Coltrane and Brecker never played outside. They just explored the inside believing the walls were further away than most knew.
@Ailanto
Ай бұрын
Playing outside just means what it means. It is not a matter of considering it to be nice, wrong, good or bad
@freetidjane
Ай бұрын
Incredibly well said !
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
So true so true. What a great way to see it. And when you practice the boundaries it all just becomes your sound. Amazing
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
True true true
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Heard
@IraanOzono
Ай бұрын
The fact is (I believe) that all of this "outside" thinking and playing now, contemporarily, just sounds +jazzy+ and +cool+, and no longer contains the feeling of an expanded vocabulary, or sonic use of the instrument
@harrisonmccomb1511
Ай бұрын
I agree and think it has to do with the “packaging”. Even the way a video like this is presented (and presented well I will say!) As an educator it’s a hard challenge to talk about this kind of playing without giving students 100s of years of tonal/harmonic context. It usually ends up being more lick or device based (which IS part of the tradition) but in my experience students don’t really “hear” the harmony. Maybe after plugging it in enough time they will, but I try and approach it from an expanded harmonic context and more exploration of the colors/timbres of the instrument (there’s a reason saxophonists play fast things with altered/OT fingerings haha, it sounds cool!) and lots of ear training around tension and release.
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Love that you are challenging the concept. I am trying to find my way in this too. Reharmonizing changes, playing super imposed changes like Coltrane changes or others over the coming chords. The discussion is amazing. All lines can be interpreted in many different ways and the more you look the more ways you find. I think the essence is to find out how you want to sound and how you want to express yourself. There is no right or wrong in the game of music, but you need to mean it
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I just answered in another post, but I love the discussion. What to call what and how to approach this. The harmonic structures or just sounds leading towards each other
@dawitberhanu2820
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@sorenballegaardmusic
10 күн бұрын
You're most welcome 😁😁
@benirw1n
Ай бұрын
This was great - real, usable ideas demonstrated and explained well. Makes me actually want to practice, haha.
@IraanOzono
Ай бұрын
The fact is (I believe) that all of this "outside" thinking and playing now, contemporarily, just sounds +jazzy+ and +cool+, and no longer contains the feeling of an expanded vocabulary, or sonic use of the instrument
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
I really dig that it is motivating. Thank you
@danielschmidt8700
Ай бұрын
Great Video , makes me wanna practice and checking out the ideas ! Thanks 😎
@hugovandermeer1566
Ай бұрын
Definitely all seriously motivational ideas.👍
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
This is so good, I'm very happy about it. :)
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I'll try to keep posting
@solomann940
Ай бұрын
Thanks for that 🙏🏼
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@SaxPracticemanJazz
Ай бұрын
Gooood contents!!!!
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this.
@hugovandermeer1566
Ай бұрын
Man, this is some seriously effective shxx...thank you!🎶🎶🎷
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
So happy you like it. Please ask questions if you have any
@jayramsey690
Ай бұрын
You’re a total badass!
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I really hope you can use the material. Questions are welcome
@geoffep8784
Ай бұрын
Such a helpful ideo. Many thanks! Each of those techniques is worthy of a separate video in the future?!
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your positive comment. What a great idea. I will def do that
@jppgitaar
Ай бұрын
Great video! I will have fun with this for many weeks 👍
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
I am so happy that this totally works for you. Let me know if you encounter any questions along the way
@lj3musicjulien855
Ай бұрын
Joe Henderson started the side stepping. Brecker was studying John Coltrane & Joe Henderson's approach to find his great voice and style.
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Yes of course. Thanks man. Joe is amazing and really one of my heroes I need to check out more.
@harrisonmccomb1511
Ай бұрын
What’s your source for Joe starting sidestepping exactly? I’m very interested in jazz history and harmony and I love Joe’s playing, but Tristano was playing sidestepping chromatic harmony at least a decade before Joe (recorded history at least). I wouldn’t say that Tristano was the first to do it either though, but it was implemented into his style fairly consistently by the early 1950s
@knishsax
Ай бұрын
Thanks
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
You are amazing, thank you so much, this really helps me give more to all of you.
@TheKeith1121
Ай бұрын
why is everything a whole step down from the chord chart shown in the video ?
@jumpyluweegee339
Ай бұрын
he's playing in Bb bc tenor is a Bb instrument
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
What he said :)
@grantgre
Ай бұрын
It's good but it's making my head spin I play Guitar Man
@sorenballegaardmusic
Ай бұрын
Baby steps, take it tone by tone. And please ask questions if you have any
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