If you don't think this is THALL kzitem.info/news/bejne/xYqoymGQr3mjeqw
@2d2001
11 ай бұрын
to me, thall riffs don’t repeat as much. vildhjarta breakdowns feel so disorienting bc they write them in a stream of consciousness type of way instead of “here’s this one pattern im gonna repeat”. just overall weirder sounds, lower tunings, and less predictable structures (this is extremely niche and pointless so it’s not that important) so yeah that’s my two cents
@gomaaren
10 ай бұрын
yup, and often when the guitar work is simple they can throw in some crazy drum stuff. in djent, what usually follows the guitar is the bassdrum, but vildhjarta often divide this "following" responsibility across bass drum, toms and snare.
@Nullllus
8 ай бұрын
100% right
@LucatielLucynda
8 ай бұрын
Vildhjarta sounds like a conversation without words
@holocenenamesake5074
7 ай бұрын
Most interesting thing is Vildhjarta started off with repeating breakdowns in all their songs on the Omnislash album. All of the songs were rewritten and restructured with more random hooks and twists in every riff for the Mastaaden album.
@pathfinder_official1526
7 ай бұрын
agreed, currently writing a song this way
@broncoxy
Жыл бұрын
step 5 is definitely the thallification
@-Hari-03
8 ай бұрын
yuppers
@oblivion4150
8 ай бұрын
Step 8 is the most important for thallification... but Ig djent does that too
@Geisterpfeifenfisch
3 ай бұрын
Very true!
@Khaynizzle7
6 ай бұрын
That bass tone is absolutely fucking bananas
@EE-iv5ej
11 ай бұрын
Soooo from what I can hear, Thall is like, if djent ACTUALLY sounds like Meshuggah.
@homewardboundphotos
3 ай бұрын
legit, Meshuggah create the style but none of the bands that claim the style sound anything like meshuggah. most "djent" so called bands are just really really heavy prog. very few understand what makes meshuggah meshuggah is how its groovy while being weird and offbeat.
@rheymarvinsalestre4075
8 ай бұрын
You forgot the most crucial aspect of thall: Make the strings sound like suspension bridge cables Fractalize did it masterfully
@MoonDevoured
6 ай бұрын
Immersed and Instant fuuuuck me up
@SSPGwemlin
5 ай бұрын
Not the biggest thall fan, but I do still have a lot of respect for the genre. Particularly because as a fan of Sludge/Doom Metal, I can personally hear a bit of influence from those genres in there, and I think it’s cool that those older influences can shine through more modern music, even if that wasn’t the intention of the artists, well, except for a band like Black Tongue, they very bluntly have doom and sludge vibes thrown in.
@JohnR436
11 ай бұрын
Write that down WRITE THAT DOWN.
@f7744dread388
8 ай бұрын
Splendid 🔥🔥
@johnbrixpomoy5220
8 ай бұрын
Recently I just bought KRK rp5 and I accidently found this in KZitem, it was actually good mixing. keep it up man!
@PyrStudios
11 ай бұрын
Dude that mix is just *chefs kiss*
@MikeAngelo7604
11 ай бұрын
Very good 👍🏻 love it !!
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
Thk u 😊
@masamunetozzi
11 ай бұрын
The pitch shift 😂😂 I do love it tho
@GonnaGetYouBoi
11 ай бұрын
i used to be a thall boi, but now i'm just a djenty gent
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
oh
@GonnaGetYouBoi
11 ай бұрын
@@plushdollofsheep2414 =)
@sirdo946
8 ай бұрын
No no, you're moving the wrong way!
@frankthecat1660
8 ай бұрын
It's all just metal.
@Diverdjent
6 ай бұрын
Hey :D
@JeffreydeKogel
8 ай бұрын
Damn I love this sound. Thall always hits me just right.
@immersionHEHE
11 ай бұрын
What ampsim and cab are you using? Actually btw, what drum library and bass aswell? 😂 Sounds awesome
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
ampero2,Loki Bass 2,MixWave: Luke Holland🔥
@immersionHEHE
11 ай бұрын
@@plushdollofsheep2414 thx man!!! I'm using Loki 2, gonna have to check the other stuff out for sure!
@Existomalus
11 ай бұрын
No thall was detected
@user-yd4kx4lc7q
11 ай бұрын
Wow.. so good. :)
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
thk u!!!
@KK_suggestions
11 ай бұрын
参考になりました!
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
良かったです!
@ruslan_kvtvnv
5 ай бұрын
Sounds awesome. What is scale of this guitar and wat strings did you use?
@erreip_
8 ай бұрын
This. Rocked.
@KOR3Andrea
2 ай бұрын
This is the perfect tutorial finally not one that makes it clownish.
@blackholestudios9284
11 ай бұрын
Siiiiiick tone!!!!
@ellyisonyoutube4017
11 ай бұрын
Flawless
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@notgluebert
4 ай бұрын
never heard this term before and I still knew exactly what this was about to sound like lmao
@thenuttednutter2669
11 ай бұрын
Godbless the Meshuggah.
@blxcktongue
11 ай бұрын
What.
@northtimo666
11 ай бұрын
@@blxcktonguewhat?
@blxcktongue
11 ай бұрын
@@northtimo666 the video clearly says how to make, "thall" right, thall. Not djent. If you didn't know, thall is a word that was formed by the way the guitarist plays the riffs in the band, "Vildhjarta." Right, and this comment is praising the progressive metal band, "Meshuggah."
@arockfloatinginspace4488
11 ай бұрын
@@blxcktongue i dont a see a possibly where thall would exist before djent
@blxcktongue
11 ай бұрын
@@arockfloatinginspace4488 *progressive
@csilval18
11 ай бұрын
Strong Vola vibes
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
Really? Happy!
@TheAntarcticaProject
11 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Prof.Pwnalot
9 ай бұрын
Nice man, missing the twings and twangs though :P Much different to Vildhjarta imo. Nice title / descriptions of the technical sides for laymans like me who gauge on ears :P
@JaviAltonaga
8 ай бұрын
tassssty!!!
@Creatixion-lt6qo
8 ай бұрын
Maybe coincidental but the riff sounds quite similar to Freakjuice's Gangsta life ... recorded in 1999
@DarkminiStoned
5 ай бұрын
Rules number one of "thall". Get that brown notes 95% of the time and you're good. Anyway, that breakdown part is fucking amazing lol oh yea dont forget that china symbal.
@Genghis_Sean_
5 ай бұрын
Feels more like standard deathcore with a seasoning of thall
@carazy123_
4 ай бұрын
Yeah this isn’t thall but it sounds decent at least
@KINGJADEX
15 күн бұрын
I wanna be a thall boi when I grow up
@LegendaryVodnik
8 ай бұрын
Not mentioned: triplet feel, but you got it anyway
@Hacker-fn8vd
4 ай бұрын
Drop E is crazy ngl
@rossward7801
11 ай бұрын
heavy as fuck. nice work.
@MZFKLoose
6 ай бұрын
Напоминаю, что бас тоже должен быть на октаву ниже, а не в унисон!
@pinkavyek
Жыл бұрын
damn ok shawty
@mikloszapori-regenhart6134
4 ай бұрын
Nah thats just djent but its goood
@pedro6682
11 ай бұрын
Need more
@landhomer4627
11 ай бұрын
and Lofi guitars
@andallicansayis
7 ай бұрын
thall
@redfoxxx9997
11 ай бұрын
THALL!!!!! ASF!!!!
@CLFmoto87
10 ай бұрын
So make a Vildhjarta song.
@Nestorglass
2 ай бұрын
Cant wait for every modern core band to have their heavy single sound exactly like this until we're all sick of it
@Ryanxofficials
2 ай бұрын
How to mix like this sound
@MarkToast99
6 ай бұрын
You know those "If ___ was djent" videos? Thall is like taking a song that's already a djent song, treating it like it isn't djenty, and saying "what if we made it djenty?" It's double djent.
@Brewtalgaming
6 ай бұрын
step 1: have good tone
@jankington216
4 ай бұрын
TIL thall is when the guitar makes a "djent" sound
@vault3343
Жыл бұрын
kick ass
@hastyhillfarmand4x480
10 ай бұрын
How to meshuggah for beginners
@Pietreszcz
9 ай бұрын
Yoooo what drums did you use?
@plushdollofsheep2414
9 ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/lHhrlpyhkKt4rZw ↑🔥
@jameswhite7367
7 ай бұрын
すごい シャアル
@JayDuuubb
11 ай бұрын
"not djent" Step 4: Djent
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
Lol
@mrraimundo130
11 ай бұрын
Not quite but nevertheless great tutorial!
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
For beginners!
@samirgolchha
9 ай бұрын
Sorry, but it's not thall. Yeah, the only bend here sounded thall-ish but I'm just tired of people making these 'how to t h a l l' videos after hearing one and a half hlb or fractalize songs. Production and riifs are good tho.
@Crcmvnt
17 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@THALLDOJO
11 ай бұрын
THALL
@lolminer86
11 ай бұрын
heavyyyy god damn, tone is fat af very cool.
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
thk u 🔥
@ForLorNVuLgaR
11 ай бұрын
Is there really a difference between thall and djent?
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
In what sense are they distinguished?
@ForLorNVuLgaR
11 ай бұрын
@@plushdollofsheep2414 Im still working that one out
@slapyomomma8727
9 ай бұрын
Yes, one is thall and the other is djent.
@donaldmacgregor2628
9 ай бұрын
listen to vildhjarta then listen to invent animate and tell me
@ForLorNVuLgaR
8 ай бұрын
oh no trust me I know! I love me some thall like Miroist, I was just saying that the op vid showcasing thall vs djent couldve done a lil better separating the two. BTW I binge listen to without a whisper on repeat @@donaldmacgregor2628
@norwardradtke1361
6 ай бұрын
He uses the line 6 pod farm “big bottom” amp sim with his own IRs. Just watched a video with buster coffee with Ola where he said it verbatim. You’re welcome
@Ei-mx1we
4 ай бұрын
Still sounds like a Djent song to me, ngl.
@MoonDevoured
6 ай бұрын
fml this is so tasty
@maxalaintwo3578
11 ай бұрын
Shoulda slided
@borgabuddana
7 ай бұрын
what do you mean technically by "octave fret and bend"? nice fucking thall tho:)
@serrisdaylor1015
7 ай бұрын
Bending the heaviest string at the 12th fret up a semitone so that when you hit the open string again afterwards, it's like doing a 1-0 but with a greater distance between notes. Tablature-wise, it looks like 12^-0--
@proximityclockworkx1572
7 ай бұрын
Sounds like djent to me
@atomicpunk2360
10 ай бұрын
Do people just make up dumb sounding words to describe heavily down tuned riffs these days? 😂
@serrisdaylor1015
7 ай бұрын
Actually yes, as far as I know, Thall is named in the same way as djent was. Djent describes the palm mute, Thall is the open note. I feel like that's probably the main difference between the two as well? Djent will be tighter, focused on staccato and palm mutes while thall is more loose, a bit more about the ambience
@bobbygoestoabyss6624
5 ай бұрын
What is thall? pls explain somebody?!
@Jalterra
5 ай бұрын
make this a song
@MrOmen420
11 ай бұрын
Dropped F sounds more crisp than E, js
@metalux2901
5 ай бұрын
Humanity last Breath
@sindrerb
8 ай бұрын
Its djent, but tuned so low that you cant actually hear it.
@lucaguitarplayer
8 ай бұрын
what the hell is pitch shifting???
@blackgrizzly4987
10 ай бұрын
Most don't know what Djent actually is
@RWNPOP
6 ай бұрын
I don't think you made Thall, I think Thall made you.
@notaciaagent446
11 ай бұрын
So how is this not djent?
@plushdollofsheep2414
11 ай бұрын
I don't know lol
@frankthecat1660
8 ай бұрын
It's the same.
@xdwarheadfoxtrotx8990
6 ай бұрын
Ambiance is steps 1-5 ngl
@silvasen1985
11 ай бұрын
the pick scratch, how???
@calebgarcia9864
6 ай бұрын
now put it in 2x speed and you have djent :)
@sushio4357
6 ай бұрын
I am not into extreme metal or djent but I do listen to a lot of Vildhjarta, no HLB or FRACTALIZE. But if you really do wanna Thall like Vildhjarta does, this is nowhere near that 😅
@apothecide.2
Жыл бұрын
Thall
@carterbennettmusic8948
8 ай бұрын
can't be thall if 4/4 gotta throw in some 11/8 or some bs for the trickery or the lols
@DeusAmoeba
7 ай бұрын
Reverse bend is the thallest shit there is
@James.99
3 ай бұрын
Thall is just a bass track with no guitar
@edgeofsanity9111
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe we should stop making metal a downtune/heaviness competition and actually get back to making a piece of art
@Enshadowed
9 ай бұрын
look there is still tons of metal bands who aren't focusing on low tunings, I love traditional heavy metal and all the subgenres. the super low frequencies are awesome and it is still creating art. I'm glad this variety of modern metal exists!
@cattypat6
7 ай бұрын
Sure because thall totally doesn't have plenty of fans who just enjoy the sound... don't try to reduce this to "less than a piece of art" because this is still undeniably music.
@Enshadowed
7 ай бұрын
exactly@@cattypat6
@mixail201211
10 ай бұрын
sounds like same shit , man them swedish ppl be creating genres out of nothing
@weevilsnitz
8 ай бұрын
So what you're saying is Limp Bizkit is thall
@Myqq._
6 ай бұрын
Limp Bizkit doesn't use guitars in drop E and pitch shifters, nor any harmonics.
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