This is exactly what I needed to know for a small repair I'm attempting at our home. Thanks for the upload. Very helpful!
@michaelbedell6523
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip for reattaching the top row that the wind removed since the installer used smooth shank nails. Great presentation for us weekend warriors.
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! This is the best way if done right
@jshumphress13
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the tip. Never messed with siding before as our house is mostly brick, but a storm came though and knocked my top piece of siding down (it’s dangling). I just might have to try this.
@hightechcarpentry
Жыл бұрын
Awesome solution! I don't deal with a ton of vinyl, but when I do the top run is always a problem. Thanks!
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
This is the best way I know of. Never had an issue
@jasoncunningham5595
Жыл бұрын
A few little blobs in the bottom will work fine to save some silicone. Also keeps it from seaping out of the weep holes on bottom. My dad taught me this trick 20 yrs ago. Works well
@beebob1279
Жыл бұрын
I commented earlier and my neighbor who is a building said to never do this. I commented a year ago and haven't gone after the issue yet. I guess I'll give it a try tomorrow since it's Labor Day and I'm tired of it coming loose and fixing it. Even where a contractor came in to do a garage is actually falling off. It's frustrating and I don't know if I screw up, will I be able to get that siding again.
@jasoncunningham5595
Жыл бұрын
@@beebob1279 it'll work fine.
@joshhead9368
Жыл бұрын
Great video man thanks a lot. I've got a few pieces that come off everything it gets windy and it's driving me nuts. I m going to go with this method
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@likearockcm
3 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad I found this video !! My problem is the last panel fit half way into the j-channel so I have about an inch run and this trick will work for that. And the piece will float with the last panel if I don't use under sill. Thanks
@SILLYHILLBILLY43
2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how expansion and contraction play into this method? I would never caulk a hook strip on vinyl, but if I were going to use this method, I would at least stich caulk it (2" caulking every 24", for example). I feel like the second the temperature changes the top of this wall is going to look like a sun chip.
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
If you use 100% silicone it will be able to expand and contract
@philbear21
2 жыл бұрын
100% silicone will expand with the piece, but I’d still stitch it where I live, in NC. We get up to 50 degree swings in temperature in one day at the changing of seasons. I cut the hook at an angle every 18” or so, and fold it under itself to thicken the lip that goes into to lock, and sometimes use silicone, or run a ring shank trim nail every 4-6 feet straight up through the lip and lock, but not into the sheeting as a last resort. I hang triple 6 with styrofoam insulation with this method and don’t get call backs, and they’re as heavy as it gets. (18” tall by 12-16 feet long)
@vapilot7814
8 күн бұрын
Great tip
@user-tk8qi6gp7m
9 ай бұрын
What about expansion that top piece won’t be able to move as well as the other siding
@beebob1279
3 жыл бұрын
The notching has been an issue for me over twenty years. I used the under sill strip and it just doesn't hold. I'm hoping your work fixes my issue. I've got left over siding from the job and will try your method this summer My only question to this is expansion. Won't it be a problem with expansion and contraction in the heat and cold?
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
you need to use 100 percent silicone but i have been siding for 15 years and have never had a piece come off
@beebob1279
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice Thank you. I've got nothing to lose. I'm tired of it coming off.
@harryballsacky
3 жыл бұрын
AMATEUR
@user-md4vd8lh5c
3 ай бұрын
You can find the lowest point on the house, and make all your corners that size. Then install the siding parallel to the house, and you won't get this problem. The top row will not have angle, this gives your install a more polished look. The under sill piece should work better in this case!
@elaney49
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@tminer2110
2 жыл бұрын
not bad idea but I just use scrap top lock tab and about 3 inches of siding from cut scrap siding (top of siding) slide into j channel nail flat to wall then measure height needed to lock tab stuff into lock tab and bam it will not let go.... as long as you measure height right. if you really want to use silicone then put into scrap lock tab.
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@terrig8431
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was in such a bind and this cleared everything up.
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@hs1847
9 ай бұрын
I like your tatooed ring not going to losing a finger. smart!
@roofer850channel4
3 жыл бұрын
I either do that or put fascia nails in it under the bar. If it's really high, I put colored pole barn screws in it. It will NOT come off and is replaceable.
@beebob1279
Жыл бұрын
My neighbor is a retired builder and he told me to do the same thing. I asked about room to move and he said it's not an issue. The directions to my siding when I sided the house twenty some years ago was not to caulk or nail the top strip. I'm put up the dutch lap siding from Alcoa.
@queentishay85
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏿 thanks so much
@ezyjack826
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great video. I'm going to be siding a steel shipping container. how can I attach the siding since I can't nail it? ty for any assistance you can give.
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
In order to do vinyl siding you will have to screw in some 1x3 lumber or something every 16 inches to nail your siding and trim. that is the best way I can think of
@ezyjack826
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice thanks for the reply.
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
@@ezyjack826 no problem
@beachboardfan9544
2 жыл бұрын
Whats a tube of silicone cost? Thats got to be way more expensive than using undersill and snap lock punches
@Lifes_Apprentice
2 жыл бұрын
it cost about 4 bucks. it doesnt really save money this way but saves alot of time and will not fall off
@biologymajor1
Жыл бұрын
Well, since a 12ft strip of undersill is 10.48 right now, I vote for the caulk lol
@beachboardfan9544
Жыл бұрын
@@biologymajor1 Holy fuck is it really that expensive right now!? Used to be around 6$
@pa.fishpreacher6166
Жыл бұрын
Do you silicone the top also or is it just inside the J?
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
I only silicone the top piece of siding where it hooks onto lower piece
@pa.fishpreacher6166
Жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice thank you
@beebob1279
Жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice I commented to you about a year ago on this. I haven't done the caulking yet because I'm concerned about the directions saying not to do it this way. Yet I'm tired of the siding coming down. Tomorrow it Labor Day and my neighbor is going to the home improvement store. I guess I'll do it then.
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
@@beebob1279 Don't worry about it because when you caulk it it will not fall down
@beebob1279
Жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice I adjusted the under sill to see if that works. I may have to drop it another 1/4 inch to make it hold. I'm thinking the house settle a bit and I have to drop the under sill a bit to keep the top siding up. IF this doesn't work out comes the caulk.
@jacobjustdoit941
3 жыл бұрын
I do that to on low pitch angles but like you said, it oozes out where the holes are. I always dab it like a I was pounding a nail but not were the holes are one less thing to clean up. I’m not hating at all just saying what I do, like you do, keep hustling
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
dabbing would definitely work. a little oozing out isnt the end of the world assuming you dont get it on the siding
@roofinggod1540
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea 👍. Someone will inevitably complain... But that will honestly just be because they are jealous they aren't doing what you're doing. Keep it up! Be safe brother 💪
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
im sure someone will tell me it is wrong. works for me and sick of fixing peoples stuff who does it different
@darcycolborne2565
Жыл бұрын
This is a stupid question, but how do you cut the last piece of siding? I have almost 100' of perimeter, and the skill saw shatters the vinyl and yellow metal snips are excruciating for that amount of lineal footage.
@Lifes_Apprentice
Жыл бұрын
we use snips but you can use a razor knife and cut it or use a grinder with a metal cut off wheel
@darcycolborne2565
Жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice thanks for the reply!
@natethegr8230
Жыл бұрын
There's special saw blades just for siding. You could also flip your regular saw blade around so it's backwards.
@dw1284
Ай бұрын
Turn the blade backwards on your skil saw. Use small tooth blade like for paneling. You won't shatter the siding.
@jasonantonation8787
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, opinions are fine. Undersill inside of j-channel with punched tabs on the siding is how the products are engineered to work.
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
this piece is cut on an angle bud. would have loves to see you get that in undersill. i dont like call backs thats why i do this
@jasonantonation8787
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprenticeya well, apprentice is in your name, bud...
@harmandhaliwal8287
Жыл бұрын
Can you install soffits on vinal siding without j
@hhprogressiveconstruction1140
3 жыл бұрын
We caulk in between the weep holes and throw some trim nails in the weep holes .
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
no need for nails with the caulk i think
@hhprogressiveconstruction1140
3 жыл бұрын
Life's Apprentice It’s my added insurance not a lot just made two or three a full length piece .
@Joe_H_
3 жыл бұрын
So not need, the caulk will hold. Should never put or block the weep holes.
@shifttyyt8477
7 ай бұрын
Dont caulk the holes its a drain hole lol
@georgerogers2419
3 жыл бұрын
That's the only way I do it too
@robertkilgore8405
3 жыл бұрын
Installation wrong. Sorry
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
how would you have installed double 4 dutchlap in this spot?
@andyk6325
2 жыл бұрын
*crickets
@crispychicken2743
Ай бұрын
What about expansion and contraction. Your way is the fast way out. Have you ever just nailed the hell out of the top piece , the. Paint the nail heads. You will not be on my development .
@Lifes_Apprentice
Ай бұрын
100% silicone allows for expansion and contraction. If you are looking for subs for your "developement" project and watching "how to" videos on youtube you are not doing your job bud
@MrTtillub
3 жыл бұрын
What a cobble job , i wouldn't want you siding my house...!
@Lifes_Apprentice
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@dAdventure1
2 ай бұрын
@@Lifes_Apprentice That's fine, you can do the siding my house. It will look good when finished and I prefer my siding to stay on the house!
@shaneboulos5714
Ай бұрын
Dead wrong. These are the ones that blow off. Undersill and the sl5 punch are the absolute best way. Been doing this 30 years. This is pure lazy with a waste of money
@Lifes_Apprentice
Ай бұрын
You cannot use undersill on an angled cut like this bud
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