Owning a sprinter is a great way to learn how to deal with rust 😂
@scotthill1600
Жыл бұрын
Why is that? Sorry I don’t know much ab sprinter vans
@procatprocat9647
Жыл бұрын
@@scotthill1600 sprinters are rust buckets. Just look at any van on the road. If it's rusty, it's most likely a sprinter.
@Finnspin_unicycles
Жыл бұрын
@@scotthill1600 Mercedes decided that commercial vehicles like that typically don't have a long lifespan with their first owner anyway and cheaped out on galvanizing and paint. At least in the first generation, that's why they rust much more than most cars from that era.
@Matt-uq3in
Жыл бұрын
You can watch one rust 😂😂
@procatprocat9647
Жыл бұрын
@@Finnspin_unicycles they rust much quicker than most other types of vans, not just cars.
@christophersines8238
Жыл бұрын
Using wide tape and peeling it back ever so slightly every coat is low-key genius. I will definitely use this.
@nannesoar
Жыл бұрын
4 real that sounds unfathomably easier than fixing it afterwards👍
@taylormullis4942
Жыл бұрын
Lol the line is just no longer straight but definately still there
@blainedavis8206
Жыл бұрын
@@taylormullis4942 What he did is called back taping, just about every good body shop does it, it just makes it a lot easier to blend in your primer, makes less sanding to get rid of the line
@DevArt59
Жыл бұрын
Or better yet; stay off the edge
@darianistead2239
Жыл бұрын
@@blainedavis8206soft edging, you can get rolls of tube foam with adhesive for door jams to soft edge overspray in gaps too.
@ethanreddekopp7256
Жыл бұрын
DO NOT WET SAND BODY FILLER!! It is extremely porous and will hold on to water if it gets wet which can cause adhesion problems down the road and even cause the rust to come back.
@josephking6515
Жыл бұрын
*Thank you,* I did not know that. I appreciate the information and subsequent education. You sir have a fantastic day, week, month, year *and* the rest of you life. 👍
@thehighwayman78
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking primer before filler maybe?
@ethanreddekopp7256
Жыл бұрын
@@thehighwayman78 no, filler always goes directly on metal. Ideally you don't even want any of the old finish under your filler. Sand away the old finish, get your body work as close to perfect as possible, then apply filler. You want the body work to be within an eighth of an inch before applying putty. Then you prime your repair
@DuanLeadingham
Жыл бұрын
@@thehighwayman78put etch primer on first then fill as otherwise youre not protecting the metal in the slightest. But definitely avoid spraying water on the filler 400/800 grit evenly tends to be high enough to paint over and not see the grit marks underneath
@BARELD050
Жыл бұрын
@@thehighwayman78 epoxy etch primer
@xxn0cturn3xx
Жыл бұрын
Bro used the rust converter just to sand it off 💀💀 These tiktokers are out of control
@1conu593
Жыл бұрын
No it’s just proof rust converter are a scam😂
@Xover112
Жыл бұрын
rust converter also shows you how much rust is left in pores if you dont clean it out completely, there is no point of repair.
@xxn0cturn3xx
Жыл бұрын
@@Xover112 thats the point of the rust converter, you dont need to clean it to bare metal, guess you two guys went to the same school🤣🤣
@Xover112
Жыл бұрын
@@xxn0cturn3xx Or you have no clue about body repairs, rust converter doesnt stop rust, especially if its rusted on both sides and you "repair" only that part that is on the outside, normal people would give warranty for 1year with repair like this.
@xxn0cturn3xx
Жыл бұрын
@@Xover112 "rust converter doesnt stop rust" 💀💀
@jameswood8564
Жыл бұрын
Ah, a sprinter, the only van to actually be made of rust from the factory, not every manufacturer does that you know
@kierankay100
Жыл бұрын
Once I've cleaned rust of any metal.i use red oxide primer .... always had great results I may be wrong but each to there own great job btw ..... not too much filler too looks like you just got to it in time !
@Stahodad
Жыл бұрын
Red oxide would show through the white. But on darker colours its good too!
@vandalorian8777
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I have a couple of spots on my van that need attention, my paint just arrived so the timing of this video couldn’t be any better. Quite possibly the best 54 second video on KZitem
@bugfeatures
3 жыл бұрын
Well i have a couple of spots between my rust.. i am afraid that will not be enough to handle it
@mattlawton4715
Жыл бұрын
Don't fill holes weld new bits in. Rust treat after grinding .
@mattlawton4715
Жыл бұрын
Also you will need to treat the back side of the repair
@CoolKoon
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately spots as deep in the video are quite hopeless and have to be cut out anyway.
@TheMadTatter
Жыл бұрын
Another good tip for avoiding rust is not to buy an old Sprinter 👍
@goldslcc02
Жыл бұрын
sorry not everyone can afford newer or less used vehicles.
@TheMadTatter
Жыл бұрын
@@goldslcc02 maybe not, but there are many better and cheaper alternatives to an old sprinter even on the used market. They're a notoriously shit van.
@Rentta
Жыл бұрын
Or Transit or Any Renault, Peugeot, Opel, Iveco or Toyota.
@volvo245
Жыл бұрын
Rust preventer is usually just phosphoric acid, you can get concentrated PA much cheaper, water it down a bit and a liter bottle will last you a very long time.
@gloooopo
Жыл бұрын
I've yet to see a Sprinter over 5 years old without these spots
@Kampbell300
Жыл бұрын
We’ve had them on crafters and sprinters after only 2 years!
@jasdunlop9907
Жыл бұрын
Rust buckets try a different make of van
@Kampbell300
Жыл бұрын
@@jasdunlop9907 anything with that body type is the same unfortunately
@poopy.butthole
Жыл бұрын
At my last job we had a '12 and a '14 without a single rust spot on either van... in California 😂
@willbaker8884
Жыл бұрын
There’s not much to choose from! Either sprinter or a transit and you’ll have to deal with rust, or ducato/relay/boxer with gutless engines and very poor cab interiors/sound control. I’ve heard crafters post 2013 (I think) are galvanised- so that’s probably a good option.
@chrismorris1973
Жыл бұрын
You normally don't sand rust treatment most you have to remove with a damp cloth when it turns black
@randywl8925
Жыл бұрын
@freddi5210what's a fertan?
@bruwin
Жыл бұрын
@@Light_Painter If you're going to do what he did there's absolutely no point in using rust preventer/converter. The whole point of using it is so that you don't have to sand and grind it away to bare metal.
@randywl8925
Жыл бұрын
@freddi5210 I blinked.
@T1m11
Жыл бұрын
@@Light_Painterwhat evidence does the video give that its the right way? It reacts with the rust to form a protective layer. If you sand all the rust away afterwards there is no point in using it. Putting water on it makes it react better, a little sanding afterwards is OK, because it shouldn't be left on not rusted metal. Then prime and fill.
@josephking6515
Жыл бұрын
@freddi5210 Well that was helpful..... *not!* 🙄
@Buzzhumma
Жыл бұрын
So convert the rust to feric phosphate and then remove the ferric phosphate. Seems legit. Why wouldn't you just remove the rust like you do in the end anyway? Must be a generational thing. 🤷♀️
@richardcook1480
2 ай бұрын
Cut it out weld in a patch grind the weld smoth.then body fill. Prime & paint
@roryembleton778
Жыл бұрын
Then re do every few months for the rest of its life!
@ribbitism
Жыл бұрын
nice video.. that's one down, 384 to go!
@ALINUED
Жыл бұрын
after rust converter, never sand it.
@katdat1399
Жыл бұрын
Why?
@ltmltm4945
Жыл бұрын
@@katdat1399 id like to know as well. it's my first project on my van, and i'm stressing it lol
@Rekt-M8-v4
Жыл бұрын
@@ltmltm4945 I would sand it with a Dremel after using the rust converter, because most rust converters barely do anything, so sanding down to bare metal would be better, and actually you can probably just skip the rust converter part, sand to bare metal ensuring no rust is left, use a body filler to fill in the sanding spot, sand flat with a lighter grit, primer, paint, and clear coat, and then you are done.
@RGBSHM
Жыл бұрын
Definitely sand it! If you don't the paint will be thrown off by the rust converter
@rulerzartwork6346
11 ай бұрын
@@ltmltm4945 After I clean everything with wire brush, flap discs, dremmel and everything else 🤣 I put phosphoric acid just after I cleaned everything to a healthy bare metal.. Then remove when residues comes up with steel wool and after that give it a wipe with alcohol, after that put again phosphoric acid and dry it clean with industrial dryer and paint directly after drying because if you wait for a day it will start flash rust again.. If you don't use phosphoric acid and you paint over healthy bare metal, be sure that a little rust will be under paint after few days no matter you are sure there was no rust until you painted, it starts to rust instantly if there is humid air and 1 dot of rust left is enough for the cancer to spread under the paint, I tested it on my w124 with all combinations.. I skipped some steps but all the crucial steps are written, good luck guys..
@Rocksolidhandyman
Жыл бұрын
Flap Wheel enters the chat!💪🤙
@jonniemadeit
8 ай бұрын
Great job 👍
@CosgroveNotts
Жыл бұрын
Standard Merc rust they don't have a problem with
@michaelkaminsky9914
Жыл бұрын
Should be using fiberglass filler, water proof and won't bubble later on from moisture.
@georgieats
7 ай бұрын
which sandpaper do you recommend for removing surface rust? I want to get it removed before getting it painted at a shop. Thanks
@benfurbank
Жыл бұрын
Cheers that's made me get the desire to fix that one patch of rust on my van
@jamesgravel7755
Жыл бұрын
I did a fleet of these vans all rusted like that. It was 8 of them I think. It’s sucked. They were rusted front to back.
@johnw4590
Жыл бұрын
Sprinters have serious rust issues in the rust belt.. but I'll bet there isn't one spot of rust underneath?
@THATkiidLANDO
Жыл бұрын
Ypu should not wet sand body filler that is only for primer and painted surfaces. Body filler is very porous and will absorb that water and not release it for hours on hours (way longer than you waited to coat) resulting in the moisture getting trapped and slowly rotting away the steel and in this case there was previous rust exposure making it easier and quicker for that moisture to take hold and corrode the metal away again leaving you where you started but worse off
@1morgaming650
5 ай бұрын
what's the name of the compound used to bring the shine back?
@_-KOEN-_
Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t you primer first to make sure the filler sticks?
@glennsvoboda6602
Жыл бұрын
Mercedes, MOPAR, NISSAN took off the Zink plating that was introduced in the 80s to prevent this horror. I fixed many GMs ,Jeeps in the early 80s with rust spots like this on new cars with 6 miles from dealerships. The body fillers needed to be changed to adhere to this plating. Ok back were we started from!!!
@ekpurcell6546
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great job Alex. You clearly know what you are doing! Our van needs urgent attention, do you take on jobs like this? We are just down the road from you in Alcaidesa. Let me know if you are interested and your rates. Cheers
@KiteVanMan
3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Sorry I don’t, would love to help if I could.
@TheManLab7
Жыл бұрын
Why do Merc vans ALWAYS rust? I've seen Merc vans that are less than 2 years old and they've got rust. Is there a reason why they don't galvanised steel? 🤷🏻♂️
@monsie2388
Жыл бұрын
Nice job sanding
@tristanspahr6164
Жыл бұрын
There is no point in using a rust converter if you're just going to grind it away...
@bigsteev1
Жыл бұрын
Fertan hast to be washed of with water before painting over it. And it makes no sense to put putty on the bare metal. Putty soaks water an the rust will come back under it. It's better to seal the rust with epoxy primer.
@chrispearson4904
3 жыл бұрын
Love it mate, hope you guys are keeping well :)
@Kid617
4 ай бұрын
So you use rust preventer which I understand but then you send it down to bare metal past the rust preventer so could you just skip the rest preventer
@KiteVanMan
4 ай бұрын
Rust converter, so it kills it (as much as possible). If I leave it on it messes with the finish. People seem to have other opinions though
@thaintriguing1
Жыл бұрын
Treats a spot on the door; magically, the whole door is like new
@toygt8616
Жыл бұрын
You can do that on sprinter vans until the whole body is made of body filter…
@jonhunt5408
Жыл бұрын
Seriously though, if you are going to grind the rust out, why bother with rust converter? It’s a wasted step. Only use converter if you’re not removing all traces of rust.
@Mobileblaster
Жыл бұрын
How to deal with rust sand blast it 😉👌👍
@mattmercer1000
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, a job I need to do on my van soon so very useful, thanks 👍
@jeepwk6.5L
Жыл бұрын
Will this work on other vehicles?
@AMERICANA-BOOMSTICK
Жыл бұрын
Goated
@MaxGolden
Жыл бұрын
You are in a seemingly dry climate, why so many rust issues? Sprinters are rust prone, but still, I am confused. I know other sprinters there have the same problems.
@mrcottrell
Жыл бұрын
All of this is good advice But the rust will return usually within 12 to 18 months so be aware, and not too heart-broken when it starts to bubble back
@marcusporter6984
Жыл бұрын
Do you use clear coat?
@andygrayson7485
3 жыл бұрын
Top Job 👍👍👍
@JoeBaR-202
Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if this is the right way ,why put on the rustconverter and then grind it away. I think i would grind away the rust first ,then aply the rust converter and then the bondo
@thisreal8979
Жыл бұрын
That's not how you use Fertan. And it's not a "rustpreventer" either.
@vibeslide
Жыл бұрын
And while you fixed that spot the Sprinter will have developed 3 more. German engineering at it's best.
@Overworkt
Жыл бұрын
German financial engineering more like
@justinmalone9721
Жыл бұрын
Primer that metal before puttying it up
@machobunny1
Жыл бұрын
Excellent for trucks or junkers that matter little or have no resale value. DO NOT TRY IT ON AN EXPENSIVE CAR...You cannot match the paint in a small area on a multilayer, expensive paint job.
@danave3567
Жыл бұрын
Put a sticker over the spot and forget about it
@yosipko5282
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@rc_repair
Жыл бұрын
That fly almost became part of the car when the primer paint came out.
@GaryThatsgary
Жыл бұрын
Its a merc, i hope you're ready for the next bit in a weeks time.
@stevemcevoy5628
Жыл бұрын
I think you're supposed to remove as much rust as possible first then treat it and don't sand it of fill prime paint
@ijskoffie1
Жыл бұрын
At this point its not even worth buying paint to fix it.
@RossoSimRacing
Жыл бұрын
1 Remove rust with sandblast 2 aply epoxy sealer 3 use putty/bondo 4 close it with primer 5 than paint Other way, rust will come back quite soon. I have 27 y.o. BMW. I know what I'm taling about.
@bassmandudge
Жыл бұрын
Mercedes sprinter panels rusting? How to deal with it? Sell it and buy a new one ..trust me once they start going they go like wildfire and you'll be doing this every week.... My 2003 looked like a disaster zone 6 months after rust started appearing at the corner of the back door ( super common problem)..i can't believe MB haven't sorted this issue on sprinters.
@perkypat2214
Жыл бұрын
Hey, I think this is a pretty good video. You fit most of the important stuff into a short time. Where is the clear coat though?
@mikewillspray9897
Жыл бұрын
Now it will just look like someone hit it with a baseball, but if you look at the repair from the front of the car it looks great👍🏼
@funnyanimalworld7579
Жыл бұрын
It will be good for two months the rust will break though new paint again
@eric63377
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to call one of my X's right now and tell her I'm gonna need 2to3 good top coats just to see what her response will be.
@dane4265
Жыл бұрын
how about clear coat
@MooshYT
Жыл бұрын
As a professional accident repair and paint technician I must say you did a very good job! Most people that are not in the trade do a terrible job. Well done 😊🎉
@Manc-king
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t use water /wet&dry on filler, filler absorbs moisture and then once painted will bubble as the moisture is trapped
@MooshYT
Жыл бұрын
Hi bud your totally right, If I got filler wet I would in most cases re do the whole filler job as its not worth the risk of bubbling the paint in the future but It's hopefully degreaser in that bottle? at least it's what I'd use :) For what seems like someone not in the trade I am pretty impressed with OP for the most part :)
@hgpo27
Жыл бұрын
@@MooshYTback side of the panel isn't treated. rust came from trapped moisture on the inside typically. will continue unless back is treated
@MooshYT
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I don't think so otherwise how did he grind it all down from the outside without going through the other side leaving a hole or more rust? Didn't look like it to me, but even so I was only commenting on the little bit that I could see in the short clip 😅
@Grandafmor
Жыл бұрын
If that is a good repair in your book, I feel sorry for your clients.
@Absaalookemensch
Жыл бұрын
Prevention. Where we live, old vehicles sit in fields for decades and do not rust.
@letsgetdigging7418
Жыл бұрын
Just keep painting over it with some white hammerite
@dalecox8136
Жыл бұрын
If you drive a van that looks like this I bet you drive like a w*****, so what you do is drive into someone, write the van off then with the payout you can buy a new van, and boom the rust is gone.
@teppotulppu1603
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much they would sell Sprinters if they made them even little better prevent rust. Such a sh*t boxes because they are rust before you drive them out from your dealer..
@LOVE2RC
Жыл бұрын
What was the point in using rust convertor if you're just going to sand it back off 😂 yes when using rust convertor you leave it on there that's the whole point in it you can body fill or paint over it.
@sm9300
2 жыл бұрын
That'll come back 12 months later!
@stulakin
Жыл бұрын
Why’s that?
@abdulkadirthecarguy1948
Жыл бұрын
@@stulakin filler dont have same elasticity as metal. Thats why. Metal bends as vehicle takes turns. Temperature changes expands filler and metal at diffrent rate... etc etc...
@stulakin
Жыл бұрын
@@abdulkadirthecarguy1948 thanks for that info. Appreciate learning something new as I was curious
@abdulkadirthecarguy1948
Жыл бұрын
@@stulakin you're welcome. I wish I could see it 3 month ago and answer it. 😅 If bondo application done properly. It would last longer. Hotrod masters used to use lead as filler. Lead is metal too. So it has similar expansion rate. If you find this thing fun, you should check it out.
@Manu-Official
Жыл бұрын
How to fix rust on a van: Don't buy a mercedes
@juicysmollett255
Жыл бұрын
Will this take less than 3 years to do!
@alex_darl7637
Жыл бұрын
What causes Mercedes to rust on a straight surface where water doesn’t even stay still? New rust spot will appear faster than you can repair these 😂
@petermcgill1559
Жыл бұрын
If there is a rust spot on the door there's probably a lot more rust on the chassis. I wouldn't even bother trying to fix the door.
@malcolmcowan9554
Жыл бұрын
It will come back there rust buckets.bodys are made from Chrysler Daimler with cheap Chinese steel
@conductorcammon
Жыл бұрын
I live in the desert...nothing ever rusts.
@davidpetrol7870
Жыл бұрын
Or dont buy a Mercedes at all in the first place. Obvious rust issues sponsored by Daimler management 🎉
@edgargg1669
4 ай бұрын
always sand in one direction only. The end product will be a million times better. Also shouldve added glaze on top of the filler
@harrygatto
Жыл бұрын
Try not to use the tips of your fingers on the paper when rubbing down, use your fingers flat or use a block.
@welshshogun6750
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, do you think rust working just outside? a couple of month later rust coming back again
@swyveu
Жыл бұрын
so much BS stuff to fix a little hole... leave it. It's a scar. It's personality.
@JarrenW83
Жыл бұрын
What "top coat" are you using exactly? Most rattle can spray paints will not polish to a shine after wet sanding.
@hgpo27
Жыл бұрын
nice, you left the back side of the panel untreated, and it will continue to rust through in a couple years of leas
@jaynebensaad2886
3 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant 👏 😀 xx
@josephking6515
Жыл бұрын
So you'll have a nice shiney painted repair spot but the rest of the paintwork will look like shite. 👍
@volkerpetersen2671
Жыл бұрын
Take a roller and some Hempels marine grade paint. Paint it, done. Millions of sailors will approve!
@dagored4077
Жыл бұрын
And you end up with a small area of pristine paintwork to show off how crappy the rest of the body work is.
@herrtauso6489
Жыл бұрын
Meister, der fault von innen nach außen. Da kannst du noch soviel drauf schmieren, das hilft nichts, wenn das Blech von innen weiterfault. Außerdem isoliert man das Blech vom Spachtel mit Epoxidgrundierung. Metall und Polyesterspachtel haben unterschiedliche Ausdehnungskoeffizienten.
@Pro88teC
Жыл бұрын
That's s merglcedes sh!tbox Rust from the inside out. No way you can safe this car.
@Turbowagon
Жыл бұрын
Don't wet sand filler. The talc powder in it will suck up moisture and trap it against the metal
@johsonkunterpubg1747
Жыл бұрын
Don't wet the polymer before put coat on it because it's make bubbles after paint and little time
@anormalrat
Жыл бұрын
Dont wet rub your body filler and the repair will last heaps longer and use exopy primer
@inkman6964
Жыл бұрын
Treat the rust come back the next day and grind the treated area then fill lol you don’t have a clue
@shockoo
Жыл бұрын
You have the exact same voice as the main character from Clockwork Orange 😮
@lofiRob
Жыл бұрын
Why apply superficial rust treatment only to grind it all off? Waste of time & money.
@Riczmondo1
Жыл бұрын
Omg what are you doing?!! it has nothing to do with professional rust removal
@joshnic2330
Жыл бұрын
Never use water on body filler it’s Absorbent and the panel will rust again 👎
@grandmabiscuits
Жыл бұрын
so. you out rust preventer on. only to immediately take it back off again. i see.
@lx1402
Жыл бұрын
From a panelbeater once you see steel you have gone too far when sanding filler
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