*Happy Monday everyone! I hope this how to heel toe downshift video helps you out!*
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
That is the slow motion demonstration part, just to show the sequence of events with not all things happening at once. You are right technically.
@VAspeed3
6 жыл бұрын
I know you know how to do it in a real car, but on the sim rig, you blipped the gas before you depressed the clutch, which would have bad results on the track!
@richardclegg5853
Жыл бұрын
Trying to learn the technique, I've watched about a dozen of these, yours is easily the clearest explanation / demonstration... still might take me a year to become proficient, but I at least get it now!!! Thanks so much for sharing your skill, amazing!
@xkrnxboix
6 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing I would like to comment regarding the procedure.... You did it correctly while at full speed but not when you were slowing things down and doing one step at a time. Make sure you press the clutch BEFORE you add gas to 'blip/rev match".
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I feel like all my examples were executed like you said? Maybe I messed up somewhere lol. There was an instance in there where I was slowing, and shifting, but not executing a heal toe :)
@NikaHollywood
6 жыл бұрын
On those last couple you pushed the clutch in before even braking. One thing I notice a lot of heel toe instruction videos say is to press the brake, then clutch and blip immediately, but that is totally dependent on the braking zone. You may be on the brake for several seconds before needing to downshift. At that point you clutch, blip, shift, clutch out quickly, but don't confuse pressing the brake pedal as being part of that fast process. It actually makes it easier to think of that way. Downshifting while you are standing on the brake.
@AquaStevae
4 жыл бұрын
Your split camera should show your feet/pedals and the other camera view should show the tach, not your profile... How do you demonstrate rev matching, when we can't see the revs???
@hammer86_
6 жыл бұрын
One of the best "how to heel toe" videos I've seen. I have the Cusco pedal cover too, which makes it a lot easier with this car, but I still struggle with it. My blooper video shows me spinning out due to a mismatched downshift (5th to 2nd /facepalm), and I still chirp the back wheels occasionally due to not enough blip. But it feels great when you pull it off. I did a ride-along with an instructor and was amazed at how every downshift was perfectly matched. Goals. One thing I would add is the importance to keep consistent brake pressure during the maneuver or else you will unsettle the car.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It is definitely hard to perfect. Good point on the braking, it is very easy to bobble the brake pedal while trying to shift to the gas. I've done both things you have mentioned and actually spun the car (my BMW) because of letting out the clutch without enough throttle blip! :D
@hellcat320
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been driving standard for 15 years (all my driving life) i started learning to heel toe after about probably 5 years. I find now i heel toe everyday at almost every corner. once you master it its one of the best, most rewarding parts about driving standard. The BRZ i just picked up i find the gas pedal a little low and its a bit tricky when you arent mashing the brakes to get your foot to the gas i think ill look into getting that spacer to bring it up a bit that would help alot. thanks for mentioning it.
@TheBTRGarage
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I agree on these cars it is kind of tough with the OEM pedals. The Cusco pedal helped a lot for me. My BMW however, has great OEM pedals for heel/toe.
@aravartanian7578
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you have to do something like heel-toe to drive properly in day-to-day driving. Forget race tracks for a moment. Say you in an every day situation where you are going downhill and a turn is approaching and you need to downshift. You don't want to have your foot entirely off the brake while you put the clutch in to shift and foot on the throttle to rev match as you'll lose all your engine braking and suddenly begin rolling down the hill faster, feeling a little out of control. Without heel-toe your best bet is to basically be in neutral through the turn if you can't get into a low enough gear and then pick it up after the turn, but that's not ideal driving.
@hellcat320
4 жыл бұрын
@@aravartanian7578 yah like i was kinda making that point as well. it just makes you a better overall driver on the street or the track
@SpiritBRZ
Жыл бұрын
literally my exact issue. i heel toed once when doing a spirited mountain run with a couple friends. when it comes to turns and mashing your breaks, heel toe is easy, but otherwise its really hard in the BRZ
@sarkology
5 жыл бұрын
When shifting from 4 to 3 then 2, you didn’t release the clutch pedal in the 4 to 3 shift as you mentioned but still blipped the throttle. I believe that blip is unnecessary. The engine and flywheel are not engaged with the transmission with the clutch pedal depressed obviously. So that blip didn’t help your shift from 4 to 3. And also not rev matching because the clutch pedal wasn’t released. Only that second blip was needed from 3 to 2, that’s when the rev matching happened
@littlebits6231
5 жыл бұрын
I think you actually need to rev the engine to put the shifter in a lower gear even if you are pressing down on the clutch. Its a safety mechanism so that drivers are less likely to accidently lock up the wheels. But in this case, Justin could of also simply shifted from 4th to 2nd and given only one larger blip
@ipo7596
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. He should've lifted the clutch as well from 3 to 2. Try watching Keiichi Tsuchiya 3.5 MT video. Better demo.
@simplereefer
2 жыл бұрын
So smooth! Great video one day I hope to heel toe just as well.
@TheBTRGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Just takes practice!
@headlesnorseman701
6 жыл бұрын
If you are having trouble keeping the brake pressure consistent. I’ve always done it backwards from this... heel on the brake pedal. Feels a lot more natural to apply brake pressure with your heel and gas with toe, and getting the braking correct is the important part of this. I think i saw a nascar driver do it this way when i was a kid and I was determined to learn.
@hdbhehddbz
6 жыл бұрын
Cool tutorial dude! I think you missed one thing... If you were doing it like a pro, you'd shift your left foot to the brake after the downshift so you can use your brakes to control weight distribution. It's on another level and not a lot of drivers can do it well. Check out some old Group B rally vids. God level!
@Brian-uq6jm
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I'm in no way great at heeltoe downshifting, but i wouldn't blip the throttle until i've disengageed the clutch. Yeah everything happens pretty quickly but that doesn't mean order doesn't matter.
@MyGoToUserName
6 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my 17 86 and I've put 500km on it so far[odo at 650kmh]. I'm still breaking in the engine so i've been practicing heel toe and shifting techniques in the meantime until I can get into the pedal. It's a little difficult with the stock pedals but I'm finding it quite a lot of fun. I did the Mtec clutch spring which I found helped me as I am used to heavier clutch pedals. Anyways enjoyed the video thanks.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, congrats on the new 86! It is a bit tricky with the stock pedals, unless you have really big feet/shoes. I would recommend the Cusco pedal cover myself. Makes the process a lot more simple amzn.to/2lzK4o1
@shortroundChris
6 жыл бұрын
The hardest part for me in my e36 is keeping consistent braking when I'm trying to roll over to the gas.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Yep, same with me!
@genericfishbowl8528
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Heel toe is mostly used on the track under hard breaking, as you probably already know, which minimizes the jerking a lot of people get when trying to heel toe. Just my opinion from experience
@TheBTRGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Yep I would agree with that. Gets really hard when you just have to breath on the brakes but still need a downshift.
@genericfishbowl8528
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBTRGarage i think if you're lightly breaking, you may aswell stay in gear since you're probably just on the thin line of needing to downshift shift anyway tbh. That's just me though so I keep a more consistent rhythm when driving.
@idrismoore690
3 жыл бұрын
Hi folks have a holiday in the UK with a rental and you will learn transmission over two days. 😄
@TheBTRGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Haha so true! When I visited some years back, I was amazed that automatic cars are so rare, compared to the US 👍
@They_drew_first_blood
4 жыл бұрын
I've watched about four videos before this one and this vid is the easiest to understand. Great job. I'm gonna practice in my S2000 in an empty high school parking area since everything is abandoned right now during the Coronavirus.
@buisthebot2487
4 жыл бұрын
so you blip and down shift at the same time? and also whats the diffrence between heel and toe a regular downshifting is heel and toe only for corners
@TheBTRGarage
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the blip + downshift is kind of one action but you need to time the clutch action accordingly as well. The clutch is really the important part. A heel + toe downshift is simply to rev match the engine to the wheel speed. If you don't do that and just let out the clutch, the wheels will lock up because the engine speed is much slower than wheel speed.
@elfferich1212
6 жыл бұрын
Could you explain why you first blip and then disengage clutch? Why not the other way around as otherwise the engine will not be able to rev higher because it is connected to the rest of the drivetrain. EDIT: I noticed how you only done this with the sim.
@youtubestudent6484
4 жыл бұрын
No need to make it complicated. It's just called rev matching. Do it fast and accurately however you feel comfortable.
@eeean1025
6 жыл бұрын
The problem i face is i literally cannot reach the gas while i do this, my heel either hits the side of the footwell or i simply cannot depress the gas enough to properly rev it. I tried differnt shoes and it didnt really help. Its like the placement of the pedals is not setup for it. I have no problem rev matching and double clutching, i just cannot for the life of me do it all in one motion.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Ian Champion It is indeed difficult with the stock pedal setup. I would try out the Cusco pedal cover I have linked in the description.
@coced
5 жыл бұрын
i adjusted my seat position just a little closer the the wheel than you think it should be, that got my heel closer to the pedal i also made it an habit to lift my foot off the carpet on braking Now i can do it with any shoes or boots
@adamterwilligar7673
6 жыл бұрын
Your shuffling back and forth at the beginning of the video kills me inside just a little lol.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Haha, sometimes I wonder if it is too much. I am mostly trying to not stand boringly still, but thanks for the feedback!
@idealizedreality802
3 жыл бұрын
what a dumb thing to be bothered by
@nsboogie9059
3 жыл бұрын
your irl pedals look like the logitech g29 pedals lol
@budnovich
6 жыл бұрын
Man got me a Scion FR-S 1.0 . I got small feet, little harder for me. Lol
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
That can make it a little more tricky for sure lol. Try out the Cusco pedal cover if you really want to try and get better at it. That will help a bit : amzn.to/2lzK4o1
@littlebits6231
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Im still trying to learn this in my 86 but I'm struggling with the foot placement. Idk if its becsuse my foot is too big (size 10) but when i turn my right foot to reach for the accelerator while braking, my heel hits the "wall" before i can press down on the accelerator :/
@TheBTRGarage
5 жыл бұрын
It takes some practice for sure. Try just rolling your right foot toward the accelerator and hitting it with the side of your heel. I have size 10.5 shoe size as well. I found it much easier to heel toe with the Cusco pedal cover on this car. My BMW pedals, in contrast, make it easy with the stock pedals. amzn.to/2lzK4o1
@littlebits6231
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBTRGarage Thanks for the advice! I'll keep practicing for now and I'll order the pedal cover if I still can't get a hang of it
@brentpoteet8775
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely one I need to practice. Great video and thanks for sharing!
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
A good skill to have! Hopefully this helps you out :)
@VIDEOHEREBOB
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@junwuzhang317
4 жыл бұрын
Clutch in before rev-match maybe?
@erickhan6349
6 жыл бұрын
You can use this on the road too
@dambaim5213
4 жыл бұрын
.. break clutch gas or brake gas clutch?
@TheBTRGarage
4 жыл бұрын
Brake, clutch, gas - the clutch is the key piece. Parts of the super slow mo are kind of confusing with the timing.
@AlexCr0ss
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Justin!
@future_phonk
5 ай бұрын
What wheel is that on the car? Mind if I get the wheel and tire spec as well? 🙏🏼
@TheBTRGarage
5 ай бұрын
Those are Wedsport TC105N in 17x9 +35. Tire at the time was Bridgestone RE71R in 245/40r17.
@future_phonk
5 ай бұрын
@@TheBTRGarage thank you!
@paoseyochan6314
6 жыл бұрын
It's not clear to me but if you can clear things up. Do I: 1) brake 2) clutch 3) shift 4) blip throttle or 1) brake 2) clutch 3) blip throttle 4) shift
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Paoseyo Vue Yiu Technically it could be either way. You just want to be sure that when you let the clutch out, that the revs are matched (throttle blip).
@ipo7596
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say it leans more to shift before blip. You gotta engage the down gear first then blip and then release the clutch. So: 1. Hold Brake 2. Clutch in 3. Shift gear 4. Blip gas 5. Clutch out 6. Release brake All done in swift smooth motion. Key part is making sure the clutch is fully depressed. Mind how much brake you also use. The blip also can vary from cars, you gotta practice it alot and find the blip that is smooth not much car jerking.
@kinghenry238
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that he gases before he clutches. Is this the best technique ? Would the revs only go up with the clutch in?
@TheBTRGarage
5 жыл бұрын
That was a slight error on the simulator when I was trying to do super slow mo. It has been talked about already, use the in car for best examples.
@jblack8149
6 жыл бұрын
Would an average person not into race cars have any benefit in an auto, like is it really a better option than auto? Seems like a lot of work, tho sometimes fun.
@tooruckruck5888
6 жыл бұрын
i have a problem of overbraking while blipping the gas...when i blip, it forced my toe to brake harder..somebody fix me
@tomezhao
6 жыл бұрын
Why did you blip the gas when you haven't even press down the clutch yet? Wouldn't that ruin your brakes cause your giving gas while braking while if you clutch in first you won't ruin your brakes when you blip
@samuelbrenham9905
6 жыл бұрын
Okay.then what is the difference between heel toe and dual clutch
@chanhuor
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, i think I requested this 2 vids prior. I'm confused in the beginning you said break gas than clutch. Later it was break, clutch, gas. Still working on the repetition down first before attempting this. You changed your rims. Let me know if your selling your RPF1 s lol.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Oops, sorry to be confusing. It can really be done either way, in fact the gas/clutch can be pushed in at the same time too. Basically you just need to time the release of the clutch with the revs of the engine when you blip the throttle. Those are the same Rota Titan's I've had for a while. I still use the RPF1's, they are lighter and a good bit stronger :)
@zixilu0131
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, what phone mount on you dash?😅
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's a mount from ProClip USA.
@rookietoprobuildz
6 жыл бұрын
I got to practice a lot ! A skill I want to know
@KenDoit
6 жыл бұрын
as always awesome video
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Ken D Thanks Ken!
@skaterzrule4
5 жыл бұрын
Putting that oil change link right on top Of the pedal cam was soo annoying lol
@gauravr168
6 жыл бұрын
Does this not damage the clutch as there's some overlapping of accelerator and clutch being pressed at the same time?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
T Recf No, it is no different than letting out the clutch naturally during a start or upshift.
@dancolt79
6 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have toate ask You something. IT would be ok to make an engine brake (lift the foot off the gas and when the revs go (and also the speed) down, push the clutch down and in the same time the gas??? Can i ommit the brake padel? Thank you
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Dan Colt Yes, you can absolutely do that if the speed to gear is right.
@David-xg3ex
6 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
David Hey thanks!
@bradnoah6626
6 жыл бұрын
Justin, nice video. Wondering though if you leave clutch in and go from 4th to 3rd and then immediately to 2nd, how is that any different than heel-to and rev match straight to 2nd from 4th? If the clutch never gets let out, your essential in neutral the entire time and the mechanism disengaged, right? I'm just starting to learn/practice.
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Brad Noah It isn't any different, you could go from 4th to 2nd directly if you were going the right speed. I often go from 6th into 4th.
@sweetcheels
6 жыл бұрын
My mustangs brakes are so grabby that soon as I try to heel-toe, the car is pretty much stopped already. Any advice?
@treerexaudi
5 жыл бұрын
ever figure it out?
@chuckmarshall6196
5 жыл бұрын
Look at my profile picture from ten years ago😀 I’m that kid in the middle with the pink jacket.
@thunderoth
6 жыл бұрын
cool. what shoes are those?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Cylin Gizmo Just a pair of Nike's 😁
@ROYALCHEETAHBOYD
6 жыл бұрын
thx
@davidperez4381
6 жыл бұрын
Can the same principles be applied in an AWD car?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Daveeddd4 Yes, of course. The car might behave a bit differently when you engage the clutch/gear on the downshift though. Since all 4 wheels will react versus just the rear wheels on a RWD car.
@itschaboid2489
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I thought you were brian in the thumbnail
@Drxpzsedenuff
6 жыл бұрын
If your in like 4th gear and your in low rpm and want to downshift is it ok to downshift without the brake??
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
devonte reeves Yes. It will help to match the throttle in the downshift.
@Drxpzsedenuff
6 жыл бұрын
Justin's Pit Lane ahhh okay thanks
@godspeed7963
6 жыл бұрын
Question. Where did you buy that phone holder?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
That is from ProClip USA, probably the best phone mounts I've ever used. Actually, they are the best I've ever used, have them in all my cars :)
@cookingwithberke6053
6 жыл бұрын
Great! All I need now is a car!
@ipo7596
4 жыл бұрын
SAME
@georgegarcia2575
6 жыл бұрын
Hope I've been doing this right haha
@tyuiopq1
6 жыл бұрын
6:08 you went to downshift but, u didnt release the clutch pedal fully. Wont that wear your clutch and defeats the purpose of an engine break? my bad still new to manual shift
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
John McNigga No, I talked about why I did it that way. Engine breaking is not the goal of heel toe, but rev matching the next gear.
@tyuiopq1
6 жыл бұрын
Justin's Pit Lane ah i see so its to match the wheel speed on the lower gear, so braking is the essential in the heel toe technique to slow down before a corner am i right? and heel and toe is used to rev match for a smoother and faster downshifting without losing much speed?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Fat Freddy Correct. Most importantly, the rev match is so you don't lock up the rear wheels when engaging the lower gear (otherwise you spin) 😁
@tyuiopq1
6 жыл бұрын
Justin's Pit Lane i see! thanks i finally understood the purpose of it! haha, im a gentle driver & i dont ride hard so my downshifts are always easy and the possibility to lock is 0.01% lol!
@headlesnorseman701
6 жыл бұрын
You don’t downshift to help you slow down. That’s what the brakes are for. You downshift so you are in the right gear when you get back on the power
@jblack8149
6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you have to heel toe when you were downshifting at 7:06!?
@TheBTRGarage
6 жыл бұрын
J Black I was not decelerating quick enough in that instance. So, just rev matching the gears as I slowed down.
@jblack8149
6 жыл бұрын
Ok thanx for the super fast reply. I have a couple more questions. Most people (I find pointless driving a stick as if you have auto) let the car coast to a stop in nutrel (spelled wrong I know). That is obviously not the best thing? I know for sure not in a semi, after being trained in a 10 gear. And also when you blip the throttle, does it have have to be the exact RPM of the gear or just a good tap would do?
@jawnnydoodlebob7387
5 жыл бұрын
why do you intentionally do it wrong on the sim, but correctly on the real thing. im surprised no one has caught this and complained about it. most likely because there were better videos than this and they followed those videos i guess
@TheBTRGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Actually people did catch that, if you read other comments. They also realized that I said "...blip our gas while *at the same time* shifting..." Go watch the other videos then...
@FollowMinksENT
6 жыл бұрын
the fact that he said..."you need not worry" He reads his bible...THE WORD OF GOD IS GREAT AND PERFECT...HALLELUJAH
@leoahearn7382
6 жыл бұрын
At speed, with double clutching thrown in for the fun of it! Lots going on here - kzitem.info/news/bejne/mG6ospykq2tmgpg
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