sounds weird lol, it's just z
@2911sagar
4 жыл бұрын
Zed is basically z. Except America everyone uses it. Zee is weird
@jamesnguyen641
5 жыл бұрын
im amazed. now i dont have to type howdoiturnthison
@StarryxNight5
4 жыл бұрын
Just do torpedo and you can win every fight
@BlueBirdgg
5 жыл бұрын
Patrol with expanded formation (*the 3rd formation)? 10y ago I used this way to kick some asses on infantry only battles.
@mihailkondov4773
5 жыл бұрын
It's only better if the enemy is running from you. You get more contact with the enemy so you deal more damage, but you would also take more damage if they fight back. When your units are tight some of them stack on top of each other and you get higher chance for 2v1s in your favor within the fight. I feel confident I am right, but haven't tested it. You should test it, just in case.
@GorNaKat
5 жыл бұрын
back in starcraft 1 noone uses attack move, even though there is one, and instead everyone uses patrolling into the enemy with a bit of microing, and it looks similar to what is happening here, except in SC units don't go through each other so just patrolling into enemy is the best one.
@NiranjanDaithankar
4 жыл бұрын
These are really nice strategies. But, do enemy units have disciplined formations as you showed? Nonetheless, I'm going to follow your first strategy immediately as it's most remarkable to me.
@Quarker
5 жыл бұрын
How about trying this with the staggered formation? Units are more spread out, more surface area to take the fights, less grouping of units next to each other which lessens idle time. I always use staggered formation for melee battles, and it's worked great for me so far.
@roflswamp6
5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@T-West
5 жыл бұрын
Dave laying down the letter of the law here.
@DicoTheRedstoner
5 жыл бұрын
yes
@fredred8371
5 жыл бұрын
More like "laying down the SPIRIT of the law"
@USAltefore
5 жыл бұрын
Apart from using a mixed unit composition and avoiding bad engagements, what are some ways to respond when an opponent uses the tactics discussed in this video against you?
@califitworkout9211
4 жыл бұрын
THE BEST GAE EVER BUILT!
@BartTheBardOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
15:20 "Stand ground patrol, switch into aggressive stance, definitely is the most consistent and best option for taking - *Thinks "any fight", says:* Infantry engagements" xD
@abcqer555
5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Can you do a part 2 on some of the strategies you mentioned?
@SirLaurenceNZ_2
5 жыл бұрын
Dave teaching us the ways of custom scenario, hallelujah!
@Sriram_Majeti
6 ай бұрын
playing this game for 18 years, and still learning
@brunolimaj7129
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep going! The community is growing bigger and bigger (also definitive edition will blow a fresh wind bringing a lot of new people in the game) and with your efforts you could grow into a major informative channel on AoE. Definetly keep going!
@muroderepolho69
5 жыл бұрын
Very good and simple thank you blesses from Mongolia
@oom-3262
4 жыл бұрын
You mean how to win woth goths rather
@MShepherd88
4 жыл бұрын
So does anything change with the updated pathfinding and attack move in DE? Thanks for the great video!
@jasperchoy7815
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave any video for range units? thanks
@lukkkasz323
3 ай бұрын
It's cool that these aren't just game tricks, but actual real life battle tactics, flying wedge has a similar purpose.
@Gurthcu
5 жыл бұрын
I tried "attack move" on steam HD version and results from "attack move" are much much worse then from "patrol". Do you know explanation? PS I used champions instead of eagle warriors.
@souheilallegue2342
5 жыл бұрын
attack move gets bugged sometimes, better just use patrol in HD too
@mynameizmaineimis1880
5 жыл бұрын
Some of the better players suggest using the staggered formation on a melee engage. Does it change your results when compared to the line formation? Also, the way patrolling units ignore each others' collision boxes gave me an idea: what if you set the units on no attack stance at first, and patrol in such a way that they start to turn around and stack on top of each other exactly inside the enemy troops? Does it mean that they do multiple the amount of damage per attack surface? I'll try this out.
@daveaoe
5 жыл бұрын
Staggered is great depending on how your enemy is deployed. If they have a bunch of archers and you are charging in with infantry or cavalry, staggered spreads your units out early so they spend less time running around the enemy formation and more time attacking. When in doubt, go staggered into fights since it's usually very consistent. No attack stance can be useful if you are patrolling towards an enemy over farms or near buildings your units might attack, but it's not so good in a fight like the one in this video since most of the advantage I'm gaining is through the first couple units I kill upon entry.
@guswong7067
5 жыл бұрын
awesome vid. my standard was to patrol aggro on staggered formation. Does staggered form make any difference? Its defs better than the standard line formation patrol
@califitworkout9211
4 жыл бұрын
This game is soo fucking crazy deep, been playing it since so many years and still couldn't learn even half of it lol
@hamishrobertson6997
2 жыл бұрын
Yo Dave - is this the way for DE to?
@spicytranslations9604
4 жыл бұрын
How are you not American with that accent?? Don't Canadians say it like that too?
@euronymous_
5 жыл бұрын
is this trick apply to pikeman against cavalry or champ against other champ? i said it cause the eagle is a faster unit
@fafofafin
5 жыл бұрын
This was my thought exactly, this looks more like a cavalry strategy. Infantry is so slow that while you're walking into the enemy belly you're getting hit many more times than the eagles would.
@bensmith426
5 жыл бұрын
3:00 Rommans tryed that under cannae, but in life it did not played out that perfectly :P
@samapple5390
5 жыл бұрын
This is actually super helpful
@Crawsack
4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say even with DE out, this is a great video! Love your stuff Dave.
@vengai1337
5 жыл бұрын
doesnt this mean...there is a lot of random staff going on? i mean f.e. the Differenz between surviving with 11 and losing with -6 is way to fucking high isnt it? :X
@comprenpizzajaja8771
4 жыл бұрын
But it works just for fast units, or for all, Will be better you explain it with champions not with the faster unit, for example with knights of the teutón order Will work or Will be works use hold teerain?
@Ryoushi_Akanagi
Жыл бұрын
Totally late, but do you know how Kingstone did micro trick with his knights in redbull to kill the enemy archers without getting silly pathfinding?
@9m2fBtjL
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@Nadie-mb4vw
5 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, thanks Dave
@mindfultennis944
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks forn the Video😊
@devilhearts007
Жыл бұрын
Does this works on DE in 2022 ?
@Progeusz
5 жыл бұрын
The god incarnate. Lots of love Dave, keep being awesome.
@jamesgreenway3088
Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping the drop of Xbox will boost your views on this video - the early bird gets the worm 🐛💰
@mryes413
4 жыл бұрын
Both you and the AI are playing as the Britons will this have a different affect when playing with a different civilization and different units?
@Systemthreefive
4 жыл бұрын
Sad this doesn't work for me on CBA... Constant lag just doesn't let you patrol properly...
@ggfdd5925
4 жыл бұрын
I played this so much as a kid in single player. You never hear of those things and don't get better. Such a waste
@artbrare
3 жыл бұрын
does this still work in DE?
@YuhuanXie
4 жыл бұрын
Is this still relevant in DE?
@lucrainville7095
Жыл бұрын
Damn, I didn't knew that the angle changed something. Thanks a lot. I will implement this in my games.
@fidrewe99
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I did not have an idea you could get that big of an advantage just by timing commands.
@JonathanHinman
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you these tips and tricks apply to my whole life!
@chuckmaddox6725
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Does anyone know if this holds up for AOE2 DE?
@jcpkill1175
4 жыл бұрын
Does this still apply to DE or is pathinfinding so horrible that this dosent work anymore.
@hi7hi7hi7hi7hi7
4 жыл бұрын
how about attack move?
@megastoejoe
5 жыл бұрын
Ah google finally sent me to your channel via notification.
@RusskiBlusski
5 жыл бұрын
Gonna go practice the shit out of this now. I'm comming for you Viper!
@giancarloandrebravoabanto7091
3 жыл бұрын
plot twist, red has no armor and blue has full armor. he wanted to be the ultimate killer
@ET_AYY_LMAO
4 жыл бұрын
Good advice, you should have more subs. Take one from me :-)
@nixxblikka
3 жыл бұрын
So when exactly do you change from stand ground to aggressive?
@nastrimarcello
4 жыл бұрын
Positioning yourself to flank and to create numerical advantage. Got it
@rickychardzz
5 жыл бұрын
Dave ???? What happened to vicious marauder ???
@ElxlceLX
4 жыл бұрын
Great information. Can you update for DE and with archer battles? I am getting back into CS type maps and this information is very useful and helpful. Thank you
@brujua7
5 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks a lot.
@teemu3370
5 жыл бұрын
Dave has an YT account? Oh my, hear that sexy canadian accent, eh. What I do not understand, is why T90 fired Dave for 100 bucks
@SomaCoyote-z8l
26 күн бұрын
I konw it's 5 years old, but thank you for this!
@level1life79
3 жыл бұрын
This tip is so valuable, I was always wondering why I didn't win battles easily lol
@IamLastRights
3 жыл бұрын
So counterintuitive for me to put troops on non attack stance. Amazing
@isheanmmo9357
4 жыл бұрын
is patrolling on defensive just as bad as patrolling on aggressive stance
@NunyaBusiness-td1kt
4 ай бұрын
Come on Dan
@9051team
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone Else just sering a Black SCREEN?
@xRnChrisx
4 жыл бұрын
So, could this be used to counter Steppe Lancers, with pointy bois for example?
@abhijitrashinkar
4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Friend I appreciate your efforts, many thanks for this trick.
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