bro just made another banger video yet comments something stupid like this, this is why I love this channel.
@patrickobrienstr
6 ай бұрын
😂
@mamonth6985
6 ай бұрын
the funny thing is that difference in price is non existent in my country. The companies that sell them in my country already "Adjusted" the prices based on real value.
@PyromancerRift
6 ай бұрын
And the pump will die. When it does, you are in to spend the same amount of money, again. But when a fan dies on an air cooler, it cost 10 bucks to replace.
@arghpee
6 ай бұрын
>hear fan bearing whirring >replace cpu fan with noctua >no more whirring happy
@Jackikins
6 ай бұрын
Order the same AIO, swap the stickers, send it back and get a refund.
@s.g.t.t.9441
6 ай бұрын
Here I heard it here 😂 that's legit the best strategy from personal experience working at retail it would 100%work we always look at stickers and serials so if it matches it's getting RMA @@Jackikins
@arghpee
6 ай бұрын
@@Jackikins unethical life hack lol
@sawdust8691
6 ай бұрын
I just built my first ever PC and went with an aio. Decided on an Arctic lll since from everything I saw Arctic is one of the best while costing way less. So far I'm very happy with it. If it does fail earlier than is reasonable I'll go with air instead. But I hope and expect the aio to last many years.
@TheIndulgers
6 ай бұрын
Air cooling is the way. Cheaper, more reliable, and no pump noise.
@lilpain1997
6 ай бұрын
You can get really competitive AIOs nowadays in price. Arctic at least here in the UK are god tier for that stuff. Also never had an issue with pump noise ever. I will say they are more reliable but I have also never had an issue with using one for literally 5+ years. I have literally never had one fail. I know an air cooler can last wayyyyy longer though so that is a huge W for a lot of people who want to save some on their new build they do, allowing an extra bit of cash towards the CPU or GPU.
@gozadrotit7426
6 ай бұрын
@@lilpain1997I agree with you. I bought Corsair t170i I didn't remember the name. I bought it a year ago just for 170 euro, it has 5 years warranty. I use it to cool 13700k and I'm totally happy with AIO. My CPU doesn't goes above 70-75 degrees Celsius. Also big advantage is that you can put radiator where you want instead of putting heavy air cooler on motherboard and have risk that it will bend motherboard overtime. In my opinion paying a little bit more for AIO is win win.
@GeneralS1mba
6 ай бұрын
I think arctic liquid freezer III 360mm aio is one of if not the best cooler for amd processors (performance is worse on intel), and is sub £70. Worth it imo.
@jujuu1339
6 ай бұрын
@@GeneralS1mba i thought their new ones come with a contact frame
@sawdust8691
6 ай бұрын
@lilpain1997 I just built my first ever PC and went with an Arctic lll 360mm AIO. I was heavily debating going with air or aio cooling. I think either would be fine. Cooling a 7800x3d. But from everything I saw, Arctic got special shout-outs as one of the best AIOs as well as being way cheaper than equal alternatives. So ultimately I went with it. Very happy. I'm new to PC so don't have a lot of experience. But the CPU currently never goes above 57C in games. I assume that's a good temp 😂. It's also basically dead silent compared to the case fans. Not sure if I want or need to adjust the fan or pump curve, or what better settings would be. But as is right now I'm glad I went with this AIO and didnt overspend on a different brand. Looks very clean.
@SupraBagels
6 ай бұрын
I think we overestimate how much we actually we want out of Pc and not actually having fun with it
@sheperdofthebrahs
6 ай бұрын
Ye. Wont start playing new games just because you got a new PC
@ChillBoy-rk7ms
6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I've never had one before so how would I know 😅
@HunterTracks
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have a cheap laptop I was worried wouldn't be able to play AAA games. I dunno, it probably isn't, I haven't played a AAA game on it for months and I can't say I miss them.
@potato_trianon6984
6 ай бұрын
Gets a new pc - plays game - bored - plays lateset AAA game - Slightly low frame - sad - looks for upgrade - new GPUs over $700 - P A N I C - Saves money - more processors - put more things in the cart - Builds another PC than upgrading the last one - broke.
@legendmaster1989
6 ай бұрын
What?
@NeckbeardIndustries
6 ай бұрын
"There's no way your wasting time with todays sponser" *Sponserblock automatically skips the baked in ad* Hey, you were right!
@davidmacfarlane4761
6 ай бұрын
Hilarious!! 🤣 I will have to try Sponaorblock
@huckleberryjam4975
6 ай бұрын
Freeloader thinks he's funny or smth
@ArtisChronicles
6 ай бұрын
I actually don't mind sponsor spots. Sometimes i actually hear about something I'm legitimately interested in. Usually I just tune it out until it's over 😊
@stonkyboy7606
6 ай бұрын
@@ArtisChroniclesI skip instantly for the sponsors that I see so often. I don't need to hear about Brilliant or Raid Shadow Legends for the 400th time, I would skip.
@StreamlinSCP
6 ай бұрын
@@huckleberryjam4975boo hoo, just get an adblock
@Alvin853
6 ай бұрын
Companies like Corsair, Arctic, Lian Li etc. pay a lot of money to sponsor influencers so they show off their products in every video and people think they're living in a cave when they don't build a PC like this.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
Yeah my PC is mounted to the wall of my cave to keep the water from the underground stream from ruining by basic black no frills components.
@ocha-time
6 ай бұрын
I've spent $75 on CPU coolers in the past decade. It's not about fun, it's about practicality. And fucking with a faulty AIO isn't "fun". I'll take that time and money saved and reinvest it into games.
@ArtisChronicles
6 ай бұрын
I made the mistake of getting a corsair H100i v2 at one point. The v1 was a solid product, but the v2 didn't use enough anti corrosive in its mixture and many would end up with a failure due to corrosion. Mine included in that batch. I later saw a post by a dude using his computer for work going through about 5 of them. All of then having the same failure. I just switched back to air and never thought more about it after that.
@HanSolo__
6 ай бұрын
I spent 12$ on Thermaltake white RGB; it makes ZERO noise.
@ocha-time
6 ай бұрын
@@HanSolo__ Yeah, air coolers in general are pretty frickin quiet now. The standout quiet boy performer for a while was the Hyper 212 Evo, but now there's at least six or seven fans out at market that are just as quiet or more quiet that still keep the CPU chilly, you've gotta be doing some real wild stuff to need AIO for anything other than aesthetics, and of course no shade to those who use them for build look reasons. But certainly if you're just looking for performance and value, you should steer very clear from that and just get a tower air cooler
@chipsalom
4 ай бұрын
@@ArtisChroniclesthe thermal right peerless assassin 120 SE ... Spent $30 on it. Sure my CPU is just an i7, but it's 14th gen, and even when running at 5.6 mhZ, the temps never even worry me. I rarely ever hear the sound of my fans, and my case is running 11 of them (if we count the 3 on the graphics card). Maybe I got lucky with incredibly good airflow, maybe it's Maybelline. Or maybe, AIOs just aren't needed, lol
@Zieldak
6 ай бұрын
My GPU is white, my RAM kit is blue, my SSD and HDD are silver, my mobo is black with yellow stripes, no RGB. All in a windowless case. As long as it performs well, I honestly don't care about the looks.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
I replaced my side panel with this server fan panel with 4 massive fans. Hooked up the fans to am adjustable voltage transformer to a very low setting and get massive airflow. I always turn off the power strip to my PC anyway so it's perfect and my 6950 XT went from 80 degrees to 65 degrees just replacing the side panel with the 4 fans panel. It's janky but I literally have zero desire to get any sort of proper setup. Even the $50 for a decent case can be added to the savings for my next CPU upgrade. No frills and all performance.
@SimplCup
6 ай бұрын
same, i recently built my first ever pc and i didn't bother looking at how parts looked, whether they had rgb or not. it still somehow came out looking good and stylish tho xd
@Honerkamp
5 ай бұрын
The only looks that matter is the case. And that doesn't cost you more just to get a nice and sleek case. Nowadays often with fans already included.
@Noname-iq1gz
4 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163the fan panels are insanely expensive bro, no way
@christophermullins7163
4 ай бұрын
@@Noname-iq1gz I am in that line of work so it was free. Yes... $120+ minimum for the panel lol pretty sure this one was over $200 😂
@z590iGeeeKReBoRN
6 ай бұрын
The problem is: those apps lead to benchmaritis, which leads to overclockathon, followed by hardware envy
@matthewrease2376
6 ай бұрын
I've never built a PC before, but I plan to by the end of the year, and I recently found your channel, and it's been giving me great info. Thank you. I'm not in this for looks, I'm in it to spend a lot, and get even more. I don't plan to buy another PC for at least 6 years afterwards, if not longer.
@MrAnimescrazy
6 ай бұрын
What is your budget? What are your current specs if you have a list of parts?
@matthewrease2376
6 ай бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy well I'm going to make a new build once I'm actually ready to start buying, but I'm shooting for about a 2k $ build.
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
6 ай бұрын
also, the money saved while getting similar performance (at least at 1440p, like with the 2 builds here) can be used for a better mouse, better keyboard, better audio (both speakers and headphones/IEMs) and of course a way better monitor (or multiple monitors) than someone originally would have gotten if they had used that money for the tower. $400 is A LOT for a setup if used outside the PC.
@ChillBoy-rk7ms
6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I made a whole desktop 🖥️ set up for 1500 dollars on newegg (to match a price range 😅). Also I didn't by that because I didn't have 1500$ to spend
@ChillBoy-rk7ms
6 ай бұрын
Outside the PC is expensive, the PC built alone is 1,000 dollars depending on the knowledge you put into it
@Micromation
2 ай бұрын
I think people spend way too much on peripherals that don't offer any real advantage. There's virtually no meaningful performance difference between £14 60% mechanical keyboard and a £100 name brand one. Similar with mouse - Rapoo VT9Pro for £24 will perform as well as any Logitech money can buy. Most gaming headsets people buy have garbage audio quality and/or atrocious microphone but then Beyerdynamic MMX100 exists at £50 and blows them out of the water. Most "gaming" accessories are a complete ripoff garbage with HUGE markup. IMHO all that money should go towards a decent monitor, which is the aspect most people neglect.
@TheAtomoh
6 ай бұрын
I got almost insulted for putting a Thermalright PA with a 7800x3d. Everyone told me i had to buy a 240mm AIO.
@EugeneShibusawa
6 ай бұрын
i've seen a good amount of people using a LOW PROFILE AIR COOLER on the 7800x3d, and it was completely fine
@nameisemmy
6 ай бұрын
Same. Except mine is Phantom Spirit cuz I want to support Thernalright for giving us the better Noctua performance.
@sntslilhlpr6601
6 ай бұрын
Jeez, where were you where people were saying shit like that? I honestly can't even imagine sleeping on the value of these air coolers. I think a lot of kids today just don't understand how unprecedented they were. AIOs were actually great for a while, but that was back when you had to buy Noctua to get good air performance, which was in a similar price range. Ever since Thermalright decided they wanted to undercut the market it's been a no-brainer for any budget conscious gamer. If you *really* want watercooling just because it's cool, then you should spend the fortune it takes to actually do it yourself. Otherwise air is a no-brainer and that's before you even start talking about longevity.
@Dankyjrthethird
5 ай бұрын
Reddit moment
@meusana3681
5 ай бұрын
When you don't realize the cpu will adapt to the cooler it's given...smh
@HoneyBadgerVideos
6 ай бұрын
i dont get AIO cooling for the better temps but to keep the temps out of my case. I also like the tubes in my case and the added extra rgb fans. that is worth the price for me.
@tourmaline07
6 ай бұрын
Agree with this - I've ran some pretty powerful GPUs (Vega 64/2080Ti/4080 Super) - all over 300W and some approaching 350W and I'd like to not have the heat dumped from them onto a CPU heatsink.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
@@tourmaline07well you are clearly wrong.
@dvxAznxvb
6 ай бұрын
Consumers are trying to find reasons to purchase products
@dr.mortal2894
6 ай бұрын
nope, the industry wnat that u buy all of their produrcts, or even better, all products from only one
@INTROSPEKTRAL
6 ай бұрын
i use water cooling because of it's small form and ease of install on mothearboard, instead of installing huge air cooler radiator. that's about it. that's real tangible pro of water cooling. also keep in mind that having radiator inside flows all that hot air inside the pc and then exhausts it via airflow, whereas water cooling flows all that hit outside right away, so even on ryzen 5 my gpu runs 5c cooler and my rams are cooler aswell, because that extra part heat isn't exhausted inside. it becomes even more important if u have heavily flawed gpu like 3090 which has extremely hot memory and that 5c temp drop becomes 10c temp drop.
@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer
6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Finally someone
@UncannySense
6 ай бұрын
Majority of user installed AIO will be front mounted with fans blowing the hot air inside the case that will need just as many case fans required to expel the heat accumulated. So what really matters is case flow dynamics. Otherwise best scenario is having the radiator external and preferably in another room or outside...
@INTROSPEKTRAL
6 ай бұрын
@@UncannySense i haven't seen anyone around me installing AIO radiators in front. it dooesn't makes sense. unless one has absolutely zero understanding of airflow or no ability to use google (at which point i doubt they'll be able to install AIO anywhere for that matter) - noone would install it in the front.
@PyromancerRift
6 ай бұрын
Fun fact, i play at 4k 144hz on a 7900xtx and my CPU is a 7600 non X. Yes, because i will never need a better CPU to play at 4k, i will never be able to get 250fps. With a gigachad air cooler that runs at low speed the CPU never reach 60c. The only place i overspent is the GPU, to be able to also run its fans at low speed and have a super quiet system at full load.
@vvampyyy
6 ай бұрын
What fan do you use?
@SimplCup
6 ай бұрын
i suppose for gaming u don't need ultra powerful cpus, unless u want to play minecraft with 64 render distance or cities skylines 2
@magnusnilsson9792
6 ай бұрын
With a 144Hz monitor 144FPS is all you need, but if you bought a 7600 you can most likely upgrade it later.
@praetor5485
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. You have no idea how many setups I see with useless stuff that bumps up the price for absolutely no reason. People can spend those money on things that really matter like a stronger gpu/a better monitor but no.
@AleksCoreBY
6 ай бұрын
and what to do to people who already got RTX 4080 which is literally enough for all currently but they got some spare money. Why everyone check each other's wallet I dont get it
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
Idk.. I have always built strong PCs without wasting a $. Got a 6950 XT 5600x build thati spent $800 total on. Min max is all I know.
@nevernicemeadow
6 ай бұрын
you are right, PCIE3 NVMEs are good enough. You dont need PCIE4. but what you want are probably TLC cells instead of QVC. Also you probably want an NVME with DRAM cache. For this reason you should have chosen the Teamgroup M34 over the MP33. While both are PCIE3 (which is totally enough), only the MP34 has a DRAM cache
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
Hey buddy.. your brain is showing.
@buffmomloading
6 ай бұрын
I've considered going back to an aio several times but what pulls me away is aio pumps go bad. It's guaranteed. But air coolers, the only thing that could go bad are the fans which are cheap replacements in comparison. Unless you're overclocking, you don't need those extra few degrees. Peerless Assassin all day long here and I have yet to hit high 70s.
@tourmaline07
6 ай бұрын
I've had a fairly cheap Coolermaster ML240L running in my PC for six years now with the pump maxed - I do think it helps running pumps at a fixed RPM for the lifespan. Prefer to have AIOs which has more thermal capacitance and so you don't need to have the fans ramping so aggressively as you would with an air cooler , which gets saturated quickly.
@Tha-Biscuit
6 ай бұрын
One thing to remember when building your pc is longevity. The x3d imho is the better budget choice if you plan to keep long term.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
The same argument could be had for saving the money today to hold for a future CPU purchase in a few years. You pay more today for performance than you will in the future plus you don't need that performance today. The longevity argument is not a great one.
@mannen659
6 ай бұрын
I am using the COOLERMASTER Hyper 212X for my 5700x (65-100w) and it was fine with the FX 8350 (125w) costs 16 EUR. And it works fine.
@Playingwith3D
6 ай бұрын
If I could have found all the parts I would have reused mine too for sure.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
@@Playingwith3Dyou don't need all the parts. I have my aio fastened with random brackets that didn't come with it. Lol CPU runs 40c while gaming and overclocked so it's doing it's job.
@Playingwith3D
6 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163 That is the performance I remember from it. I used it on the FX8320 space heater at the time and it would keep it at around 32c all times. I have a 5800x with an AIO and its always running between 60-70c
@deansigman6099
6 ай бұрын
I just recently went from a 280mm aio to a Noctua air cooler. It's significantly quieter because of that pump and cools basically the same. I work from home and use the computer for roughly 10-13 hours a day. The noise reduction was worth the trade.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
How do you get any work done if you're gaming for 10-13 hours a day? That some serious multitasking. Props.
@deansigman6099
6 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163 lol. I wish I could game that much. More like 1-2 hours of gaming and 10 hours working
@redbunnyclassic
6 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163 he never mentioned gaming. Focus 😂
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
@@redbunnyclassic I know..
@Lukiel666
6 ай бұрын
I have the Peerless Assassin ARGB. It was $42 Canadian, looks great, runs cool and quiet. Used Arctic MX-6 instead of stock paste. Buy a good air cooler, put the money you save towards a better graphics card. That will make your system run better for the same overall price.
@Honerkamp
5 ай бұрын
I have EXACTLY 2 reasons for using an AIO. It looks nicer and when i build a PC for fun and sell it, it's less likely to be damaged while moving it around with an AIO rather than a tower cooler.
@ivoesteves4814
6 ай бұрын
This sounded deep yo, like actually like a movie, The build up explaining the terrible situation then quoting :"This is how you escape the Republic !!!"
@radosuaf
6 ай бұрын
I still have the Noctua NH-U12P cooler I bought back in 2008 (!) - I just slapped a new Noctua fan on it replacing the old one and got the mounting kit for LGA 1200 for free from Noctua. it's cooling my 11700 without breaking sweat :).
@ledheavy26
6 ай бұрын
Same. I'm on my second cpu with the same Noctua and have never had a temp issue. No reason to get water coolers unless you absolutely cannot fit one but can fit a water cooler, or if you just want one for aesthetics.
@Alexander_X_
6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I've never understood people who buy chip CPU and GPU with overpriced motherboard and memory. In addition to that they buy expensive watercooling, tons of fans, and a fancy-looking case. I can understand people who don't care about performance and want a good-looking PC or have enough money for anything they want but if you don't have money and you spend everything on appearance it's just ridiculous.
@ArtisChronicles
6 ай бұрын
I actually prefer the air cooler sound over that liquid cooler sound. That pump needs to be turned down a smidge. I hope they give better control over pump speed if they haven't provided it already.
@henson2k
6 ай бұрын
Do you use open case?
@Cho_osen
5 ай бұрын
never in my life have I ever learnt so much from a singular youtube video. Thank you so much for educating me on something i had no idea about but was just soo obvious. you truly are underrated vex. been a sub since 40k i think. i usually dont comment but i mean yah
@7HeavySteel
6 ай бұрын
Just got a Sapphire RX 7800 XT and it's a banger.
@patrickobrienstr
6 ай бұрын
I think that’s what I’m getting. What model did you pick up?
@25myma
6 ай бұрын
I still love the art of air cooling; you have to plan the airflow, use the smallest case possible to reduce the volume of air your fans move and if you do it right, you can match some AIO temps. Watercooling is still overkill and expensive for most builds but people keep falling for it as the 'ultimate cooling'.
@GeneralS1mba
6 ай бұрын
Less than £70 aio isn't that bad.
@25myma
6 ай бұрын
@@GeneralS1mba yeah, decent air coolers aren't cheap either and problem is many cheap ones are trash, that pushes more people towards AIO..also case art; a big brick is less sexy that glowing tubes and led stripes..and ther theres the install-n-forget comfort of that brick...as someone once said "It just works"😁
@AaronWOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Air coolers are gigantic now and make it a huge hassle to work around it (meaning ideally you would make it the last thing you install in your build). The problem however is when you want to tweak your build i.e change out the ram you are using, replace fans that just died etc you basically have to remove the air heatsink while with water cooling you can leave the pump in since its around the same size as the cpu socket itself. This is why I am going AIO water cooling for my next upgrade, creates so much more room around the motherboard to get your hands in to do what needs to be done.
@JordanRussle
6 ай бұрын
Crazy to me some people spend $300 on a motherboard to drop in an i5 and never overclock or ever use any of the extra features they paid hand over fist for. That and RGB AIOs that have screens on them for mid-range builds. Actual hardware spec over RGB and looks every-time. I prefer FPS gain over staring through my side-panel.
@rafaelacash7
5 ай бұрын
As someone who’s never built a PC before (tho I am planning on my 1st PC build soon if not NOW) I ain’t afraid to admit those liquid coolers just scream red flags… air cooling ftw 🙏🏼🔥
@Cookieguy97
6 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with the points. when I first built my am4 build I could have saved on ram and fans by just getting plain colours and not RGB. Yeah, it was nice for a week but now I don't like it and most of time when I do eventually use my pc it's on the window sill with the curtains in front of the glass panel 😂😅 Am definitely jealous of your blacked out pc asthetics
@aiydanf
2 ай бұрын
The Dark Rock Pro 5 can handle anything you want it to, quietly. Pretty impressive
@LautaroQ2812
5 ай бұрын
It's been a while for this huge debate. And while there are some scenarios where water is better, AIOs the pumps break first all the time, sometimes they perform worse than a decently priced air cooler and you can't really refill it as far as I'm aware. I came to the conclusion that if you're going water, go full JayZ or just go air. The extra price and hassle of an AIO that will last you at top performance for only 2 years or 3 maybe, is not worth it. Edit: That motherboard VRM section was nuts. Learn a bunch, thanks a lot, great video!
@vangelis7
6 ай бұрын
The best buy on AM5 is the r5-7600. Its super fast performs as well as a 5800x3d, sips 65W and allows you to have easy path to upgradability in the platform without losing a lot of value in residuals
@EmilePesky-n1v
4 ай бұрын
I recently did a min/max build/rebuild/recycle of my own. (In Ireland, prices here are terrible so we need to shop around) Ryzen 5600 for €131 32gb high end ddr4 3600 cl 16-16-16 ram for 60 euro B550 mobo 80 euro(a good ASRock one) I already had the ram so that's why I stayed with b550 mobos. The next step up was something like a ryzen 7500f or 7600 with more expensive ram and mobo.... I just didn't have the budget to go with the newer platform. I just picked up a rx5700xt oc for 190 euro to complete it
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
I am the min/max king. I have $800 in my pc. 6950 xt 5600x 16gb 3800 cl18 Nvme and 2tb hdd 850watt evga Gpu cpu motherboard ram are new and everything else came from previous build but i worked those used price value into the $800.
@OfficialDJSoru
6 ай бұрын
I'm not spending on a spiffy case, I'm reusing my dad's old Thermaltake Xaser VI. Lotta drive bays for my old unused drives... especially if I get a Startech SAS to SATA card and 3d print some HDD mounts for the 5.25" bays. I'd have probably bought a new one if cases these days would let you have more than 2 3.5" drives. (I mean, there are, but they cost as much as this case did back in the day, and good luck finding them in stock). Only caveat is that I had to get a 5.25" I/O panel to add USB-C and 2 USB 3.0 headers at the front. You guys have no idea how long I had to search on Amazon for such a thing where the Chinese manufacturer actually had a USB-C header cable instead of making the connector route to a regular old USB 3 header. Oh and forget putting that case on a desk. Unless you want to break your back and your friend's lifting it. Best anti-theft PC case: so heavy nobody can steal it before the cops arrive
@Dennis_N.
6 ай бұрын
In Germany the arctic liquid freezers 3's are way cheaper then in the US. I got my Arctic Freezer iii 240mm for 60€ and the 360mm one cost only 76€!!! For comparison, I could habe gotten a termalright peerless assasin dual for 35€, or since a few days the new Arctic duo 36. Bit the 240mm Arctic 3 was a really good value for 60€, so I'm happy with my purchase
@sawdust8691
6 ай бұрын
I'm in the US and just built my first ever PC. I went with the Arctic lll 360 aio since they seem like the absolute best quality and price. Around 80-90 dollars here for the 360. Very good in comparison to the other options. Seems like a similar price. I'm pretty happy with it so far.
@MrAnimescrazy
6 ай бұрын
I went with an all white build I built last year with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the phanteks nv7. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month. I went with air cooling to keep it simple especially when I clean the pc.
@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer
6 ай бұрын
No way that will cool it
@MrAnimescrazy
6 ай бұрын
@@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer is this sarcasm? I have 12 fans in my build which is my profile picture. I play at native 2k or native 4k high settings with or without raytracing depending on the game and if I feel like using raytracing. My temps are very good and I deep clean the pc once a month maybe twice a month sometimes.
@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer
6 ай бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy i know. On text it sounds like i don't believe you
@MrAnimescrazy
6 ай бұрын
@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer that is dumb because air cooled is the majority of pc builds. Liquid cooling is the minority.
@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer
6 ай бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy but wait
@KevinEF
6 ай бұрын
I got the 7600x specifically to upgrade it in the future. Having the ability to pop in a new cpu in the future that is significantly faster than what I have sounds great. I would only need to buy a new cpu, nothing else. The 7600x is half the price while giving 80%-90% of the performance in gaming specifically.
@klientleo.kawaiidaisuki
6 ай бұрын
Watching your videos helps me enjoy the house chores while doing it. Not gonna lie, I’m doing dishes while watching this video and finished exactly when the video ended. 😂 About this video, I was thinking of going for AIO water cooler CPU Fan, but my mid tower is not good for it, and I realized that I don’t need it for I’m only rocking a Ryzen 5 5600G, which is not that powerful for intensive tasks. I’m still using a used RTX 2060S tho, and I’m contented with its performance 😄
@zhouzenkamfachannel1394
6 ай бұрын
I made the right choice I think! Motherboard- MSI Pro B650M-A wifi, GPU- Radeon sapphire RX 7700 XT Pulse 12GB, CPU- Ryzen 7 7700, Memory- Tforce 32gb 2X 16GB, CPU cooler- cooler master hyper 212 argb, Hard disk- kingston SNV2S200G 2TB
@patrickobrienstr
6 ай бұрын
Vex you need a discord! It’d be dope to talk about builds and such with your community
@chipsalom
4 ай бұрын
I build a lot of PCs for myself, family, friends, etc. and pretty much learned long ago that AIOs are usually a waste, if not sometims worse than decent priced air coolers. then, one person demanded an AIO... I told them several experiences i had had in both my classes and building experience that have made me pretty much avoid non custom water cooling loops/AIOs ever since. But they were adamant. So... I gave them what they wanted. I've never bothered with another liquid cooler pre-built again, because even after 3 reseats and repastings, and then even LAPPING the cold plate because of how bad the cooling was, it's temp performance was pure shit. I even returned it thinking I got a bunk one... but got same performance. I've never, EVER ran into thermal throttling or any heat issues at all with good air coolers. Pcs I've built over years as a rule max their temps at under 70C, across every build (aside from 3 i9s that were used for a lot of editing) aside from extreme rare cases of them absolutely TRYING to push the temps. Don't avoid the enormous selection of great performing, reasonably priced air coolers. Take that extra $80+ and put it towards a better component elsewhere, and thank all the ppl telling you to do this later 😂
@s1x_o
6 ай бұрын
About cases. Over years i learned that many budget brands already offer good cases. Some cheaper Deepcool or even Zalman cases are good. For me important part is cooling. if i can fit up to 3 fans in front, 2 on top, 1 on back, its all good. Got myself Deepcool for 50 bucks that even can fit 420 AIO in front if needed. Yea front pannel was plastic with horrible airflow but i fixed that with 20 minute mod.
@bmdshred77
5 ай бұрын
Lian Li 216 is the best $100 case out there. So much room to build in and massive quiet fans
@GetWokeGoBroke69
6 ай бұрын
I bought a liquid cooler and it died in 3 years. I came in one day and im like wtf is cpu temp is going crazy high like 90. Went back to air cooler and stayed with air cooler ever since.
@AleksCoreBY
6 ай бұрын
arctic gives 6 years warranty
@sp00kyvin
6 ай бұрын
you came in a liquid cooler? 😨😨😨
@tumo07
6 ай бұрын
Does waranty cover the pump failure or they are gonna say it’s wear and tear and won’t be under waranty
@henson2k
6 ай бұрын
Never had problem with NZXT AIO, you probably got unlucky
@GetWokeGoBroke69
6 ай бұрын
It's was a corsair, and liquid coolers have a high failure rate. Where air cooler is extremely rare. And it's easier to tell if an air cooler. I mean, just look at the fan. Where liquid cooler, it's the pump that failed, which, in my case it was.
@brewergamer
6 ай бұрын
If I win the lottery ima make an entire PC out of pure gold just to flex my build on Reddit. Have it liquid-cooled with $10,000 champagne, giant precious gems for buttons. Shuck yea dawg.
@gl1tch133
6 ай бұрын
I know what I'm about to say will be controversal, but let me explain. I prefer a consistent software experience by using products from a single brand. The inspiration for this approach came from Corsair iCue technology, which makes it possible to easily configure many Corsair products with just one app. That's when I wondered why more brands don't offer similar compatibility. I also follow this philosophy in the field of peripherals. I don't like to download separate software for different products from different brands to get the most out of them. That's why I'm a big fan of it when I only use one brand and therefore only have to use one software. In my case, it's the Steelseries GG app that I really like. This allows me to get the most out of the Steelseries peripherals.
@mick7727
6 ай бұрын
Someone who speaks sense! OMG I get tired of seeing videos saying 'YOU NEED A 7800X3D FOR 4K!!!' edit: I'd go for the 7700 non-x and use its stock cooler because that thing is absolutely amazing as is.
@SebiX-fp2ux
6 ай бұрын
I have purchased Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE yeasterday and seeing this video made my day better.
@idkwhattohaveasausername5828
6 ай бұрын
I have an deepcool AK500 and that thing is great. At max load my 7800x3d hits 80ish degrees. Air cooling is way better imo. Unless you’re doing a custom loop then go with watercooling, but for most it’s just not worth the effort
@dillthoughs
5 ай бұрын
microcenter saved my life with the same ram, cpu, and motherboard you showed in the non ripoff pc being bundled at $370
@ePandaTheGod
3 ай бұрын
AIOs / watercooling are needed for higher end CPUs, an Intel Core i9 14900kf will run hot with an air cooler. Running parts at higher temps degrades them over time.
@Arzack711
6 ай бұрын
There are a bit misleading informations here. yes, both air and liquid coolers can perform as close to each other and obtain the same cpu temperature on load, initially. but liquid cooler can retain lower temperature for even longer duration than air cooler can. air cooler will be saturated fast and lost the heat retention just as quick. over time, the performance of air cooler will be degrading and perform worse than liquid cooler. Hence, if you are gaming for prolong session, it's best to get liquid cooler.
@TheDock_
6 ай бұрын
I got a 7800x3d last week. the reason why i got one is because i mostly play tarkov and i got huge fps gains in that one game. i recomend playing Tarkov or watching videos comparing a non x3d chip to an x3d chip to see what happens when a game is able to take full advantage of the Level 3 cache
@wingmanemu3473
6 ай бұрын
tarkov has dogshit performance thats why it needs an x3d part to even run properly
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
@@wingmanemu3473my dogs shit has stunning performance.
@MiniTitan802
5 ай бұрын
Ever since I saw LTT cover the same topic I bought myself a Noctua (all black) behemoth and never looked back
@EdToml
6 ай бұрын
7700 is great. Made a similar call here. After 6 months I changed stock cooler, for a inexpensive AK400 - its quieter under load...
@marcelovidal4023
5 ай бұрын
I'm using a 13600T 35W cpu, An optane 900p 280gb as boot drive / game drive is a solidgm p44 pro 1tb / storage Toshiba XDG5 1.92tb Enterprise nvme and a sata team group 1TB... for graphics intel first / amd 6700xt second... can idle at 33w Build cost 1139us xD Cheap as hell
@edwardellis7611
6 ай бұрын
This is a great video and can't like it enough. PC Building has always been about marketing and it gets worse every year. I generally will build out of the same case for at least 10 years so I get at least 2 builds out of it so I will spend a little more there. Another place you can waste money is fans there are fans out there now that are 30 USD each some even more. I don't want to know how much I've blown on fans over the years (no pun intended) All the little extra's such as lights fan controllers etc. can increase build cost. I've had pretty good luck with AIO's I've got one I'm about to replace just due to its age. I will replace it with something from Thermalright An area where you shouldn't skip is PSU get the best one you can and get one that is warrantied for 10 years.
@zelven6109
6 ай бұрын
High end components, full noctua cooling, and a solid panel case. The perfect build
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns
5 ай бұрын
For the case I was finding the Monotech AIR MAX 903 to be a good value for $70 (one time it was on sale for around $60). It comes with three RGB fans in the front and one regular fan in the back, RGB HUB, and comes in E-ATX form factor for extremely easy cable management and futureproofabity for AIO if one chooses to do so. In addition the build quality on it is really good. Moreover ANY GPU will fit in that thing because it’s an E ATX case and for $70 it’s a steal. I hereby recommend this case for everyone including budget people.
@MajorCanada
5 ай бұрын
NH-D15S is best value if you want the classic. You save money with only the 1 fan and it keeps massive CPUs cool.
@gnobba
6 ай бұрын
Pros got the arctic p12 fans, based af. Also best budget case imo is the msi mag forge 100r £50 in the uk with 3 included fans that are decent, only downside is the snap off plates for the gpu slot covers.
@UncannySense
6 ай бұрын
Having gone through 4 liang d5 pumps on a custom loop over the years I can say other than an external radiator outside of the room the PC is used. Air cooling is superior. Never was interested in AIO coolers as I knew the pumps would be annoying to listen to.
@richardpierre7946
3 ай бұрын
Great video man, I am guilty of fomo and over spending on things I don't need. I'm in the process of building an itx build for travel and fighting myself to not go crazy specifically with a gpu as on my main rig I have a 4070ti.
@LurkingLarper
6 ай бұрын
Funny and on point since I just recently recommended a build with Peerless Assassin. Very goated cooler.
@prosecanlik4296
6 ай бұрын
For CPU cooling, let's not forget also the fact that you can undervolt CPUs, so they will hold the same or even give better performance while pulling even less W no matter full load or gaming, reducing temps even more. So AIOs are waste of money for most of the CPUs in my opinion, plus they can break down (coolant leak, pump failure, coolant canals clogging, etc), while the air coolers just work and there's no maintenance for them, except to clean them from the dust from time to time.
@Raptor999_
6 ай бұрын
got the microcenter bundle with a 7800x3d with a ddr5 motherboard and ram for 500 if anyone is looking it’s actually a really good deal
@sntslilhlpr6601
6 ай бұрын
Noice. The Microcenter deals are really just infuriating to anyone without access to them. Even just our prices in the US can be ridiculously cheap to some people but then you look at stuff like that and it is just downright insane.
@busywl69
6 ай бұрын
I'm running a the same 212 air cooler I installed 8 years ago on my daily PC. Put a Noctua Fan on it 4 years into its life. Still going. Cool temps. Meanwhile I can't count how many failed pump AIOs I've seen that conk out a few months after the warranty is over. Until a CPU cannot be cooled by a air cooler I'll be Air Jordan. As a former no-AMD user I'm impressed with the Ryzen line today. GPUs are a hustle today. 1080p with my overpriced EVGA 3060ti keeps me happy.
@MajorCanada
5 ай бұрын
NH-D15S is best value if you want the classic. You save money with only the 1 fan and it keeps massive CPUs cool. Pretty much stomps any 280mm AiO if you consider performance degeneration over time.
@daniil3815
6 ай бұрын
shortly for new builders: prioritize performance aka GPU, not looks. your budget/2 ~ should be your gpu budget. if you can cut something to go next tier of GPU - do it. if not spend the rest of your budget on looks.
@metallboy25
5 ай бұрын
**Puts a 4090 in build with Core2 duo and 8 gb ddr2**
@philipreininger2549
6 ай бұрын
First of all, great video, spent too much on cooling when i was inexperienced and now I recomment air cooling for most of my friends but about the sound, maybe the pumpsound comes from the pump not being at the utmost top spot of the loop. Maybe it only looks like this in the shot but if the pump gets filled with air that often gives annoying sounds as u know :)
@SpoonHurler
6 ай бұрын
On storage, DRAM can matter if you read/write lots of big files, or just lots of files in general. But for an OS/Games drive this is all correct still though and DRAM would only help your overall workflow (playflow?) if you have fast internet speeds. Great video and advice though.
@haim4
6 ай бұрын
Good video ! About SSD - direct storage is the future so as current pricing stands in amazon U.S and EU gen 3 nvme and sata is the same price, and if you want to utilize direct storage you need at least gen 3 and higher(Also Forespoken uses direct storage).
@GeorgeD1
6 ай бұрын
I have two water cooled PCs right now (custom open loops), and I can comfortably say that only a custom loop (bigger and quiet pump, loads of radiator space and therefore lower fan RPM, and considerably lower temps - especially the GPU) should be considered better than air cooling. Naturally, open loops are expensive and definitely not anything you ever NEED, I really do this for the quietness and to a large extent because of the bling factor. Stick to air cooling guys.
@christophermullins7163
6 ай бұрын
So you're one of "those" huh? I just put my outside in the snow.
@brendanlee5302
6 ай бұрын
There's me with an Arctic liquid cooler freezer 240mm (2x p12s) (£80), 4x noctua a12x25 (£30 each). 2nd hand 5900x (£200). Used to have a b350 but was convinced I was leaving performance on the table ( was also having BIOS issues boot ups) so I upgraded to a ROG strix b550. "For gamers😂" (£146). For me my computer is in the living room with the family and kids. It has to look nice and be quite lol
@benwuester1150
6 ай бұрын
I’m hyped that you have a test bench now! Keep doing you fam. Only way is up.
@Tyrian3k
6 ай бұрын
I honestly never understood the obsession with water cooling. For an Intel I9 that can draw beyond 300 watts, it's okay to use, but for my 7800X3D, my Peerless Assassin is borderline overkill. I'd say it can comfortably cool anything up to about 200 watts under full load. Overall, though, my focus was on getting pretty things happening on my screen, not in my PC case. The only thing that has RGB is my GPU and that's simply because it was the cheaper option.
@herrsalz278
6 ай бұрын
My pc was air cooled for 10 years without any problems. My old GTX 970 and my 4790k were resonably quiet under load. I changed to a 5800x with XFX6950xt a year ago. In terms of heat and performance they were fine but ohh boyy... the noise. I can't stand it. The build is still in my trusty ugly HAF X Case with a lot of air flow but those parts are power hungry. Even after tuning my fan curve I wasn't happy with the result. With the price of all those upgraded noctua fans I could have bought different gear to begin with I suppose. I recently changed to a custom loop because I wanted my system to be whisper quiet in every situation not only while idling. A single MoRa 420 radiator outside of my case with 9 arctic p14 fans on min rpm are as quiet as it gets and the system can pull way over 650w while doing so. Best descision ever. Sure... there is oc headroom but I mostly did it for the noise. My aquastream pump will most likely live longer than the rest of the system. Generally speaking water cooling isn't worth it but if you wan't your system to be silent without load based/ temp based fan curves there is no other way.
@TECHiSuppose
6 ай бұрын
Good suggestions! I did one water cooling project back when most of the components had to be purchased from pet/home stores. Since then I've never had the desire to do water cooling again even though it's plug-n-play. 😄 It's cool seeing it go mainstream with AIOs, but yeah... their actual uses cases feel much more niche than popularity would suggest.
@tomwills1163
5 ай бұрын
I use my cars old intercooler. Bonus of this is that the old engine oil residue helps reduce friction and wear on the CPU cores and increases multithreading performance.
@Yasai_1204
6 ай бұрын
A small note for the SSDs, always check the rated endurance of the drive (TBW value) especially with cheap drives to ensure that it won't die within a few years.
@stevans6942
6 ай бұрын
I really like black on black desktops it give vibe of serious, all those colors and lamps give me vibe of toy, and yes I don't won't water in any form near computer components it just make sense to me :)
@A_Name_
6 ай бұрын
Phantom spirit is just amazing all around. Easy as can be to install, cheap as dirt and is a beast of a cooler. I had to adjust my fan curve to be more aggressive on the CPU temp because my case fans would never speed up for my GPU lol
@hananas2
6 ай бұрын
Honestly the only reason I spent €150 on a motherboard is I wanted an ITX board with wifi, otherwise I wouldn't even have spent over 100. Also I'm running a 14 year old Scythe mugen 2 air cooler and it still performs great! The cost over time is so much better than water cooling, these things just last practically forever.
@Luke-pp2lw
6 ай бұрын
Great video, although you could go even further if you optimize for gaming or other things. The 7600 has basically the same gaming performance as the 7700x and the a $125 dollar Asrock b650 HDV will give the same performance, and there are some decent cases for $60-70
@rizrizriz
6 ай бұрын
IIRC right now there's like only five PC games that utilizes DirectStorage but those that does actually makes a huge difference with faster storage.
@justeddm
6 ай бұрын
Ever since I learnt this.. air cooling is always my option. I think most people are always opting for looks so they pick aios
@wolfwilkopter2231
6 ай бұрын
PL360 Flux 30th Aniiversary Edition on a 5800X3D here...i cant complain and them 120mm Mobius ARGB Fans are just Monsters. Thats why i have the Case littered with 140mill ones as well.^^
@1234enzor
6 ай бұрын
That air cooler sounds like a jet engine when under strain from gaming, good advice. Also the Liquid Freezer III cost the same as the air cooler, wierd manipulation of the screenshots.
@ardithconley2628
6 ай бұрын
Good video. I am going to build a budgeted PC already have most of the parts. I an going to use this case due to it looks nice and has RGB Fans in it with a glass door that has hinges on it. GAMDIAS Apollo E2 Elite Gaming Case Mid Tower ATX for $60 great deal.
@fr0zen1isshadowbanned99
6 ай бұрын
I noticed that there are very few Cases that let you install HDDs at all. It was really tough to find a Case with Enough HDD Slots, and in the end, I had to remove 2 Slots to fit the Graphics Card. Goodbye upgrade Path ^^ The same goes for the Mainboard. I had to buy an Extension Card Because 4 SATA Plugs isn't enough. So in the real end, I also had to buy an HDD Dock. Giant Case which is still too small 200€ The Mainboard choice was Soul crushing and I settled for 260€ + an Extension Card 60€ (incompatible with Win11 YAY) HDD Dock because you just can't un-Cablemanage everything every time you need to back something up 70€ After Weeks of dealing with all that and so much more Complications that came with the PC, I have it set up with its 4 HDDs, 4 SSDs, 2 M.2s. Now I hope to not have to touch it again for 5 years :P 1 year is nearly over and so far, so good :)
@katietree4949
6 ай бұрын
Being compared to Linus and Jay is an insult. One would ideally want to be compared to Buildzoid or our lord and savior, Tech Jesus.
@ScentofLaceration
6 ай бұрын
I will not watch either of those narcissistic douche bags. Tech Jesus is the way, the consumer advocate/informer we desperately need.
@meusana3681
5 ай бұрын
wtf are you on about. Both Linus and Jay are legends in the field. They've been doing THIS specifically for longer than most of you have been alive.
@NAK7798
6 ай бұрын
Definitely can overspend on a lot of that stuff. Just being picky but I would say that you are technically getting something better with water cooling, particularly custom loops, if you do noise normalize the water cooling will give you lower temps, if you try and go for the same temps as air then the water cooling solution will be quieter. Whether or not that is worth it for the increased price is debatable. I ran my system air cooled while waiting for all of my custom water cooling stuff to arrive in the mail and I can definitely say that it is significantly quieter and has significantly lower temps on water, not to mention it looks cooler. For most people I don't think that it would be worth the price, for me I love it, partially just for the enjoyment of making it that much more custom. Also I do think for some people, like myself, aesthetics will matter a lot more to them. I keep my pc on my desk so I like having something that looks good.
@peterjansen4826
5 ай бұрын
I have 4 tiers of SSD's: SATA600 ones (MX500, 850 Evo), PCIe3 crap tier (660p), proper PCIe3 (970 Evo) and proper PCIe4 (Western Digital Black). You definitely notice the differences but mostly it is about when you install, copy or remove files, in that case up to PCIe4 it makes sense to have better. But if you just game it doesn't really matter. The bang for the buck now is M2 PCIe3/PCIe4, the newest one (currently PCIe5) never is worth it if you look at value vs $.
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