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@apoloeter7565
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, this video is amazingly good. As a Swain main, I think you have nailed the most important aspects of this champion. Also I want to share a thing that I have used on my games and also seen on some LEC matches, even if it's kind of situational: Against teams with a lot of mobility, rushing Rylais on the Mandate build may help a lot to keep the enemies in your ult range and makes easier to hit other important abilities such as your E or W. That being said, it's important to remember that your mana sustain will be kinda bad if you do this, so you have to be pretty sure that you have enough mana before going to teamfights.
@kodexi2761
Жыл бұрын
Just started learning Swain, he might be a new favourite. Great and informative guide, especially how to use his ult.
@Era2Sunrise
2 жыл бұрын
Just came back to the game, enjoyed this in-depth guide. Was thinking about maining 2-3 Champs until Im back into the game after a 4 year break. Picked swain, Kayle and Mordekaiser for this so this was very helpful! :D
@MatrixOne500
Жыл бұрын
Quality video. Informative, smart, covers all bases. Even had examples of lanes. Thanks for the effort man
@philoni5368
2 жыл бұрын
Phase rush is 100% needed into Ahri, since whenever you hit her with e pull she has a really easy time trading back with w and q right away, evening out the trade or even winning it if you can't juke it with more movement speed
@Solarious
6 ай бұрын
Happily admit im a LOL noob, but I had never considered or seen playing Swayn not support. Definitely going to try this out in mid/ top lane and see how I get on. I’ve played over 100 games support and really enjoy it. Great guide thank you!
@CalvinChan
2 жыл бұрын
Great guide. I start maining Swain after the rework as well as the durability patch. It is now my best champion. I feel Rylais is a must buy for Swain whereas Hourglass is not very useful for me (unless there are multiple assassin). One more trick I think you can add in for the video, is that if you are running away from enemy (say an Urgot is chasing you), you can throw an E to hook them but if you hook them, KEEP RUNNING and DO NOT PULL HIM IN. Yes you get a LITTLE heal but that pull probably will let them catch up to you and kill you so I often just hook them and run and not pull them in if I am running for my life. Hope that make sense to you.
@thomasmart
2 жыл бұрын
meta abuser
@Jesus.christ.your.bro.
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmart I don't see the problem he's not that op
@jojowastaken
2 жыл бұрын
what a great video. i like that you cut together laning phases against different champs
@phillipcoleman6267
Жыл бұрын
amazing guide. especially the team fight section. I need to really work on that portion. Thank you!
@dwellerofbog10
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you; I played swain when he first came out. When he was reworked I had no idea what was going on.
@jamesk2325
2 жыл бұрын
This rework was ridiculous. I played mid Swain before it and top Swain back in like S4 and the buff wasn't necessary imo but MAN is it FUN
@K0bbii
2 жыл бұрын
Great guide man i learned alot just gotta practice my matchups now : D
@falsepanda2981
2 жыл бұрын
Clear and well-reasoned, thank you
@Roasty420
Жыл бұрын
As a Malzahar one trick, it can be boring just playing the same champ over and over again, so been playing Swain the past 6 months and he is amazing! I’ve also replaced Vel’Koz and Kassadin with Talon, but seeing your tierlist for Swain I realized I might keep Kassadin.
@3ZH_
2 жыл бұрын
First time playing Swain mid and Phase Rush was so damn good!!!
@xanthos7764
2 жыл бұрын
Oh Mama not long ago I've added Swain to my champion pool I find him good against melee matchups. Thanks I look forward watching your guide
@elegantlemon7871
2 жыл бұрын
shok is always on time ! keep it up mate ! ✨✨
@franyfranco7
2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING guide, thanks
@vargot
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot two other good items: Force of nature is absolutely broken on Swain if the situation is right, and also Abyssal Mask has really good synergy if you team has AP. Also, I prefer the attack speed over ability haste, but that's personal preference. (It also helps a lot with conq - I play in relatively low elo, so the greedy scaling on swain is what wins me games))
@coach_pr0d1gy
2 жыл бұрын
Great guide, Mr. Shok; as always. Are you making a guide on Azir soon. I love to play him but I always get confused about Runes, when and why to pick him, etc... I also feel like I should be punished harder for how poor I play my early levels... Would be much appreciated, keep up the great work!
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Yep I will be doing Azir very soon
@UnderWDG
Жыл бұрын
Just tested Swain. And yeah mistake to R and try to tank instead of circle them...Tanks. very useful tip on how to play him and what you should aim to do... 👍
@matthewcross4735
2 жыл бұрын
You said revitalize was better but kept going back to Overgrowth so which is it? Revitalize seems better in theory. Very good guide! Thank you!
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
They are both pretty good, revitalize better for longer fights and overgrowth better for shorter fights (to stop you getting bursted)
@matthewcross4735
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague ahh ok thanks! I guess overgrowth is better for demonic as well right?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcross4735 I guess slightly yeah, can't say I've considered that though
@lefterislef5630
Жыл бұрын
what a greatly explanatory vid! Gzz! I wonder what you think about the new items in preseason!
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Feel like ROA isn't really worth it but abyssal might be, haven't tried jaksho either
@lefterislef5630
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague radiant virtue felt great for tanky swain! Haven't tried jaksho either
@p.ssstain
7 ай бұрын
DADDY SHOK TY FOR VID
@p.ssstain
6 ай бұрын
shok we need more vids
@ShokLeague
6 ай бұрын
They are coming I am rising from the dead
@XXLepic
2 жыл бұрын
This guide is completely flawless
@locosquad3588
Жыл бұрын
I literally used this macro and build in emerald -diamond and i got free LP. Amazing content just found out your channel you deserve a new subscriber 🙏💪💪
@Ethan-mv6wq
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Shok, great video, videos of this quality are amazing. Keep up the great work! Have you thought of making an Anivia guide? I wanted to see if I could blind pick her and I dont have a good place to start. Thanks
@diederikbrouwer5425
2 жыл бұрын
I think you can blind it, definitly in the mid/lower elo region. It's quite the uncommon pick, so people have little experience against it. If you are skilled in her combos you will do really well imo
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably make an Anivia guide eventually, I think she's blind pickable for sure
@Ethan-mv6wq
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Thanks Shok! It is hard for me to find out if a champion is blindable, so I think I will go with anivia
@MrApoplexic
Жыл бұрын
10/10 would recommend
@satuki397
2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@azzurotherapper7852
2 жыл бұрын
0.0 watching ur video i become so good at swain that im destroying soon i leave silver elo ty very much bro
@thomastronstrm4354
Жыл бұрын
Hey Shok! Very cool video, been maining swain all season. But what is your take on gargoyle stoneplate? I feel like the armor and MR goes a long way with his hp pool
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Can be good ultra late game but imo there are better items up until then
@Blackraccoon116
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Shok, very useful Video! What do you think about Riftmaker? I just love the omnivamp an flavour of the thing. Startet maining swain a short time ago. Would that be a viable Option?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
It's decent but other options are better imo
@vathecat
6 ай бұрын
Hi Shok, Do you feel like this rune set is still the most up to date? I've been seeing Aery in more aggressive early matchups against melees, with Conq in other cases? Any justification on using either instead of Phase Rush?
@ShokLeague
6 ай бұрын
I think these days it's better to go TP ghost and drop the phase rush, and then like you said you can go conq or aery
@Ashurus
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I was just about to ask if you're making a Swain guide lol Yasuo next? 👀
@NGaming2017
2 жыл бұрын
hes gonna make yasuo guide like next year minimum
@doomkingraye7692
2 жыл бұрын
Irelia? Azir? Who knows (tho I hope irelia)
@Ashurus
2 жыл бұрын
@@doomkingraye7692 I mained her the beginning of this season, now play mostly Viktor. There really isn't any good Irelia guide so if Shok makes one that be great, she's very "feel" oriented like Yasuo so after you learn basic combos you have to play 50-70 games to get a hang of her before you can start expressing skill. If you're an intuitive player she's great and you can learn from watching Irelking. Generally though, her lane goes like this: get shoved in wait for level 3 then land E and all in. You can hide E in a minion that you dash/kill with Q then E2 to stun enemy, Q them to consume mark, auto once at least maybe 2 or 3 then Q again and run down. Ideally bait out flash before using final Q. Irelking actually has a vid with tips, the title isn't clear so I can try and find it here.
@ivanrafael7644
Жыл бұрын
is there any possibility that you would make a smaller video just updating the things that changed with this guide
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
I might just make another long video
@Mentok211
2 жыл бұрын
Building Zhonyas outside of certain circumstances is a noob trap right now.
@michaelhuang7007
Жыл бұрын
Any changes to runes or items in S13? Phase Rush still better than Conq? Liandries still seems standard to me but curious as to what you think about the Jak'sho + Abyssal Mask build for more tankier needs
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
I think atm conq rylai liandry or conq roa rylai seems to be better
@tobiaskubler2079
2 жыл бұрын
wow nice tut...can you do this for swain support?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Never played Swain support sorry :/
@blodhevn2353
2 жыл бұрын
is Q start better? i thought E start was best? to start stacking passive as early as possible? or only for invades?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Both are good, Q start is good for pushing lane and harassing melees or to defensively trade vs other low CD mages. E start is better if you're gonna concede prio anyway and just want to start stacking early
@michaelhuang7007
Жыл бұрын
I feel like there should be a guide on flanking lol btw is Katarina really a free matchup? Her ult perfectly counters Swain.
@Shikarou188
2 жыл бұрын
Call me an idiot but I built Nashor's Tooth on Swain in 3 games and I carried all of them. Probably because of the massive AP it gives in the early game.
@GandalfTheSilver
Жыл бұрын
Is scorch not worth it for laning in low elo where ppl don't usually know to punish matchup advantages?
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
I just think scorch in general isn't that worth it on Swain, maybe you could do it in melee matchups but normally you just can't proc it enough to be worth it
@GandalfTheSilver
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Okay thanks! edit: I tried phase rush on Swain recently and it feels amazing on him being able to dip in or out of range of your opponent after an e.
@mr.byggeee2226
Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on building rylai into jaksho in this season
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Looks really OP
@Gustavo-vt5rk
Жыл бұрын
Would you say this is still valid on current S12?
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Yessir
@Gustavo-vt5rk
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Alright bet, thank you
@eLmasten1991
2 жыл бұрын
What is your take on Moonstone Swain? And isnt it good to rush Rylai over mythic item first in some situations?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
You can rush Rylai over mandate but I wouldn't rush it over Liandry. Never tried moonstone swain personally
@eLmasten1991
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague Thanks alot! I always played Conq and rushed Rylai then Liandry. But after I watched your guide yesterday, I now play with Phase Rush and rush Liandry first into Demonic. And gues what... I just gained 200 LP and is now diamond 4 :D .. I know that's not good, but I'm happy! Thank you!
@gregoryreising
11 ай бұрын
@@eLmasten1991 diamond 4 is still good, don't let the haters tell you otherwise!
@WYVnico
2 жыл бұрын
karfus mid guide when?
@felipealo223
Жыл бұрын
what you think about eletrocute? I am a main swain and i like it very much because i think its very easy to activacte it.
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
It's ok, I think the other options are better though
@BjenTheBlaster
Жыл бұрын
Do u need a takedown on the champ to get a stack? Or could u be in bot, your Rengar gets a pentakill in top, u get 5 stacks?
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Dont need a takedown but I think you need to be nearby
@BjenTheBlaster
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague hey man, I tried playing Swain yesterday and my gameplay improved so much, the tutorial helped like soooooo much, thank you. Also I think how it works now is that if an enemy gets eliminated (nearby indeed) that they drop a soul fragment and u have to go get it (like a Thresh soul)
@dwebay7578
2 жыл бұрын
I can't deal with the viktor matchup to save my life. At least with ori and syndra if you have fancy feet you can dodge all of their stuff but vikor has undodgable poke with an incredibly long range E AND he gets a shield on top of that, oh and he can just stun you if you ever e him. Idk i feel like that champ is unbeatable in lane unless you are a high kill threat assasin or earlygame champ. Point and click poke drives me nuts.
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Viktor is a very tough matchup, he does lack kill pressure though so even if you fall down in CS a bit as long as you don't die at least you can be kinda useful
@pirga19
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I just played against swain, I cannot understand duration of his ult, I waited like 30 seconds, he killed all my teammates and it still didn't end. And his ult heals him even under turret with me spinning on him as Garen, mind you we had same number of items and I was as fed as him. I mean wtf man, how can he have unlimited duration on something that powerful.
@kirdiekirdie
Жыл бұрын
It ends quickly if you go away from him.
@miguelaguilargarcia418
Жыл бұрын
Ok but with that said. Noxus above all
@CurryMS_
2 жыл бұрын
after the scorch buffs, can you go that just for more lane dominance?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
I think you could vs melee champions, I still think you're too short range to proc it often enough vs ranged champs
@abdelrhmangoda2007
Жыл бұрын
what about Jak'sho the protean as Mythic item?
@stevechapman2301
2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel this has changed with the nerfs to resolve tree and sustain
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Still the same imo
@duyanho6044
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, when I play mage vs melee, I can deny oponet from cs, but I even loss more cs than them( last hit problem), now I can solve this problem and feel much better, but I dont still understand why there are the different, is it such big gap between when I have 15cs while the opoent has 30cs???
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
16 cs or so is roughly equal to a kill so it definitely adds up if you miss a lot of CS
@lordmidas556
Жыл бұрын
Ghost Ignite is the best on him
@PsDnK
2 жыл бұрын
Normally you don't get any ganks nor a hovering jungler. Always expect their jungler is constantly in your lane, and that you always have to help your team since they cannot win their own lane.
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
My man has been scarred by soloq
@PsDnK
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague How it has been for the past 6 years
@dolnarr
2 жыл бұрын
What do u think about thornail on swain
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Not that good imo
@jacquegusto4038
2 жыл бұрын
Question: do you still think first strike orianna is the way? Rank 1s seem to still be running aeri/phase rush. But i have been having success with first strike in low diamond
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
I think you can take it in easy matchups but I'd still take the other ones a fair amount as well
@franciscoribeiro9609
2 жыл бұрын
i love the guide but how is lb not a strong laner she is one of the strongest laners in the game sir
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Not really, LB has really long cooldowns and a lot of burst but she isn't very good at trading early. She's strong early game because of her gank setup but not because of her 1v1 and she will lose to any lane bully.
@a3r074
2 жыл бұрын
Can we use ghost to push the enemies?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Ashurus
Жыл бұрын
thoughts on RoA?
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Pretty good now that the cost has been adjusted
@Ashurus
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague do you think its good go-to mythic and save liandry vs tanky comps?
@zreed545
Жыл бұрын
Sylas destroys me on swain.
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
If you fall behind it becomes horrible, but he doesn't have great ways to actually punish you in lane if you play it safe
@zreed545
Жыл бұрын
@@ShokLeague feels bad if he lands e , I dont know how to come back from that bad trade.
@members90
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a support build for this?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
never played Swain support I'm afraid :/
@qohelet8398
2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Gargoyle's Stoneplate on Swain?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
It's decent but I think he has too many other good items
@MrMeddyman
Жыл бұрын
No love for Electrocute? T_T
@ShokLeague
Жыл бұрын
Just not as good as the others imo
@sterlingarcher9560
2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what bot electrocute?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
imo it's not that good
@harrisonhowatcunningham1792
2 жыл бұрын
What about riftmaker?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Not as good as the other mythics imo
@kirdiekirdie
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't give mana so your run oom.
@carter5103
Жыл бұрын
Oce moment vid
@nathanamos6698
Жыл бұрын
I tried this and went 0/8
@ShadowSpike94
2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Abyssal Mask to get some tank stats and at the same time dealing a bit more damage? is it just not worth it? cuz with Abyssal and Sorcerer's Shoes you get up to 40ish magic pen.
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
eh it's ok but I feel like demonic kinda fits that role better
@icehot900
2 жыл бұрын
i find aery is also insane on him early, thoughts?
@ShokLeague
2 жыл бұрын
Don't think you should be able to proc it enough to make it better than other options
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