What do you think these kids would benefit from at this point?
@Writer777-wanna_be.
5 ай бұрын
Therapy…and I suggest they let the Audio bible be played while they sleep(the reason is years ago I read where patients in comas came out of the coma by doing this) They don’t need to be put in a Mormon family, the choice of religion they choose is fair.
@robinhall5133
5 ай бұрын
Sports
@mimiz7937
5 ай бұрын
Living a life of just being kids, having friends, going and doing fun things, activities such as sports, taking art classes, going to an amusement park, Anything to keep them busy. I'm not a therapist, however I think at the age they are at, having a therapist would probably just make things worse and more traumatizing for them having to talk about how they "feel" and what they went through. All that stuff a therapist tries to get out of their clients. It might just make them uncomfortable talking about it, and quite often annoying. They're still very young. I don't think kids should ever be pushed into talking to a counselor especially if they don't want to. There are other types of therapy that don't involve a LPC. Let them be kids, and live a kid life. When they are ready to take that step in talking about it to a professional, they will. Therapist or no therapist, the trauma will always be there. Always. It usually doesn't hit you until you're an adult. I just hope and pray that they are able to live their lives in happiness, and peace.
@MarqueMyWords2442
5 ай бұрын
I would imagine that a feeling of safety and consistency will be very important, as well as freedom to make their own choices about as many things as are appropriate for their ages. They need to feel empowered, safe, and to understand that what they experienced was NOT normal or okay. They need to see that people do not agree with or condone the beliefs and methods that they were indoctrinated with, that their experience was aberrant, and that the people who did these things to them were mentally sick. They need lots of patience. They need to be able to make mistakes and even to disobey without experiencing punitive measures. They need tenderness, love, and fun.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@MarqueMyWords2442 well said
@francineb7340
5 ай бұрын
Watching your kitty snuggle you while you cover such a difficult topic is so helpful. Thank you for giving us a therapy kitty😊
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Haha I'm glad he could be here for this video. It ranged between distracting and entertaining
@mercedesbabel1496
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Your cat is absolutely adorable and seems very attached to you. Could a pet help these children?
@cindynewburg4084
5 ай бұрын
@@mercedesbabel1496 I think at one point they had a dog. I wonder what happened to it ...?
@Legacy20999
5 ай бұрын
@@cindynewburg4084 I think the dog passed away but I don't remember when. I'm 14 and I actually use to watch the 8 Passengers channel and sorta grew up watching it before things turned bad. Seeing all this stuff now I can't believe I actually use to watch them pretty often back then. I stopped following their channel whenever they sent C away to that camp and then took away his bed for months.
@margaretberryman6260
5 ай бұрын
@@cindynewburg4084 Too 'messy' for Ruby? I also wondered this. Poor pup.
@erinfitzgerald7789
5 ай бұрын
I think that the trauma the children experienced was not just during this time period. I think that they were abused their entire lives but it grew more and more brutal as time went on. The children also said that they did not have any friends when they were living at home. I think that the children were very isolated.
@joyfadele3104
5 ай бұрын
I agree but chad seems to be more social now I hope that for the rest too❤❤
@christinadiaz4349
5 ай бұрын
I wish as a grandmother I could just scoop them in my arms and tell them. Grandma is here. No one will ever hurt you again!
@milireich4195
5 ай бұрын
I feel the same
@Emie8230
5 ай бұрын
Exactly how I feel. My home is so loving! Just like my mom was with me. .
@TerriSpringer
5 ай бұрын
Just breaks my heart
@lubago
5 ай бұрын
You are sweet! But unfortunately now they will have to rewire their brain into trusting and believing that grandma’s can protect and love them because unfortunately both of their living grandma’s were out of their lives 😢
@madelinemahajan2808
5 ай бұрын
Children's trauma therapist here - Great Video- This will be a lifetime of healing work. EMDR therapy works miracles but a solid relationship with someone who is an expert in children and and child abuse will also be absolute key.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Glad to have some validation from someone who does this work specifically for a living! Must be a really tough job sometimes though
@BMarie774
5 ай бұрын
Start early. That’s what I have to say. As a child who went through some deeply dark shit, I was fine for most of my teen years. I had anger issues, but I didn’t think of my trauma. At 22 years old, suddenly I became severely agoraphobic, was having daily panic attacks, and debilitating mental health issues. All that trauma came flooding back. Don’t repress it. They need to be in therapy NOW.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Agreed, as you say, trauma response is not always predictable, but trying to get ahead of it can be really helpful. Thanks for sharing!
@nicolechampeau8432
5 ай бұрын
I have these odd fantasies about getting to be these kids foster mom, and getting to love them and feed them and help them heal. I think it's because R reminds me of my own son. I really hope these kids get the care they need to heal.
@Jalle6673
5 ай бұрын
I hope R & E get non-LDS counselors, foster home and permanent placement. I think the further they get away from LDS indoctrination, and mistreatment the better. I watched a recent & great video on Mornon Stories about how much many of Jodi & Ruby's beliefs, ideas, etc., are associated with LDS teacings. For instance, re: possession, evil spirits, etc. Those poor kids.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Some commenters have come in saying this is not LDS teaching, so idk what to make of it all, but I can agree with a change of environment in general
@jencendiary
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Girlscamp (a podcast by a former LDS member) and Mormon Stories (a podcast led by John Dehlin, who is has a Ph.D in Psychology and was excommunicated from the LDS church for some of his very valid criticisms of the church) did episodes on the topic. They're both very clear that some of the thought processes that lead to Jodi and Ruby's decisions are deeply rooted in LDS culture - if not theology.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@jencendiary that's a fair line to draw, that culture and theology may be different
@amyholman354
5 ай бұрын
I, too, hope they have non-LDS help, I would like them to get help outside of Utah, even, but that probably can't be arranged.
@Jalle6673
5 ай бұрын
@@jencendiary I haven't heard of Girlscamp. I will have to check that channel out.
@margaretdang6018
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for addressing this. As horrible as this case is, it is a wonderful opportunity to understand trauma and the possibilities therapy offers. 💕
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I'm hopeful this is an opportunity for us to speak openly about trauma and really have it made obvious that the symptoms that result are not the fault of the victim
@545linda
5 ай бұрын
that's one lucky kitty. so loved
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Or I'm a lucky cat owner
@MommyCassReborns
5 ай бұрын
so accurate. I hope they find the best fit in a therapist and live comfortable lives.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Really feel like they've had more than enough stress and hurt for the rest of their lives, right?
@MommyCassReborns
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day they deserve better. It's infuriating that people did this to them.
@irenez7439
5 ай бұрын
My biggest fear is what happened to the Turpin children. They went from one abuse to another. How can we be sure that the family they are placed with is a healthy family? Same with the therapist. Hopefully, they will both get loving families that help them heal, not more abuse. I want accountability from the people who get access to the children.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, idk the story with the Turpin children. I think that's what this kind of trauma can really do, make you question who you can really trust, who actually has your best interests at heart?
@darlenegattus8190
5 ай бұрын
Yeah
@caroliamurri3872
5 ай бұрын
Yes, the kids were called "it" along with horrific abuse..💔
@coralieelliott2076
5 ай бұрын
@@caroliamurri3872 also one child escaped and called the police to save the rest of the children. Unfortunately CPS put the children into a foster home that was almost as bad as the one they escaped from--The Turpin children are now suing CPS and the family they were in--no one checked on them and if they did they wrote that all was well
@rsh793
5 ай бұрын
I am so sad about these poor kids - working with people who have suffered horrible situations in their childhood, I can't even imagine how much work they are going to work through. I work with horses in my counselling work which works amazingly, so I hope maybe someone considers that as a possibility for them during their recovery. And I hope so much for their future health and wellbeing, they will find out in due course how much they are loved by the world and little R will see how we all see him as a hero when the time comes for his acceptance of this x
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It's a tough job you must have, but yes, I imagine animals may be helpful along their healing journeys, especially if people are hard to trust right now
@flooklh
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insightful view of how these kids can be helped. It all made sense.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I'm glad it did. Thanks for watching!
@mommalion7028
5 ай бұрын
Honestly given that Jodi was the one who multiplied their suffering I don’t know if they’ll ever be able to do anything with any therapist. Most of the key words for treatment are going to be triggers. Maybe sports ball or animal care is going to be the best thing for them.
@stephenreed9631
5 ай бұрын
Not necessarily true, the therapist can potentially gain their trust through repeated consistency, honesty, kindness, understanding, etc. It will take a while but can be done over time. Same as with the foster parent.
@dw3403
5 ай бұрын
Those kids need to be kids. They need to learn to play and laugh.
@countrycrossstitcher3573
5 ай бұрын
As someone doing my bachelors in counselling this was very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I think the kids will need to have a long term Counsellor and/or psychiatrist that they can go back to when needed over the rest of their childhood as much as possible. I think change in counsellors would cause unnecessarily fractures in their progress. They definitely need a Counsellor who will help assure them through all this that it wasn’t their fault
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! Good luck in your studies
@TheArcherette
5 ай бұрын
This really drives home how horribly those poor children were treated
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
The footage is really saddening
@MyrtleBeachWebAngel
5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Great idea for this awful situation.
@maryannchaisson6742
5 ай бұрын
Love, Love that kitty! 🇨🇦❤️🌹🇨🇦
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@daniellerichards6838
5 ай бұрын
It was actually 4hours that E sat there. If you look at the time stamps you can see that the police arrived at before 12 and E didn’t move until after 3pm.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Wow that's really scary what must have been done to her for any child to just sit somewhere doing nothing for 4 hours.
@yankeecitygirl
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day even worse...the journals indicate that E demonstrated a lot of spirit and resistance, and most of all...insight...during an extremely challenging time.Six weeks later we see the result of consistently applied torture: this emaciated, zombiefied little creature. If her mother ever wakes up to what she did to her daughter, she will never be able to forgive herself.
@vitazissel3671
5 ай бұрын
i just saw the little ones elbows pointing out at the start, my heart broke again for these children.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Those are really heartbreaking scenes to see
@mmsmar
5 ай бұрын
I just realised, these two kids, that were imprisoned in the house - they were not missing from school? There were no teachers wondering why these kids have not arrived to school ?
@GWNorth-db8vn
5 ай бұрын
They were "home schooled", Jodi style. Utah has "free range parenting" laws that don't require parents to do much of anything for their kids.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's really sad to hear
@sandyjay276
5 ай бұрын
The worst part of the abuse happened over the summer so they were on break
@SaraKosiorek
5 ай бұрын
Do you think they’d do better with a male therapist?
@MyrtleBeachWebAngel
5 ай бұрын
I noticed she didn't speak to the male officer, but was more responsive when the female came in to speak with her.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I noticed that as well. I think it's very hard to predict because trauma response is hardly ever predictable how it will show up. Would they be more willing to connect with a female because Ruby was the main authority in their lives, or would they be more hesitant of a female for the exact same reason? Hard to say without benefit of hindsight later on
@Aalisrocklist
5 ай бұрын
OMG your cat
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Lol glad you enjoyed him
@mindykepfield4555
2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Therapy2Day
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for supporting the channel! Glad you're here and watching
@joyandrews3804
5 ай бұрын
I’m concerned about all the publicity about this case. I worry for the children when they read everyone’s comments about them. Ruby invaded their privacy by posting everything. Now all the awful things that happened to them is common knowledge. Will these children ever get the privacy they need to heal? Will other people allow them to get to as close to a normal life as is possible? Not only did the abuse happen to them, now they have to get used to the fact everyone knows about it.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Someone else did mention an idea about them changing their names for that very reason! Definitely something I hadn't fully appreciated the implications of
@MarqueMyWords2442
5 ай бұрын
Do you think that their therapists will find delicate ways to bring up what happened to them to begin a conversation about it? Or do you think that they will wait for the children to speak about it when they want to? How head-on with their specific traumatizing experiences are therapists likely to be?
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do hope that their therapists can handle that carefully. There may be times early on where they don't even need to mention the specific trauma, just teaching them how they can feel their emotions and have that be ok.
@yankeecitygirl
5 ай бұрын
8:22 Do you think that the children knowing that this external authority - law enforcement, state statutes, etc. - that has removed their torturers from society will help them get grounded in reality? Surely by this time it has been explained to them that what the 2 perps did to them was very wrong, in fact, criminal behavior.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I hope it helps, but the trouble with some of these stuck points in PTSD is that they aren't necessarily grounded in rationality, but our fear response
@MyrtleBeachWebAngel
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2DayI think they are going to feel a tremendous amount of guilt for what happens to their mom. 🥀
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@MyrtleBeachWebAngel that may be true, and could be a lot of emotional pain to work through
@yankeecitygirl
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day oh this makes a lot of sense! I suffered PTSD for a while, and my stuck points were definitely not rational
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@yankeecitygirl yep if it were as easy as just saying "this belief isn't accurate," my job would be a lot easier
@lisaa3978
5 ай бұрын
The fact that none of the extended family has been given custody of any of the minor children tells you everything you need to know about that toxic family, and religion.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Things do seem to be moving slowly when it comes to custody; unless I missed the news somewhere
@MusicMan-j7w
5 ай бұрын
I love your videos! When you use “them” when referring to Jessi H, are you communicating to your viewers that you support the idea that a there are more than 2 sexes? Or are you simply being polite to Jessi?
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! That's a tough question to answer because of strong feelings on both sides. Let's say I'm generally trusting of people's experiences and want to be respectful of those experiences. I will hardly ever claim I have a better understanding of someone's story than they do, but I do have a lot of religious background that makes the concept somewhat foreign to me. I guess my short answer is, I hope I can be respectful and not just polite. And if it sounds like a non answer, it's because I don't have a good answer
@sadrabbit53
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day A rational response. At the end of the day, if you don't know which to do or which is "right," it's best to just be courteous and focus on your own business, imo
@simonen6160
5 ай бұрын
Voce e lindo
@JohannaVanWinkle
5 ай бұрын
I just hope that the specialist who will be working with these children are NOT Mormon!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I wonder what the ratio of Mormon to non-mormon therapists is in Utah...
@sharonstevek.6797
5 ай бұрын
E also doesn't move or fidget. This is sickening. Ruby also sits like this in the interrogation rm.
@joseedessureault329
5 ай бұрын
it is sooooo sad that they have to go in therapy at their age and for those reasons.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Definitely a tragic situation
@travelwithme7421
5 ай бұрын
Or her reaction might be because of her sister called authorities many times before they checked on kids and didn't take any action so it might be hard for her to trust she had no energy to face more abuse from her mom if the scenario turned other way or she might think she is sinful she seems quite overwhelmed with her feelings
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That might play a part in it as well. How many times had police been involved though? I know cps was called multiple times during the 8 passengers days
@travelwithme7421
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day oh no I'm sorry I meant CPS I forgot the word😅
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@travelwithme7421 lol it happens
@nataliehuntfox8772
5 ай бұрын
It pains me to see how thin and malnourished this child is 😞
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It is really almost unbelievable unless there were images and video
@deanwcampbell
5 ай бұрын
Therapy ToDay, Dude! loose the cat in your videos, that is so cringe.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Just having him around?
@SendMeToTheVoid
5 ай бұрын
Your cat is so freaking adorable❤
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
😸 thanks
@jgalexy140
5 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the two middle children who lived with Ruby. They will have to face the challenges of secondary trauma as witnesses to their mother and Jodi’s treatment of their siblings. They probably feared that the same thing could happen to them if they stepped out of line.
@MarqueMyWords2442
5 ай бұрын
You make a very good point. The two middle children, J & A, are both mentioned in Ruby's journals as having been at Jodi's place for extended periods of time (especially J) that summer. I have wondered what they thought as they witnessed their little brother and sister being so horribly abused. Were they brainwashed to believe that what was happening was okay and how might their experience affect them going forward? Will they deal with terrible guilt for not recognizing the horrific situation and helping to end it? They are also victims here that will need therapy.
@loridavis5699
5 ай бұрын
Also the oldest children! All 6 were abused
@darlenegattus8190
5 ай бұрын
@@loridavis5699 yes but They are adults.
@PaulineTownsend-j4z
5 ай бұрын
They maybe adults but they were also abused as children not to the extent of the younger ones but abused never the less.
@darlenegattus8190
5 ай бұрын
@@PaulineTownsend-j4z absolutely but therapy seeking is now on them.
@bigk5837
5 ай бұрын
Former Mormon here with a traumatically similar story. So glad I escaped and honestly therapy is a long, long, LONG term thing. Wish I had seen something like this many years ago, wish my many siblings would have had this chance at healing when they escaped our abusers too, wish they'd be open to it now after all these years. Some wounds never heal. The Mormon church has so much to answer for in terms of their disgusting protection of abusers. So sad to see it goes on to this day.
@caroliamurri3872
5 ай бұрын
Happy that you spoke your truth... Wish you all good things.
@222radar
5 ай бұрын
I hope this is a final wake-up call for the Church.
@margaretberryman6260
5 ай бұрын
@@222radar 'Church'.
@nataliehuntfox8772
5 ай бұрын
You escaped? Did they hold you against your will? 😮
@lisak5804
5 ай бұрын
Religious trauma is hard to remove and heal from. God, the Bible, verses ...hymns can all be triggering.
@JulieAnne17-dn
5 ай бұрын
The two middle daughters who were found “helping Pam cleaning her house” would not speak to officers either!!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Must have been some messages about external authority figures
@Arcadia61
5 ай бұрын
To understand all this, you need to understand Mormon doctrine. It's all tied with that. From toddlerhood, children are taught to distrust the police, and government - all authoritative people outside their group. Within their group, obedience is rigidly enforced. Anyone working with these kids needs to have a deep understanding of their cult, preferably a former Mormon. Still practising Mormons would not be able to reprogram these children. Jodi Hildebrandt was a therapist and she was highly respected by the Mormon Church. Many of her clients were sent to her by the Church which also paid for much of the therapy if the individuals absolutely couldn't afford it. 'Mormon Stories' and 'Cults to Consciousness' do a great job explaining this.
@kendallneason3645
5 ай бұрын
Kids were told by their mother that the devil was controlling them and her and Jodi’s punishment was loving. Police would take them away and kids would be punished for speaking to them as they’d be giving in to the devil within them. It’s horrible to imagine the trauma all these children endured physically, mentally and emotionally. They were brainwashed by a pair of mentally ill parents and “ therapist” connected to a secretive and Culty church.
@elizabethrose9364
5 ай бұрын
I was a third generation practicing Mormon for years. I am 77 and have stopped believing but it is wrong to say we were taught to distrust government type authority when an article of Faith says we believe in honoring and obeying the laws of the land. My husband was career military (and a Bishop)and we have several friends who are policeman and have never seen this mindset. Where it becomes a problem is that we are taught to follow prophet’s teachings blindly (even if they are wrong), never question them or talk against them or our celestial future will be forfeited. Also, we believe children are born innocent of any sin. We “pay” for our own sins and not for Adam’s transgressions. I wish people would get these doctrines correct. These women, plus the Daybell types have to be mentally ill to begin with and become very dangerous when they twist teachings to satisfy their psychotic minds. The sexual sin stuff especially, and the church’s unwavering stance against anything they believe is next to murder plus “addiction” theories, LGTB tendencies, and the admonition to follow the prophet as he will never lead anyone “astray” etc is the most dangerous part of this religion. Just waiting for people like Jodi in particular, to use it to their sick advantage.
@lubago
5 ай бұрын
I believe Julie was answering the police about her playing volleyball and her work until Abby got up and whispered something into her ear.
@kimalonzo3363
5 ай бұрын
As far as their mom was concerned, the kids never gave the right answer. 😢
@trishayamada807
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. They were always in a no win situation. Her and Jody didn’t want them better, they wanted more excuses to torture them. They were excited to get them alone in Arizona.
@pamelacox540
5 ай бұрын
“Defiant” if they gave the wrong answer; “sneaky” if they gave the right answer. Those horrible women tortured children while they remained well fed and comfortable.
@carolyn6288
5 ай бұрын
Those children were props, nothing more, she viewed them as props on a stage where she is the star, nothing else mattered to her
@jomc6734
5 ай бұрын
Based on interviews I've seen with Jessi Hildebrandt, they said that the answer given wouldn't matter. They could give the answer Ruby/Jodi wanted, but then Ruby or Jodi would move the goalpost.
@blackalien6873
5 ай бұрын
Because sadistic violence was always the goal. These children were on the road to death. Ruby and Jodi were never gonna stop until they died. The children had already been too abused to ever be exposed to other adults without Ruby and Jodi being arrested when their condition was seen. There was already no going back to normal.
@dgonz565
5 ай бұрын
They need a stable and loving family with other kids their age to help them understand and feel trust
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do wonder what peer relationships are like for them. Consistency and acceptance will be so important for them
@Bess9779
5 ай бұрын
Hopefully, a non-Mormon family. The kids can choose their own religious preference, if any, when they become adults.
@thedarkestkinghtstar
5 ай бұрын
@@Bess9779 I don't disagree. Just, I think it's important they know what a healthy relationship with religion looks like too. If they decide to go back into religion when older they need to look for a healthy one and not fall back into a cult one.
@anthill1510
5 ай бұрын
@@thedarkestkinghtstar There is a serious question if Mormonism is a healthy religion.
@juskittenaround
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Dayit has two parts. Over exposure from before Jodi on 8 passengers sprinkled with abuse. Part two) parents separate, direct abuse from mom and Jodi. No help from dad OR other adults in the ConnXtions group. Everyone was failing them at a time when you all you can do is rely on adults.
@JJbIrd0608
5 ай бұрын
I've been dealing with my own ptsd for 30 years, I can't even bear to think how traumatized they are. I wish I could take it away from them. My heart just hurts for them. 💔💔💔
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Wow 30 years is a long time to carry that. What's been helpful for you in your journey?
@JJbIrd0608
5 ай бұрын
@Therapy2Day honestly I became a raging alcoholic, I just didn't understand it. Internal Family Systems helps a ton. I have a frozen traumatized 24 yr old that's caused me to be hypervigilant for 30 yrs. My firefighters and managers are exhausted...I'm exhausted. I started ketamine therapy combined with a trauma psychiatrist about a month ago and the results have been good. My anxiety level has gone down a great deal and is very nice to have relief but man it's hard work.. I witnessed my fiancee have a gran mal seizure 2 weeks before our wedding. He ended up in a coma and died two days after we would have married.. 2 years later I had fallen in love again and this boyfriend died in a car crash on the way to the Renaissance Festival that I told him to go too. Exact same day, two years later. I have a lot of work to do. On a good note I haven't had a drink in over 9 years.
@222radar
5 ай бұрын
Yes. I suffered similar treatment (although...0.09% in-comparison) and live the continuous healing journey. I hope those kids get the unconditional love and support they need. I hope they can find it within themselves too.
@connieluke
5 ай бұрын
Your knowledge of the subject matter, sensitivity, and delivery are impressive. I adore your cat. They are shameless scene stealers. I know from personal experience ❤️🐾
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I do hope to continue maintaining a professional but compassionate attitude with these types of videos. And yes, cats just are the main characters all the time aren't they?
@silverdoe9477
5 ай бұрын
They need a hug from your lovely cat. ❤
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Haha he's too anxious to be outside. I'm sure they have some good animals out there too
@BangtanNoona
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your willingness to discuss this with respect, gentleness and of course kitty cuddles!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
The kitty cuddles come with most videos! I hope to bring respect and gentleness along to most videos as well
@thelostone6981
5 ай бұрын
My heart breaks for these kids and I hope they are able to heal the emotional wounds this experience has had to of left. I true hope they find the right people to help them navigate what has happened to them and that there is a lot of joy in their future.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Being surrounded by the right people will be super important, and even that doesn't mean a quick recovery
@christopher3d475
5 ай бұрын
The stages of moral development is fascinating. I was raised mormon, big time. My dad was actually one of the upper echelon education leaders. A significant aspect of mormonism is being obedient and following the rules, in order to avoid punishment. Mormonism doesn't directly ascribe to a simplistic heaven-hell modality typical of other Christian denominations. However, it's basically beaten into us that if we aren't obedient, we will 'suffer the consequences' of not being obedient, many of which were said to be eternal in nature. I could point you to various church conference talks, ones especially from the 1970s that I as a kid had to listen to and was scared to death by. But my primary unifying sense of growing up mormon, was one of fear and being scared of 'eternal consequences' for failing to be obedient. I was kinda damned in that sense because I was gay (and still am lol), and so I was in a catch 22 situation. I can tell you I had significant emotional trauma from my experience and seeking out therapy was really really difficult. Religious trauma is a very real thing and I really hope these kids have the very best of therapists to help them. They've also had outright torture which complicates things. The more I heard about the various things they were exposed to the more I'm concerned about their long-term outlook. I've spent a lifetime trying to recover from my experience.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! It sounds like a scary way to grow up, when a fundamental part of you is considered unacceptable to your religious community
@lindabartholomew6435
5 ай бұрын
Not true in my case.
@mindeloman
5 ай бұрын
I definitely think EF was scared to talk to police and EMS because she thought it a test by Jodi. Jodi fucked with their minds so much, she probably figured the moment she talks to these people Jodi has testing her, the more her punishment will ramp up. She was being cautious. Jessi talked about Jodi doing the same thing to them.
@MarqueMyWords2442
5 ай бұрын
I would bet that Jodi threatened her not to talk because Jodi knew that the police were on their way to her house, as evidenced by the fact that she had her attorney on the phone. That's why I think it's likely that E was under threat from Jodi.
@lizholden3939
5 ай бұрын
Growing up in my own abusive home, I believed my parents were right in what they did to me and times I actually told anyone else, I was punished for lying. Most of my day was spent monitoring where my parents were and their moods. It took years of therapy to believe my childhood was not my fault and heal the damage.
@yankeecitygirl
5 ай бұрын
The prosecutor said that after E was rescued, she was reluctant to tell her story because "it will interrupt my repentance process".
@flowerjpotter1629
5 ай бұрын
@@lizholden3939 I remember those feelings well where you are afraid of the slightest movement so you are constantly on watch. Also I remember carefully watching the breathing as that would tell me what the mood was. You turn into a nervous wreck.
@bettyknight4079
5 ай бұрын
The first officer made a mistake immediately by telling EF they had Jodi outside and won't she come out too. She was probably even more terrified when he said that
@vaunniethayer1484
5 ай бұрын
I have been watching the Mormon Stories podcast with John Dehlin for the past two years. I am not religious but I was curious. I wasn’t familiar with religious trauma until watching that channel and the Cult to Consciousness channel on You Tube. I recommend them both. From what I’ve learned this religion appears to be highly destructive especially when families take the fundamentalist route. The Mormon church had been recommending Jodi to couples and families for therapy for years. My understanding is that the church prefers that people not go outside the church even in cases of sexual assault by another church member. If you happen to fall outside their “normal”, you are faced with a dire choice; conform , cover up or leave. I don’t doubt that there are many good people who belong to this church, however it has some serious problems. I really hope these children , all of them, find the love and support they need.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting; you are probably more knowledgeable from these sources than I am. It's really difficult to hear a lot of people who are good and just living their lives, having their belief and religion questioned because of some really evil people doing things in the name of their religion
@vaunniethayer1484
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Thank you for your response. I agree that it is not logical or just to label a group based on the actions of a few. I think the issue is one of protecting the abuser in order to maintain a positive image. We have seen this happening with the Catholic Church over the years. I believe that this behavior is fairly common in many types of organizations, however it can be especially damaging in groups where abusive behaviors are justified in the name of a god.
@peggynorman3358
5 ай бұрын
your kitty says please quit talking and give me love, love.love...or you can talk as long as i get my love....lol
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I tried to split the difference as well as I could 🤣
@LoveTruth44
5 ай бұрын
I really do pray 😓🙏, with ALL my heart, that these kids get the RIGHT kind of help and make a FULL recovery, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I only just discovered what happened a few weeks ago and, while getting caught up with it all, all I've been able to do is think about them, cry and pray for them. 😞 I pray someone tells, each one of them, that it wasn't their fault! 🙏🏼 ...because 1 of the saddest things I ever read was, "Kids don't wind up hating who abused them, they end up hating themselves." (oftentimes) 😩💔
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's a pretty true statement, and I do hope they can find a more kind view of themselves in the future
@fasinger44
5 ай бұрын
Love your gentle manner and the sweet kitty. You are brilliant and articulate. I’m wishing you a wonderfully successful career.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your feedback, and well wishes!
@barbaratyks6398
5 ай бұрын
Love your channel. Good job. Kitty is beautiful
@michellea638
5 ай бұрын
.....omg! I adore your sidekick. 🐈❤
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
..I think I'm the sidekick...
@mammajamma4959
5 ай бұрын
I am very impressed with law enforcement and EMTs, very patient. They gave more respect than those children have ever witnessed. great vid, thanks so much!
@mammajamma4959
5 ай бұрын
I hope they get therapy animals!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I was also impressed with the way the first responders handled things, not trying to rush them along
@GWNorth-db8vn
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Everyone's focused on the horror story and not on how the victims can be helped to live a real life afterwards.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do appreciate the commenters who suggested the video idea. It's a tough topic, but needs to be addressed
@solitarymystic4672
5 ай бұрын
I hope they change their last name so that they are never reminded of this by narrow minded people
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't blame them. It'd be hard to always be associated with their mother's crimes and their hurt because the last name is recognizable
@solitarymystic4672
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day to be honest, I’m so sick hearing about that vile woman. I’m really glad you made a post about the kids. They deserve love, healing and attention. And I’m really concerned about how they are doing and where they are. Hope for the best for them.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@solitarymystic4672 glad I was able to provide a bit of a break from the focus on the adults who caused this situation
@ItsMeCheryl1231
5 ай бұрын
I can't even try to imagine what went on in the children's heads while all this was going on. Being told they were loved, while being tortured. Many have said that Jodi is VERY manipulative, and I think it was Jodi who told Ruby the kids were "possessed." At times, Jodi seemed to act like SHE was "possessed," which I think was an act to get attention. I saw a video where it was said that Jodi's parents were not very involved with their children. (I can't find it, but will come back and reference it if I do.) I understand that Ruby's parenting methods were very questionable before Jodi infiltrated their lives, but after, Ruby went off the rails. Besides therapy, I hope the children are with a family/families that have the skills these 2 need on a daily basis.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That whole language of possession got so problematic for them. I hope they get a chance to see themselves as something different
@mopanimickey1591
5 ай бұрын
You may have heard that on Mormon Stories interview with Jessi. It was an excellent interview.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@mopanimickey1591 sure was, definitely worth a listen
@ItsMeCheryl1231
5 ай бұрын
@@mopanimickey1591 I think you are correct. I know I've heard a couple of times, but didn't want to reference the wrong source.
@martiwalsh2069
5 ай бұрын
I pray these children do not fall between the cracks again. I pray they are in a truly loving home getting the proper care they so very much deserve.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree
@Lucysmama-vq4sx
5 ай бұрын
They need to be kept from their father Kevin too. He is just as Dangerous as ruby and Jodi. He's divorcing ruby but in court eyes ONLY. He believes in what they were doing.
@Nana_InCanada
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your compassion, empathy and gentleness when speaking about the children. When the 1st responder said "Jodi's outside, do you know Jodi?" could have been triggering for E. I am not saying the responder was insensitive at all! I think he was trying to help her feel safe, he was a stranger after all. Patience, stability, love, nurturing and a good therapist such as yourself will help the kids along the long path to recovery they are on. And yes, the therapist has to be in it for the long haul, it's going to take a lot of time and patience and changing therapists sometimes sets people back. Your kitty is adorable, very affectionate!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I think that the first responders just didn't know at first what they were walking into. Ooh yes commitment would be an important trait for a therapist to have in this case
@yayakelley7771
5 ай бұрын
This was so insightful. I’m so worried about these children. I believe that whatever household they are in leans more secular and not a Mormon family. The spiritual abuse is gonna take so much time to get over. Your kitty looks just like a kitty I had as a child. I named him butterscotch which was later reduced to butter and finally landed with butt.😂 Because of kitty new subscriber here! 👍
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback about the video, and for the laugh about your cat's name!
@rickhouse-ik8bu
5 ай бұрын
A chilled out cat is a good sign of a happy environment. I hope the children realize that they couldn't ever be right in their parents or Hildebrandt's eyes. They were always going to fail because of the narcissism of Ruby and Hildebrandt. They need to know that it was all rigged from the start.😢
@222radar
5 ай бұрын
Thankfully they are getting support now and don't have to live in-silence for decades with the trauma. And, thankfully, they are still Alive! Thanks be to R.!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do hope the support they get helps them to move towards a better life for themselves
@AnitaDavenport-v3s
5 ай бұрын
The mom claimed R sa E and others in neighborhood..also had watched porn at age 3. Doubtful
@joyandrews3804
5 ай бұрын
I think the children were forced to admit to things they didn’t do. They thought the torment would stop if they agreed to the accusations put to them. So on and on it went.
@jodibraun6383
5 ай бұрын
Given that Utah is 90% Mormon, and given that the abuse here rotated around religious beliefs which are rooted in Mormonism, how do you think being put into a Mormon foster home will affect these two? I can't imagine it would be good & I can't help but hope that they have been placed with a non-Mormon home.
@idegteke
5 ай бұрын
I’m surprised this comment is not YET deleted. Cults have long hands.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I think religion could potentially be a touchy subject for these kids for a long time. Not sure how they would react, honestly
@doneestoner9945
5 ай бұрын
I agree.
@Melly.K11
5 ай бұрын
From what I've been reading, Utah isn't actually Majority Mormon anymore. I've heard different ranges, but more recent studies saying around the 42% mark. And of that percentage, only 1/3 are active in the church and practicing. Obviously there will be pockets in the state that have a higher number of those actively practicing, but one would hope that they would be able to find a foster home where there isn't a heavy focus on religion. Especially since religion was essentially used as a weapon against these poor kids.
@JoanSimmons-u4w
5 ай бұрын
Utah is no longer 90% of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and all members are not abusive. To categorize in that way is overall not appropriate. There are non-members who are abusive. The focus should be ensuring that the care takers have the character required to provide foster care.
@patobryan7745
5 ай бұрын
Ruby said something very strange when she was talking to Kevin on one of her jailhouse calls. She said she is not a naughty person. She doesn't do naughty things. It sounded almost childish. I can't help but think Ruby's upbringing played a big part in who she is and why she did what she did. Her parents wrote a letter to the Judge asking him to show her mercy when sentencing her. I think the entire family needs serious therapy but they're too entrenched in the Mormon religion for that to ever happen. I think Ruby's parents and Ruby, herself, said what they think everyone wanted to hear and hope it will all go away in a short time. Maybe Ruby's older kids will begin to see just how damaged the adults are and begin to research and explore outside help away from the church.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I commented on that maybe regressive language in my phone call reaction video. Have no answers for you on that score, but plenty of other commenters had theories
@doneestoner9945
5 ай бұрын
Love the kittie ❤🐱
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@OldSoul279
5 ай бұрын
Even though they have the two oldest as role models that resisted the abuse and rejected the parents, they were abused at a much younger age.. They were more vulnerable. I hope they can have therapy that includes all the siblings without Kevin.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do wonder whether a group setting or individual might be more beneficial
@TheAngryKilljoy
5 ай бұрын
What effect if any do you think it will have if they are placed with another family? I feel like the church really needs to excommunicate Ruby and Jodi and make it clear that the abuse they suffered isn’t part of the religion and that the church supports them. If not I think it could damage them even more 😔
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Hard to say; trauma response is really unpredictable. Many other commenters have said that some kind of public statement would be really helpful, and I think it goes beyond just this case to also speak to other victims about whether this religion is safe for them
@mareekatz
5 ай бұрын
Totally off topic but, wow your cat really loves you....can u tell me more about him ??
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Haha we adopted him from my wife's brother, and he has huge anxiety about other people. He was actually slow to warm to me. And he uses the toilet instead of a litter box
@Becca-oi1hq
5 ай бұрын
You would make the perfect therapist for these kid!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's kind of you to say! It would be such a sad case to take on, and I really hope they get connected with someone ready for the challenge
@e.k.4508
5 ай бұрын
Having a pet (also cats in our case) really helped my kids through lots of anxious moments. They give unconditional love and can be petted and cuddled. If the cats are not anxious themselves😅
@Legacy20999
5 ай бұрын
I also have a cat in my lap right now. I'm home sick from school today.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I hope the cat helps you feel better!
@Legacy20999
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day The cat has been following me around everywhere today and hasn't really left my side all day. It's like he knows
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Oh they know. Some just don't care 😸
@G14-Classified
5 ай бұрын
They need a stable family with a backbone that will stick up for them and right now I don’t believe that is Kevin.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Feelings about Kevin seem to trend negative right now. I can understand why people would not be convinced about his ability to parent right now
@G14-Classified
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I understand that he seems to be at least financially abused by Ruby but until he gets proper help for what he’s been through he doesn’t need to have the kids imo. They need someone who is strong and can show them love and compassion along with normal discipline.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@G14-Classified you're right that him potentially being a victim doesn't automatically qualify him to raise the kids. I haven't heard anything about custody at this point though
@G14-Classified
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I haven’t heard anything either, I did hear in Utah you only have 90 days to regain custody if that is so it’s past the 90 days and the kids will go into foster care. I also don’t think Ruby’s family should get custody because they all have their families on KZitem and I know nothing of Kevin’s family.
@M11969
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2DayHe doesn't have custody of any of the children. I also wonder about the two middle daughters. Obviously the attention has been focused on R and E, but there were two teenaged girls who were mostly left alone in Springville while Ruby was in Ivins. Ruby's jpurnal sometimes mentions them being at Jodi's home, I know J was there when R escaped the 1st time. How would their therapy differ?
@tamicox990
5 ай бұрын
I feel like they went through things similar to those in the Holocaust. I wonder their end game- they could never let the kids go free or they would tell.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It's really scary how much these kids have been put through
@lccsd2392
5 ай бұрын
Being the youngest in a family where the parents were both narcissists and both enablers 17:15 is so true. My siblings and I still have the need to be listened to or 'heard' properly because often as a child we felt our words to be deliberately misunderstood and used against us.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
So sorry you had that experience. I hope you're able to find that for yourself now
@Alayhoo
5 ай бұрын
I LOVE the way you structured this video and the information you shared! It’s like a window into your process as a therapist and all the various factors you have to considered and how they correspond with treatment options. It’s educational and feels emotionally validating!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! It is more organized than most of my videos, so I'm glad that was noticed and appreciated!
@Alayhoo
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Lots of people noticed! I watch several therapist YT creators regularly and your content around this case has been consistent and unique in that it doesn’t reiterate what’s already been said by others. From what I’ve seen, you’ve been filling a gap in the general discourse about this case and I think that really shines through in all the comments and engagement on these videos. High five! 🙋🏻♀️
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@Alayhoo 🙌 thanks so much for your support! That blows my mind that everyone seems to repeat one another. I guess the original lines of thought have to start somewhere 🤷♂️
@kendallneason3645
5 ай бұрын
I’m so tired of parents using religion and cults to abuse their children and permanently traumatize them. We may never know all the abuse all the kids endured. I hope time and healthy relationships will help them all. They need kindness and love and privacy to heal. Each abusive woman must be mentally ill and I think the father seems disconnected and more interested in his wife than his children!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely there's no excuse for abuse and torture. I do hope for healing for the kids
@patobryan7745
5 ай бұрын
I just found your channel and have been following the Franke case since the arrest of Jodi and Ruby. I started to read some of the comments as I was curious what others were thinking about this case about what was done to EF and RF. Here is my opinion of this whole situation. I believe the Mormon church is at the forefront of this case. Jodi and Ruby are what you might consider zealots but it was Mormon bishops who delivered victims to Jodi over the course of almost two decades. Ruby was pretty much always a crappy Mom and it was her Mormon upbringing that allowed her to go off the rails with the way she was raising her children. This is generational so it would be no surprise if her entire family has demonstrated or behaved in a similar way at some point, and that includes her parents. While they may voice they are appalled with Ruby's behavior and criminal abuse of her children, you can't tell me they didn't know well before Jodi came along Ruby was abusive towards her children. I look at this case similar to the Catholic priests. The church kept trying to cover up the abuse by the pedophile priests until it was so rampant and more and more victims were coming forward with their cases, the church had to appear to be shocked it was happening right under their noses. But, they knew for decades it was going on. The church moved priests from one parish to another to avoid criminal charges and to halt the spread of implicating the priests. The Mormon church is doing the same thing with this case. They haven't said one word about this case in public that I am aware of and they're hoping to just sweep it under the rug until another case like this gets in the news, and it will. Until victims come forward and make it universally known the church condones this behavior, it will continue and even then, like with pedophile priests, it will still continue but at least its well known and maybe the result will be more will leave the church and others will never join. I left the Catholic church not just because of the priests but because I don't believe there is some higher power in the universe, like a God. I am sick and tired of people using a fantastical figure named God who controls all of us. It doesn't exist. I think at the end of the day, EF and RF will leave Mormonism and never look back. It may take awhile for them to get there but I think it will help them heal in the best way possible.
@foxibot
5 ай бұрын
I just read Chad the oldest that went to that camp when Jodi was his counselor was made to 900 bucks a month so I hope he sues her estate for the money. I wish he had a good peeosn looking out for him so he can get his money before her lawyers eat it up.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
900/month?? Where was a kid supposed to get that kind of money?
@foxibot
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I guess he was working a Job, so that would mean every penny to that grimy horrid witch. It’s online if you want to read about it. I’d send it to you. But I’m sick and I would have to look it up. But if I feel better I’ll try and find it. That shows how crazy his parents were to make him do that, that leaves no money for him and he still has to pay taxes on money he earns, I so hope he civilly sues her estate, but am afraid he won’t get anything unless he does it ASAP.
@foxibot
5 ай бұрын
I think 20 hrs a week is around 400 or just above so he could make that working full time, in a summer job.
@GradKat
5 ай бұрын
I do hope the children will be OK. This case is so harrowing. The little girl sitting on the floor refusing to speak is one of the saddest things I’ve seen.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It is a really tragic story
@lisak5804
5 ай бұрын
I remember my art professor in college saying teachers need to allow kids to color outside the lines...and this kind of applies to these kids... learning they are safe if they color outside the lines. Its still a safe environment and on paper but there's no harsh punishment if they dont. I feel like they were never allowed to color outside the lines so to speak.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's a really helpful illustration. Or when they get older, learning when to do one or the other
@lisak5804
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day he could tell which one of us colored within the lines just by our hesitancy and not wanting to explore and express
@1WFran
5 ай бұрын
I hope these children find some kindness now. I really appreciate your perspective that the potential therapist will need to be ok about taking time to allow the children to find trust in the world as well as themselves. Their futures will rely on the right therapist now as there is unlearning to do before rebuilding. I hope they are going to be ok
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I hope so too. Thanks for watching and commenting
@darlenegattus8190
5 ай бұрын
I pray they are ok down the road but idk... It's a lot of trauma. A lot!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It really is
@LattaTea
5 ай бұрын
They may benefit from making their own choices, that would help them regain their individuality, their own voice, bring back their humanity.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Agreed, and slowly understanding that their choices are not inherently wrong
@sandradoan2964
5 ай бұрын
You need to review the 8 Passengers video series. Ruby and Kevin were intrusive, controlling, and psychologically abusive.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I don't doubt it
@Velvetfish2
5 ай бұрын
What about the trauma of the two older middle teenaged girls? They may have watched or may have passively/actively helped their mother to abuse their younger siblings. Rubys diary seems to bring the 4 children together.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's true that some of the older kids might likely experience trauma from being treated similarly or being involved in the abuse unwittingly. I guess since the case is primarily about the two youngest, I didn't think to include the siblings as much in my conceptualization
@lharris151
5 ай бұрын
I feel like that this torcher was delivered by their own mother, makes it so much worse. The confusion of loving this person who is harming you. So sad.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's part of what might make the abuse so much more difficult, because there are competing beliefs about what a mother should be, what an abuser is, what it means to love someone.
@jokich6379
5 ай бұрын
Both of them, in the transcripts, showed a bit of defiance while going through this abuse by Jodi and Ruby. Perhaps that bit of fight they had will make them rebound. Hope so. Read Dave Pelzer’s autobiography “A Boy Called It”. Very traumatic.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
It's possible, there was clearly the spark that sent R looking for help
@ronniehartley-savill7203
5 ай бұрын
Do you think the Franke kids would one day benefit from meeting Jesse?
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Interesting question, I don't know if it would necessarily be helpful treatment wise, but it could be validating to be able to meet and hear stories from people who have shared a similar experience
@janetturner8677
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Loved the teaching style of this podcast!! Can I have some more, please? 😊
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely, just check out the playlist on the end screen!
@fortyseventhronin
5 ай бұрын
I swear the I was almost moved to tears by the first responders just sitting quietly with EF for nearly four hours until she was ready to stand up and walk out on her own
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
What a sad part of the story
@mm7365
5 ай бұрын
Both women threatened the kids that they may go to jail for being bad, how sad the police show up and have no idea what is going on. This little girl saw this as a punishment and not a rescue.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Yeah what a twisted way to keep the kids from getting help
@lucyhartnett
5 ай бұрын
All 6 of them need to be allowed to heal from her and her "friends" and sure non of them will ever want to see a "therapist" again
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's what I'm scared of, that the kids have been turned off to people who might try and be able to help because of how it was twisted for them
@Katliott
5 ай бұрын
Kudos to the first responders to this case and your thoughts on this as a professional is very interesting
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Those first responders had such a tough situation to walk into
@KarrianneGrove-le5pf
5 ай бұрын
I hope these kids are a lot better home now getting the treatment they need and getting food and fed well and gaining weight and getting healthy
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
At the very least, I hope for that for them, that their basic needs might be met
@bowievision8291
5 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
@AllyssaButhmann
5 ай бұрын
I have a TON of medical issues and related medical mental health triggers. For example, about a year ago, I witnessed a box truck take an exit ramp too fast, tip over, and skid to a halt. I had a near panic attack and guilt for not stopping, even though I was on the opposite side of the road, others had already stopped, and the box truck driver had quickly gotten out. It all happened so fast. I was already on my way to therapy, and I couldn’t shake the feelings of guilt for not stopping and helping, even though I couldn’t do much to help. When I got to therapy, my therapists and I have been using Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing(EMDR) to help process my anxiety. In the case of the box truck crash, it wasn’t that event triggering my anxiety; it was the way the lights had flickered and flipped with the vehicle. It was a similar pattern to when I needed imaging, while hospitalized. I spent two weeks inpatient with COVID. During day 4 or 5, I had to be taken down to imaging for a CT and X-ray. I was on 15 liters of oxygen per minute, and my auxiliary tank, attached to the transport bed had run out, and I couldn’t breathe. I told the nurses and techs around me that I couldn’t breathe, something was wrong, and I got ignored. When I said that I was dying, and that my deceased grandma was at the foot of the CT scanner bed, the team freaked out. When they got a pulse oxygen monitor on me, my O2 was at 78%. I was quickly hooked up to the main hospital oxygen supply, and given a full face oxygen mask to help get my numbers back up. The way they were scrambling over me, blocked the light in a specific way, and the box truck headlights had a similar pattern, as it was crashing. It took a while, but EMDR helped me access that memory, reprocess both my experiences, and put it together that my anxiety was from a past trauma, and nothing really to do with the truck crash. I wouldn’t have gotten there, without modalities like EMDR. It’s time consuming, but it really works.
@viola1426
5 ай бұрын
Great video, new subscriber!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad to have you as part of the community!
@Kiddly3000
5 ай бұрын
I wish the best for these kids I grew up in a home of abuse from my father who did not talk about God or Jesus unless he was drunk or having a paranoid schizophrenia moment, we as always were told never to trust anyone not ourselves or even him especially the cops and teachers.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for speaking from your experience, that must be scary to be told you can't trust anyone
@Kiddly3000
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day at 38 years old I have slowly learned to trust but I always double think before trusting someone
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