I heard that it is called a quarter staff because they would chop down the tree and then make 4 staffs out of one log, 'quartering' the the log, then turning each quarter on a medieval lathe.
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
9 жыл бұрын
In Southern Chinese martial arts a longstaff would be held at the very end. The Chinese have a saying: An inch longer is an inch stronger. The longstaff users generally attacked their opponents extremeties, mostly the hands though. The shorter Chinese staves were held at the middle for close quarter fighting. These staves had bronze heads on either side so you could hit harder.
@ellen5603
9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Salt True, I always wield my longstaff in just such a manner at shoe sales.
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
9 жыл бұрын
Ellen Lee I have a dirty mind. Also, nobody is even going to want to touch those shoes after you're done with them.
@zombieteenager007
9 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Salt "An inch longer is an inch stronger". Probably applies to more than just longstaves...
@zombieteenager007
9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Salt ORIGINAL JOKE. DO NOT STEAL.
@chubbyninja842
8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Salt Dang it! I came in way too late on this one. I was going to say "That's what she said". :)
@Apophii
8 жыл бұрын
I trained in Okinawan kobudo, and we *generally* hold the bo staff in the middle. Hand placement splits it into about thirds, which may be where some of the film influence comes from. I know that quarterstaff and bo staff aren't the same style, but Hollywood does not. Holding a staff in the middle CAN be a pretty effective technique, allowing for very fast alternating strikes though. I'd love to see a bo vs quarterstaff duel!
@GaveMeGrace1
5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure some folk could arrange that fascinating duel.
@faolan1686
9 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the bo and jo staff weapons of Okinawa were held and used in almost the exact same way. I just find it cool that peasants a world apart would come up, essentially, the same method of defending against someone with a sword.
@KurNorock
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I know. Old video, old comment, whatever. But no, the quarterstaff and Asian staffs were NOT used in almost the exact same way. The asian varieties had to account for much lighter staffs that were usually much more flexible. Often using the flexibility as part of the attack. European quarterstaffs, especially English staffs, were much heavier and stiffer, making thrusting much more effective. Meanwhile the Asian staffs were too flexible for thrusting to be very effective so they made use of lots of swings, focusing on speed.
@faolan1686
3 жыл бұрын
@@KurNorock. You're thinking of Chinese bamboo staffs or rattan cain (the one Matt is holding is rattan). I specifically said Okinawan staffs. These are made of Japanese red or white oak or similar hardwood. My Jo staff is made of Chinese white wax wood.
@KurNorock
3 жыл бұрын
@@faolan1686 Fair enough. However I am still pressing X to doubt that a staff that was roughly half the length and 60% the diameter and probably 30% the weight of a quarter staff was used in "almost the exact same way." If I were to even hold a jo staff like a quarter staff I would only have about 12 to 18 inches of staff with which to attack. A bo staff could be more comparable, however they were still shorter, slimmer, and lighter, that quarterstaffs. While some of the same techniques would work, I don't see most bo staffs having the weight or reach needed for many proper quarterstaff techniques.
@faolan1686
3 жыл бұрын
@@KurNorock. You hold a Jo in the exact way Matt showes was the correct historical way. With your lead hand at the mid point and your rear hand a few inches from the butt. I also don't know were you got there numbers from. A Jo is 4 to 5 feet long (chest to shoulder high) and made of 1 to 1.5 inch diameter oak or similar hard wood. A Bo is the same thing but longer. 6 to 6.5 feet.
@faolan1686
3 жыл бұрын
@@KurNorock. This has specs for them. The only real difference between these weapons is geographic. www.smai.com.au/collections/bo-staff/products/bo-staff-red-oak-3ft-4ft-5ft-6ft
@stefanb6539
9 жыл бұрын
Here is my theory about the name. It is actually a tent pole, designed to give a makeshift quarter when travelling.
@matheiuss9760
9 жыл бұрын
This one.
@shane8037
4 жыл бұрын
I believe they are called that because a good stick only cost two bits back then.
@xxxxxx5868
4 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, but what's a quarter?
@Rhinemann
4 жыл бұрын
@@xxxxxx5868 1/4.
@xxxxxx5868
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rhinemann No, like a "makeshift quarter". What's a quarter?
@EmpiricalPragmatist
10 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Hi Matt, and thanks for another fascinating video! It may interest you to know that the Bo in Bojutsu (basically the Japanese equivalent of the quarterstaff) is wielded with constantly changing grips, just like the ones you show here, BUT beginners are taught initially to place their hands equidistant from each other and each end, "1/3 1/3 1/3", and only learn more advanced gripping techniques later. In fact the most common mistake with the Bo grip is ALSO holding it as if you're Darth Maul with a lightsabre, since the hands tend to drift too close together.
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jogo do Pau is a great example of a European martial that did not die out and still has living lineages today.
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, but much bigger! Nunchaku are a type of flail for threshing in farming - in Europe the threshing flail was used as a weapon (see Paulus Hector Mair) and was usually longer than a person's height. It is what evolved into the 'ball and chain' or 'morning star' style flail.
@ShaylaFarrell
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was looking it up for a fight scene in my novel and it's going to be way cooler now that I understand the proper use!
@danielthompson6207
9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and thank you for sharing. While I've seen a multitude of different ways to grip the quarterstaff with various results, I've always had the best time holding it the way you've described and using it more like a spear. This is my preference though and I'm sure comfort and success vary from person to person, it's truly amazing when one reflects on how many different techniques we humans have devised for knocking each other in the head.
@Nahojishere
10 жыл бұрын
Any more videos coming with the quarterstaff? Love to hear more about it :) Love your videos, very educational, cheers!
@JanetStarChild
10 жыл бұрын
Wooh! Great topic! I'd love to see more on polearms and stick fighting.
@MajkaSrajka
9 жыл бұрын
stick fighting. F:
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Difficult to say - it is actually more similar to bill, halberd and partisan fighting because it has both blows and thrusts and is held mainly with a right-hand lead. Whereas spear is more commonly held with a left hand lead and of course does not really deal with blows much or at all.
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks! I did wonder if it was something to do with 'quartering' (splitting).
@Arkantos117
10 жыл бұрын
I've heard that ancient soldiers would have a quarter staff with a small notch in the end, they could hang their gear from the notch to carry it around easier and then just plant the staff into the ground if they needed a rest.
@michaelw7867
9 жыл бұрын
In Chinese Kung-Fu we use both holding the staff in the middle and holding it at one end, depending on circumstances. Our forms develop the skill of instantly switching back and forth smoothly between one position and the other while striking and/or blocking simultaneously. The changing of grips and the blocking and striking must all flow together with no gaps in one's movements. If you look up the Kung-Fu staff on KZitem, you can see many different Chinese styles of doing this.
@carlosensei1
10 жыл бұрын
Made sense. Thanks for posting.
@AllenLinnenJr
9 жыл бұрын
I've always held that a quarter staff was called that due to its "less than lethal" possibilities. It being a weapon that "gives quarter." Just my guess.
@GaveMeGrace1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and well done
@marcelomariano3586
Жыл бұрын
Very good !
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would probably recommend Zachary Wylde (1711) which is hosted on the Linacre School of Defence website. Being later in date it is quite clear and easy to ready and represents a system at least 100 years old at that time.
@Gormancraft
10 жыл бұрын
You see the quarterstaff held toward the end in eastern martial arts as well. Like fencing, it likely developed similarly due to it's effectiveness.
@gerbilsmith
5 жыл бұрын
I have heard someone say years ago that a quarter staff was called that because when describing it's use it was divided in four sections. Similar to how swords were divided into hilt, strong of the blade & weak of the blade. I believe some later sources divide sword blades into 3 sections but I may be misremembering.
@EmmisonMike
10 жыл бұрын
you said Halberd, but i heard Halibut, and that made me smile.
@Caradepato
10 жыл бұрын
There is an old tradition of quarter staffing back home. "Jogo do pao"
@scholagladiatoria
10 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, it was essentially a civilian weapon that cost nothing and could not be legally restricted (as many other weapons were in various times and places).
@rasnac
10 жыл бұрын
The way you describe quarterstaff kinda reminded me of Portuguese stickfighting Jogo do Pau
@TheIclandicViking
10 жыл бұрын
from wikipedia "The name "quarterstaff" is first attested in the mid-16th century. The "quarter" probably refers to the means of production, the staff being made from hardwood of a tree split or sawed into quarters (as opposed to a staff of lower quality made from a tree branch).[1]"
@ulvesparker
4 жыл бұрын
Back in my grandfather's day, even school age children were trained in bo I guess as a focus, discipline and esprit de corps exercise. He taught me to hold it more like a sword (a hand at the base and another about a third up) for reach advantage and when you close the range the base hand can move up to the 2nd third.
@marcusopalenik
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that because the most prominent guard when using it is the basic quarter guard that swordsmen make use of...
@DudeNumberOnePlus
10 жыл бұрын
I prefer the spear like grip, if there is the space, but the center hold has its place.
@AvianSavara
10 жыл бұрын
Hypothesis: Since the medieval and renaissance soldiery was generally billeted somewhere, read "quartered", it could simply be that quarterstaves could have derived their names as training weapons, being the sticks left at the barracks and used mostly in training. An image springs to mind of a galloglaigh training his young attendees in the use of the sparth axe with quarterstaves instead to avoid potential injury. However, I've also read that it could be based on the actual girth of the weapon, being one-fourth of a hardwood staff meant for construction.
@picopanpipe9
10 жыл бұрын
I heard from a guy that quarterstaffs were not rounded but wedge-shaped to give them some cutting power. So it's quite possible they were cut from a small tree which, being quartered lengthways, would give you four quaterstaff "wedges" :)
@stefaniefrost3093
5 жыл бұрын
It was my understanding that quarterstaffs were made with the trunk of a tree that was large enough to produce 4 staves so that each soldier could be issued one quarter staff.
@grimwulf8547
Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was called a quarter staff due to the tree being cut at a certain age / size when the oak was quite young. The log being just big enough to split into 4 and a quarter staff was then fashioned from each quarter of the log. They did this as oak takes time to grow so needed to cut it when it was at the minimum size needed to get value from the crop.
@WilliamLeightonDawson
10 жыл бұрын
'The "quarter" probably refers to the means of production, the staff being made from hardwood of a tree split or sawed into quarters (as opposed to a staff of lower quality made from a tree branch).' - Wikipedia
@gerbilsmith
5 жыл бұрын
I've heard holding in the middle was called half-staffing... No idea if that's a modern name or not however
@iryisa
10 жыл бұрын
It sounds reasonable. Similar weapons tend to be used in similar ways. And in the surviving japanese styles like Shinto Muso Ryu Jo and Katori Shinto Ryu Bo they also have the same points (hold at one end, slide hands, hit with back end).
@jeffburnett1054
10 жыл бұрын
I think that depending on the style and combat along with technique in battle can determine how a weapon is stanced and used the quarter staff is ferry versatile and I've seen and trained with it recently I've used a cane length staff for keeping up with practice but in different styles and sizes and region of use along with who they were fighting that the use of weapons and stances can change apon battle
@Georgeifyable
10 жыл бұрын
I thought quarterstaff was a measurement of length - I trained a few times on staff weapons and there are longer weapons called halfstaves which are 10' long as opposed to 5', which was a standard quarterstaff length. I don't know if this has any sort of historical grounds, and certainly 20' seems impractical for any sort of blunt weapon, particularly one that is predominantly reliant on a sweeping impact (the halfstaves were already too heavy and unwieldy for anyone but the strongest trainees to use with any success). Maybe a full size staff referred to a pike staff or a flagstaff? Just a thought. Again, I've no actual evidence beyond a modern practice, which was not in a HEMA or other historical fencing context. We did generally hold the staves at one end though, just as an issue of impact and reach. Halfstaves were sometimes held in the middle in order to create uncertainty of where strikes were going to be placed, but it resulted in such minor blows that there wasn't any real point to using the technique outside of contact fencing.
@khodexus4963
6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that it is called a quarterstaff because it was sawn from a quarter section of hardwood lumber as opposed to a single thin tree or branch.
@sagarasouske
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff mate, these quarterstaff techniques remind me of Asian spear techniques perhaps the quarterstaff and lance are related?
@Cyclonus5
10 жыл бұрын
I have done historical fencing and while in the end there is little direct from the past truth but I take the truth as such: Both forms were used for the quarter staff, the commonly seen form, you take the staff, divide it into quarters, and grip the outer two division marks, or the quarter marks, hence the name, leaving the "half" mark ungrabbed and the primary parrying surface, not blocking which was primarily the outer points. This position was used for close range. By gripping one quarter section and moving the other hand to the end, you took the distance fighting position, as said also used for glaves, mid length spears, billhooks, etc. and was more common in the past and in many ways more practical. When the Victorian resurgence came about, two factors led to the former form being preferred, one social and one cultural. Socially, the quarter division was generally unique to the staff and not emphasized nearly as much in other weapons so it was a specialization on the qualities that separated quarter staff from other pole arms. Also in this form there was more sport against the "noble" weapons of cane or small sword and thus it was more gentlemanly and sporting than using the whole staff and thus taking the obvious advantage in range. On a Cultural note, French Baton used two hands in the long distance manner and the short style was distinctly English so short style Quarter staff vs long style Baton followed George Silver's fencing vs Mainland European Fencing, Anglo boxing Vs Savate, English wrestling (Lancashire Catch, Cumberland, Devon and Cornish varieties, etc) vs French Flat hand (which eventually evolved into Freestyle, vs Greco-Roman) in a long line of English vs French Rivalries. Hope this helps.
@Gongasoso
9 жыл бұрын
Ah, the French...
@Cyclonus5
9 жыл бұрын
Gongasoso It's funny because the English upper gentry loved french things, french fashions, cursing in french, hence pardon my french, etc, and the lower classes hated them with a passion, as is my understanding. I remember a historical piece on boxing vs Savate, saying that a French tourist wrote that "Anything that looks like fighting is loved by the English" and decrying them as uncivilized and then an English boxer wallops a Chusson fighter and so he learns boxing and that helped bring us modern Savate. The interplay between the French and English keeps coming up so I'm convinced it's a factor.
@CopernicoTube
9 жыл бұрын
I guess that in europe middle ages the people use staff in this way because seems quite familiar with another weapon far more simple and popular: the club. Basically is about use the weight of a piece of wood to make so much damage as possible. To do that, you maximize the weight of a tip making the fulcrum point of the lever next to the another end. In eastern styles, is more common hold the staff as you used on start (not exactly with both hands on the middle, as the US Army Style): the hands starts at the first and last 1/3 of the staff and sliding the hands you choose get more power and reach (like a club or spear) or more control (as you have two shorter sticks on each hand). There is exceptions, of course. On chinese "Lao Family Style" the staff is used like another eastern schools use a long spear, thrusting or "cuting" with a considerable amount of power as a polearm. Because that, so far i can see, there is no "wrong" or "right" way to hold a staff, is a so versatile weapon, very intuitive to use for basic defense, cheap to make and useful on so many ways beyond the combat.
@KTo288
10 жыл бұрын
Sounds more and more like fakelore with its airing but one theory I've encountered is that the quarterstaff was a training weapon to teach the use of the longsword (the western equivalent of the bokken) and as it was meant to be non lethal you would recieve quarter (i.e. mercy) if you lost during traing.
@joesurname3568
9 жыл бұрын
It's called a quarterstaff because it's made from a quarter of a tree trunk. They'd take the log, split it into quarters, and round the corners to make a batch of four quarterstaves.
@maarhoefe
10 жыл бұрын
also wen i train with them i prefer holding them 1 third from the grip so i can slide one hand and use the rear end to hook an oponent or strike in close quarter like one would with a rifle but, basicly i use it like they used their musket
@runakovacs4759
10 жыл бұрын
I always thought western quarterstaff fighting was center hold while the eastern was the one you had shown.
@MadNumForce
10 жыл бұрын
I wanted to check before writting anything stupid, but actually, in Talhoffer, the pole hammer isn't held as far back as you say the quarterstaff was held, but the front hand is about the middle of the pole, or evenfurther front. And if you've ever put a socket billhook (which is quite a common tool, at least in France, about 800-1200 grams) at the end of a pole your height long, you rapidly understand why. What's possible with an unweighted staff isn't if you add a 1kg or more steel head to it.
@Swidhelm
10 жыл бұрын
I had a suspicion that that was how it was held and used. You see it in Wushu today.
@HeavyMettaloid
10 жыл бұрын
I did a bit of research on the Quarterstaff a while back. There isn't any globally accepted reason for why it was called a quarterstaff. Another possible reason was due to the fact that one way to make them was to take a felled tree and cut it into 'quarters', so as to get four of them from a single tree. Cutting it height-wise, that is.
@qvovadislvis8494
Жыл бұрын
Worth
@syystomu
10 жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia: "The name "quarterstaff" is first attested in the mid-16th century. The "quarter" probably refers to the means of production, the staff being made from hardwood of a tree split or sawed into quarters (as opposed to a staff of lower quality made from a tree branch).[1]" The source there is Online Etymological Dictionary but this etymology was retrieved a few years ago in favour of the way of holding manner explanation from Encyclopædia Britannica. It's a possibility at least, though. Wikipedia also gives this quote as support for the theory: "Plodding through Aldersgate, all armed as I was, with a quarter Ashe staffe on my shoulder." (no source aside from OED again.) That does sound a lot like it's talking about the portion of the tree it was made off. Too bad it doesn't have the source. It also gives the holding explanation. And finally there's this: "Joseph Swetnam, writing in 1615, distinguishes between the "quarterstaff" of 7 or 8 feet (2.1 or 2.4 m) in length and the "long staff" of 12 feet (3.7 m).[3]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterstaff I also found mentions of "quarter" meaning mercy ("giving quarter") and of "staff" being an old unit of measurement. Both seem unlikely to me and weren't sourced.
@Mystibump
10 жыл бұрын
It's just a guess, but it may be called a quarterstaff because of village watchmen would be quartered to watch the town's perimeter for threats, and be given said quarterstaves as a weapon (or primary weapon)
@joaomelo7538
10 жыл бұрын
If you hold it like that it shure does seem a lot like portuguese Jogo de Pau, different but quite similar. Could you make a video on that too?
@grnlfe01
10 жыл бұрын
I've heard two possible explanations for the name of a quarterstaff. One, it was seen as a weapon of mercy favour by monks an those forbidden from carrying edged weapons and was unlikely to kill you outright hence giving you quarter. Or a simpler explanation is that it was the height of a man plus a quarter.
@Battleangelx
10 жыл бұрын
Is there a great deal of quarterstaff practice going on in england at the moment? It seems a little underrepresented right now considering how focal it was for english martial arts
@CarnelianUK
10 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, there is a unit of measurement called a rope, and a quarter of a rope is 5 feet, which is (a little bit shorter than) the quarterstaff seems to be, so it could be the name derives from that...
@Adjuni
10 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the quarterstaff was called as such from either A. Being a quarter (Battle) weapon of choice for farmers and whatnot poor people and general peasantry. or B. Simply from being an in and a quarter in girth or thickness.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
10 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm mistaken there was a period in 'ye olde' English dialect where "to quaters" meant something akin to "prepare for battle", also unless I'm mistaken, there wasn't another weapon like the quarterstaff used on the battlefield in that period, so perhaps the name quarterstaff literally just meant something like "battle staff" or "fighting staff"? (I may be mistaken.)
@theowahlenmayer19
6 жыл бұрын
I relies that its been three years but I am just watching this video now. I have heard it is called a quarter staff because they cut the tree trunk into quarters and then if would be whittled down to the correct size. This would be apposed to a branch staff which would be cheaper and not as strong.
@mangmiketeamtaiaha7256
9 жыл бұрын
Agreed best way to hold the staff in Long range and middle when in close. What method does Hema apply techniques with this?
@willnitschke
8 жыл бұрын
I was taught a Chinese family style of pole fighting and the method described for holding the pole is the same in this system. Given there are only a limited number of ways to strike and parry I suspect the European and Chinese techniques will be almost identical.
@Compl33tR4nd0mZ
7 жыл бұрын
Will Nitschke Chinese style is for a Bo staff not Quarterstaff
@willnitschke
7 жыл бұрын
It's a stick mate. Get over it.
@slenpaiwashere3599
7 жыл бұрын
LOL Bo Staff's are from Japan NOT CHINA
@willnitschke
7 жыл бұрын
SlenpaiwasHere As someone who has trained for years in the Bo Staff under Chinese instruction, I'd say you are likely another no nothing fool. But if you want to just call it a Staff instead of a Bo Staff, that's fine. They are still exactly the same thing.
@slenpaiwashere3599
7 жыл бұрын
Will Nitschke dude just Google Bo Staff origin the Bo Staff originated from Okinawan Japan NOT China and was used in feudal Japan most staff's from China are those like the Eyebrow height Staff
@peterforden5917
10 жыл бұрын
three very old useages of quarter are :- a position in fencing a style of fencing and a method of withdrawl....(from a situation!)
@Treblaine
10 жыл бұрын
Well, quarter meant a lot of things other than "one fourth". An example of it's unusual use, a Quarter Horse is not a diminutive horse, but one made for sprinting, particularly for a "quarter mile" and "Six-quartered" actually meant "six sided" One aspect to consider is how "quarter" was used for a racial or culturally segregated part of a town (Jewish Quarter, Spanish qurter), does "quarter staff" mean a weapon of that lower discriminated group who might not be tolerated to have serious bladed weapons to make a point of how it's short.
@Treblaine
10 жыл бұрын
***** Hmm, that's sounds like a very robust hypothesis.
@Cyclonus5
10 жыл бұрын
***** According to the tradition of the RN, to give Quarter was to surrender in exchange of one quarter of a years wages. it's passed on a verbal tradition so I'm not sure how true it is but I'd believe it.
@mojothemigo
10 жыл бұрын
I think Matt has a point about no one having any solid proof either way, but the staff was used and trained by everyone and it is fully capable of literally wacking the brains out of someone. I still think it refers to holding it by one quarter of the weapon. Just adding for discussion sake.
@Treblaine
10 жыл бұрын
mojothemigo Hmm, also begs the question of if they really were even called quarter staffs.
@Cyclonus5
10 жыл бұрын
Treblaine I think that's what this thread is ultimately about: eveyone shares their opinion and you read and except what personally makes sense
@jamestyler4676
10 жыл бұрын
It only costs a quarter, that's my guess...
@ShinyBidoof
10 жыл бұрын
Well damn, I overpaid. I guess mine's a buck-and-a-quarterstaff.
@brainsballsengineering9136
10 жыл бұрын
ShinyBidoof Dang it. Mine was 7.50 :3
@gurkfisk89
10 жыл бұрын
Off the top of my head I would say the flail. Some agricultural flails are very similar to nunchaku, even if the weaponized flails looks different. If you look at Paulus Hector Mair´s flails you will find that they seems to be two handed nunchakus =).
@benashurov7434
4 жыл бұрын
I think we need to be a bit more specific about quarter staff technique, since they vary style to style.
@buu678
10 жыл бұрын
hey quick question: if a sword is a weapon with the blade being longer than the handle and a spear is one when the blade is shorter than the handle what do you call it when the blade and the handle are the same length as each other?
@edi9892
10 жыл бұрын
If you want to see how it might have been used and more about different grips: /watch?v=lhkzv2yEERE
@stephanwatson7902
3 жыл бұрын
Yup I practice Bo Staff, but if I really had to use it I'd hold it like that. Keep distance, strike at their hands/kneecap and thrust at their face
@maarhoefe
10 жыл бұрын
maybe bit had something to do with the fact that you could give your oponent quarter, it was a less lethal weapon
@RVM451
10 жыл бұрын
This brings to mind reading "Robin Hood" in its King James English when I was a small boy. At one point a character with a Quarterstaff tells a man with a Long Sword something like: "Put away your Blade because you are hopelessly out matched by my Staff. If you want to fight, go cut yourself a Staff and come back." That has never rang true for me. Comments? Modern Bayonet fighting makes equal use of the Rifles Butt and the Bayonet's Blade. I think Pugil sticks were originally devised for bayonet Fighting practice... .....RVM45
@benhover9604
9 жыл бұрын
If both men are not in armor then the man with the long sword cannot afford to be struck with the staff thrusting to the head or any swing esp the head. it is exceedingly hard to get past the point of a good spear man with a shorter single weapon. I do quite a bit of medieval reenactment fighting and 6 to 7 foot pole weapons do exceedingly well against both the really big two handed swords and long (really two handed but you could use it in one in a pinch) swords. if he is wearing a helm, and even thick padding things would change quite a bit but a staff thrust with a hardwood staff is like a punch with brass knuckles, you don't want to get hit in the face with that and even in the body it is likely to break a rib.
@Arcyn
9 жыл бұрын
While I was training with a bo staff, I was taught to hold it from the center and change my grip depending on which swing I was using. Maybe the misconception stemmed from that style of martial arts?
@williamcryts5337
10 жыл бұрын
have you heard of irish stick fighting? that jogo do pau looks a little like the stick fights on zibtors channel i started looking into irish stick fighting and i cant find much about it it seems the only people who show anything about it are the Canadians (channel name zibtor, T.J kennedy and harmony fist) the logic behind it was due to weapons bans in Ireland stick fighting was still relevent and thus was maintained and preserved to fight other gangs/factions in ireland
@gurahl06
10 жыл бұрын
Were ther any Nunchaku tipe weapons in medieval europe?
@InDadequate
4 жыл бұрын
right hand forward?
@HillardEarl
9 жыл бұрын
If someone perfects the use of the quarterstaff. I think that would be the way they should use it. It's like the sword, knowing what someone else did with it can only be theory. Now perfect what you can do with it then you have truth. Now that you can truly smile about. Image the best sword fight you have ever seen. Now turn every frame into a picture, now how many pictures can you remove. I think the answer should be none . Once you remove picture it may look but it is not. Once you know that to be true once again you can smile. lol
@jamescydonia
10 жыл бұрын
Or that one scene from Enter The Dragon ;P
@Lachrandir
5 жыл бұрын
I heard that it was called a quarter staff because it needed to be quarter sawn for strength, or at least continuity of grain
@MrSaber152
10 жыл бұрын
i was told that quarter means mercy so a quarter staff was a merciful weapon in comparison to the other options. such as swords and axes and spears that typicaly kill. a quarter would be much less likely to do so. so in a duel when they say no quarter means no mercy.
@DanPFS
10 жыл бұрын
I know the Japanese short staff (the jo) is held at the end as well. Paul teaches English quarterstaff at Stoccata (I'm yet to learn it, unfortunately), which vary from something like 7-8 feet long. Is this a distinction between the earlier use as a weapon and the later use for sport? Or something else entirely?
@BigZ7337
10 жыл бұрын
But if you hold it like that, how would you ever recreate the Quarterstaff scene from Robin Hood Men in Tights? :)
@Uhlbelk
7 жыл бұрын
Put this explanation on another video but I'll put it here as well. Early treatise on the use of staffs have short and long staffs. After that they continued with long staff but then they referred to a quarter staff. I would posit that quarter staff was a shortened form of saying three quarters longstaff. Or simply an alternative way to say short staff.
@massmedia7158
7 жыл бұрын
So I have been looking around on the web to see how long it would take to learn to fight with a staff I am doing this for book I am writing for one of the characters can anyone give me a general time frame for how long it would take to become half decent with a staff thank you
@trevorjohnson8442
10 жыл бұрын
I just talked to my brother, who is a U.S. Eagle Scout, and apparently they still do use quarterstaff in some of their badges. He was taught to use one as a barricade for riot control, where you hold it across your body and use it to push the crowd. He wasn't taught how to strike with it, which is a pity. I do know, however, that Japanese police have used the jo as a riot control device. I'm not sure if they still do, but apparently it has the advantage of not being obvious to reporters on the edge of the crows when you strike with it as you can hit knees and groin. (As opposed to the videos of Western cops using overhand strikes with shorter clubs.)
@trevorjohnson8442
10 жыл бұрын
Boy scout training is not actually riot training. It's also rather archaic, and includes no provisions for whacking people. It's rather a pity, because if they'd just taken a page from bartitsu, which was a contemporary British martial art that did include more gentlemanly weapons, it would be much more useful.
@c4feg4r44
10 жыл бұрын
in eastern style they use momentum more that has been created by spinning
@hansbrackhaus8017
10 ай бұрын
This is the only way that makes the most true, martial sense. Just like how BJJ, Wrestling, Judo and Boxing are used in MMA wheras most of the other 'martial arts' are getting trashed cause they're memes.
@michaelw7867
Жыл бұрын
Here's an example of how the Chinese use the staff, switching back and forth from one grip to another smoothly and instantly: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sqGLqI6DjYlzpXo
@wallabyparty5443
5 жыл бұрын
I know the vid is old but I figured the name came from it being possible to be made from a quarter of a stave like a bow.
@jamesbruce1975
10 жыл бұрын
The definition of a quarterstaff that I was introduced to was that it, much like a Bow stave, a quarterstaff was extracted from a quarter cross section of a tree hence quarterstaff, I have no proof that this is true and am honestly dubious as there aren't many weapons that are named after their production method. Just a theory.
@edi9892
10 жыл бұрын
I wonder who used quaterstaffs historically. Was it for those that were not allowed to carry weapons, or was it more somthing of dual use? I am thinking of a walking aid in mountains and swampy terrain, but also of shepards, etc.
@kirklawson2218
3 жыл бұрын
Sir, I think you have your time-line a bit off. The Boy Scouts were not founded until 1907 in England, though the Master at Arms Merit Badge (which included Quarterstaff, Singlestick, Fencing, Boxing, Wrestling, and "Ju Jitsu") was one of the first. Conversely he earliest of the Victorian sporting systems I've found published was the Thomas McCarthy system from 1883. Stranger still, the Boy Scouts Master at Arms Merit Badge manual of 1926 specifies to hold the staff while in "guard" : "The right hand grasps the staff in the middle, whilst the left holds it about a quarter of the way up the tip end of it" Yes, the tip would be the end closest to your opponent. And the illustration shows pretty close to that description. An earlier incarnation of the manual leaves out that description and shows hand positions at roughly 1/3 intervals.
@Makergr9
10 жыл бұрын
I always assumed a quarter staff's name had something to do with it's length. But don't get me wrong I have no clue at all about medieval history or weapons, so feel free to ignore this :P
@TheLivingHeiromartyr
10 жыл бұрын
Well firstly I don't think they usually referred to it as a quarterstaff in the actual military, I think they called it a short staff, as apposed to a long staff, or pike. And maybe quarter is to do with the tree whence it's cut ? A quarter of the tree trunk of an average ash tree or something like that? Just a suggestion.
@GionisTheWanderer
10 жыл бұрын
first grip is how you hold bo staff
@dolbeeii7331
10 жыл бұрын
Was quarterstaff technique used in spear fighting as well? As far as I know spear fighting is only very lightly touched in the remaining treatises. Maybe quarterstaff=spear was just something taken for granted back then.
@stampedmetalsword8099
4 жыл бұрын
When that wood splinters it will impale your hand with small pieces of wood using that sliding shaft technique
@ckfnpku
3 жыл бұрын
If you are using it as a weapon you oil it and tend it so it does not splinter. You pour oil on the top and let it soak through the staff to keep the wood fresh.
@a.j.williams5660
10 жыл бұрын
I heard the name came from the way it was made, you would get the trunk of a tree and cut it into quarters and smooth that into the desired shape. Thats my 2c
@hoss3777
10 жыл бұрын
interesting i thought the movie techniques were bastardizations of eastern martial staff training
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