All you need to do is place the bridge over the holes and then use longer screws for the saddles so the intonation would still be correct. Much simpler solution overall. Cheers!
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right and I actually thought about that but for some reason I chose this crazy solution. Can’t really remember why 🙄. Maybe because that wasn’t how Andy Summers original looked. No long screws. Should I do it again I think I going with your advice 😉👍 Anyway… thanks so much for the great input and for checking out the video. 😃🙏🏻
@jchavins
11 ай бұрын
@@MichaelLagerstedt or you could have just used the Fender 6 saddle vintage replacement bridge....Fender makes it in chrome but Gotoh makes both gold and chrome.....
@howardmaryon
7 ай бұрын
Would the cutout for the bridge pickup then be wrong?
@plingploing9308
6 ай бұрын
@@howardmaryon yes
@BlueOceanBelow
4 ай бұрын
I was about to replace my ashtray bridge with a modern bridge, but knew the measurements didn't look quite right. Glad I found this video first.
@MichaelLagerstedt
4 ай бұрын
I’m so glad it was useful. I didn’t know this myself and couldn’t really find videos about it. Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment 🙏🏻😃
@ELIAHOficial
8 ай бұрын
Thanks man, you sacrificed a lot to save a lot of people from making a big mistake.
@MichaelLagerstedt
8 ай бұрын
Thanks… and thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment 😃🙏🏻
@spokes28
2 жыл бұрын
You have amazing ingenuity, I enjoy your videos very much! I too am building a Tele and am trying to fit a short bridge because I chiseled out for a bridge humbucker. Always trying to learn-thank you.
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for a nice comment and thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻. Really appreciate it 👍😉
@lorencing
Жыл бұрын
I think I had the same issue when replacing my 3 saddle with a modern 6 saddle bridge. What I did in the end is use longer screws and I got it as it was supposed to be, the same string length . So I used the original mounting holes but the new Gotoh bridge is moved by some 10mm back and I countered that by using longer screws.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hi Goran Yes that is a great solution to the problem I think. A few others have suggested that as well. I went the long way 🙄. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 😃🙏🏻
@alfatone2654
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant solution. I've swapped a few Tele Bridges and ended up drilling holes in the plates. Next time I'm going fishing too.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - Yes it works pretty good. It’s hard to get used strings through though. Works best with new straight strings 😉👍 Thanks so much for watching 👍😃
@DaVinci0963
9 ай бұрын
I'm in Mike. Glad I found your show. Thanks!
@MichaelLagerstedt
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching 😉🙏🏻
@janjt478
2 жыл бұрын
Neat solution to the problem! Looking forward to seeing the finished product!
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jan… me too 😅 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@zackbaron2777
Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew about this sooner. Such a great idea.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Zack, and thanks for watching and taking time to comment 😃🙏🏻
@hussamjamil4980
6 ай бұрын
I have a modern bridge laying around, installed on my thinline is a "classic" bridge. Problem for me is not the string through holes, it is as you mentioned in the video, the modern bridge sits further back. The saddles on the modern bridge is around 8-10mm further back. I would need M3x40mm philips screws and matching springs to make it work.
@MichaelLagerstedt
6 ай бұрын
Hey Hussam, you are right, that’s a possible solution. Other comments have pointed to that but there was also a comment arguing that the longer screws isn’t a good idea. Check out the other comments on that. I’m not sure 🤔 Thanks so much for watching 👍🙏🏻😃
@ZachariahJ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this Michael. I'm not looking to change the bridge on my Harley Benton Tele, but I've been trying to find out why the bridge is just over 10cm long, but most Tele bridges I see are much shorter - 8.6cm, as in your example. It's only relevant to me because at one point I was thinking about putting in a Bigsby, which would mean getting the shorter bridge. I won't be doing that now, because it will increase the string length, and I like the guitar nice and twangy! I'd still be interested to know just why there are two bridge lengths. My personal theory is that the longer bridge gives more area to transmit string vibrations to the body. That's why I want to keep it. But if my theory was true, ALL Teles would have the longer bridge, so there must be another reason. Thanks again for this interesting video!
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching Zachariah. I would love to know more about the history/development of the tele bridge as well. Part of the fun of building guitars is to try stuff out though and find crazy solutions. 👍😃
@juanfabremiranda8910
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for share your experience. Longer screws for modern saddles are simpler solution.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Juan, you are right but I didn’t really feel for that solution 😉👍. Had to do it the hard way 🙄. Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
@MrAimMDMA
Жыл бұрын
If I'm looking to swap from a vintage to a modern I just have to get longer screws?
@leiferickson3183
2 жыл бұрын
You can buy Teflon tubing for electrical insulation in a number of sizes. It is hard to kink it and it would benefit from its slippery surface.
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Leif - thanks so much for the tip 😃👍
@donaldficzere9327
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant solution!
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Donald and thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
@kenthurback2870
4 ай бұрын
What if I’m using the baritone telecaster? Is it really the biggest deal ever if my already longer scale length is a little longer?
@MichaelLagerstedt
4 ай бұрын
Hi Kent, I don’t have experience with baritone guitars and haven’t researched it but when it comes to scale length it has to be pretty precise. The length of a string has to correspond exactly with the placement of the frets on the fretboard so a few millimetres too long or too short makes the instrument impossible to tune so it’s in tune all over the fretboard. Thanks so much for watching and good luck with your project 😉👍
@slimfattys7523
25 күн бұрын
Sir, I got a question to ask So if I replace the modern one to vintage, will it be any problem?
@MichaelLagerstedt
25 күн бұрын
Yes I think that can course some problems 😅… unfortunately
@tommiejohn2177
5 ай бұрын
What bridge is that? It looks very nice.
@MichaelLagerstedt
5 ай бұрын
www.thomann.de/gb/abm_custom_shop_tb_1hr_brass_relic.htm Thanks for watching Tommie 😉🙏🏻
@roderickgful
Жыл бұрын
What is that tuner? Just lays on the guitar, battery powered? Handy! I have an old Peterson strobe, works fine but always looking & curious! Thanks!
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Oh .. the tuner is just my iPhone laying flat on the guitar and the app is PanoTuner. Works fine and it’s free 😉👍 I saw Chris from High-line Guitars do it like this so if it works for him it will work for me too
@roderickgful
Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelLagerstedt 🤣🤣
@dennisfrank1974
Жыл бұрын
I think you just need longer screws for the abm, I think the gotoh would work, and the wilkinson you showed is the wrong kind, but they do make one that works.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis, thank you for the good input and for watching 😃🙏🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@TheArtofBlues
Жыл бұрын
Do they make modern bridges that line up with the vintage holes? If so which company?
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
To be honest I’m not sure. Sorry. But a few viewers suggested just to get longer saddle screws for a much easier solution 😉 By the way thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
@wjewell63
6 ай бұрын
I used dowels to plug only the top .,then redrill at an angle which worked perfect for me....👍
@MichaelLagerstedt
6 ай бұрын
Great tip… well done Thanks for sharing 😃🙏🏻
@plingploing9308
6 ай бұрын
I encountered the same problem. Take a thicker drill bit and drill holes from the top just deep and wide enough to create a connection. Nobody sees the holes on the top.
@MichaelLagerstedt
6 ай бұрын
That’s a great solution… thanks for sharing that 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😃 and thanks so much for watching 😉🙏🏻
@KGB007AGENT
5 ай бұрын
what pickup did you use on the bridge?
@MichaelLagerstedt
5 ай бұрын
guitaranatomy.com/product/fuzzy-duck-gold-series-telecaster-single-coil-pickups-neck-bridge-or-set/ The bridge pu from this set. Remember 10% off with the discount code LagerstedtYT 🙏🏻😉 Thanks for watching
@oldasrocks9121
Жыл бұрын
It can be tricky going the other way too, from factory modern to OG. And, AND dont get me started on the Squier bridge, ugh!
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s definitely not one fits all - but off course if you build the body from scratch you don’t have that problem Thanks so much for watching and commenting 😃🙏🏻
@lone-wolf-1
8 ай бұрын
I think on the modern bridge the actual difference is the pickup placement. It is placed more towards the middle, wich results in a warmer, fuller sound. For the modern individual saddles the string thru holes have to be placed more towards the neck because how the little saddles are constructed. Not enough room under them. Over the cylindrical two-strings-per-saddle, there is more space towards the back for the holes. So, you did the correct thing to take the scale length as the main reference. Longer Intonation screws would result in a double bend of the strings on the individual saddles. Also the sound effect of the bridge pickup placed more towards the middle would have been deleted. On my kit build tele (heavy modified), there were no holes for string thru, and I wanted a PRS type bridge (I didn‘t liked the big metal plate). Because I think a 90 degree angle on carbon steel made strings is not a good thing, I decided to drill the holes at a 60 degree angle from the top meeting holes drilled perpendicular from the back. Had the same problem with the restringing, but I use a piece of an old A string with a hook bend at the end to pull the new strings thru from the top. Works fine. Cheers! I like your builds! Keep going! Grüße aus Deutschland!
@MichaelLagerstedt
8 ай бұрын
Hi, Great comment. You point out some interesting things. Hope others read this. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment 😃🙏🏻
@AlanKaruzo
9 ай бұрын
very good.... but in the situation like ttha you can just use a toploader bridge...
@MichaelLagerstedt
9 ай бұрын
Hi Alan. You are right but in my case I wanted to get as close as possible to the Andy Summers Tele so I decided on this crazy solution 🙄 Hey thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
@AlanKaruzo
9 ай бұрын
@@MichaelLagerstedt yes, agree, your work is inelegant and precise, I have great respect for such decisions. thank you for the video!
@guthriesiwinski2849
Жыл бұрын
where can I find the grommet Eyelets that you put on the other side of the wholes?
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hi Guthrie, I think you are maybe referring to the string ferrules. You can just Google that and find the type you like. I got mine from GuitarAnatomy.com guitaranatomy.com/product/through-body-string-ferrules-for-telecaster-and-stratocaster/ Remember the 10% discount code: LAGERSTEDT10
@hyunnizle
8 ай бұрын
what is the measurement from the nut to the bridge suppose to be?
@MichaelLagerstedt
8 ай бұрын
That’s what you call the scale length and on a tele and strat it’s 25,5 inches from the nut to the point where the string leaves the saddle of the bridge. But each string length needs to be fine tuned. Mostly they need to be longer. Hope that helps. I explain it also in some of my videos Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
@jazzdrumguy5044
7 ай бұрын
Interesting build. Very sloppy workmanship, though. I refinish drums and guitars and this would not be acceptable for a customer. Glad you salvaged it and I admire your enthusiasm (I love Andy's playing!), but why do strings without the electronics?
@MichaelLagerstedt
6 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏🏻😃
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
If you want to build a boost into a Telecaster like this you can get started with the FREE Step by Step Wiring Diagram and the Routing Templates right here: content.lagerstedt.dk/as-bundle AND ... The 10% Discount code for guitar parts from guitar anatomy.com has changed to: LagerstedtYT Thanks for watching 🙏🏻😃
@ninjaassasin1983
Жыл бұрын
Can i switch from a top loader with the 3 barrel saddles to a 6 roller saddle top loader with the same dimensions
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s hard to answer. There are no rules to how different brands construct their products. Just make sure that the distance from the nut to the saddles is 648 mm when the saddles are in about the middle position. Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
@Sheldyck
Жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be simpler to just drill a set of holes through the new bridge using the old one as a template?
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Interesting suggestion… 🤔 I guess that could work… but you would still need to route the cavity for the bridge pickup for it to fit Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
@7892231
2 жыл бұрын
Nice fix 👏👏👏
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
😃👍🙏🏻
@ScottPC
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving me hassle!!!!
@MichaelLagerstedt
7 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m here for 😉 Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
@luivchris
Жыл бұрын
Hej Michael. Hvor køber du træ til dine guitarer fra?
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hej Lucas, købt hos Genbyg.dk 😉👍.
@leiferickson3183
2 жыл бұрын
I find the more disturbing thing (Besides the fact that someone thought that is was ok to just move the string through holes and still associate the bridge with a tele) is that the placement of the pickup is different by a LOT with respect to the scale length which should make an enormous difference in the sound of the pickup. This reminds me of the wide variety in les paul JR dogear pickup placement with reference to the bridge.
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Leif, Yes you are right it affects the placement of the bridge pickup. I had to enlarge the cavity to make it work. I would really love to see somebody make the history of the tele bridge video. 😃👍🙏🏻
@lorencing
Жыл бұрын
I think that 5-10mm does not affect the tone too much. If it were 20-30mm yes, but 5-10, think not.
@roderickbalt8993
8 ай бұрын
@@lorencing It's all relative, that difference can add up to quite a bit of extra string tension for certain people. Tighter string angle, tighter sound. For the pickup it's not that much, but still depending on the person it can matter.
@lorencing
8 ай бұрын
@@roderickbalt8993 true, it is all relative and it all depends on what sound you are going for. I prefer unique or different rather than going for the sounds I've heard many times. Still, a good question, why is the Gotoh bridge placement that different?
@roderickbalt8993
8 ай бұрын
@@lorencing I'm not sure it's because of Gotoh but Fender as far as I know changed the string hole placement when going to 6 saddle bridges. So now you have vintage and modern string through holes. Why? Who knows presumably this just worked better for fender to place the holes further. A lot of variances like this exist that to certain people really make a difference. We as guitar players tend to not pay attention to what goes on after the bridge and nut😄.
@MrPhipsi74
Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, you could have saved a bunch of time by just using the Gotoh GTC 202 bridge. It's designed to retrofit a vintage-style bridge and has six saddles. It's not as cheap as some Tele bridges ($105 in the US), but it would have saved hours of time.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for a great comment. It’s really helpful. When I went for the brass bridge I didn’t know that the string through holes wouldn’t fit. Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
@Fikser11
Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to buy GTC 201 - I see those have the same dimensions, although 202 is steel and 201 is brass, should I get 202 or 201? I'd like to replace my vintage one
@mark006868
8 ай бұрын
Michael Lagerstedt...Drilling from the new string thru hole location, at the proper angle, to the string ferrule on the back of the body would have been the right way to do it...Using hot glue and plastic tubes is such a reckneck way of doing it...not to mention that the string tension will cut into the tubes over time...causing a whole new set of issues...
@MichaelLagerstedt
8 ай бұрын
🤣… what a great komment … you are right … what a redneck move 😂… I love it. Hey thanks so much for watching man… and for a fine comment 🙏🏻😃
@roderickbalt8993
8 ай бұрын
Great stuff, and creative solution. This stuff sucks but you learn a lot about guitars and how sometimes the devil is in the details!
@MichaelLagerstedt
8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot… and thanks so much for watching and for your comment 🙏🏻😃
@johnr7303
2 жыл бұрын
Great fix
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 😅👍
@Davidxia0
Ай бұрын
nice garden
@MichaelLagerstedt
Ай бұрын
I’ll be sure to tell my wife 😉👍. It’s all her. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻😃
@jonmatthews4254
Жыл бұрын
Err basic check, thats why they have technical drawings with the bridge info.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Right you are Jon.😉 Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
@mattrogers1946
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@TChou-zn4yd
10 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir!!!
@MichaelLagerstedt
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😉🙏🏻
@2dazetake
Жыл бұрын
I always played my top loaded Tele, then I got a string through, and I didn't like it at all, the strings feel all tight and I find it doesn't do anything for the sustain, string thru adds so much unnecessary downwards pull, at such an angle,that it made the strings feel unbendable, I like my teles to have a slinky feel to them, and I'm not a fan of string thru, they are a pain in the arse to string up, especially if you are using your old set of strings, getting the strings thru the ferrule, without these tubes is a fight, great invention but I would have just went with a top loader myself.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for great input. I have never thought about it that way. It would definitely be a much more simple solution. 😅 Thanks so much for watching. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙏🏻😃
@johnnymouse886
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@MichaelLagerstedt
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻😃
@leondantas
3 ай бұрын
drill 6 new holes on bridge plate would be much easier
@MichaelLagerstedt
3 ай бұрын
😉👍 Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻
@nohillforahighstepper
6 ай бұрын
You could have just drilled holes in the back of the ashtray to accept the modern saddles, instead of destroying your guitar.........
@MichaelLagerstedt
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input for watching 👍
@aahl1680
Жыл бұрын
OMG😢😢😢😢
@chippsterstephens6800
Ай бұрын
Why? Do you actually have a real issue with a vintage bridge? Or do not know how to intonate one? Or is it that you just believe by faith alone “modern” is better somehow? Rare is the tele that will not intonate with a vintage ashtray bridge.
@MichaelLagerstedt
Ай бұрын
No … I was building a Andy Summers Tele and trying to get as close as I could to his tele. Well it has an all brass moden bridge so that was what I was going for. The vintage bridge is great but AS had that changed so I went for that. Hey thanks for watching 😉🙏🏻
@Bendog300
Жыл бұрын
why cant they just put ashtrays on all teles we dont want strat style bridges!
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mat. Seems some people want to have it all 😂 Thanks so much for watching 😃🙏🏻
@mattrogers1946
Жыл бұрын
Measure twice, cut (or drill) once...🤢
@MichaelLagerstedt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Matt 😉🙏🏻
@larsfocken3456
3 ай бұрын
I don’t like the modern Tele bridges at all.
@MichaelLagerstedt
3 ай бұрын
Hey , thanks for watching Lars 😃🙏🏻
@larsfocken3456
3 ай бұрын
@@MichaelLagerstedt I mean there’s a reason why they are using the modern bridges for decades now. So they work well and many people prefer them. Personally I think that I like the vintage oriented stuff more. Like the Vinteras for instance. Thank you for your video. 👍🏻
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