I know this video is 7 years old, but after watching this I realized I have two Ruger American Ranch rifles and a jar of JB Bore Paste. So while watching TV last night I did 600 action strokes. No more zipper sound and both are smooth as butter. Thanks for making the video.
@jackw7148
3 ай бұрын
To do 600 strokes is about the stupidest thing I ever heard.
@DouglasThompson
3 ай бұрын
@jackw7148 I do more than that in one nightly session...
@thomaspike1475
3 ай бұрын
@jackw7148 I had 2 rifles, 300 strokes each as recommended in the video is 600 strokes total while watching TV.
@DouglasThompson
3 ай бұрын
BTW the "strokes" was an easy school-ground joke I made. Lol but seriously, it sounds like more than it is.
@JamesClark-lw6sw
19 сағат бұрын
I simply lubricated the bolt on my zippy sounding 2014 vintage RA 308 and SHOT THE DAMN THING a few hundred times. VOILA!!! SMOOTH BOLT! I bet the bolt on mine is as smooth as yours snd I did not get abrasives in the trigger machanism or bolt lugs recess like you cretins did .😂
@johnowen7105
6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to need you to demonstrate the sound it makes again.
@davep1808
4 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite part of the video..
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Vvvvvvvvvttt vvvvvvtt
@Dale37
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@glennllewellyn7369
2 жыл бұрын
Heh heh heh...
@christopherpeterraby
2 жыл бұрын
@@DouglasThompson lol
@mikemagnum7987
6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have thought of using a bore cleaning compound for lapping an action in, but you certainly showed us how well it works for that purpose! Sweet video my friend! Thank you.
@DouglasThompson
6 жыл бұрын
Mike Magnum thank you for watching! It is a very consistent compound, very repeatable. :) glad you got some use out of the video!
@pamelaforth7820
3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Scout and was somewhat concerned about the difficulty of operating the bolt. (I'm a weak old lady of 68). I appreciate your idea and your video. I'm ordering the compound tomorrow.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes! :)
@ArchAngel77758
3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh. No update??
@jmt8706official
Жыл бұрын
@@ArchAngel77758 It probably worked so well, she is still at the range ringing steel. 👍
@louiscatoire3269
5 жыл бұрын
My new Ruger5 American Ranch was not as bad as this guy described but there was a vibration. I followed his instructions and after about 100 strokes, the vibration was gone. Great video!
@DouglasThompson
5 жыл бұрын
Cool man! I wish I would have got video of my action before I did the smoothing but Im haply it worked out for you too!
@KingKiavash
6 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would suggest is that if you're going to do this, make sure to NOT get any paste on bolt face and back of the lug so as not to affect the headspace at all. Everything else seems gravy.
@takinisurvivalchannel3812
4 жыл бұрын
^ this
@jizzmonkey9679
3 жыл бұрын
Hou won't take off enough material with bore cleaning compound to affect the headspace ,even the harsh lapping compounds would take a few thousand cycles to have a significant effect.
@marsiloficino5060
Жыл бұрын
Ultrasonic clean if that happens
@ottokittel709
3 ай бұрын
yes king is correct! 50 years of gunsmith experience, never mess with locking lugs, and bolt face!
@JamesClark-lw6sw
19 сағат бұрын
@@jizzmonkey9679WRONG..WHY DO YOU THINK THE BOLT GOT SMOOTHER? THE DUDE IS AN IDIOT.
@NinjaBros219
8 жыл бұрын
Not sure why but I laughed out loud when you just kinda dropped the rifle down in the beginning hahaha
@DouglasThompson
8 жыл бұрын
lol, I don't think I noticed that I did that...
@gregcaptain6015
3 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah threw it down like it's a piece junk 😂
@jimdickey6492
6 жыл бұрын
I used 400 grit sandpaper to smooth the main bolt body first, this probably eliminates 300 of the bolt strokes necessary to do this job, I finished by coating the bolt with a thin layer of Turtle wax Rubbing Compound and probably 50 strokes. I did the bolt lugs too. Being a former 07FFL/SOT for 6 years and having experience matching bolts to barrels with savages and remingtons, I agree with the other users comments that this will not mess up your headspace. We're talking about ten thousands of an inch, SAAMI dimensions are far bigger in terms of tolerance. The first generation of these rifles were built with a long headspace, which is the reason that people have the light strike issue. This "mod" is in my opinion a mandatory break-in procedure. Between whacking a full turn off the trigger spring and doing this job, this gun feels like a worked over Tikka or CZ. Lots of Sub-MOA loads tested, cast and jacketed, subsonic to 2100 FPS for the 125 grain handloads. If your on the fence about buying one of these, don't be. You'll spend about 2 hours doing the trigger, smoothing the bolt, and clearancing the barrel to stock for a reliable free float no matter the shooting situation. After that, you have a rifle that a major manufacturer would charge you $1100+ to buy off the shelf. It doesn't like to feed the last round from the 5 (actually 6) round magazine if the bullets have a large flat meplat nose, but a little jiggle and that last round drops right in. BUY ONE OF THESE AND A SMALL ASSORTMENT OF SANDPAPER, YOU WILL LOVE IT WITH A 2-7X SCOPE!!!!!
@karachikungfu7371
5 жыл бұрын
Jim Dickey Hi I just bought one of these. Could you explain the trigger and free float mods you speak of. Can’t wait to get it ready. Thanks
@pyrofful
5 жыл бұрын
NW Green- He is talking about taking a dremel (or generic tool) and using it to grind away parts of the stock that touch the barrel preventing a true free float. The rifle is well known to be flexible and hit the barrel. Look up KZitem videos. Usually people use some type of hardener from epoxy to bondo to high $$ stuff to stiffen the forend. If you want (I did) add weight before you apply resin....and only apply resin to the top of the support bracing (new version has a supportive X pattern) then once it dries reassemble and use a dollar bill or price of proper to slide between the barrel and stock. If you get any hangups take the stock back up and grind that area down a bit. LOTS of good info and videos online look it up for more detail. The magazine is a piece of cap on the ruger American and might need to be filed down to properly feed. Real simple again look at KZitem. Best of luck a few hours of time and you have a quality rifle
@chrisruiz3269
4 жыл бұрын
Subscibe to me please
@tlbfarm4473
3 жыл бұрын
Did this same operation for both of my Ruger Americans. Much Mo Bettah!!!
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I was able to inspire you! :) Thank you for sharing your experience with my method.
@ChristopherLorine
3 жыл бұрын
I just did something similar to this yesterday using, 400, 600, 1500 grit sand paper then moving on to polishing compound (Flitz) and ultimately a buffing wheel on my dremel. The result was a highly polished and slick bolt with a mirror finish. There is no sound and the smooth movement is like a fine jeweled watch.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Makes you feel more proud to own something when you have put work into it!
@SuAmigoElilegal
2 жыл бұрын
Why would u sand it. Don't be stupid just leave it as it is and put some oil or some bit of grease
@denverwynn4
Жыл бұрын
@@SuAmigoElilegal if you owned one of these rifles you would know that no amount of oil or grease makes the zipper sound go away
@bisakov
Жыл бұрын
LOL! Nailed it with the sound of the bolt on 0:54
@CesareRazzi
4 ай бұрын
We call it ZIP noise , it would have faded away by itself , but I can understand it can be annoying for some Great tip 👍
@DouglasThompson
4 ай бұрын
:) thank you!
@steelyemry9612
3 жыл бұрын
awesome video! soon as I heard your demonstration of the sound I couldn't help but laugh hysterically! for that I liked and subscribed. my sounds just like that and thanks to you, i can smooth it up!
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Ya this worked wonders, many on here recommend you not get any compound on the lugs but other than that, you're GTG! ;)
@mikewheeler1939
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah same here
@glizzybobbler9483
2 жыл бұрын
It sound like a zipper
@RemanentSphere
Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasThompson any change on this or any word 6 years later? How're the components? Need to replace anything?
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
No need to change anything. I don't use the rifle much.
@TheValiant2289
5 жыл бұрын
A machinist that used to do precision shooting said that polishing the bolt and leaving the slight machining marks in the receiver makes them buttery smooth while giving less contact points for friction. That's another reason why people flute bolts for that and to help it function if dirt or sand gets into the action. I was also told to use a graphite based lube for bolt guns but never use grease. It holds dirt debris more than an oil based lube and harder to clean off.
@DouglasThompson
5 жыл бұрын
True and I knew that to begin with but I couldnt stand that zipper noise...lol
@crackerjack9120
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug, the comments is the reason I do not put videos on the tube. Too many people are ready to argue instead of just watching for ideas. We or they do not have to use ideas. Thanks for the idea and video.
@DouglasThompson
6 жыл бұрын
Danny Mc thats a nice thing you said, man! Thank you for watching! :)
@diesel_delph9764
6 жыл бұрын
You can disable the comments
@vincef5832
5 жыл бұрын
WOW Isn't it great we have someone show how to get our bolt smooth? LMAO. Get outta here.
@mrhellotherehowareu1384
5 жыл бұрын
No you don’t put any videos on KZitem because they suck. No need to make up a false story about how you don’t want people to argue.
@AvocaSingleTrack
4 жыл бұрын
And every one of them NEVER has any content. They will criticize if you clear your throat twice in a video ...lol and none of them has ever made a video.
@michaelrandell4021
Жыл бұрын
As a machinist, we call that lapping. Diamond Rouge in a grit compound we use to put a mirror micro finish on parts in a lathe. On outside or inside diameters. The process breaks the peaks of the surface finish down to a smoother finish. If you had lines you could see that finish was probly a 125 finish because you could rub you finger nail on it and feel the lines. With that compound you wore the lines down to or under a 32 or 16 microfinish or better. You can use a drill press and jewel the bolt with a wooded Dowell. MiwayUSA gunsmithing video shows Larry Potterfield do this video is free to watch. Hoped this helped and explained this process.
@wyateerp1
10 ай бұрын
But White Litheum is not good on a Firearm
@michaelfleming9618
6 жыл бұрын
I achieved this by sanding the bolt with 1500 2000 and 2500 grit sand paper and polished with mothers mag polish and I was a lot smoother. Great video btw. Any little info to make ur gun smoother in any way is appreciated!
@Phamyunx
2 жыл бұрын
I also use sand paper to smooth my Remington 700 bolts
@eaznutts5714
5 жыл бұрын
I have the "commie" ranch rifle, it suffered from Corduroy Bolt Syndrome too. All I did to get rid of its CBS was keep it greased and and go full send on a case of Red Army Standard. It's smooth as cool whip and shoots .75" groups with handloads, absolutely love it.
@2legit89
3 жыл бұрын
What kind of grease did you use? I’m new to reloading what’s your recipe If you don’t mind
@eaznutts5714
3 жыл бұрын
@@2legit89 jagman brass or win brass, cci large primer, H4198, 125 Sierra pro hunter. You'll have to find a charge for for specific chamber, I maxed out at 23gr for 2380 fps I used lucas gun grease on the bolt
@2legit89
3 жыл бұрын
@@eaznutts5714 appreciate it
@SavageHmr
6 жыл бұрын
I used valve compound on my savage action now it’s smooth.
@LarryeWhite61
6 жыл бұрын
I've used 3M 2000 grit wet/dry polishing paper. Mirror finish now and silky smooth and quite
@suz400uki
4 жыл бұрын
How did that work out a year later? Is it something that needs done every year or more? Thanks for the idea!
@niclavalliedrums8537
4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say wouldn’t it be faster to use high grit sand paper?
@LarryeWhite61
4 жыл бұрын
@@suz400uki Still working great. Now i'm polishing with Simichrome metal polish and wool wheel on a dremel tool.
@LarryeWhite61
4 жыл бұрын
@@niclavalliedrums8537 that would be but, Your goal is to reduce friction. I'm also using Simichrome metal polish
@PileofBrass
4 жыл бұрын
The micro grooves actually give oil a place to pool on the metal surfaces. An absolute smooth metal surface will shed oil as it abrades against another smooth surface. So there is a small benefit to the micro grooves in that they carry a micro thin coat of oil on the affected surfaces.
@DouglasThompson
4 жыл бұрын
True but my smoothing technique doesnt fully remove the lines, just reduces the peaks. :)
@greatcornholio5541
3 жыл бұрын
@@DouglasThompson plus the white lithium grease doesn’t need those micro groves to work…you’re all set mate
@wyateerp1
10 ай бұрын
Ok Scientist, Its not engine. Its a Bolt. DA
@PileofBrass
10 ай бұрын
@@wyateerp1 It's your story, mensa man.
@gordoncouger9648
5 жыл бұрын
Before you start sanding or polishing smoke the bolt with soot from a candle and run it throuh the action and see what is actually rubbing. You can also use Dykum or a Sharpie like they do here kzitem.info/news/bejne/1puHt5ikhnV1f6w, If you can find the spot that caueing the prolem aquick swipe with a India stone fixes it. You don't want to polish gun parts glass smooth or they won't hold lubrication very well. If you look at surface cut by a single point lathe tool it looked as if the steel was torn from the part. Depending on the steel, tool, speed, depth of cut and coolant used those tears will be 0.00075 to 0.0015 inches from valley to peak. I studied that rather well on 25 helicopter rotor blade mounts I had to bore a 2 and half inch hole with a +2 -0 ten thousandths of an inch tolerance and get a ground finish in lathe by using brake hones. The hone would cut a thousandth fast and then take then next 0.0005 really slow and I had better end up in tolerance because a hone won;t cut steel it just grind of high spots. If you can feel tool marks with your fingernail they are at least 0.0005 deep. I used to be able to hear them at about 0.0003 inches deep if it was quite enough. I can still feel them but can't hear them at all.
@tonybrannen1740
Жыл бұрын
Very good advice
@johninphx9360
4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one...thanks for the heads up. .....Update. I finally got my Ruger American ranch. They must have made changes. My bolt is silky smooth right out of the box.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, maybe my video made them see the error of their ways! Lol
@nandayane
Жыл бұрын
It’s hit and miss QC, is abominable. Action is the worst I have seen.
@lakesidebc
5 жыл бұрын
Dude behind the counter at my LGS called the corduroy pants noise, "the Ruger signature sound". Great video, thanks for sharing the tips!
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Lol...Sorry for the 2 years late response! Mine now sounds like a pair of yoga pants. ;)
@fastpat1
7 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend using spray brake cleaner to degrease before polishing, and to remove the compound after the complete job. Then add lube of your choice.
@takinisurvivalchannel3812
4 жыл бұрын
With...the stock removed. Brake cleaner, depending, can melt plastic.
@takinisurvivalchannel3812
4 жыл бұрын
Cool flag.
@fastpat1
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. Do not use abrasives with the action still in the stock.
@zachaliles
7 жыл бұрын
I think the term you're looking for is lapping. You're basically lapping the bolt to the receiver.
@DouglasThompson
7 жыл бұрын
zachariah liles Yes, basically.
@eirizarry2568
7 жыл бұрын
lapping is a similar process...but it applies to the bolt "lugs" rather than the bolt body. Lapping the lug or lugs helps ensure the pressure on each of the lugs is even (uniform) when locked.
@gunfreak9mm
3 жыл бұрын
Update, I did this to both my 30-06 and 243 with a $6 tub of Mothers car compound. They are now butter smooth and quiet. Thanks again for the awesome video.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad you were able to get it smooth as butter! 1 more success story with this method. ;)
@Jcasta8
13 күн бұрын
How long did it take?
@johnsmith-by3yg
2 жыл бұрын
YES= my Mauser M18 sounds like two people from the 1970 just walking down the street swish swish swish swish, i got to try this thank you.
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
Lol let me know how it goes.
@electropentatonic
2 жыл бұрын
Hogs are like "did you just hear someone unzip their pants?"
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@randalla7106
8 жыл бұрын
Good video Doug, The Ruger American's bolt sounds like finger nails scratching ballistic nylon. I have been using JB bore polish combined with Kroil to lap barrels and restore so called "shot out" barrels for decades. It would take a whole lot more than 300 or 400 hundred strokes to erode enough of the lug surface to affect the head spacing, but as you mentioned, if it concerns you don't do it. Pretty simple. In today's world of the mass production of firearms much of the hands on procedure's such as hand lapping barrels and bolt lugs and has been omitted. I just acquired an American Predator in 22-250, the first steps in my break in process for any firearm, new or used is to clean the bore completely with sweets 762, followed by running a appropriate sized swab with JB and kroil for around a hundred strokes. Flush the bore with hoppes and then off to the range, quick clean the barrel after each shot for the first 20 rounds the after three rounds for the next 20. The JB bore polish has been around for decades and is still a preferred choice of veteran shooters for polishing and occasional deep cleanings.
@mmakright
Жыл бұрын
Great idea!! I’ll be doing this for sure… gotta have smooth bolt operation!! Great, informative video!
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
:)
@Chuck_Carolina
3 жыл бұрын
Douglas, by marring the parts as you did is actually a good thing, and I do this with all fire arms before I take and put them into service - I will clean and function fire them first just in case there is an issue and one needs to go back to the manufacture. Polishing, even to the extreme, will only remove about .0001 (one ten thousands of an inch) - and you would be hell bent to get that off of it. Even on parts I can put a micrometer to, it is usually more like .00002 to .00004 which in reality is unreadable. I have a 70 year old rifle here that would probably have benefited by the same treatment you did to your rifle, but still the wear is unmeasurable. It is just not as sightly as could be.
@michaelbowman7558
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with comments about keeping the abrasive off of the bolt lugs. However, using it on the bolt sleeve should certainly be no worse than machining in the "jewel" patterns onto the bolt. Here's an idea to remove residue of the abrasive. Try Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber spray to clean it
@ronaldnishimura8357
6 жыл бұрын
Good tips. Have an American in 308 and shall try this soon.
@calebdoner
4 жыл бұрын
I took sandpaper to my bolt and smoothed it out before I even took it out to shoot it for the first time. Just some fine grain sandpaper perpendicular to the ridges and rubbed those peaks off. Not sure I would really want to run the JB in the action and wear the reciever too. I just wanted to knock the ridges off the bolt.
@DouglasThompson
4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, my goal was to mate it to the receiver as well as knock the edges off so they would know eachother better. :)
@machiningcoolstuff9124
Жыл бұрын
So you hand lapped and polished it. Nice work!
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
:)
@mrhellotherehowareu1384
5 жыл бұрын
I do this same method with a piston but I put it on a patch. Makes cleaning it easier.
@randyrainbow6692
4 жыл бұрын
I picked up my Ruger Ranch yesterday and when I put the bolt in during assembly my son looked up and said" That ain't good!" Glad I found this video because I have never had a new rifle sound like that. Easy fix. Thanks
@Freezermeat
3 жыл бұрын
This video is funnier than it was meant to be haha
@lsmitty1992
Ай бұрын
Based on the editing this guy is naturally hilarious.
@coyotiess
Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
Thank you much!
@bluesfanman1
4 ай бұрын
JB is for removing copper fouling in your bore. It definitely works. Never considered it for this purpose but I’ll try it. 👍🏻
@DouglasThompson
4 ай бұрын
It seem to do the trick and smoothed the action quite a bit for me.
@pipemasteruaw
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thanks. Screw the trolls my friend.
@longranger5226
7 жыл бұрын
That sound you made with your mouth sounded way cooler than the sound my RARanch makes. 😂 Great vid. Thanks.
@DouglasThompson
7 жыл бұрын
RayRay's World Awesome! lol Im glad you liked it! ;)
@chrisruiz3269
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tactesticality3673
4 жыл бұрын
He had me thinking of old skewl star trek doors opening and closing lol
@johngrijalva1425
4 жыл бұрын
Steel wool and mothers polish works pretty good also
@upinya5223
5 ай бұрын
Why should anyone have to do this with a brand new rifle ? Save your money and buy a good rifle.
@DouglasThompson
5 ай бұрын
Fair nuff.
@Rickugg
Жыл бұрын
Hello:: I think the sound effects are amazing !!! I am planing on using Simichrome Polish. Good enough for my Harley !!! Those groves may retain or hold Lubricant. I do not guess the white lube is going anywhere. I put motor oil on some guns and put them away for over 10 years, no Rust !!!
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
Motor oil is great as general purpose lubrication! Thank you for watching the vid and I'm glad you enjoyed the words and noises that came out my mouth! :) lol
@luminox1
4 жыл бұрын
dang i might just try this, i found the surface finish a bit rough on my bolt almost like chatter marks, had to debur it also.
@lukaszimmermann2215
2 жыл бұрын
After i polished the bolt the Transformer noises stopt.
@be2223
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. This definitely worked for me.
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
It takes a bit of effort but its a lot less time than it would take naturally. Glad you got some use out of this info!!!
@richardkut3976
8 ай бұрын
Nice fix.
@Andrew-McCormick
11 ай бұрын
personally wouldn't put any on the bolt lugs, since i don't want to concern myself with a possible shift in headspace. but overall nice technique!
@DouglasThompson
11 ай бұрын
It worked out great. Noticeable improvement. My whole idea was to just accelerate the smoothing in a more natural way so it wouldn't cause any tolerance inconsistencies.
@mascasa7502
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video. Great idea!
@DouglasThompson
9 ай бұрын
Thank you much!!!
@yahusrevus
6 ай бұрын
Now that my bolt is quiet... any advice on how to quiet down my actual corduroy pants? 😆
@DouglasThompson
6 ай бұрын
Grease.
@christinaschaefer5253
2 жыл бұрын
The lines are probably just fast machining. Hurry up and make as many parts as you can so you can get to the next project. Max profits and who cares about quality. That being said the reviews on this gun is awesome
@DimaProk
7 жыл бұрын
Once I got my 2nd rifle, I've noticed this problem exactly like you described, I didn't really notice on my first rifle. Those fine parallel lines running perpendicular and if you run your nail across you can It basically acts like a violin string, creating "music" in your rifle LOL.
@bulldog45k
Жыл бұрын
People making comments on the lugs obviously never seen what lapping your lugs is about!
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
Nice Thank you! Glad someone isn't making that comment about this vid. Lol
@NoodlesIsstrong-ii2df
5 жыл бұрын
I do this with flitz. Back in the day when all firearms needed a "break in period". I ran flitz on the rails of my pistols and I swear it worked out all micro burs and gun ran better. Maybe not, but this is definitely old man gun science.
@luxordeathbed
4 жыл бұрын
Used flitz on a ruger 77 357 to make the rounds feed better on the ramp. About 2 hours of watching videos while using a q tip and now no problems. Makes sense it would work this way too.
@pmdoit
2 жыл бұрын
Flitz is great stuff.
@juriscivilis8248
2 жыл бұрын
Kindly mention the flitz product’s complete name so I can buy that.
@CircleBrewery
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah hate that sound on the ruger bolt ... u got it smooth now
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Butter smoothie
@keatoncyre9926
6 жыл бұрын
Don't get any on your lugs. And pro tip for anyone here, remove the firing pin. Eliminates the resistance cocking the mainspring over and over.
@rickpickle
2 жыл бұрын
inspiring, i just got a rotary tool for some other things and i think i'll try smoothening up my other things ;-)
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to inspire! Make your bolt a smooth criminal!!! ;)
@rclem87
3 жыл бұрын
Sounded like the robot fight in Eurotrip.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@roncrotzer1025
7 жыл бұрын
The lines are from a lathe turning process for the bolt, and the reaming process for the receiver. They sound like crap because it is like rubbing two washboards together. There is no reason for the lines except to make the gun less expensive...
@DouglasThompson
7 жыл бұрын
Ron Crotzer yes indeed. Glad its cheaper though, magazines bother me so much...
@TShawn64
7 жыл бұрын
i can live with a little noise so long as its accurate and is cheaper.
@ericc.7000
Жыл бұрын
l use jeweler's rouge for the same thing. Superfine grit, and is red so it's easy to see where its applied, and where it needs to be cleaned.
@JASmith-oy8db
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Awesome tip. Ordering some of that compound for my American now, since I hate the corduroy pant effect!
@kupel00
6 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter, how many critics you got, but you got really great result, the way you done it! Thank you for great ideas!
@NoGoBu
Жыл бұрын
Thanks sport I'll do it 👍
@jamesgriffin7626
2 жыл бұрын
Did this for my Savage .17HMR. Action was sticky and needed a firm hand to cycle. Tried this method with a couple hundred actions and can already feel a big difference. Thanks for the recommendation.
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!!!
@eirizarry2568
7 жыл бұрын
Purchased a Ruger American Today and watched your video. Yes my bolt was not as smooth as I expected it to be so I did just what you showed here on your video. I ran the action through several hundred cycles. I cleaned it again and sure enough...there was a significant improvement. Thanks. Now my action is moving as expected. . Great Idea, I am glad that I watched this.
@eirizarry2568
7 жыл бұрын
Another thing that I noticed when working the action was a small "Pin" protruding from the tip of the bolt knob that was sharp. After about a hundred cycles...It was irritating my palm. Closer inspection revealed the Pin. A little bit of filing with a finger nail emory board smoothed it off without scratching the bolt knob.
@DouglasThompson
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing! Im glad I could help!
@brianfriberg4917
4 жыл бұрын
THIS IS MY SOLUTION! THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE!
@JASmith-oy8db
4 жыл бұрын
Sir yes Sir!
@ChrisDavis-jl5qc
7 жыл бұрын
Followed your advice, made a pretty noticeable difference. Great tip
@DouglasThompson
7 жыл бұрын
Chris Davis Thank you for letting me know! :) glad you are happy with the results!
@jasonpadgett2288
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I just got my Ruger American 30-06. Doing a new Boyds stock to make it more accurate and was thinking "now how can I make the bolt quite without deer and elk hearing the slide"? Question answered! Thanks!
@alpalmieri8644
6 жыл бұрын
You wont hurt the lugs if you put jb on the lugs.Jb will just polish all the bearing surfaces.
@AlexSwan
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Turned your Ruger into a Tikka… sort of. I think you are giving Ruger too much credit tho, pretty sure that is the result of a rough finish and larger tolerances in the manufacturing process. Will give this a whirl. Cheers
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Have nothing but good experiences myself and have heard of many other happy people after having done it.
@royroberson4313
2 жыл бұрын
I used a buffing wheel and buffing compound took about ten minutes
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
Thatll do
@UhhhWinski1
7 жыл бұрын
those lines are just from machining. ruger doesn't have the time to polish them out on a mass produced cheap rifle. if they did the rifle price would go up too much. and to those saying this is a bad idea and detrimental to the rifle, well, i hope you're good at sports.
@glennllewellyn7369
2 жыл бұрын
LOL, you and I need beers! Beef farmer, Australia
@jacquelynberry2789
3 жыл бұрын
Cool video man, im sanding down a rusted Mossberg patriot and one thing I've learned is any coating the company puts on the rifle is probably just to hide crazy tooling marks haha
@NelsonZAPTM
6 ай бұрын
Lapping the trigger sear (don't over do it), saves you from over spending on a Timny.
@Elgallonegro666
4 жыл бұрын
Same here . Might get an aftermarket bolt
@buckstarchaser2376
3 жыл бұрын
That corduroy sound comes from the lathe and milling machine operations that cut the chunk of metal down into parts. A respectable manufacturer will perform finishing passes as they come up to the final dimensions. Recalculating your cuts so that it ships more or less functional with rough cuts means that it can't be made to function correctly by further material removal steps. This is the ultimate kick in the nuts, because they seem like we just need to do the final finishing ourselves, but the material that needs to be removed to make that happen represents its service life.
@jizzmonkey9679
3 жыл бұрын
On cheap rifle like this you can't expect finishing passes to be carried out,you won't get a tikka or AI feel bolt on a £400 rifle,.
@buckstarchaser2376
3 жыл бұрын
@@jizzmonkey9679 While I agree with that observation, I want to point out that $400 (or pounds, if your keyboard does that) "back in the day" would get you a safe full of well-made, hand-fitted guns, and the cheapening of the guns is strongly related to the cheapening of the currency(ies), even when guns are used as a currency.
@jizzmonkey9679
3 жыл бұрын
@@buckstarchaser2376 but it isn't "back in the day"
@jordanhicks5131
2 жыл бұрын
@@buckstarchaser2376 and "back in the day" that $400 represents a LOT more money due to inflation.
@Hamish_Whitehaven
2 жыл бұрын
this guns are 800 to 900€ in Europe..
@mountainsstreams2133
6 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks man 👍🏻
@AndrewJohnson-gx5cl
Жыл бұрын
I did this myself, bore lapping compound works amazing. So much smoother and quiter...
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
Nice!!! ;)
@danieldunham9978
3 жыл бұрын
Where i disagree is putting the compound on locking lugs you could affect the headspace if you dont know what you are doing. I just use the white grease on my bolt and the noise goes away.
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Thats fair.
@CreachterZ
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! How many times did you add more of the compound over the 300 to 400 cycles?
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Id say maybe 10
@bws7037
7 жыл бұрын
This actually worked surprisingly well. I'm well into about 450 cycles and I reckon I'm about 2/3 to 3/4's away from being done. That being said, I can't stress anymore what Hogman mike said: Keep it off of the lugs! That's just asking for trouble and failures.
@twistedmunchkin7598
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug Im from New Zealand and own a Ruger American myself. To create a smoother bolt function I had my bolt fluted. Adds some nice design to the bolt as well as save a few grams (not that it matters) Hope you can consider this an option
@DouglasThompson
6 жыл бұрын
Twisted Munchkin thats a pretty cool solution! Im sure it wasnt cheap. I dont think I will spend any more money on the rifle but it is a great suggestion for others, I think! :) Thank you for sharing!
@twistedmunchkin7598
6 жыл бұрын
Douglas Thompson Hi doug, it is a relatively cheap option as any machine/engineering workshop should be able to do it with a drilling and milling machine.
@samuelneil2691
2 жыл бұрын
@@twistedmunchkin7598 that would not really be an option in America. Most engineering workshops would not touch critical firearm components. You'd need to go to a gunsmith and if they were to flute your bolt it would cost near half price of the rifle. That is money you would not get back if you were to resell in the future. I'd think most folks would put that money into a better scope and just lap the bolt like the video.
@jamesschneider3828
2 жыл бұрын
Use Mothers brand Aluminum wheel polish, same principle but way cheaper price wise.
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@freedomiseverything2767
Жыл бұрын
Grease on an M14 or an M1A is great specially for the rail. The problem with with Grace is that it picks up dirt Greece potentially could build up in the barrel causing a potential pressure spike possibly causing catastrophic failure. Truthfully if properly done there is no problem with grease it especially works well with long-term storage I use Marine grease on my rights for long term storage to stop rust all together I literally feel the boring and cover every bit of the rifle inhibit rust all together. But by doing this covering my grease gun and grease if I did not know what I was doing and did not clean it all off before using it would cause a catastrophic failure
@eee2115
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how any manufacturer can stamp their name on something this terrible. I have seen the same rifle in a bunch of videos where the bolt wouldn't cycle unless you hit it like you were angry with it. Piss poor manufacturing...No pride in their work. Guess Made in the USA doesn't mean much anymore. Nice work on that bolt. It is how it should have come from the factory. I usually forego Ruger, Remington and just get the Tikka. Butter smooth cycling designed and built into the rifle.
@DouglasThompson
2 жыл бұрын
I know its a cheap rifle and I treat it as such but, ya...it should have been finished.
@shawndean8358
5 жыл бұрын
The quality isn't there as would be in a model 77 or a rem 700 ect thay do away with alot of polishing and such to get the price range down, and I can't believe that manufactures have sunk so low and have priced the more polished versions so high, but then again it's getting to be the American way , we are pricing our way out of business.
@rickmoss7040
4 жыл бұрын
OR they could send their machinists to school or teach them all they have to do to fix that problem is figure out the proper speeds and feeds on their lathes, or stop using shit and worn out tooling....you learn this like the first week as a CNC machinist....😯 I have been a machinist since 2004 and it completely blows me away when I see companies letting this lack of quality go out the door.
@marktechsci
13 күн бұрын
I mixed beach sand into the lithium grease. Only took about 10 strokes 😂
@DouglasThompson
13 күн бұрын
@@marktechsci lol
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
Жыл бұрын
The lines in the action are there because it's a budget rifle. Something those that are horrified by the removal of bluing can do is before re-oiling put some cold blue on a q-tip and swab it across the bare metal.
@fightingbear8537
5 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍
@diverphil71
4 жыл бұрын
Works great! Thanks. I had to subscribe too.
@DouglasThompson
4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@juriscivilis8248
9 ай бұрын
Any substitute to that JB compound ? That particular bore cleaner paste is not available in my state. Thanks
@DouglasThompson
9 ай бұрын
I've heard of people using lapping compound but it might be more abrasive.
@teambennett3060
6 жыл бұрын
Possibley about the same or less material being taken off as jeweling the bolt.
@sbranham86
4 жыл бұрын
0000 "quad" wool pad polishes metal amazingly
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
10 ай бұрын
That "zippy" sound is nothing more than the manufacturing process of producing a BUDGET priced rifle. There's nothing wrong with it yet consumers want to complain after they've pinched pennies. This is a GOOD hack for bringing the function up to a higher priced firearm (the employees have got to be paid for THEIR labor thereby slowing down production and increasing cost). Ignorance makes so many open their mouths and remove all doubt of their knowledge.😅
@DouglasThompson
10 ай бұрын
Thank you...I think. Lol
@killertruth186
22 күн бұрын
And polymer stocks is much worse on budget rifles than wooden stocks.
@cordelmar
5 жыл бұрын
Man that's not butter it is Cream Butter, great job i will probably do the same wen i buy one. Question: You think wen you cycle the bolt instead of looking it down just push in and out and you would get the same results? Thank you.
@DouglasThompson
5 жыл бұрын
Im sure it would. I dont think I was even thinking about that when I performed this. Thank you for the compliment! :)
@fppro1679
Жыл бұрын
About every 10th round fails to chamber and jams up. The natural tendency is to pull the bolt back which engages another round and now you have two rounds trying to get into the chamber. Is this something I'm going to have to live with? I hear all kinds of guys talk about different magazines and went out and bought some fancy ones but it still happening. Will this bolt polishing help?
@DouglasThompson
Жыл бұрын
I don't think this will help, no.
@DoIoannToKnow
3 жыл бұрын
just picked one up the other day... funny enough the gun shop owner was getting ticked off at how much I was cycling the action when I asked him if they usually come sounding like that
@DouglasThompson
3 жыл бұрын
Lol thats kind of funny. I bet he's heard that so many times.
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