just wait till 3am and you are completely hammered. it's borderline godly.
@PeevedUK
2 жыл бұрын
TRUTH BOMB.
@Coolbillion
2 жыл бұрын
The 3am Döner is truly a meal fit for mount olympus
@OttoStrawanzinger
2 жыл бұрын
This guy döners.
@illbill99
2 жыл бұрын
I had one for the first time around that time absolutely hammered. It in more of a burrito wrap rather than a sandwich form. Anyone know what that version is called? It was insane with a garlic sauce.
@pogomaster8364
2 жыл бұрын
@@illbill99 Dürüm Döner
@Coolbillion
2 жыл бұрын
For the bread there's one more thing worth mentioning: A popular alternative is the "Dürüm Döner", which is basically the same thing, but served in a thin wheat wrap, rolled up tight. If you want to offend someone you could probably compare it to a burrito
@svenfrosterud6362
2 жыл бұрын
it's just a wrap, why does it need to be compared to a burrito. A generic wrap is closer since burritos usually have beans and ricr
@lukewithann7256
2 жыл бұрын
Karlsruhe (not sure if it's exclusive to that city but i haven't seen it anywhere else) has Yufka which is almost like a Döner Burrito. It's absolutely amazing
@JamesPotts
2 жыл бұрын
@@svenfrosterud6362 but isn't a burrito just a wrap? 😁
@zyrano24
2 жыл бұрын
@@lukewithann7256 NUR DER KSC
@enderep12
2 жыл бұрын
@@lukewithann7256 It's the same. I've only ever seen "Yufka" here in the south of Germany.. Everywhere else it's usually called "Dürüm"... Yufka technically is the name of the bread/wrap itself whereas "Dürüm" means "a wrap made of Yufka bread with Döner meat, veggie, etc. filling"... So the actual name of the dish itself is Dürüm... As to why it's called Yufka in the Karlsruhe region -> I have no freaking clue :D
@Lix999
2 жыл бұрын
As a German, i gotta give you big props. I haven‘t even seen any German KZitemr post this good of a Döner recipe. Your pronunciation was terrible tho but at least you tried
@RichardMaassen
2 жыл бұрын
Made me cringe every time 😂 But still: great video as always!
@juliopaveif
2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardMaassen hahahaha Dooner kebab
@feedmeseymour954
2 жыл бұрын
Had me in stitches, in Australia Doona is a common word for a duvet / Bettdecke
@betaich
2 жыл бұрын
Than you haven't watched Andongs video about the Döner and his recipe of the end of the video.
@kool_dud8547
2 жыл бұрын
düner
@Stovaa
9 ай бұрын
Every time he says "dooner" I die inside.
@KunigasSuvirintojas
4 ай бұрын
Same
@MatthewLeBleu
4 ай бұрын
Girl, same.
@spuckuk7039
4 ай бұрын
even British people can pronounce this right
@4RedDwarf3
4 ай бұрын
@@spuckuk7039 We sure can, its a Donna Kebab.
@MyDarlin1
4 ай бұрын
came to say the same Dooner is killing me. I wish Andon would have given him a better lesson on how to say it
@nicgrassl5218
2 жыл бұрын
My heart fluttered when I saw this! Was in Germany for 4 years, then back to the states in 2015, and since then I miss döner with a furious passion. I haven't found a single place near me that comes close. Now I can finally show my wife what I've been talking about!
@nkjoep
2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong 💪
@Dj_Tim_G
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it exist in the USA ?
@remedios3895
2 жыл бұрын
I missed doner so much when i lived in Italy for 3 years
@Gepstra
2 жыл бұрын
Everything can be recreated man, good luck 💪
@amak1131
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dj_Tim_G There isn't too many. Only 1 was by me and that was still 2hrs away. I miss these so much from Latvia...
@mynameisandong
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it Ethan!! Your Döner looks amazing and will make Berliners proud. Keep spreading the gospel :) It was so much fun taking you around town and showing you my favorite Döner spots!!
@yannicwelle4021
2 жыл бұрын
right after seeing the thumbnail I instantly guessed it the video will be featured by you ^^
@kaythevillain1
2 жыл бұрын
Living Legend!
@yasinm8472
2 жыл бұрын
It is disappointing Andong that you didn't know about vertical döner spits in Turkey? It only existed for over a hundred years.. It is literally in every street corner.... Horizontal spits is a different food altogether, which is cooked and served differently. Truly, there is 1 difference between döner in Turkey and Germany, and that is the quality of meat. Why do you think your sandwiches are smothered in strong tasting sauces in Germany? You cannot taste the meat at all. Your sauce's function is to mask the taste of the low-quality meat. I ate döner many times in my business trips in Germany, and it is really awful. Emulsified meat? That's just mystery meat (!) served in a sea of sauces. A good quality döner has an ideal balance of animal fats, charring from fire and soft textured protein. It doesn't require additional fats or smoke flavor that come from your sauces. I recommend you eat your Berlin döners without any sauce and to actually taste your meat, then try the same in İstanbul.. You will have your world rocked..
@SirBalageG
2 жыл бұрын
king of döner
@Seattle41791
2 жыл бұрын
Nadav Gablinger is a great Berlin guide if anyone visiting could use a guide. He is full of Germany and Berlin knowledge.
@moi-wn1hs
2 жыл бұрын
As a Berliner living in the states I finally have a recipe how to create my favorite fast food without having to buy strange equipment. Thank you Ethan!
@bydsarrett0
2 жыл бұрын
Mein Beileid, ich würds auch vermissen 😂
@michaels2219
2 жыл бұрын
As an American living in Berlin, I'm hopping on my bike and riding the entire two blocks to my closest Döner shop. Sorry (not sorry) to rub it in. Guten Appetit und schönes Wochenende!
@moi-wn1hs
2 жыл бұрын
Well, next time you two will have to order two and have one for me as well!
@thesupergreenjudy
2 жыл бұрын
Mein Mitgefühl..Ich bin in England. Auch nicht besser 🤣
@temp4954
2 жыл бұрын
Is it really pronounced “dew-ner” in Berlin? In the UK everyone calls it “dah-ner” kebab
@danielminister8414
Жыл бұрын
To get the same Airbubbles you just have to a) use an ofen that can spray water in to make steam b) heat the oven very hot and then take 1 cup of water and put it directly on the ground so it steams up or on an ofen plate and then put instantly the bread in c) let it rest for another 30 minutes after you formed it, so it will get much fluffier
@onkelbo7897
Жыл бұрын
Besides heat & water, the secret is to use just a tiny amount of yeast (1 sachet per Kg of flour), more salt (32g per Kg) and about 60% of water. Let the dough rest for 24h in the fridge (yes, no warm place). This ratio of ingredients + time is important to build the perfect gluten structure which is responsible for big air pockets aka the cloudiness.
@miskatonic6210
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to cooking in most cases the secret is: time. Let the yeast do its work. It's also way more digestible and therefore healthy.
@ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim
Жыл бұрын
Yep, you got it. Thanks. You can do all the "hearth oven" tricks and it still won't give you those perfect holes unless you're lucky.
@SubrosaRose
9 ай бұрын
Maybe its sour dough, you know sour dough give big clouds/ air pockets. But I dunno.
@bsheldon2000
8 ай бұрын
From having cooked fluffy Yorkshire Pudding in muffin tins, where lard or oil is heated in the oven before the dough is added, I think the secret may be starting off hot. Similar to eggs, start off on sizzling hot pan, eggs are fluffy, start cold, eggs are rubbery.
@drisraptor2992
2 жыл бұрын
Hello, important thing to notice is that especially in commercially made Pide bread they do not use egg wash but "bulamasi", which is basically yoghurt, egg, water and pekmez (grape molasses) which is then heated to combine and that is then generously brushed on the bread. The second part to get that commercial pide fluffiness and especially the longevity of it is adding both backing powder and maltodextrin after the resting period. Hope this helps
@Lex4122
2 жыл бұрын
You just made my day, i´m hunting for the secret of that fluffy airyness of the bread. Can you go into more detail abouzt the baking Powder and Maltodextrin? You said after the resting period, so just mix it in after the first combining of the starter and the rest of stuff hast rested? Any ideas of how much of that stuff?
@drisraptor2992
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lex4122 yes, mix it into the remaining flour you add after the starter, for 1kg of dough I use around 5g of baking powder and bit less than 10g of maltodextrin.
@Lex4122
2 жыл бұрын
@@drisraptor2992 Thank you so so much!!! :)
@kurapikakurta3863
2 жыл бұрын
your comment needs to be pinned.
@ribidimi
2 жыл бұрын
as a turkish person it is very entertaining to hear you speak turkish, aka trying to say "döner" hehehe. yes, döner is turkish and existed in turkey for a very long time before coming to germany. the bread is turkish pide, or turkish dürüm bread (wrap style). the difference about the german style döner is the type of salad (lettuce, red cabbage) and some sauces. in turkey they like to put in peppers, tomatoes, cucumber and fried potatoes too sometimes, also some type of hot sauce love you, greetings from a turkish-german girl :)
@Erksah68
2 жыл бұрын
Duner for life
@MillhouseSpeaks
2 жыл бұрын
Türkiye
@tommihommi1
2 жыл бұрын
good German döner shops also have diced peppers, tomatoes, cucumber, and Acılı Ezme
@KitsuneHB
2 жыл бұрын
Fried potatoes? That would perfectly fit into Germany's cuisine. :D I mean - some people even call us Germans "Kartoffeln" (potatoes) and I think it's beautiful. :D
@tasadem20
2 жыл бұрын
@@Erksah68 I read this with a German accent. Love it!
@theovertyrant2620
2 жыл бұрын
I love Andong! He's got such a great style in his own videos, Great recipes and he really gives you these unique ways to make adaptations that you can use in a lot of different ways if you pay attention.
@zitools
2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching andongs potato & kettle chips video.
@magicvibrations5180
2 жыл бұрын
I came for the food but stayed for the history lessons. His channel is the best.
@MarkusAT
9 ай бұрын
His pronunciation of döner, pita etc. is really something 😂
@babomeister8034
5 ай бұрын
Dooner and P-day 🤣 It's Pide tho, not Pita
@ayejayuu49
5 ай бұрын
It's so different from how us Brits say it. Donna vs Dooner? Who would you ask for the 'correct' pronunciation?
@hendrixinfinity3992
4 ай бұрын
@@ayejayuu49 It's definitely not Dooner. Turkish would probably say Durner as in burner, Germans probably similar. Who else do we ask, the Dutch?
@SamBrickell
4 ай бұрын
As an American if I dare to even notice how terrible people are at speaking English I'm "racist". Seriously, any time we point it out we get screamed at: *"English isn't their first language!"* But at the same time EVERY SINGLE person in the World feels free to criticize Americans if we don't pronounce a word in the exact same way it's pronounced in their particular town. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
@danielholdsworth6800
4 ай бұрын
No need to get upset. The commenters above are English, they're talking about how the American guy in the video says Doner. In England we say "doner" like dinner with a o. The guy in the vid says "dooner". Maybe he's right and is saying it like the Germans say it? @@SamBrickell
@Obsidianen
2 жыл бұрын
Little tip for the red cabbage: Its way better if its slightly pickled. The sour note cuts through the fat and really brings it all together. (You also want to add the feta, if you like a bit of creamyness in your döner!)
@96Cthulhu96
2 жыл бұрын
Came here to suggest the same thing.. The red cabage usually is quite sweet when pickled, adding a nice contrast to the other veggies :) Definetely seems up this channels alley to try doing it at home.
@LusseB
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he messed up
@OleVinny
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it may sound like a detail but that's what lifts this dish from really damn good to absolutely glorious. Especially the feta... those melty bits of tangy cheese...
@LusseB
2 жыл бұрын
@18:54 is it even toasted?
@Obsidianen
2 жыл бұрын
@@LusseB it is toasted but not intensive enough i think xD there are no burned parts
@salesi712
2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to go to Germany but I have been to Istanbul - agreed that it is COMPLETELY different in Turkey. The ones in Turkey were beyond amazing and these look fantastic as well. Loving these Europe episodes - keep up the great work!!!
@darius2640
3 ай бұрын
I like how every country has a different way of stuffing meat into dough. Universally liked combo
@nightshadoew436
9 ай бұрын
As a Turkish person who has eaten döner in Berlin I can confirm Turkish and German döners are very different. Forexample one pf the differences that wasn’t mentioned was that while pide döner isn’t unheard of in Turkey it is very rare. The bread is generally just normal bread (infact you order it as quarter/half/full bread to indicate your portion size) or even more commonly it is just a wrap.
@sylvienguyen1010
9 ай бұрын
Do you know if they are halal. I'm planning a trip with my bff/sista
@nightshadoew436
9 ай бұрын
@@sylvienguyen1010 If the food is hala it will say so on the window or on menu. Germany had a lot of halal restaurants, you don’t need to worry about not being able to find hala food
@ZakariaAli-v2w
9 ай бұрын
Europeans will never replicate foods from the global south just look at Israel
@XMysticHerox
9 ай бұрын
The majority of Döner places are Halal. @@sylvienguyen1010
@OG-ge8nu
9 ай бұрын
There is no german döner ... its just different in germany ... it is still turkish
@chrisalvino812
2 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Berlin, I ate one almost every day. They're freaking amazing
@McChimpy1
Жыл бұрын
That couldn’t have been healthy haha. Although I’d probably end up doing the same thing if it was me.
@ghosthunter0950
Жыл бұрын
@@McChimpy1 It's actually surprisingly healthy. as in it's not necessarily "healthy" food, but It's way better than any fastfood chain burger place or anything of the sort, the meats are just way better, and you could get it yourself at a butcher shop. if you give up/reduce the bread and make sure the fat is at a good ratio eating it almost daily is gonna be better than the diets of 90% of people.
@henrycooper4213
Жыл бұрын
The unhealthy part is the bread, if they started doing wholemeal wraps and bread then it would be a healthy balanced meal. Fat, protein, carbs, veg. If you have a little sauce maybe spicy you will be fine. Perfectly healthy meal.
@corbancosmin6407
Жыл бұрын
@@henrycooper4213 wraps are shawarma
@ghosthunter0950
Жыл бұрын
@@henrycooper4213 Where I live we have a type of really thin bread it's like tortillas but thinner and larger. you just wrap it around a few times. goes amazing with the meat and veggies.
@HungryManKitchen
2 жыл бұрын
Happy that you highlighted that this is "Berliner" Doner and explaining the difference right in the beginning. As a Turkish guy living in Europe, I sorely miss the Turkish version! Of course, it's a matter of eating habits and taste. Also just a note that the kebab at 2:58 is called "cag kebab", not doner.
@kyllonen06
2 жыл бұрын
When I lived in London i was in the Islington area which had lots of Turkish Doner, as well as a very nice Turkish Barbershop.
@mistaowickkuh6249
2 жыл бұрын
Döner in Turkey is absolutely horrible and ridiculously expensive even by wealthy European standards. Trust me, I've had the final good ones when they were still around. Also no I'm not talking about sauces or garnishes, I'm talking about the meat and everything they do with it.
@42ZaphodB42
2 жыл бұрын
Good thing is, there's a crap ton of turkish restaurants in germany. Turkish food is definitely in my top-3 of favorite food styles.
@DarthDose
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, the "Turkish" version is a rip off... The Kebab itself is Turkish, invented close to Istanbul (the restaurant Iskender, where it was invented, is still in business, 170+ years later, still owned by the same family), the Döner is an invention of Turkish migrants in Germany. Would love a proper Kebab video though, where the original styles are shown, that would be actually interesting
@taha112498
2 жыл бұрын
@@mistaowickkuh6249 I tried döner in turkey and some were absolutely amazing. I live in Germany and I love the original but the turkish version deserves some credit, too.
@neilantonjoseph
2 жыл бұрын
The common sauces really vary between areas in Germany where I’m from (Düsseldorf) most places have yogurt sauce and also cocktail sauce. The Döner Place i grew up with also has 3 different ways to make it spicy: spicy sauce, spicy oil, and chilli flakes. I alway got all three
@leons7758
2 жыл бұрын
Allo bittschon?
@zelos666
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've never seen the sauces mentioned in the video anywhere. It's always either Tsatsiki or Cocktail.
@Franziskus-g3p
2 жыл бұрын
Welchen dönerladen meinste
@Beunibster
2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden, it's typically a yoghurt/mayo garlic sauce and/or a spicy red sauce, but there are so many variations. In the south, the sauce is some sort of pink mixed sauce and has a splash of Fanta in it.
@Merido
2 жыл бұрын
@@Beunibster I think a pinch of cumin and the fanta are the secret ingredients. I had to learn how to make it since going abroad, and if I had to make it from memory: Yoghurt/mayo mix - if there's any choice, a thicker yoghurt allows you to put in more liquids. Make the mix more on the yoghurt side to have it tasting more fresh than fatty. Sweeter kind of pickle juice - for the acid balance; add the pickles finely chopped if you want texture Coarsely ground pepper (quite a lot, you to see pepper throughout the sauce) Garlic - for the umami Cumin - just a pinch for an almost imperceptible background note Fanta - for a citrus note and sweetness to balance the flavours out The challenge (if any) is balancing the yoghurt, pickle juice, and fanta so you get the desired consistency without needing to add liquid which will affect the flavour. Absolutely delicious kebab sauce that can be varied. If you want to be cheeky then put a tiny bit of MSG in there to make the sauce ascend, and then make it more liquid and boom, it's an amazing salad dressing. God I love the Swedish kebab sauce.
@hoovi_989
Жыл бұрын
While stationed in Darmstadt Germany for nearly 6 years I ate many Döners over the years. One of the things I miss most about Germany, can’t wait to make these, thanks for laying it all out in a great video🙌
@oesle1ns
Жыл бұрын
The good old Bodrum Döner. The best of the world!
@thethingthatshouldnotbe3035
Жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing your favourite Döner place there? :)
@ogilazarov9976
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently studying in Darmstadt, as a Bulgarian student I've had my best Dönners in my home city of Varna, tried a couple of Darmstadt Dönners, but nothing tops ours 💪. Feel free to suggest me some.
@ErikTheViking92
Жыл бұрын
@@ogilazarov9976 Visit Berlin. Famous for it's döner.
@kalitri8635
Жыл бұрын
@@ogilazarov9976check out the Döner at palaswiesenstraße, its the best
@pamplemoussefurtif8220
2 жыл бұрын
I often like to prepare some döner kebab like sandwiches at home, and I almost always use pickled red cabbage. I think it goes really well with the other ingredients and the acidic touch it adds is absolutely delicious
@matthiasreitner679
2 жыл бұрын
berliner here. the pickled red cabbage sticks are amazing, yet aren't actually used in a "classic" turkish döner kebap - it's a staple ingredient in syrian-owned shawarma joints tho
@huv123
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthiasreitner679 Yup - Shawarma near me usually has a pickled type red cabbage salad, pickled cucumbers in vinegar orbrine and for some extra yum taste, hot potato fries in it.
@sebastiangio1688
2 жыл бұрын
dont forget to squeeze some lemon onto the pickled red cabbage and your doner
@johobi8675
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! There is another variant of Döner (or "Kebab", which is the more common name where I live) called Dürüm. Instead of the fluffy turkish bread they use what could be described as a huge tortilla bread, essentially turning it into a kind of wrap. Also really good! Greetings from Austria
@utkua
Жыл бұрын
Durum bread is called lavas and it is way thinner than tortilla and not leavened. So durum is better if you watch your carb intake, lower glycemic index as well, durum doner might be the best fast food health wise.
@emirhantan2873
Жыл бұрын
Dürüm - dürmek Döner - dönmek The names of the dishes come from the verbs that exist in Turkish.
@Tan-zi4eh
Жыл бұрын
@@emirhantan2873 Yunanlar da "Dolma"ya "Dolmades" diyor ve sahipleniyorlar. Tam bir komedi.
@penetrationskommentar877
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the Original is better
@johobi8675
Жыл бұрын
@@emirhantan2873 Cool! What do those verbs mean?
@mattgoves3031
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, what a great concept for a video. Not that we don’t love all your other content but the travel mixed with research and then recreation aspect is really great. So many possibilities and your style of food science lends itself so well to it. Keep it up and thanks for all your hard work and content!!
@bernardo9202
2 жыл бұрын
might be a french thing, alex would know
@mattgoves3031
2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardo9202 ??
@bernardo9202
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgoves3031 alex the french cooking guy, look it up
@mattgoves3031
2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardo9202 yea, I know who Alex is, I’m just trying to figure out how he relates to my comment, as far as the style of video Ethan made.
@stevemarshall6564
Жыл бұрын
The frozen shaved chicken technique is so awesome. Perfect for doners, and I've also started doing this for chicken for tacos and salads (using whatever seasonings I'm feeling). Thanks man.
@kokngonose
7 ай бұрын
you need to eat this while petting turkish angora beside you lol
@seanmalloy7249
4 ай бұрын
I have to wonder how it would work to sous vide the meat to cook it, then either cut it thinly or run it through a meat slicer set thin, so you only need to put a quick sear on the slices; this would let you cook the chicken while you are making the pide.
@Bloodray19
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a bread beaker, but I've been making pizza and bread at home for 6 years. You said you did one stretch and fold. Now a way to achieve a really airy bread with cavernous bubbles, also the chewy texture, is to overknead it. You should either put it into a stand mixer for 10-15 minutes or do like 4-5 s&f sessions to achieve this.
@concatinate
Жыл бұрын
This is important. Also try to use a lower protein flour**, American good AP flours can have too high protein percentage.. **which is also the secret for airy baguettes with soft yet chewy interior.
@kahyui2486
Жыл бұрын
What about if I knead it the same amount he did and then put in the fridge over night, would that achieve same results? I'm asking cos I'm lazy. The less knead the better lol
@concatinate
Жыл бұрын
@@kahyui2486 oh yes, that works too (and is very convenient. I've left dough in the fridge for 48+ hours with no harm to the finished product.)
@aliciaa7831
2 жыл бұрын
Always really enjoy your videos, including this one! But you know... "Ö" is not pronounced "oo", every time you said "dooner" my blood pressure increased haha... this comment helped it drop again. Thank you and good night from Europe!
@Cubeforc3
2 жыл бұрын
After he said it for the 100th time I had to come to the comments because it made me irrationally angry 😂. The friendly German guy even pronounces it the right way so why not just copy him.
@blunted215
2 жыл бұрын
this was bothering the hell out of me, then I came to the comments and nearly no one was correcting him because his followers are just too nice 😂
@MarcoSpaceMan276
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cubeforc3 I thought I was going insane, I've never heard it called that way my whole life in Canada and assumed that I was just wrong this whole time.
@joecursio4160
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed the chapter title is misspelled as “‘doner.” If you cannot spell it as “döner,” I think it is better spelled as “doener”
@hey_james
2 жыл бұрын
I had to turn it off, it was so irritating 😂
@papabone9125
2 жыл бұрын
Every person in Berlin has his own favorite döner store. My self, I eat only in my store for almost 30 years now, that is almost a Law!! Great video. Next time, you should try the difference between curry-wurst stores and their different flavors !!
@TheBSE
2 жыл бұрын
My friend, what's the one you recommend, if you don't mind sharing? Best Gemüse Kebap near Rathaus Neukölln is my personal favorite.
@lostincyberspaceIII
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a chance to make it to Berlin yet, but I do have a favorite Döner Laden in Essen and I always bring people there when I go.
@papabone9125
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBSE for gemüse kebap I am out. I tried several but just don't like it. But grade that you found one!
@emileb7085
2 жыл бұрын
Keb'up near Nollendorfplatz U-bahn till I die!!
@piworower
2 жыл бұрын
not ture, all doener are beautiful :D but... yeah.... IMRIN GRILL for the win
@hmpeter
4 ай бұрын
Only two sauces? When my Dönermann asks: "Mit alle Soße?", I say: "Ja bitte!"! I think this is the way he intended it to be, and it is glorious. Great video! :D
@amarug
2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the differences, my guess for "improving" the texture of home made pita bread (i.e. to get closer to the store bought one) would be to increase the amount of gluten formed to start with. So some crazy extra kneading or much longer autolyse times (without adding the salt at first). Also use the strongest flour you can find and/or add some extra gluten directly to the flour. That will increase that addictive "chew" while at the same time allowing the CO2 of the yeast to create bigger pockets of air, as the extra gluten network stretches better, leading to a fluffy yet chewy experience. Also let the bread rest a little longer after spreading it to the pan.
@MrDukeSilverr
2 жыл бұрын
Or add diastatic malt powder
@NarwhoI
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking he wanted something closer to asian bread or mochi, which probably means using tapioca flour instead of all purpose. Although most people might not have that in their kitchen.
@zio_tungst3no297
2 жыл бұрын
@@NarwhoI also japanese bread is made by adding hot milk into the flour, this allows to gelatinise the starches, the results are a more chewy and elastic bread, although it won’t have big pockets of air because the crumb will be denser. The closest thing that this type of bread reminded me are some types of focaccia that are typical in Puglia and other regions here in Italy.. It probably needs a stronger gluten development and a longer fermentation for the big air pockets and yeasty flavour, also some oil and/or milk to change the texture of the crumb and crust, otherwise it will be too similar to normal loaves of bread
@gnampf1808
2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically this is a great option but after toasting the bread and pushing it flat regardless the difference is not that noticeable
@jeanahollings
2 жыл бұрын
maybe bread flour for more chew?
@qmoonp4923
2 жыл бұрын
your döner version looks awesome! i like that you didnt go the "make the meat stick" copycat route but rather came up with the chicken shave method to achieve your goal!
@KRYMauL
2 жыл бұрын
Andong’s meatloaf way was pretty ingenious.
@AllegraAelfwynnnKing
2 жыл бұрын
Was so excited to see Andong joining you for this video! 😁 You two have been my favourite food-tubers for years now. Can't wait to try these out! x
@chrisclower685
Жыл бұрын
To make the bread lighter and airier, you can try letting it ferment for longer. I'm not really a bread maker, but I make a lot of pizza at home. Whenever I ferment the bread for a week vs something like 24 hours, it always comes out lighter and with much larger air pockets.
@supermannnnn
9 күн бұрын
u cold ferment in the fridge?
@chrisclower685
9 күн бұрын
@@supermannnnn So after I make dough, I always let it sit in a large sealed container at room temperature in the dark for 1-2 hours to get the first rise. After the first rise I go ahead and cold ferment it in the fridge, yep. 72 hours minimum, 5 days is a little bit better, but there is diminishing returns after you go past 72 hours.
@dwezzy28
Жыл бұрын
I tried out this recipe and I thought it would be too hard for me but it came out great! Best white sauce i’ve ever had and the bread was so beautifully soft. Basically a cloud sandwich
@snifey7694
8 ай бұрын
The revelation of the garlic sauce strike again!
@mrsp5808
Жыл бұрын
I ate this as a kid in berlin..so delicious. I have NEVER and I mean NEVER been able to find that taste anywhere else..absolutely delicious😋😋
@nesnalica
Жыл бұрын
MSG?! fuiyoh ! Im a native asian-german and when youtube recommended me this video and I saw the thumbnail I had to watch it. You did an amazing job in catching the authentic Döner Kebab and recreating it at home! Not to mention the MSG is spot on. It may not mean much but you earned a new subscriber today ♥
@jimmymamedov1544
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@jimmymamedov1544
5 ай бұрын
Fuiyoooh
@z33r0now3
4 ай бұрын
When food is so good, you have to put your leg down 😊
@jeffjohnson6922
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Back when we were young, my wife worked for a German family who ran a local restaurant called “The Doner Haus.” She’d bring me home a doner from work and they were always amazing, especially when she’d sneak in extra meat. They sadly closed years ago, and I’ve been chasing that Doner high ever since.
@beageler
8 ай бұрын
I'm always a bit confused that other countries don't seem to get Döner. And I mean all countries I've been to, yet (and tried their version of Döner). Netherlands, France, England, Belgium, even Turkey. They sell meat in bread there, not Döner. The post credit scene in Avengers is a good example, I'm just sad because I know they just eat meat in bread not Döner.
@LeegallyBliindLOL
3 ай бұрын
@@beageler Yeah, it's like when the Turks claim they have the same/original in Turkiye. But they don't know or realize that it's not the same... You can mess with a Döner's ingredients but the bread, the meat and the sauces are very specifically spiced and prepared. That's what makes a Döner a Döner. I heard from so many people who tried it in other countries that they did not enjoy it as much and then when I told them to try one here and they finally did, they all instantly changed their opinions, after trying it at a random Döner place somewhere in Germany.
@Scyths1
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating how the culture around döner kebab is so different between Germany & Belgium. From the bread used to the meats and sauces used.
@Bleebob01
Жыл бұрын
in the uk its bascially fake meat in a box. it only becomes edible when ur drunk tbh
@kire929
Жыл бұрын
@@Bleebob01 UK food moment
@allroundlad
Жыл бұрын
@@Bleebob01 the chicken is much better, just get kofte, atleast that's not processed fake filler shit
@chivasroco1752
Жыл бұрын
well in my opinion there is only döner in Berlin, everything else is an ungodly crime against nature.
@haneef4189
Жыл бұрын
@@Bleebob01 If you want real doner go to Turkey
@ryantmz
2 жыл бұрын
To save time on freezing meat and then slicing it thin, I bought thinly cut meat slices (meant for Chinese hotpot). Saves loads of time and made this a good weekday lunch/ dinner option 😀
@BeefinOut
2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Germany for years and I've yearned for an at home döner recipe ever since I came back to the states. Thanks so much for making this video! Next time you're in the area, you gotta try a dürüm, sometimes called a Turkish pizza. Similar vein as a döner, but it's grilled in this one-of-a-kind wrap that's crispy and fluffy and super well seasoned.
@matusmesik5855
2 жыл бұрын
Turkische Pizza is the best one
@nicoviebrock5348
2 жыл бұрын
You Mean a Lahmacun? Like a grilled crispy rollo? at least we know it as Lahmacun
@timseyer6769
2 жыл бұрын
Dürüm is actually sort of like a Döner kebab wrap with a flour "tortilla" for lack of a better word instead of the bread. Lahmacun or türkische pizza is probably the same tortillaesque dough but with a sauce including some minced meat tomato and spices all ready on there and traditionally stuffed with Döner kebab fillings.
@misterinternational
2 жыл бұрын
The dürüm wrap is Lavash bread
@danm8004
2 жыл бұрын
Turkish pizza is something else entirely, not the doner wrap.
@maccatt7274
9 ай бұрын
In the UK, we have Doner Kebads (pronounced Donna, like the girl's name), served in pitta bread. The shops are ran by Turkish or Greek folks. Typically doner meat is lamb, shish is minced lamb, Chicken is an option. Sauces offered are chilli and or garlic.
@WaddedBliss
9 ай бұрын
Most of the places round here serve them in fresh naans done in a tandoor. I live where there's a high population of mostly Pakistani heritage people.
@graeme5060
8 ай бұрын
It's not pronounced, "Dooner" anywhere. I half think he's doing this to blow up the comments.
@Lunatix246
8 ай бұрын
@@graeme5060 Haha, yeah. I was a bit tilted about that. I think he's trying to pronounce the umlaut above the o that shouldn't even be there.
@nickb144
8 ай бұрын
Why do Americans insist on butchering the pronunciation of European names!
@Lunatix246
8 ай бұрын
@@nickb144 The same reason they start sentences with "I mean" and "Literally". I suppose haha
@torstenmadsvin1153
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love Andong’s stuff as well, so great to see u guys collaborating! Döner is my favourite sandwich and Berlin my favourite city, so nothing but praises from me. Its like u compiled all the döner knowledge from the existing KZitem channels and this video is now the new Ground zero where all the home döner chefs should start! Great Job!
@TheBullyification
2 жыл бұрын
As a Turk living in NL for several months, soon I'll visit Berlin and try those because it is evolved to a completely different thing than the traditional ones in Turkey. Of course, in my heart nothing could beat the Turkish style and I strongly recommend you to try the traditional styles. In Turkey we generally eat döner with pide or gobit or lavaş. These are all breading types. You should never add sauce, generally just eat döner with only onions with sumac. Also Ayran is a staple drink alongside it. Cheers Ethan.
@sebastiangio1688
2 жыл бұрын
a turk named ethan?
@aqirate
2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangio1688 Cheers were to the youtuber. If you look closely his name is "Ethan Chlebowski" :D
@RafiGish
2 жыл бұрын
In what hole in NL do you live that you think you need to go to Berlin for a Döner Kebab?
@Kenan-Z
2 жыл бұрын
@@RafiGish What a question! You got me laughing so hard
@gizuki
2 жыл бұрын
This just warms my turkish-german heart. Although i had to laugh evertime you said a turkish oder german word😂💙
@zack1140
Жыл бұрын
I've watched all kinds of videos of people reviewing comfort foods from different countries and it's always fun, but it's somehow even better watching one from my own. The perspective and appreciation of a newcomer to this is just funny in a good way and I'm constantly laughing. Idk how to describe it. Now I wanna eat a Döner or Dürüm.
@Exiled_Rouge
2 жыл бұрын
I will never not be amazed at Ethan taking giant bites and attacking every dish like a ravenous beast. A legend.
@tamsonebarley3520
2 жыл бұрын
I made these in a few hours for dinner today. It was AWESOME. Thanks for posting! The whole family loved it. Definitely a comforting, refreshing, nourishing repeatable recipe. Also seems really good for feasts with lots of people because there is soooo much bread produced and everyone can do their own toppings how they like it, very riff-able.
@acmenipponair
Жыл бұрын
And studies in Germany even showed that because of the incredients a Döner is healthier than many other fast food products. It has much less salt and fat than other fast food meals and because the veggies are fresh it also has much vitamins
@marianne953
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t usually leave comments online but hands on this is the best recipe there is online, it reminds me the first time eating a Döner and it’s been a search for the same taste ever since as I moved country. To be honest it tastes better than my local kebab shop!!! I’ve already told all my friends about this recipe thank you so much for sharing it!
@omarbabakarkhail
Жыл бұрын
Check out Andong as well, for the most authentic recipe.
@marianne953
Жыл бұрын
@@omarbabakarkhail is it that video where he puts the chicken in the oven you’re referring to?
@spencercamp4558
7 ай бұрын
My wife came home and saw I was slicing frozen chicken thighs (she hates chicken thighs) and got super worried what I was making was about to be trash. She was blown away. Great recipe and thanks for all the research you do!!
@adrianzo6098
Жыл бұрын
The key for getting that elastic texture of the bread is the flour they use for making this kind of bread, which is called "durum", which basically means type 000 flour, or AAA. It has the highest gluten content, the gluten is basically the "magic ingredient".
@TedBarton91
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that and dough conditioner 😂
@qwackkk
2 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting. I didn't even know there are so many differences inside of germany when in comes to Döner. I live near Frankfurt and here there usually isn't a herb or a chili sauce. You usually have a choice between garlic or yoghurt sauce. If you want it hot, your local Dönermann sprinkles some chili flakes on it. And to be honest, I have been to Berlin before, I always thought a Gemüsekebab was a veggie kebab, so I never bothered to try. Gotta have one when I visit Berlin next time, because those I think are a Berlin exclusive. Nice video btw! :)
@mnordpol7805
2 жыл бұрын
I was at one döner store and they served it with sauce on top with these roasted onions and additional meat. This combination was soo tasty and crunchy! There are endless possibilities on how you can redesign various food and make it better. It's really fascinating!
@boosteddrimmsu
2 жыл бұрын
Where I'm from (in Saxony), the choice for sauces are usually "Kräuter oder Knoblauch", so herbal or garlic. If you want it spicy, differing between different Döner places, some put on spicy chili flakes, some put on chili sauce and some even do both.
@mnordpol7805
2 жыл бұрын
@@boosteddrimmsu here in Dresden are a lot of döner stores that also offer the yoghurt chili sauce as far as I know
@thesupergreenjudy
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I grew up in Bavaria it's more like yours
@21productions19
2 жыл бұрын
Yes Hessen Gang! Or I think you could say that's the common way of preparing Döner in middle Germany.
@nicholasmaiorano2216
2 жыл бұрын
My two favorite food youtubers at it again! Great work, keep these collaborations coming ! You two are awesome :)
@WigglinWorm
9 ай бұрын
One of my fav Turkish delights
@celines3211
2 жыл бұрын
10:24 In Germany, you are not allowed to declare such an „emulsified“ meat as Döner. It has to be declared as „Drehspieß“ because Döner is protected. Although most places just call it Döner because there are so many Döner places that this law can not be enforced 🤣 This is cheap sausage meat. Like Fleischkäse or Fleischwurst.
@piworower
2 жыл бұрын
egal
@TilmanBaumann
2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the taste
@TheBlackEternalWings
2 жыл бұрын
When I was in Berlin for a study abroad, I primarily lived off of this one place's falafel sandwiches, about $3 for an 8 inch sub that were always freshly fried on homemade loaves with a slightly spicy house sauce. The only thing that was better was this fried veal and cheesy macaroni I had from a high end Austrian restaurant on my second to last day.
@louisdouin3996
2 жыл бұрын
Give us the address man
@balbock_2555
2 жыл бұрын
my god you call Käsespätzle ''cheesy macaroni'', as an austrian i feel insulted... and somewhat humored
@TheBlackEternalWings
2 жыл бұрын
@@balbock_2555 couldn't remember the name, it's been several years by this point, and haven't had it since I left. I have traces of Austrian in my blood, but my family doesn't really celebrate it.
@Beunibster
2 жыл бұрын
@@balbock_2555 It means "cheesy spätzle" and spätzle is technically a type of pasta. It's really not that outrageous. 😅
@andresvalverde5182
2 жыл бұрын
@@balbock_2555 As a German i also don't see the connection from Käsespätzle to Macaroni at all. It's like mistaking Beef for chicken.
@alperozturk4575
Жыл бұрын
As a Turk,i can surely say there are huge differences between turkish and german doner even through the roots are same. In Turkey,you can't see any sauce in any meat doner,there is only sliced onion and some vegetables in it. As for the chicken doner,various sauces are used for intensifiying its flavour unlike the meat doner.
@jackjoker5495
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the fries! Turkish Döner has always fries and comes sometimes with pickles.
@sowndolphin5386
Жыл бұрын
through değil though olcak reis
@MrFuegoN
9 ай бұрын
@@jackjoker5495 That is kinda new actually. I am from Bursa(basically birthplace of döner) and most local döner places wouldn't even have fries to go with döner back when i was young. After 2000 or so i started seeing more and more places that put fries inside the wrap or bread. Pickles were common even before though so you are right about that. Also what no one mentions is normally a lot of places have tomato paste(salça) sauce that goes with döner here. It is different from German sauces but almost all chicken döners have sauce.
@OG-ge8nu
9 ай бұрын
As a turk you show us how stupid we turks are by differentiating between german and turkish döner ... there is no german, english, african döner. Döner is turkish and this fact wont change because döner taste different in other countries. You will never find an italian saying a the german pizza is different. He would say you make our pizza different. Well but we dont deserve better as long there are turks like you and your mind set which makes us lose in every field.
@ElGrandeIngenio
4 ай бұрын
There are basically 3 Meats you get Döner in Germany, most Restaurants have Veal and Chicken, but some of them also offer Lamb. I strongly recommend traditional Döner Kebab Spits made with layered Meat instead of the Minced Meat Spit and would recommend Lamb > Veal > Chicken. In Berlin you get them with additional roasted Veggies, but usually they are Meat, Sauce and Salat. If you go for Spicy Döner, make sure to try Ayran as a Drink as it goes really well and is a nice fresh Contrast. Funfact: The machine for spinning the Spits upright was also invented in Germany by a Greek Immigrant.
@isoldeduschen1873
2 жыл бұрын
For the Pide Bread the solution is to use a high glutinous flour (Italian 00) with at least 12% protein (gluten) in it and kneading the dough for at least 20 (!) minutes. Also (for a more original taste) season your chopped onions with Sumak (=Vinegar Tree Powder) if you can find it and fresh mint.
@CLinssner
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I have a sudden craving for Döner. Also, the way you say Döner just absolutely slayed me. Hearing Americans try to pronounce our mutated vowels (I trust in online translation here, for lack of any better way to describe it) is just delightful.
@dintyboy
2 жыл бұрын
Don..er right?
@CLinssner
2 жыл бұрын
@@dintyboy It's not easy to describe how it's supposed to sound to a non-native speaker, I gotta admit.
@frankzj
2 жыл бұрын
@@dintyboy Try saying "Derner" but don't sound the 'R's. Like an English person would.
@ahhitskatie9094
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the “doo”ner had me spitting my drink out 😂
@chickensprint
2 жыл бұрын
@@dintyboy Döner, put it in Google translate Turkish and press the speaker button
@lukask.181
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how different berlin döner is from most döners in southern germany, for instance down here the bread is almost always either of that bun type like the third spot's or a super thin flatbread that is often freshly baked to order and wrapped like a burrito (this is called a dürüm döner), whereas the meat choices are almost exclusively veal and turkey. The sauces available are usually yogurt-tomato and yogurt-garlic, both loaded with tons of herbs, while the heat usually comes in the form of chili flakes. Also the sheer amount of sauce is on an entirely different level compared to berlin usually. Also I personally have not seen a single spot that didn't have red cabbage.
@ezyzet
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I'm from Nuremberg and I feel like our döner is so much better! Exactly as you describe it. Round bun, 2 sauces, "red" and "white" (lol), meat is always turkey or veal, but my favourite dönerman actually uses white cabbage and I prefer it that way :)
@lukask.181
2 жыл бұрын
@@ezyzet I'm from Nuremberg too lol
@illegitimate0
2 жыл бұрын
I have been to Nurnberg and I much preferred the durum doner, which I didn't expect!
@honesto1212
2 жыл бұрын
I lived in 2 times in Nürnberg for longer periods (one recently) and if you think the Döner in N. is better than Berlin or Leipzig, I recommend you better not check them out and keep on living in your false reality :D It will downgrade Nürnbergs Döner game if you have the comparison on day. Not even close.
@lukask.181
2 жыл бұрын
@@honesto1212 what if I told you that there is such a thing called personal preferrence
@waitandbleed2870
Жыл бұрын
You know it really doesnt matter how well its made, its the experience to go in a shop. The shopowner greets you with a „Na Chef“ and then you order the usual. Chicken Kebab with no salad at all
@stephenhawkingsbeautywheel9080
Жыл бұрын
hallobitteschön
@CoolStoryBro455
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenhawkingsbeautywheel9080ajndürüm ohne Schaaf
@marvinko6610
2 жыл бұрын
I'Ve seen so many videos of people trying to make this and none of them really succeeded. In my oppinion as a German guy who has eaten hundreds of these, you nailed it! You even pronnounced it the right way. So tens across the board. And to everyone else reading this: Make this! You will love it
@pulykamell
2 жыл бұрын
I don't care that much about how it's pronounced, but is it really "duner" or "dooner"? I've never heard it that way. I was a little surprised by the pronunciation.
@marvinko6610
2 жыл бұрын
@@pulykamell It’s hard to pronounce for English speaking people, because the phoneme /ø/ is not part of the language. So you would pronounce it /ˈdøːnɐ/. The ö sound is kinda between the o and u sound in your mouth with o being an the top and back of your mouth and u being at the top and in the front of your mouth. So dooner would be closer to the actual sound than donner, because the lengthening the vowel pushed it more towards that ö sound. Also the ö sound is lengthened anyway as indicated by the ː in /ˈdøːnɐ/
@pulykamell
2 жыл бұрын
@@marvinko6610 Sure. It’s a weird game of approximation. Typically, it’s pronounced with an /o:/ at least in British English-I find /ʊ/ (as in “put”) closest for English speakers (but still not right). /u:/ sounds odd to me, that’s all. But others may find it closest. Hard to map phonemes that are lacking from one language to another.
@marvinko6610
2 жыл бұрын
@@pulykamell 100% agree!
@drittevercetti
2 жыл бұрын
Small correction: the food at 2:58 isn't döner, it is cağ kebab (which is another Turkish food). The main difference is you serve cağ kebab on skewers, and unlike döner (the origins of which isn't exactly known) cağ kebab is originated from Erzurum (a province of Turkey).
@LinusIslamTips
Жыл бұрын
Döner Kebaps origin is a guest worker from turkey who opened the first shop in Berlin, Germany.
@hanp2205
Жыл бұрын
doner is a turkish word means 'something that spins' :) im turkish so yeah i know and kebab means meat that is grilled or in oven or whatever it just means cooked meat basically in all forms its called kebab in turkish in ottoman it means cleaned perfected meat
@drittevercetti
Жыл бұрын
@@LinusIslamTips I meant its origins in Turkey. (Like which part of Turkey was it found.)
@drittevercetti
Жыл бұрын
@@hanp2205 knk ben de Türk'üm
@WOLFGANG-BOZKURT
Жыл бұрын
Cag kebab is still a döner...lol i think you dont know what döner MEANS...lol
@Vaesse
2 жыл бұрын
I spent four years in Karlsruhe, Germany in the late 80s-early 90s (just before the wall fell) due to my dad's Army service. I totally fell in love with our local doner kebabs at that time and have missed them since leaving. I'm absolutely going to see if I can make this at home soon. (EDIT: Fixed date)
@mikezait
2 жыл бұрын
The wall fell in 89 and reunification was in 90.
@Vaesse
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikezait Fair... I'm crap with dates. I know we were there at about the time the wall fell because the weekend it fell my father had planned (pre-planned months in advance, long before anyone had a clue, due to security stuff with the Army) a trip to East Berlin. We were on our way in while there were MILES of cars more or less parked heading out. We returned to East Germany mid-week after traffic had cleared. I still have a piece of the wall (with paint on it, that I got from the wall myself) in my jewelry box.
@Brohoe777
4 ай бұрын
This is by FAR the BEST fast food known to man. I lived in Munich and Berlin for a few months. Some days I would 2. I can taste it now. The best
@ichsagnix4127
2 жыл бұрын
A Döner Kebab is very easy to make. You just need 40kg of meat on a skewer and of course "Der Gerät".
@TTrevolverheldTT
2 жыл бұрын
Ethan and Andong... the collab i needed!
@JoKoRn13
2 жыл бұрын
My german heart is melting just by hearing you praise our beloved Döner! :)
@alannolet3109
2 жыл бұрын
*Turkey's beloved Döner. :)
@sebastiangio1688
2 жыл бұрын
@@alannolet3109 its pretty much half turkish and half german... coming from a turk .. us turks dont eat it like that at all
@yasin_ucar
Жыл бұрын
our ? since when did you own döner bruv
@erkankocer6018
6 ай бұрын
@@sebastiangio1688 turkish people made it so its turkish
@eren3390
5 ай бұрын
döner isn’t german ffs. even the word is Turkish, go steal Italian food for once
@NitroDS
7 ай бұрын
i am a turk... i dont like döner... but I am happy to hear you like it!!!
@harkov_416
Жыл бұрын
holy moly, ten years ago i was at germany and still remember the flavor of the Döner. Thanks for the complete guide and recipes, can't wait to try it out.
@puebloblau
2 жыл бұрын
This is probably THE best Döner Kebab Video on the Internet! I think I have never see a more detailed description of an east German style Döner before, not even from a German KZitemr. Great job! Edit: I would love to see you try the western German version. It's basically the same, just with different sauces and a few different veggies. And since there's an ongoing fight about what's better, I'd like to have your opinion. (I'd say east german is way better, even though I live in the west)
@IntoshMac
2 жыл бұрын
the competition in Berlin is huge (Berlin has about a thousand places that sell Döner) so quite logically the Döner standard in Berlin is way higher than in other cities.
@jont2576
2 жыл бұрын
chynese from asia here but not from chyna.......Doner kebab??no offense but thats like saying the shi chuan mala hotpot is france favourite dish,and chicken tikka masala is britiain's national dish ahahahahahahahahhahha!!!!!!!!!! No offense but u can find doner kebabs everywhere in the world,in almost every city and almost every shopping mall.....but for a culture or race or nationality to call another culture's food or dish as your "favourtite" or most popular or "national dish" just how far have the europeans fallen... god its almost like China annoucing that the crossaint is the dish of the emperors and the national dish!!!!with a little bowl of borsch on the side!!! imagine the most german thing is now the doner kebab and the most british thing is muthu curry!!!!! imagine once there were people who once admired the german culture,the schinitzel.......the sausages.......in some bizzare convoluted twist of fate,the most germanic thing today u can eat is the doner kebab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@khano3o439
2 жыл бұрын
@@jont2576 hey, ofc it’s not the most germanic thing to eat a döner but It is a trait of Berlin Berlin is literally 50% muslim
@pixorhd4866
2 жыл бұрын
@@jont2576 dafuq are you on? Chill, btw butter chicken is english national dish lol. Stop getting triggered over food and just enjoy it. Globalised society means everyone eats every food and every culture adapts food a bit differently
@1flybyguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@jont2576 Doner kebab shops like the ones shown in this video aren't as ubiquitous worldwide as you believe them to be. Here in the US we have a close runner up called gyros, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a doner kabab shop made the same way as in Germany. And where is it said that the Doner Kebab was proclaimed as the German national dish. I heard them say it was the most popular street food in Berlin, but what's wrong with that? It was popularized by Turkish immigrants 50+ years ago and is now part of the Berlin culture. Should the Vietnamese find another bread for their Bahn-mis instead of French baguettes? Trying the Doner Kebab on a trip to Germany would be high on my list, but so would Schnitzel, Schweinshaxe, pretzels, wursts of all kinds, cheeses and their baked goods. Stop trying to evaluate everything through your hyper-racial lens, enjoy life, and stop stirring your racist pot.
@SuperVeeveez
2 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! Yes you did!!! I am forever grateful for this video. It’s been more than 20 yrs since I’ve been to Germany and I can not find a place that will come close to that feeling and flavors 💕💕💕
@redheron
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but didn't Andong help you with the proper pronunciation? I winced each time. But I'm soo glad that you are helping to spread this wonderful creation to a larger audience around the globe.... Everyone should have a chance to try this sandwich. Its godly. :)
@bp9696
2 жыл бұрын
lol. He pronounces it like Doooner and I find it absolutely hilarious
@floyder99
Жыл бұрын
I had Döner kebab once in turkey, they baked the bread on a hot stone while i waited. Tomatoesauce, kebab meat, veggies tomato salad, so fresh and pure. Not like sweden where they put tons of mayo on it. It was heaven.
@SAMMYJR00777
Жыл бұрын
yea it is diff huge diff
@JPlokford
2 жыл бұрын
Loving the different pronunciations (to my British ear). Ethan: "Dooner" Andong: "Durner" British: "Donner" In the UK we don't have that bread. We have more of a flatbread or Naan. Also we sometimes call the meat on a spit "Elephants leg". The meat is usually lamb (allegedly).
@brownhues
7 ай бұрын
MSG is never optional in any recipe that includes it. Just add it. You aren't allergic or sensitive or whatever. You eat steak, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc... You already eat MSG.
@TheBourbonWrench
2 жыл бұрын
There was this German man who somehow had permission to setup his food truck (more like a cart) at the PX on base while I was stationed in Germany. He literally only sold Doners, fries, and coca cola. Thinking back on my time there, that dudes Doners makes my top list of things I miss. Probably in my top favorite foods of all time.
@848545f
Жыл бұрын
Turkish food is one of the most delicious food in the world.
@SAMMYJR00777
Жыл бұрын
yup for sure
@Ohykha
Жыл бұрын
I mean, it realy is, cant stop it even though im born in munich and have tasted everything this world offers, still um stuck to turkish kitchen..
@Anton-fg6bm
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t come close to Mexican
@Tom-gf4sg
Жыл бұрын
@@Anton-fg6bmpfffffftttt😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dannydetonator
9 ай бұрын
If you're in Istanbul, it's also dirt cheap and varieties are endless compared to Eurppe. Just don't eat the cheapest ones, they're full of 'salo' type speck fat and in some places a bit disgusting, at least for my taste. Long traditions make for great and varied food, so it's not only Turkey who can claim this.
@dojix96
2 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, the most interesting thing here is definitely our meat choice differences. Kebab places here will always offer either chicken (no veggies mixed in), or the emulsified meat as a combination of lamb and beef. Another note; most Asian grocery shops sell bags of thinly shaved meat intended for hotpot, I wonder if those would be suitable to just buy and use for this.
@OzSteve9801
2 жыл бұрын
In Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide there are a number of places using the layered meat - lamb and beef as you said - but when I lived in Canberra I didn't see any kebab shops. Admittedly that was 30 years ago. I've never seen one offering cabbage but some have coleslaw. Always lettuce, tomato, cucumber and onion.
@zt1788
2 жыл бұрын
It's because of the people who make them. In Aus, most of the kebab places tend to be Arab run, mostly Lebanese. In Germany, Döner places are run almost exclusively by Turks. Two very different cultures making a spit roast meat sandwich. Although at first glance they might be seen as regional variations of the same thing, they're ultimately quite different dishes. Source: Australian chef living and working in Germany
@EpicvidsKetti08
2 жыл бұрын
@@OzSteve9801 they are definitely places in Canberra but Australia is a different style
@AliasAerius
2 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference with the doner kebabs in Australia are the bread and the sauces. We have ours wrapped in flatbread and we've got a wider range of sauces. Tzatziki, hummus, garlic sauce, chili sauce as well as tomato and bbq.
@sebastiangio1688
2 жыл бұрын
@@zt1788 well put
@ahmetgunay91
3 ай бұрын
It’s really hard to find a good döner shop in Turkey nowadays because of the economy, but I still remember the excitement I felt back in the days when I was a child, waiting for my father to bring döner coming back from work, that taste was something from heavens. Over time they started to add more and more stuff to it like fries, veggies, sauces etc. to compensate for the ever increasing meat prices and to mask the taste of low quality meat. But when you’re eating döner, the meat should taste sooo good that you don’t even want to ruin it with sauces, only lettuce and onions beside the meat and maybe some tomato but that’s it.
@bered4894
2 жыл бұрын
4:54 my family owns a Turkish bakery in Germany and the outside of the pide can be soft while fresh tho usually is crispy (many customers prefer the softer ones).. it‘s this soft because it‘s stale and wrapped in plastic but the stale ones are always better for toasting
@manofsan
2 жыл бұрын
*As soon as I saw the title for Ethan's video, I was wondering if his Döner would be as good as Andong's -- and then I laughed as soon as he introduced Andong himself.* 😄
@necrojoe
2 жыл бұрын
That "common everyday" ground meat version is my favorite, and IMO is the hardest experience to replicate at home which makes a donner kebab so craveable.
@rileywebb4178
2 жыл бұрын
Adam ragusea has a pretty interesting method to try, combined with really heavily browning 1/3-1/2 of the meat and then just browning the rest you can get the maillard flavor combined with tender meat. His is closer to generic American gyro which imitates NY or big city American style which is imitating European and immigrant fusion. Edit: Forgot to mention that he also pronounces gyro wrong so watch out :)
@DjSunexx
Жыл бұрын
One thing to note though: You can basically change almost every "Berlin" in this video with "Germany". Döner is just everywhere here!
@keima42
2 жыл бұрын
The Doner Kebab is very popular here in Vietnam. And we have Banh Mi, that enough to prove how good it is.
@BrokenCurtain
Жыл бұрын
That herb sauce is also great for tortilla wraps. I have a wrap recipe with soft goat cheese, mango slices, arugula, red beets and some lemon juice. I always add that sauce and some crushed, spicy nacho chips. It's super delicious. The recipe I use for making the herb sauce is almost identical, but I also add some orange juice.
@JohnNathanShopper
2 жыл бұрын
Andong! These two are the best collab together
@HomerNarr
8 ай бұрын
LOL, when i started the vid by accident, i heard "Döner" and "Berlin" and i thought: "man, he should do this with Andong". AND YOU DID! Thank you for your cooking inspiration.
@bladerunner6823
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ethan. Love your content- made this recipe (first time I actually made something from your videos step-by-step) and it came out fantastically. Cooked for my fiancé, my brother-in-law, my two siblings, and my nephews, but I made sure to double it to give us frozen leftovers for later in the week. The herb sauce is a home run.
@Minecraftrok999
2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, respect, I didn't believe anybody would actually go through the whole effort laid out in the video. For us in Germany Döner is amazing, but it's function is to have a quick and easy bite, your order usually only takes 2-3 minutes in the Kebab shop and it costs like $4-5, I couldn't imagine going through all this hard work.
@itiryaki
2 жыл бұрын
döner: exists ethan: dünür
@Axel-mm7qi
2 жыл бұрын
Dear Ethan, your videos on cooking basics backed up with scientific explanations literally helped me take my cooking to the next level. Thank you so much! I'm currently struggling with the balance of creating good cohesive flavours vs. interesting top notes that hit hard. I'm not sure what spices make good cohesive flavours and which one I can use at the end of cooking to spice things up (pun slightly intended). Any way your empirical and scientific approach could guide me in making those decisions? Thanks a ton!
@klepto5596
10 ай бұрын
Turkish or Lebanese are the best here in the UK, we have loads of these German doner kebabs opening up recently - they just don’t hit the spot.
@ziba89
2 жыл бұрын
the bread could be enriched with yogurt or milk to make it fluffy and airy and soft! just like how naan bread is yogurt based, it gives it that unique texture and rich flavor.
@xDNightmarex
2 жыл бұрын
Worked a couple of months as freelancer in Berlin and set myself the goal of testing lots of different iterations of Döner.. have to admit, was pleased to see Rüya on the visited places list. Even though I've probably tasted like 30-40 different places, I always came back to Rüya because it was just something different yet absolutely delicious.
@ICYx420
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Rüya is my fav aswell i will compare it with mustafas gemüse kebab. Its like the most common Döner in germany it also taste rly good but you need to wait so long cause its more a tourist attraction nowadays and that is not the way in my opinion a döner is. Its like fastfood like mcdonalds, you go there get it and eat it and not waiting hours like it is a restaurant haha
@Wriachleyluache
2 жыл бұрын
Love to see you honoring the Döner with a full video :) When it comes to pronounciation, the ö is not quite the "u" or "oo" sound you make, but rather like the "i" in "dirt" ;)
@gleggett3817
2 жыл бұрын
Every Brit watching this is suffering cognitive stress because we pronounce it "donner"
@dmytro9058
Жыл бұрын
sorry, me, as a turkish and germany tourist(note - not a citizen, but frequent tourist) - all this video is very interesting, though very not exact.And I am very curious how americans are not familiar with turkish street food/ With all due respect to Ethan - maaan, Turkey is incredible food place - for me top 2 in the World. Very glad you showed up the street food of Middle East. Love your deep investigation every time.
@kennypowers2341
Жыл бұрын
Mexican food is to america like turkish food to europe, all the food of the world is very good so there is high competition (except maybe british food)
@l_combo
Жыл бұрын
yay Andong rocks, glad you got to team up! I love Doners, ironically in Australia we have doner kebabs but less sophisticated but just as religious for late night post drink enjoyment. different sauces and meats but equally tasty in my option but not comparable, they are more in a wrap rather than bread.
@BanaGhoo
Жыл бұрын
@Ethan first time I came across your vid, I love it, you DO go to the core components and explain everything systematically and orderly, thats perfect.
@MikePouch
2 жыл бұрын
Made this this weekend and it phenomenal! Loved the shaved meat technique - will definitely use that in the future. Also, the build-your-own aspect is always a hit with the kids (2 and 5). That dough recipe, if tweaked a little, would make a killer Sicilian pizza... You did it again, Ethan!!
@lokumo13
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. As a Turk, I regularly ate döner growing up in Istanbul, and had a chance to try the European take on it during my travels and although they are quite different in many ways(as you stood on it), I like them both and get a craving for both now that I’ve been in the U.S for ten years or so. Just to point out though, the footage you are showing @03:01 right as you are saying “vertical” actually shows a horizontal kebap, called “Cağ Kebabı”. I highly recommend checking it out if you get a chance as the cuts for that are not as thin, and the way it is served is a lot different. It is still extremely delicious, though is not eaten as often as döner kebap would be. It’s heavier, and not as fast-food-y.
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