This is just terrific! I'm a DIYer and it is invaluable to see exactly how a conscientious pro goes about things on a real job, to have his clear discussion as he goes along, and to learn more and more about potential hazards. While the purpose of the code is to keep things safe, I definitely want to combine compliance with code with a real-world awareness of pitfalls. Thanks, Joel!
@AndrewVee08
2 жыл бұрын
Love it it's like the bob Ross of Electrical work
@bonemanmcjames2953
2 жыл бұрын
Except with electricity there are no "happy accidents".
@banjotramp1
Жыл бұрын
Love the comment about your approach to working with inspectors,. I'm a very experienced DIY-er, but not a trained electrician. I think I know what I am doing, but if my work can't pass inspection, I want to know it before I burn my house down. I want another pair of eyes on my work..This stuff is dangerous, and I have no desire to burn my house to the ground. All the inspectors I've worked with over the years have been knowledgeable and helpful. And as a homeowner, I want my work legal. I can go out and say add a car charger w/o a permit, but when there is a problem, I imagine my insurance company is going to give me a very very hard time with a claim when the fire is caused by my un permitted work.
@charlesjohnson6073
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Joel. Just wanted to let you know I'm an electrician from your neck of the woods. I live in Martinsville and do a lot of work in Indy and Franklin. I just recently came across one of your videos and learned where you were from. I really enjoy your content and get a lot of useful information. Thank you for what you put out there and I hope to be as knowledgeable as you one day.
@matt24fc
2 жыл бұрын
Man. I used to live up in fort Wayne. I'm not an electrician, but I have been a solar installer for 5 years, and do all the electrical to the meter, including service panel upgrades, meter box swaps, etc. If I'm unsure on anything at all, I have a master electrician that teaches/ensures. This is Florisa. All that electrical work actually counts towards my 4 years of electrical experience, and technically I can use it towards my journeyman lisence. However, I'm not going to. I have geard in a previous video that it would take at minimum a 4th year apprentice for you to trust them to work in a msp. Anyway, I do plan to find an electrician in resi to apprentice for, because I'm not comfortable in a new build setting. As I learn nec, I do realize that some of that will come to me, however, I don't think I would be comfortable walking onto a new build as a journeyman and actually know what needs to be done at this time. I am similar to you in my work ethic, attention to detail, and ocd?? As far as my workmanship and following code. Definitely not perfect but thats where inspectors can teach you things. Love your work. Id seek you out for employment if I still lived in Indiana.
@rlvtrader
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Super thumbs up for the spark @12:41 showing the dangers of this work. I also love hearing about your dealings with inspectors. It lets me know as a DYI'er that I should do everything in my power to avoid dealing with inspectors unless super necessary.
@matthewnuhfer6851
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Can't express enough how much i appreciate your videos(as a third year apprentice)for educational, entertainment, AND inspirational purposes. Keep up the great work jefferson electric!!
@OldManse09
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ride-along. I learn something every time I do.
@sergeyvasilyevjr2644
4 ай бұрын
I just had a nailed box and it’s was pretty new; people do crazy things
@kevinstelmach5594
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these tag along videos. Great for a guy just getting his toes wet in trade. Thanks!
@verticalaccessprofessional4656
5 ай бұрын
I came to watch him install the junction box, I left with a full business course. Well done, sir.
@ElectricProAcademy
5 ай бұрын
This is exactly the effect we hope to have on the trades! Many thanks for the encouragement!
@nathanlothamer4570
8 ай бұрын
The worst thing about running cable through old joists is those things will eventually need to be sistered or replaced. That is one distinct advantage to conduit.
@handles_are_dumb_01
Жыл бұрын
It seems insane to me that exposed romex is considered extremely dangerous, but it's still considered acceptable in many areas for essentially unfused unprotected SEU cable to be stapled to the side of the house.
@ThisMissK
Жыл бұрын
😉 ThisMiss knows good work! Also appreciate a clean space 🤙
@thatguy9045
2 жыл бұрын
Man i wish you were my foreman when I was an apprentice. You seem way too nice to be an electrician lol good video 👍🏻
@Daltoncom
2 жыл бұрын
Deep 1900 boxes with wall bracket on the side of the joist make nicer Jboxes than reusing whatever was there.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. More room, and much more functional for cable entrances, too.
@flyingjeff1984
2 жыл бұрын
Now in Tennessee, if you touch one wired smoke detector, the whole house has to be brought up to code. Found that out when I wanted to add a smoke detector to my alarm system.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
That sure sound sane. (not)
@16BitDoggo
Жыл бұрын
Oh nice
@robertapreston4200
Жыл бұрын
Did you ground to the box? Didn't appears so?
@apackwestbound5946
Жыл бұрын
Give a shout out to your camera man/woman. Great running commentary. Thank you!
@coopertracy6581
2 күн бұрын
Why not do running boards for the romex across the joists? Yes it is allowed to put it through the holes in the joist, but it could still be subject to damage. If someone is trying to hang something on the wire can still do so with the wire in the holes in the joists. Running boards protect the cable better in this case
@ElectricProAcademy
Күн бұрын
Could be a material and labor cost consideration and/or an aesthetic consideration. You could educate your homeowners if you're worried about them hanging stuff on there?
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
11:33 Makes me wonder if the inspector saw those tubes being used and thought you guys missed some
@SuperNoticer
Жыл бұрын
I just roll without permits. Eliminate the problem at its source
@Neil-ym8vy
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I've never heard of an inspector acting like that either on residential or commercial jobs. Probably just that inspector is just out to make waves.
@illestofdemall13
2 жыл бұрын
You should brush up on how breakers clear. Fault current doesn't dissipate into the earth. The fault current travels back to transformer through the neutral which completes the circuit. Since there is almost no resistance due to dead short, there is a high current draw which causes the breaker to trip. The fault current doesn't dissipate. The breaker kills the power in order to make it safe.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that would perhaps dissipate into the earth is a lightning strike.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
23:52 Why not a 4sq box? To me, that _is_ a junction box. And with 4 entering cables (and who knows what else in the future), the extra space is nice.
@warrenmichael918
Жыл бұрын
I was also wondering why he didnt ground that box as well.
@ranger178
Жыл бұрын
I like end nippers for pulling staples they are easy to just rock against the beams. how far do they want wires from gas lines? we have some wires run down the main I beam of the house apparently they used it as a wire running chase I can't seem to figure out if that is legal or not
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
31:04 I still think EMT looks the nicest around joists. Especially in situations like that.
@GrenPara
Жыл бұрын
I know this video is older but why do you not use WAGO or Lever Connectors? You would not have to worry about wires breaking which shortens the lines.
@jaychung6293
2 жыл бұрын
Do you get rid of all knob and tubes or just the visible ones? How crazy is it to remove all knob and tube wiring throughout the home?
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
As he said in the video, it isn't necessary to remove the knobs or tubes. (They can often be a pain to remove, too.) You just have to remove the wiring. It can be kinda crazy depending on the age and size of the structure.
@Yeakerr
6 ай бұрын
If romex is nailed on the bottom of joist and no inspector sees it is it still wrong .kind of like the forest saying 😅
@keithhastings4092
2 жыл бұрын
Did you run Romex over the ducting? I saw two that went under it, but it looks like one or two went up and over…
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
I think that one I noticed was pre-existing.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
1:24 Not only is it illegal to put the NM below the joists like that, there also has to be something behind it.
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
I get rid of metal j-boxes like those anytime I can. Is that 4-0 box over filled?
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy 😀
@donl1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy I'm not trying to be an ass or anything. Just trying to keep the amateurs out there correctly informed. You do a good job with your videos, unlike so many KZitemrs presenting wrong information.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
Seems to me that metal boxes are ideal in that situation. They're the most durable. 26:41 How deep do you think that 4O box is? It doesn't look 2⅛ deep to me, so seven 14 AWG conductors would be its max according to _314.16(A)._ Oops.
@robertapreston4200
Жыл бұрын
No wire clamps or grommets? Looks like a 1900 deep which is fine WO internal clamps. I am learning with everyone else, and sometimes talking while working can be detrimental. LOVE YOUR STUFF, but, as a journey man, gotta watch my workers😉 Right coach? Boss... got your back... I'll fix it for you, go home to your family😊💯✌️
@BumbleBeeTF
Жыл бұрын
If they didn't want to drill holes through joist could they have surface mounted on the joist in conduit? My old house was built with undersized joist.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Conduit (EMT) also looks nicer, IMO. But it takes a lot more time, of course.
@BumbleBeeTF
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj thank you for responding sir. Keep up the great videos.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
@@BumbleBeeTF Thanks, but I am not the associated with the channel so I do not make these videos. I'm just a regular guy that enjoys talking (and doing) electrical.
@BumbleBeeTF
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj 👍 I still appreciate it. Thank you.
@goofybeer1
Жыл бұрын
What do you think WAGOs?
@DrD6452
2 жыл бұрын
Leave the job site cleaner than when you arrived even if you have to tidy up other people's messy crappy looking work. You look better for it.
@kkalafus
2 жыл бұрын
My house has an ethernet cable running through a conduit next to Romex for about 20 feet from the basement to the finished attic. Surprisingly the ethernet works fine. I wonder if the interference concerns are overstated. It's unshielded cable (Cat5) working at gigabit speed
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
What kind of conduit? Metal conduit (especially if it's grounded) can act like a shield. Interference concerns are not overstated, but interference can present as slower than maximum speed, too. It really depends on the situation. The concern for interference is magnetic fields. When electricity runs through a wire, it creates a magnetic field around the wire. The reverse is true, too... power plant generators work by spinning big magnets near large coils of wire. Magnetic fields themselves don't cause problems. But, alternating current which runs in your home changes polarity 60 times a second. The building-of and collapsing-of those magnetic fields are what can induce currents in nearby wires. This is also how a power transformer works. Of course, a transformer is designed to amplify this effect. Space is the biggest mitigating factor, because most lower-power magnetic fields do not effect a large volume outside of the conductor. A gap of a few inches, if feasible, is better than nothing. Don't run your ethernet alongside your service entrance cable, though. :D
@a.g8517
9 ай бұрын
super
@ranger178
Жыл бұрын
why not put the electrical box on side of beam since you could eliminate one head knocking hazard? you should get the movie theater dustpan and brush set so you can sweep up mess standing instead of crawling around with dustpan and foxtail
@gidgetcarter2396
Жыл бұрын
You're great! Are you located in PA?
@csbarbourv
Жыл бұрын
Didn't you place that new junction box and the wires right next to the gas line?
@csbarbourv
Жыл бұрын
Also, I thought you said you were going to ground that box but you didn't mention it when you were re-wiring it.
@timflory4767
2 жыл бұрын
Did u ground that metal box ?
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
I think I saw a 5th bare wire in there.
@warrenmichael918
Жыл бұрын
@@jovetj In the new square one there was but im not sure there was on the smaller one before it.
@jcwoodshop
6 ай бұрын
i believe your correct@@warrenmichael918
@thomasschibilio4132
9 ай бұрын
Question you can leave box below joist and not tuck between?
@munsters2
Жыл бұрын
I didn't see any smoke detectors get installed.
@catblue6393
2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@nickb5441
2 жыл бұрын
What kind of tic tracer was that?
@billmonroe8826
2 жыл бұрын
Inspectors can be real pricks!
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
"Little Napoleons"
@moez2388
2 жыл бұрын
You said it yourself the box was not a part of the grounding system, after your hands it remains that way. A bag of grounding screws is $15 and that would take a long time to lose them all. "What we do is important so we double and triple check everything" how ironic of you to pull out a fluke after that? I clearly counted there are a total of 4 bare copper from all the Romex in that first box without a pigtail and I doubt you grounded bounded the second box by your demonstration.
@jovetj
Жыл бұрын
25:48 Yep, I thought I counted 5 bares, but you're right. Only 4. And the box is overfilled. Octagon boxes don't make for very good jct boxes, IMO.
@denverbraughler3948
2 жыл бұрын
Who still twists conductors together? There is no reason.
@denverbraughler3948
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy: It’s a terrible practice. It ruins the wires and they can’t be reused when there’s a change order. It’s for amateurs who don’t know how to use the correct size and technique for a listed pressure connector.
@HoosierRallyMaster
2 жыл бұрын
@@denverbraughler3948 Gee Denver! I bet you have a thing or two to say about WAGOs :)
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