Good video, as a carpenter,the only think I would do is ,start with the grove a ,and nail the tongue,(in Scotland we call it secret nailing,)then when you get to the end board it's easier to finish,the last board we just cut the BACK of the grove of ,so that it fits over the tongue,and you don't struggle , getting it in,(hope this makes sense to you),,🏴🏴
@thadh4085
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismclaren6592 I believe I understand what you're saying. My main concern is the 20' lengths. Thanks for the tip.
@Stefan_Kawalec
3 жыл бұрын
@@thadh4085 Scaffolding.
@jesseharrison9084
3 жыл бұрын
@@thadh4085 make a story pole and see how wide your first board will be so that your boards on each end are close to the same size. Maybe try using something like the zip wall poles has to hold up one end and middle of the piece if you can find a tool like that. Obviously you can’t always use it since not all ceilings are flat. Or if you butt t@g to a beam, highly recommended starting top to bottom tongue down
@BarackObama6483
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I just installed 1100sqft of t&g solid hickory. Half barrel vaulted. Blind nailed. Looks amazing
@CooterJoeBigsby
3 жыл бұрын
Really glad she hired you!! You’re gonna get a lot of great content from this job!!
@bradleyb2524
3 жыл бұрын
Read the paperwork for that laser, unless its a $500 laser they usually have a drop tolerance
@michaelc.3812
3 жыл бұрын
Richard, those recessed lights can be dropped by loosening the three screws. Then they drop flush with your T&G! Nice trick. Great vid.
@garrettlund
3 жыл бұрын
Totally and sometimes they need to be slightly adjusted one way or another to line up with how you run the boards. My first time doing this learned that when the lights were not a-line just right by the Electrian it’s shows up big time with all the straight lines
@eileenheitman4351
3 жыл бұрын
I admire your relaxed, chill, demeanor. I often feel tension ..I’m pushing, pushing, trying to make good time and hold to my estimated timeline. There are inevitable setbacks, little problems, typical to every job and every job I do takes longer than I planned for. I don’t bid by the hour. I give a specific bottom line bid price. I can estimate matl. cost very accurately but always underestimate the number of man hours . I’ve been in biz 41 years and in the trades 46 years. Yet, I’m still too optimistic on my time frame computations....hence the tension. The upside is that I always deliver quality craftsmanship and have a long list of very satisfied customers. I think I’m usually 25% off on my time estimates. Guess I’ll just add 25% to my labor figure on the next bid. I use $65 per hour when figuring my labor cost. Anyway....congrats on your thriving business, your command of the craft, your video skills and thanks for sharing your experiences and advice. I can’t imagine being an employee. We are blessed to be independent, aren’t we? Semper Fidelis Dave Heitman Dave the Carpenter in Omaha Hen
@davidbalderston2751
3 жыл бұрын
Eileen Heitman : I would always overestimate my time. That way I never felt pressured with time constraints and customers are never upset when I would finish a job early. Of course, I would charge $50/ Hr. based on actual time spent to complete the project. I also enjoy watching Richard tackle these jobs. The thing is that he makes difficult projects look easy which is the true sign of talent in my opinion.
@northcackalacky4694
3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind running 8hrs over my estimated time, because I know my customers appreciate my attention to detail. They will tell their friends and family, and I can recover most of that time, if not all on the next job I price out. I've had 2 or 3 pissy customers since 1980. Carpentry makes me happy, so I'd rather Donate my hours on a job to get future referrals, than Stress about it. It all works out in the wash.
@victorsupreme214
3 жыл бұрын
" I give a specific bottom line bid price." - Unless you have clairvoyancy and x-ray vision giving a fixed price with no variations allowed leaves you in the lurch with unexpected or hidden problems (costs). Perhaps using your standard estimate + 25% as the lower end and + 50% as the higher end of a 'fixed estimate range' to give to clients.
@michaeljbreault
3 жыл бұрын
God help the person that will be filling and sanding all those nail holes preping for paint.
@erichunley2023
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s t&g for a reason, nail the tongue, you could have bought a new gun for free. Gonna take someone all day to fill those holes. Prefinish boards and nail in the tongue = done
@floored3145
3 жыл бұрын
Man I wasn't a fan of that cut hub based on the price but seeing it more now it looks like a beast of a stand.
@clintprice2123
3 жыл бұрын
I certainly agree and the more I see it the more I see the value in it.
@ianmarsden8568
3 жыл бұрын
Just out of interest, would you remeasure say half way through to make sure the 1/8" difference 'out of square' is maintained and nothing screwy happens to knock you off as you progress across the ceiling. Just wondered. Another great video and what nice house.
@adammacer
3 жыл бұрын
Always worth checking as you go at regular intervals - if you start wandering it's easy to pull it back if you catch it early enough..
@michaelbrooks9450
3 жыл бұрын
Great work guys. I do have 1 question is there a reason you install with groove side ahead. Ive been building for 20+ yrs & I have always installed it like flooring tongue side ahead. Very curious maybe I'll learn something
@scottfeenstra4322
3 жыл бұрын
I always blind nail. 18 Guage with pl premium.I cut everything with the tracksaw with the instasquare up on the scaffolding to save trips up and down. I've also found that putting a bevel on the cuts with cordless router helps. It accents the joint, but any movement is not as noticeable down the road.
@adammacer
3 жыл бұрын
@@degrom542 Also doesn't push them tight against the previous board
@Chip57
3 жыл бұрын
Blind nail definitely, as a General Contractor first, I always prefer to keep unnecessary work to the absolute minimum. In this case the extra nail holes needing to be filled are not the best objective and what seems minuscule in nature is actually an extra step and more unnecessary job cost. JMO!
@joejr9653
3 жыл бұрын
Ceiling looks great. All the plywood is smart so you can nail anywhere.
@ashleighelliott-williams1935
3 жыл бұрын
I know this is really random but have we ever heard John speak?
@rchavez5056
3 жыл бұрын
They are like Penn and Teller.
@mazie.wilson
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@alnervis7578
3 жыл бұрын
It's the first time I've ever seen his face. Kinda like th guy on Tool Times
@jruff0727
3 жыл бұрын
Damb dude you need a lazer. Set it on the floor Line lazer perfectly center in side the can lights smoke detected ect. Mark it on the floor stack them all come back with lazer set it on the floor were your marks were at. 6, 4, 2, inch hole saw what's ever size way cleaner and way faster.
@mikegman7502
3 жыл бұрын
Its nots as fast but I like to do a bevel cut instead of a but joint it just hides the seam alittle better
@shermanlabarge6132
3 жыл бұрын
That’s my comment, too
@redscortgt93
3 жыл бұрын
I love learning new tips and tricks from the channel, but to be honest even if I don’t learn anything I just love watching the work come together. Lol nice 👍
@stevebarker4681
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job . I shoot a laser down the center of room and roll my first piece . I aways glue the back of every peice. Insurance.
@jerrypelletier2328
3 жыл бұрын
Sprinklers in a house??....Sounds like blue state nonsense.....
@iwasabigdeel7895
3 жыл бұрын
No, it's Texas. It's red and ridiculous.
@keithrhoda9508
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you on this job, Richard. I am excited for this series of videos. Keith from Jersey
@jennydannyp7229
2 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome! Question small kitchen how do you finish it with an open ceiling to the dinning room? I just want this in my kitchen ! I believe you should lay the boards in length?
@glyslo8546
3 жыл бұрын
I love that you care about your work. it show on the work you do , it’s so beautiful 👍
@jhaveruk1
3 жыл бұрын
When you come to a row with lights/sprinkler heads and they'll span 2 rows, layout your first like you're doing then put the 2nd together on the bench and lay that one out too.
@turboflush
3 жыл бұрын
Just did this on my porch. Both pitches were different lengths different. One big ugly trapezoid. Tried to float the. Grooves out as much as possible to reduce the difference. Came out decent for a diyer. :)
@Amanda-yl1oz
3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Everyday I learned something new and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to do twice as much work so we can all learn. I wanted to buy one of your DeWaukee shirts, is it possible to get one in size small?
@leslietinyhousebuilderwann3851
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job! I clicked on the like button so the number would be 667.
@bobpoor6348
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me but I have hung alot of t&g and always put the first board groove side to the wall. That way I can hit the tongue with my soft blow hammer if necessary for fit and not the groove side which could break. I put the last two boards in together by angling both and pushing the middle in for a tight fit. My 18ga. Milwaukee with the right tip blind nails just fine and saves on putty later. I have had good luck with ceiling boxes/cans putting a thin bead of silicone on their edge and placing the board up the pressing against it. Take it down and use a hole saw or jig saw. Wouldn't work on those sprinkler heads though...Looks like it is going to be a great project for you!
@tommooe4524
2 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@samphilipp4997
3 жыл бұрын
Did the framers install the plywood? Is it 5/8?
@donmarks3984
3 жыл бұрын
I use 16 gauge blind nailed with no problems.
@tomcordio173
3 жыл бұрын
May I suggest that you try toenailing the tongue every 12 to 16 inches apart with a 2 inch long 15 or 16 gauge brad nail. This method is similar to laying hardwood t&g floors. This method avoids having to putty the nail holes. It hides all of the nails without sacrificing the integrity of the installation. The only face nailing is the last few rows where you can’t angle the gun near the wall. Just my two cents. I love watching your videos. Keep them coming.
@mikegman7502
3 жыл бұрын
Always blind nail tounge and groove unless your at the last couple pieces saves alot of time for the painters
@donmarks3984
3 жыл бұрын
I do nail the tongue Tom. I guess you’re aiming your comment to the poster of the video.
@mikegman7502
3 жыл бұрын
@@donmarks3984 ya man wasnt towards you
@tomcordio173
3 жыл бұрын
@@donmarks3984 sorry. You’re correct. I meant to send the comment to Richard.
@s_brinkmeyer7882
3 жыл бұрын
Video/editing quality is on the money for this vid.
@Weird_1
3 жыл бұрын
i dont think those sprinklers will pass code being slightly above that t&g board...?
@IceCat143
3 жыл бұрын
“with my Super Mario pencil” 😂😂😂
@kathyyeager6055
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! So glad you’re doing Kira’s! I’m always amazed by your measuring skills. That’s beautiful!
@pasiwoodworks1735
3 жыл бұрын
I use 18 GA staples in the tongue ✌ perfect job as always 👊😎 keep on
@jefferyholland
3 жыл бұрын
Gonna be a fun project to follow along with. Ceilings are a pain in the neck
@donaldpyles2891
3 жыл бұрын
Love the look of the T&G ceiling, more great ideas as we design our retirement home...need to cost of building materials to get back somewhere close to normal. Not sure about in Dallas but the cost here in Michigan is crazy right now. Thanks for the great video.
@billzima7068
3 жыл бұрын
I just sent my helper to local lumberyard here in Jersey and spent $75 for 6-2×4×8' regular studs. ;( B4 all this craziness they were about $3-3.25 each.
@donaldpyles2891
3 жыл бұрын
@@billzima7068 crazy....not the time to be building a retirement home
@Dave-ek2jx
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a builder in Northern Michigan (TC) and yeah, prices are crazy. Low to mid 30s for a sheet of ½ inch OSB? That's ridiculous. Places are only guaranteeing prices on lumber packages for a week!
@Chip57
3 жыл бұрын
We’re paying $20-25 a sheet for 7/16” OSB and $5.50-6.00 for 2x4x96” studs in the PAC Northwest
@Chip57
3 жыл бұрын
I sure would like to see more USA mills for one thing but doubt that will happen!
@kenactofkindness4017
3 жыл бұрын
happy haloween , exciting even ur board lol
@rem5206
3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you got the the job. Hope it goes well. FYI , if you install the T&G with the tongue leading you have the option to blind nail or face nail. Installation is easier as well.Typically I will use 16ga. or 18ga nails. Tongues do not break if nailed correctly. Keep in mind T&G was originally installed without pneumatic nailers. Most painters today do not do a proper job of filling nail holes , so I try to hide as many nails as possible . With stain grade material, blind nailing is the only option with the occasional face nails strategically placed. REM finish carpentry
@clintprice2123
3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job as always Richard. Why when they installed the sprinkler heads didn’t they allow for the material thickness? Now they have to extend the piping to if needed they work correctly. I hope there is attic access as I just had to Sheetrock around 11 replacement heads on an older house and they cut out 12”x12” squares for access and working space as there wasn’t an attic above.
@tunjimike
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Rich, how do u finish the TG on the other wall where it ends, did u scribe or it was a perfect fit?
@gtpro700
3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to guess it’s getting crown so doesn’t matter if it fits perfect to the wall or not
@efrainlozada7377
3 жыл бұрын
Does it make a difference if you do this after drywall? Can someone please inform me on this. I’m doing a new build and want to know if it was done for savings?
@johnarnold6623
3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best explanation of how to, “why you’re doing this” and “not doing that”. Thanks for the video!
@olachus
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know who hits the dislike button, but obviously they don't know why. I'm not saying your work is perfect, but you get to improve yourself along the way and so far you two are doing great. So keep up the good work and make great videos so we can follow your work and enjoy a quality job well done! When you stop in Houston, let me know. Maybe we can have lunch together.
@jaskoe1
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you recommend using glue if you have plywood underneath or is nailing it fine?
@jamesjones1198
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you picked up some good work on that new construction! Keep up the grind and great videos man! Love watching them!!
@donaldhangartner3828
3 жыл бұрын
So much paint prep !!!
@robarinc.2859
3 жыл бұрын
Another blazing project by Richard and crew super impressed
@TheBackyardFox
3 жыл бұрын
Looking good! Will you be painting that ceiling or someone else?
@ninjamaster3453
3 жыл бұрын
He always paints his trim
@justincunningham5457
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I install lots of t&g lids. I really recommend a compass.
@rentalsloth6042
3 жыл бұрын
Did my tongue and groove ceilings 6 months ago, only difference is I routed the ends/seams of every board to match the sides, and it looks sharp. I may be biased but I like the router edges better than the flat butt ends.
@iwasabigdeel7895
3 жыл бұрын
Same as you!
@felipegrille8082
Жыл бұрын
Too cool with the super Mario pencil.. this tile guys got hello kitty pencils.. I was watching the video because I'm fixing to do my ceiling with tongue and groove pine
@-TroyStory-
3 жыл бұрын
Just finished installing this on my own 1000 sq Ft rancher renovarion. It wasn’t easy but like you demonstrated, if you plan ahead and square up both sides of the room as well as ensure you measure out and trim the starting wall properly so you don’t end up with a little sliver on the far side lol. I blind nailed mine straight to the rafters with 16 ga 2” nails perpendicular to the joists and it’s solid as hell. I staggered mine something like 6,8,10,12 in the large rooms and it looks super nice. It’s nice to see that as an amateur I pretty much “nailed” my installation like a pro would. 😂 great work guys!
@Dave-ek2jx
3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome you tackled that on your own. Great job! Btw by "staggered" I hope you don't mean you stair-stepped them. With flooring and panelling you always want your joints to be as random as possible. That being said, a lot of veteran carpenters do stair-step their joints. It's a common mistake. It isn't "wrong" but it doesn't look as good as random joints.
@TheDesertRat31
3 жыл бұрын
For your seams on the extended length, looks like a flat cut. Any reason you didn't bevel cut? Due to time? I've understood that the bevel can help with hiding the seam.
@DR-um2bv
3 ай бұрын
Ok the plywood underneath, what the reason?. And does it need air or moisture barrier if no plywood?
@charlieshwan5574
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised and disappointed you didn’t put a biscuit in the ends of the boards considering what a perfectionist you are.
@tonypuente2439
2 жыл бұрын
I will still use some Liquid nails adesive every 3 boards base on the 16 gauge nails you use and more because they are on the ceiling ,not on walls ,just my opinion ,not saying you wrong 👍 God bless 🙏
@wolftiketz
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think I could use a 23 gauge pin nailer to install this type of ceiling in a small bathroom? it’s about 5’x8’
@mooosestang
2 жыл бұрын
Good God man, how much was that ceiling just in materials!
@jermkosche1715
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't u also give ppl some name of some clients and a price list and. Maybe ull stop putting these.videos up.
@sleauth
Жыл бұрын
What happens if the the tongue and groove boards separate by 1/16? Did he do it wrong?
@ashleydixon9251
Жыл бұрын
Which trade does tongue and groove ceiling treatments? Finish carpenter???
@douglasdurham6548
3 жыл бұрын
Looks great, look forward to watching your work.
@tonygraff3255
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Love the work you do. The pride i see behind your work makes all the difference in the end result. Good stuff 👍🏼👍🏼
@jesusespin9941
3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone reading, i just moved to austin tx area and i have no costumers nor contractor conection how do i go on getting some work. No bad comments please im just trying to make a living
@dwaynemurphy650
3 жыл бұрын
Been watching for almost a year and just noticed I wasn’t subscribed
@rigograjeda3538
2 жыл бұрын
as a finish carpenter for 30 years i can say that safety is the first thing you should look into, youre 15 feet un in the air on a ladder, no safety harness, your helper should wear at least safety glasses, i see you wearing tennis shoes , steel toe boots are out there for a reason, pencil in your compass should be longer, get yourself a series of hole saws, so many things an older carpenter can see right away, i hope you read this comment and make safety your priority, osha would shut you down so quick in california for that.
@drleo2641
2 жыл бұрын
I think I take my chance with the blind nailing. Filling and sanding all those nail holes! My neck and shoulder hurt just thinking about it
@michaelc9248
2 жыл бұрын
Blind nailing is definitely the way to go. Go look at your door frames, if they're over a year old you'll see where they're filled.
@houseofhunga3440
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Between Wooden T&G and POP ceiling type, which one is better?
@thomasgilmartin2191
3 жыл бұрын
Do a review on your diamondback rig !!!!!
@electricianron_New_Jersey
3 жыл бұрын
Watched this before on tv but I’m back now to comment. Great content, great editing.
@RockyMountainGardener
3 жыл бұрын
The best video that I’ve seen on this! Thank you!
@peterbergeris6510
8 ай бұрын
That's alot of filling n sanding. On other videos you blind nailed.
@garykreutzer7692
3 жыл бұрын
I don't like to see T&G face nailed. I was taught years ago to bling nail.
@Larsenvlogs
3 жыл бұрын
You would really lift up a large piece to trace a light into it rather than use your tape measure like every other Carpenter I've ever seen?
@acwright
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I did mine similarly to you .
@roberthall4214
2 жыл бұрын
How do you handle ceilings that require hidden access panels?
@ryankojabashian9599
3 жыл бұрын
Do you install crown or some other trim around the perimeter or just caulk?
@ThekiBoran
2 жыл бұрын
I understand but face nailing adds a fair amount of extra work.
@Pkripper-67
3 жыл бұрын
That Diamondback tool belt tho 🔥🔥🔥
@mikeferland9185
3 жыл бұрын
I do alot of this on the barn houses we build in New England but we are made blind nail them
@jameslastname9171
3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a heavy gauge for such light weight per nail. Thinking you could have pulled it off with 18 gauge and blind nail every couple feet
@neddyboy01
3 жыл бұрын
And also some construction adhesive for added security.
@2loco
3 жыл бұрын
So many experts on here it is amazing.
@neddyboy01
3 жыл бұрын
@@FinishCarpentryTV yes I know they gave you the plywood which allows you to nail anywhere but I would prefer to blind nail with some glue on the back to save having to fill all the nail holes after. Personal preference. It still looks fantastic and I'm looking forward to seeing it all completed. Now that winter has hit us in Texas will you be doing any DeWaukee hoodies?
@stevenbartholomew9749
3 жыл бұрын
@@neddyboy01 i have put up thousands of sq. ft of tongue and groove pine with 18ga blind nailed.. no adhesive, no problems. The boards are so light and they dont get any impacts/force so you dont need much to hold them. Never had any problems
@FinishCarpentryTV
3 жыл бұрын
@@neddyboy01 thanks! Yes I think a DeWaukee hoodie will be coming very soon! I understand wanting to use glue but I wouldn’t use it in this ceiling because as we were installing this job I accidentally nailed up a damaged board and I didn’t see it until it was completely nailed. It was extremely difficult to remove. I couldn’t believe it.
@CAMPFIRESKY
2 жыл бұрын
If you are face nailing, how do you hide or cover the nail heads?
@hirammontoya5056
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how much can I get for a work like this.
@cghoward70
3 жыл бұрын
Richard rockin’ the cool drone intro 💪
@o53ro
Жыл бұрын
Do I need to install plywood before the tongue n groove?
@ridgmont61
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent- you got the contract.
@Bangthis007
6 ай бұрын
Anyone know what do you charge to install t &g
@preparedman8544
3 жыл бұрын
I think this look nice on a wall.
@iwasabigdeel7895
3 жыл бұрын
You think right. Go see what you're thinking over at Pinterest
@6669bj
3 жыл бұрын
I would not be happy with all the face nails 🤮🤮
@samphilipp4997
3 жыл бұрын
Is it code to have a fire suppression system in a residential house there or just an option?
@nicolasarias6000
3 жыл бұрын
Not that I know. Probably depends where you live but it'll help your insurance go down
@samphilipp4997
3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasarias6000 Thxs
@neddyboy01
3 жыл бұрын
Once you go over a certain square footage you need it.
@FarmerTan89
3 жыл бұрын
It is code in MD now for all new construction no matter what square footage. Most over reaching code law MD has passed in a long time!
@samphilipp4997
3 жыл бұрын
@@FarmerTan89 Yeah that isn't cheap to install and the government shouldn't be able to tell you you have to have it.
@derrickmartinez916
9 ай бұрын
what if the ceiling is stucco how do you apply to it
@erikvaldur3334
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you do nice work. I do wonder why you use a carpenters' pencil though. The lead is way too thick for precision markings. If you used that pencil from your compass and use a pencil sharpener it'll give a more precise mark for ya.
@rachelcolvard791
3 жыл бұрын
People laugh but that’s exactly why I like using the Dixon pencils. You may look like a kindergartener but it’s easier, for me, to control the line thickness when I roll the pencil as I go. 👍
@erikvaldur3334
3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelcolvard791 I had one guy laugh at my pencil and the fact that I keep a sharpener in one of my pouches. After the first job I did for him he paid me more than any of his other installers and I got all the hard jobs that his others couldn't do. Your set up makes all the difference in the world. I've been doing this a Lil over 30 years. I've done some very high end finish work. If I showed up with a carpenters pencil, most contractors and homeowners would laugh at me. I do own some, but I would only use them for framing jobs. I haven't done that in a decade or two though. Ha, I have huge round pencils I use for framing stuff as well. Those are like kindergarten pencils but they can get a fine, sharp point and the point holds up a long time because they're so thick. Some of my better lumber suppliers give em out with orders.
@FreeRivers85
3 жыл бұрын
I usually watch your videos on my phone, but switched it to my TV today and WOW your image quality is looking gooood!! Why are you carrying two tapes?
@shadzrob1234
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t speak for him, but I’m forever setting my tapes down and forgetting where I’ve put them. 😂
@lordphilerojas
3 жыл бұрын
Why two tape measures Richard?
@billiyou
2 жыл бұрын
Can these same panels be used on the interior walls?
@cdurkinz
3 жыл бұрын
Where can we get the DeWaukee tshirts are they still available? Would love a couple of them. Keep up the good work!
@JB-ez2jz
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Just one comment, I understand not "wanting" to use a router and going with another method(there's tons of methods) BUTTTT that Milwaukee trim router is more than capable of running that tongue n groove
@camiloardila2399
3 жыл бұрын
A scaffold would help out so much...🤭
@doreen9641
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing. One quick question, is it possible to install this without drywall or plywood? I'm pulling down the drywall so I can better insulate the cathedral ceiling.
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