This is the most passive aggressive video I have ever seen. Louis Rossman would be proud.
@iqnill
6 жыл бұрын
Let's pray that nobody got triggered and needs therapy now.
@fakshen1973
6 жыл бұрын
Rossman is into studio recording gear as well (mentioned in one of his videos).
@slowgaffle
5 жыл бұрын
haha of course i found fellow Rossman viewers here...
@samtrenter6438
6 жыл бұрын
real talk, this is one of the scariest things about getting in to eurorack.
@lassejensen1210
6 жыл бұрын
I totally second this. Power and cables were easily the most intimidating parts of getting into it for me as well.
@automaticbazooti
3 жыл бұрын
i've built a few PC's in my short time here, but as i watch this waiting for my 6U case to show up; I'm terrified lol
@MichaelGilboe
6 жыл бұрын
I am just diving into Eurorack with about $3000 of modules on the way, and I had never seen anyone discuss power. Whew! Thanks in advance!
@milk_bath
6 жыл бұрын
Lol good luck figuring all your modules out.
@BosseCory
6 жыл бұрын
Dear sweet lord, you've spent $3000 to start? Have you considered this might be a tad brash?
@kaibarrera9911
6 жыл бұрын
Dont worry about the haters Michael. Youre good just go for it
@MichaelGilboe
6 жыл бұрын
I’m not a newbie to synths or music production, just to Eurorack. But I like diving in whole hog, and I’ve been watching lots of videos and planning out the rack for a while. I’m excited.
@BosseCory
6 жыл бұрын
Well, alright. Good luck, then!
@AFinalForm
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I'm surprised at how rarely it seems to be covered in "getting started with eurorack" videos and guides.
@blakasmurf
11 ай бұрын
What boggles my mind here is that 10 pin PCB headers for ribbon cables are EVERYWHERE. I've got a box full of them when building my DIY Midi2CV they're really hard to just buy one unit. So I don't get how every manufacturer doesn't just have a box of these in the corner of their factory. Finally it's quite easy to protect the circuit from reverse polarity. Again not doing both is a questionable choice especially for relatively expensive modules!!!
@jakebrown7395
4 жыл бұрын
"This is Nam, there are no rules." Don't know if he meant Vietnam, or the National Association of Music Merchants, but it works both ways.
@richarquis
3 жыл бұрын
Alex, thank you. I only received my first case (Rackbrute 6U) and my first 5 modules (Mutable Instruments Stages, Frames, Blinds, Marbles, and Links) just yesterday. The module ribbons were pre-plugged, but I checked the red stripe to -12V on the other end, even though the plugs could only go in one way. Everything is fine. But I am so happy I saw this - THANK YOU - It could be the difference between ecstasy and sorrow someday down the line. As always, we know who to turn to.
@deejaydubla
6 жыл бұрын
A spot of red nail polish on the -12v side of the pcb of any unshrouded header is a good idea if the orientation is in doubt.
@FILML4D4N
6 жыл бұрын
I have done that too :-)
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
Good idea that, just permanently add in the missing info on the module!
@driteronikqi
5 жыл бұрын
oooh kinky
@dimensionalineage
5 ай бұрын
This masterful presentation is doing the lord's work.
@waltersmetak
6 жыл бұрын
Man, don't even trust the mighty "The Definitive Connecting Power Thread" on Muff!!!! But must say, your advice on connecting Doepfers (and, yes, I have an a148 S&H!) is priceless! Their modules are a pain in the neck to connect and you always have to email Dieter about the right way on hooking them up - thanks a million for the video! One of your best! Essential!
@paradiddle16
2 жыл бұрын
I know it's an old vid but just bought my first modules and this is extremely helpful. Thanks a million!
@Dan2Hibiki
6 жыл бұрын
I wish this video existed when I started out. Stressed me the hell out putting the system together for the first time
@lassejensen1210
6 жыл бұрын
You and me both.
@kaibarrera9911
6 жыл бұрын
same
@waltersmetak
6 жыл бұрын
Nothing more tense than connecting a module - always sweat terribly when the time comes to turn the thing on - you never really know.....
@Dan2Hibiki
6 жыл бұрын
especially considering you're often looking at frying $300+ with the flick of a switch...
@iaint999
Жыл бұрын
You sir, are a bloody life saver. Just watched this, watched it again, went online to read the MN Morphagene manual (I know right?), ignored the forums, and I'm now the proud owner of a fully functioning module I have no clue how to use....it doesn't say in the manual you have to have balls of steel to operate this stuff...I owe you a pint, cheers bro.
@RobertMaxwellMediaCorp
6 жыл бұрын
Good timing releasing this video since I'm about to power up my new case for the first time tomorrow! Thanks for reminding me not to be too hasty in my excitement
@frankie1833
6 жыл бұрын
bless you, Mylar. your pain is our gain. would've KILLED for a video like this when i was getting into eurorack years ago!
@CurrentFantasy
3 жыл бұрын
This video is like when a celebrity gets busted for drunk driving and is ordered by the court to do a serious drunk driving PSA. Sobering. And appreciated. I've yet to kill a module, but have definitely rolled the dice a few times. 😬
@iqnill
6 жыл бұрын
Funny that... The only module I ever fried was a Doepfer Wasp. It came from the shop with the cable wrong way around (the red...) Luckily the thing that blew was a dual OpAmp with I replaced quick smart. The lesson is: 1. Electrickery is made of smoke. 2. The smoke is kept in small back boxes with metal legs. 3. Once you release the smoke electrickery cannot work. End of class.
@EricAdamsonMI
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you opted for looking things over, rather than making a Yule Log video of your limping module! Too many people, faced with a module struggling, immediately give up and euthanize the poor thing.
@ShivJG13
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I've just take delivery of my first euro rack case, and two Doepfer modules. I've had slight anxiety about connecting them properly after reading people's horror stories. I'm still mildly anxious, but I have the tools now to hopefully not set fire to stuff! 🔥🔥🔥😂
@sear2558
6 жыл бұрын
omg preach - blowing a module with this simple mistake is horrendous. somebody needed to make a video like this for a long time - glad it was mylarmelodies
@noisejockey
6 жыл бұрын
Alex, this is God's work you're doing with this video, man. Also, additional note about unshrouded headers: I know all of this, and I STILL killed a module by not literally being able to see well enough by SKIPPING AN ENTIRE ROW OF PINS. Not offsetting, up or down, but side to side. BOOM, spark, smoke - luckily it was a single capacitor that blew (I found a chunk of it in the case later on). The Make Noise boards don't even have pins that go UPWARDS, like the Doepfers; they are parallel to the back of the case, making it even harder to align properly.
@stevebuchan6642
6 жыл бұрын
I thought 30 minutes on plugging modules in? Who is this guy kidding? This is sage knowledge. Learn it!
@stevenmiller213
Ай бұрын
wow what a video, just answered every question i had about eurorack! Thanks!
@donaldmartin3365
4 жыл бұрын
Just seeing this, and even though I consider myself pretty vigilant in plugging in my modules, you have made me both paranoid and grateful. Checking all my connections this moment just to be sure. Thank you for the valuable tip and necessary lecture. Cheers
@gonzalorigada2561
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! If I havent watched this video before yesterday, I would have burned a module. Very similar to what have happened to you, only difference was that what was facing the wrong side was the black plastic thing that conects to the case. You saved my module. Cheers man.
@BeauSkowron
3 жыл бұрын
Mylar, I watched your Intellijel Metropolis vid 4 years ago and thought "I'll never do that....". I picked up a mini doepfer box yesterday purely to power the Metropolis which arrived today. You're a dangerous man - but thank god for your videos. I'll read the manual now.
@mylarmelodies
3 жыл бұрын
Modular satisfaction is a dish best served cold! 🙌
@BeauSkowron
3 жыл бұрын
haha you animal.... I write acoustic stoner folk music, why the fk do I have this nonsense crazy sh!t in front of me?!? You, Mylar. That vid just sat in my brain for 4 years and now it's real. Genius.
@diglet553
6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're doing the video anyway, it's a good warning to all the newcomers, as well as a decent reminder. I managed to fry a DIY project a long while ago, all because I accidently put a connector on backwards and didn't check it thoroughly before switching on the power.
@Lightbath
6 жыл бұрын
So well done. And the Monty Python (or presumably some other nuanced English humour that reads as Monty Python to ‘this here’ American) section heading treatments are ACE.
@davidknight754
6 жыл бұрын
Lightbath -- And now...... the larch. The...... Larch!
@thomassynths
6 жыл бұрын
To augment your Doepfer shaming, I will go on record and shame Cwejman for his idiosyncratic use of the stripe. It's completely unacceptable.
@sampleexamplemusic
6 жыл бұрын
yeah, seriously. that is a garbage design to pull on people who spend so much on such modules...
@VictorSteiner
6 жыл бұрын
11:00 ... let the anger flow through you!
@VictorSteiner
6 жыл бұрын
PS: love to hear „Schadenfreude“ from a non native speaker ;)
@fakshen1973
6 жыл бұрын
You spend a premium amount for a Cwejman and he dickishly decides to break convention. Fuck that guy and his modules, no matter how sweet they sound.
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
Well I actually hung out with Maho Cwejman herself this weekend and to their credit - she explained the reason they put red as "+" is because in electronics, red always means positive!! In that respect it is more logical than Doepfer. But unfortunately it's the opposite of the more widely-owned-and-traded brand. Bottom line is there are no standards, no 'rules' - the ultimate lesson of the video is 'be aware, be informed, and just triple check everything'. With that said, I do think Doepfer need to put a note about power info in each and every one of their module manuals.
@kenschestok9515
2 жыл бұрын
found myself back at this episode after I accidentally unplugged my ribbon cable from my a124 wasp filter and saw no marking on the pcb and nothing in the manual. thanks again for this!!!
@kgbinfo
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I am about to get into eurorack for the first time. Having people like you willing to help newbies takes off a lot of the terrifying guess work. Oh and also your voice is like dark red velvet and toasted chestnuts.
@simonsandleitner2341
Жыл бұрын
You are so pissed 😂 I totally get it. Thank you for the great guide!
@justawatchin2
3 жыл бұрын
thanks. watching this video before plugging anything in convinced me to trade all my powered modules for passive ones. sorted.
@cellardoreproductions
4 жыл бұрын
you just saved me from plugging in the cables wrong!! thanks : )
@jimboburgess42069
6 жыл бұрын
Red stripe down is super handy for the 143-4 quad vco/vclfo where the power is horizontal.
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...eeeeeeexactly. Wow
@AshBashVids
6 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn't add a stripe on that one. My A-110-4 has a horizontal header, but has an indicator for -12v.
@thestinkyweasel6297
6 жыл бұрын
This seemed like such a silly video. I know all of this, and I know power... BUT.... This was GREAT. Very in-depth and lots of info on various modules and manufacturers! I guess people in Euro come from all backgrounds, and this is wonderful advice. I have 2 modules that had zero cues on the boards, and only one of those had instructions in the manual, so I had to contact the manuf. for the other one. NBD people, don't lose your fabulous investments!
@WorldFungusChamp
2 жыл бұрын
I was rewatching this today and it’s very ironic because I just found out I had a Happy Nerding module connected backwards! Luckily, even though I’ve powered my case on with it installed wrong, it still works. Gotta had it to designers for including reverse power protection in modules more and more. Thank you for reminding me to always quadruple check my power connections!
@shonkyboy
3 жыл бұрын
Someone said aggressive passive dude, now i was at the Hacienda when it went south - talking electronic pioneers and stuff - Amnesia and stuff.... then 92..... , this is not aggressive, this is ASSERTIVE - this guy helped me big style,. Anyone else that whines, gets a poke in the eye. I came here to find no-nonsense - this is no nonsense - great, great stuff
@CoolspyGaming
6 жыл бұрын
The quality of your videos are top-notch. Greeting from Sweden! :)
@abominablemusic
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently soldering up a DIY module, so this is super useful!
@gerundgerund
6 жыл бұрын
I had this exact issue with a Doepfer module I just got, and before plugging it in I scoured the net for answers, found all conflicting answers after 30 minutes of searching, took a frustrated guess and thankfully didn't blow it up---the next day this video was posted!
@skunksmisery
6 жыл бұрын
Bad news: Dead Module Good news: Another Mylar episode.
@Larry30102
3 жыл бұрын
Great video and can't be overstated how important this is. As a newbie, this is most valuable. Great teacher!!
@romerouno17
2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this wonderful explanation!
@Banksyyt
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. It really helped me.
@aren6
6 жыл бұрын
eurorack fuses please
@user-xl1qb5yn1z
6 жыл бұрын
$100 each
@pourtaghi
6 жыл бұрын
They'd probably be bespoke and lovingly screen printed pieces of silly, silly art. I do love Eurorack.
@sopasopasson5563
2 жыл бұрын
Thx ! Basic info - feel better knowing this before installing $$$ modules. Most brands are fail proof, but some are not ! Cwejman for example !
@cnfuzz
3 жыл бұрын
Use a multimeter in conductive mode to check your cable orientation
@Futureveterans
6 жыл бұрын
FYI, the PSU3 power supply from doepfer actually gives you +5v nowadays. The old ones indeed didn't gave +5v and you had to install a small converter.
@accidentaltrigger
6 жыл бұрын
It's a good topic of conversation and it's definitely worth noting not to disconnect modules from the ribbon cable, ever! And check cable connection to module if you buy something second hand👍👍
@localhost4460
3 жыл бұрын
As a newbie: this was incredibly great advice! Thanks!
@felixfelix9084
4 жыл бұрын
DUUUUDE this video just saved me my first eurorack modul, a Soma Lyra 8 fx it came with a foulty cabel o.o I am forever in your debt thx ^-^
@mylarmelodies
4 жыл бұрын
!!! 👍
@CraigMorrisTrumpet
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have been a fan and follower of yours for a long time, and love your content. I also listen to and love your podcast. Anyway, this video was so helpful to me as I just successfully added my first module to my Make Noise Shared System. All went well thanks to your guidance. Much appreciated!
@mylarmelodies
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks m8, glad to have you listening and watching!! 👍
@ryanpwm
5 жыл бұрын
excellent tutorial. I try to run this in the background while I unbox a new unit.
@derivativ3
4 жыл бұрын
I had a similar story of totally annihilating a module... I'm actually going into the long and treacherous process of designing and making my own modules, and the first thing i'm doing is making sure as hell that every one of my modules has reverse power protection... phew!
@lukasm-8845
3 жыл бұрын
just came back to this video as I'm assembling my first rack (partly thanks to your vids) and i must've drank like 5 l of water while watching bc the amount of saltiness in this video is off the charts.
@mylarmelodies
3 жыл бұрын
Hah, I hope at least no burnouts, just excess sodium
@lukasm-8845
3 жыл бұрын
@@mylarmelodies nope, all good! all thanks to you!
@wellurban
6 жыл бұрын
Never disconnecting the cable from the module is sound advice, but not always achievable. Sometimes it’s impossible to reach your hand into the back of the case with the cable attached to the module. And sometimes a cable won’t reach at all, so you have to swap it for a longer one. I’ve made a habit of always looking for markings on the PCB before disconnecting, though, and for those like Doepfer without markings, keep a Sharpie handy to make your own.
@j.k.6861
10 ай бұрын
I plugged my joranalogue select 2 the wrong way and didn‘t even notice for a week. Until I plugged a cable in the module. The whole case got quiet. I was shocked. But everything seems to work as nothing has happened. Lesson learned!
@modularmemories1840
2 жыл бұрын
So i got the A-148 today (btw they added the word RED on the pcb so u know what way to plug the wire) i plugged it in correctly and it worked fine. But then i turned off my rackbrute and the power supply just didnt turn off. The modules plugged in past it did but I could definitely smell something heating up somewhere. So ive now added “make sure your case turns off normally” to my list of things to do when i get a new module.
@Peter_S_
6 жыл бұрын
There's really zero excuse today for a manufacturer to not use keyed shrouds on headers and keyed IDC connectors. The additional cost is trivial in manufacture and the maker gets it all back in customer goodwill on the 1st board which escapes release of the magic blue smoke.
@M_Campbell
6 жыл бұрын
Problem is that keyed shrouds lead people to trust that the cable itself is correct, which is dangerous. There's zero excuse for not having reverse polarity protection on modules though.
@MUNRO13
6 жыл бұрын
Personally I hate shrouds on power supplies. Bloody nightmare getting connectors out.
@Peter_S_
6 жыл бұрын
M Campbellell... problem??? If you supply a correct cable with the product and everybody uses cables of the same standard then the only people with problems will be those who try to use wrongly wired cables and Darwin takes care of those people pretty quickly. The computer industry went through this way back in the 70s. Some people paid attention to it. Apple for instance has been using shrouds in everything since 1979 and as a result during the 80s and 90s, Apple equipment didn't constantly end up in the shop with blown boards because of misaligned connectors like PC hardware did. The same is true for peripherals on all platforms. This isn't rocket science. I completely agree with you about polarity protection. A 2.2 ohm resistor on the rail feeds with reverse biased 1N5408s behind them should be a minimum. There's no reason people can't use polyfuses either.
@Peter_S_
6 жыл бұрын
MUNRO MUSIC, that's poppycock. I've been using connectors like these www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=5103308-5 for 40 years. The shroud makes zero, repeat *_ZERO_* difference unless you try to plug into it backwards. There are plenty of deep shrouds with eject levers too if you want that. They used to be the absolute standard across the computer industry in the 70s.
@joebogatko9058
6 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same thing. It's baffling why every eurorack producer doesn't do this by default.
@corticallarvae
2 жыл бұрын
your so angry... i hope this is cathartic brother. i love the humanity
@matthsmatthsmatths
6 жыл бұрын
First module I ever plugged in was the wrong orientation. It went 💥. Cwejman modules can be any orientation without blowing them - which is great!
@conatusprinciple4115
3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Doepfer module for my completely new rack! 😅
@BadChizzle
4 жыл бұрын
Your speaking voice is very entertaining. I understand this is not the point... but I’m hoping you won’t mind a little ego boosting. Going back to the subject at hand... If you save just one module... it’s all been worth it! I, being very new to modular... thank you.
@mikeellisonhimself
3 жыл бұрын
Very important advice. That's the problem with people who make products but don't know how to engineer properly (even those who ought to know better).
@Vincent-jv1pp
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video I would have blown half of my system up the first time I turn it on.
@JohnEmuu
6 жыл бұрын
the first module I ever bought came to me with the cable connected to the module wrongly. I had no idea, and connected it but nothing happened. Lucky though no damage was done. When I figured out it was the wrong way around, I turned it around and it worked. So poo poo to Vintage King Audio, and horary for Pittsburgh Modular Waveforms!
@BottleBass1977
6 жыл бұрын
Alex! Great video, nice to see the basic stuff being covered so well. Ugghh, don't get me started on ribbon headers :O little tip I picked up along the way - most (if not all) IDC ribbon headers will have a small triangle in the moulding directly next to Pin 1, which should be the Red stripe side.
@martinjaakola5634
3 жыл бұрын
I only burned out one Maths do to watching this video, thanks!
@murat_buyuk
4 жыл бұрын
Funny told very important modular topic. Thanks mate!
@LillySchwartz
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to say that all the modules I just bought have keyed sockets or "either way" power. Seems like things are getting a tad better on this front? Maybe not with Doepfer modules though 🙃
@midierror
6 жыл бұрын
This video is sponsored by Red Stripe. Providing alcoholic consolation to those who fry their modules since 1928
@RoboticusMusic
6 жыл бұрын
What about tragedies on the front of the panel? Connecting input to input, output to output, connecting Buchla to eurorack, banana into 1/8", Buchla output to eurorack output, adding splitters in the mix to the previously stated mistakes potentially compounding problems, etc. I think I fried a microphone once by plugging the mic into the input of a feedback loop guitar pedal called Eye of God (I'm pretty sure it was plugged in correctly) I think the power somehow went backwards and turned the mic into a speaker.
@RoboticusMusic
6 жыл бұрын
Also wondering what you think about preventing fire risks in the studio and what to do if one does occur, like what type of extinguisher won't ruin adjacent gear while still being effective. I've also heard that lead-free solder can lead to fires because it grows dendrites over time that can cause short circuits. You never really know if there was repair on used gear done with this kind of solder. There have been quite a few studios burn down but I'm not sure what the common element has been.
@RoboticusMusic
6 жыл бұрын
Also wondering what happens when CV is plugged into audio, audio into CV. I've heard that the results differ between modules from nothing to destruction. There are so many modules that don't label in's and out's, some just print funny symbols on their panels and expect you to figure it out. Once you start messing with things like 5 way cable splitters partially connected to other 5 way cable splitters I can imagine it gets to be a lot to keep track of to make sure you don't destroy 10 modules with 1 dumb cable mistake.
@mgscheue
6 жыл бұрын
RoboticusMusic In Euro at least (and I think pretty much everything except Buchla), there’s really no distinction between audio and CV. The only real patching danger is an out to an out and even then most modules are protected against that.
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah none of the front panel stuff should have much of an effect, you'd have to be _really_ trying, to break something that way (Using a multiple to sum 5 10V signals to a tender input somewhere else...etc)
@mgscheue
6 жыл бұрын
And even with that, I *think* you can never get above the 12 V rail voltage.
@Jkeane1337
4 жыл бұрын
I literally just got into eurorack and assumed that it did not matter how you plugged in modules, plugged in everything wrong. Shout out to the make noise skiff for having a failsafe that it won't turn on if plugged in improperly. Would of been a 1800$ mistake, watched this right after and learned to not just do it with this stuff lol.
@tibbarnogard8404
6 жыл бұрын
Dopefer sound when red goes down, dopefer explodes when red uploads. Boom, fixed you mnemonic
@Marshallangelo
3 жыл бұрын
Rest in Piece Doepfer sample and hold 🙏🏻
@MUNRO13
6 жыл бұрын
I’ve done this loads of times but everything just flashes so I turn it off. I have the tip-top station 252 case and I think it might have its own protection built in?
@eighth_wave
6 жыл бұрын
BARE PINS, BRUV 😂
@RichardLacyMusic
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Public Service Video. They should show this on day one of Modular School. I don't think I've ever bought a Doepfer module that wasn't shipped with the cable already attached. Second hand has been a different matter of course. I use Doepfer cases and the buss boards are a nightmare, exactly as you proved. Even when the connector is the right way up, you can go a pin too high. You just can't see what you're doing. Just wait until you're an old fart like me and your eyesight gets crappy. It's terrible. This is the actual reason old guys go 5u... Another Doepfer thing: Older cases with the PSU 2 Linear supply, have no 5v. The newer cases with the PSU 3 do have 5v on the buss boards. Ta!
@LavendelBrei
6 жыл бұрын
The absolute MOST FRUSTRATING POWER ARCANA is that if your case has a power supply with a converter manufactured by Meanwell it will break the Rene Module from Make Noise and void the warranty. And if you think, well I've never heard of Meanwell, it must be some obscure brand, it's the converter that Intellijel and MDLRcase, Error instruments, and others use so you might have one and not know it. This is why you read the manual.
@corradomorgana
6 жыл бұрын
Did it with my slew limiter from Doepfer...fixed it easily. Keyed sockets FTW! Especially when a tad pissed. Red stripe up. Oopps...;-)
@asciisynth
5 жыл бұрын
I mark +12V and -12V on my PCB silkscreens, -12V is always down, and they all include reverse protection diodes. So buy my modules, at least you (probably) won't destroy them :)
@asciisynth
5 жыл бұрын
Also I find that IDC connectors with wide top + bottom prevent plugging them in above or below where they're supposed to go, because the sides knock in to the pins which aren't connected.
@extralifedisco
5 жыл бұрын
Have never understood why every manufacturer doesn't just put power diodes on the input. Practically every guitar pedal has it and 9v center positive plugs are about as common as hens' teeth. 1N4001s are like $0.02 each, and a pair would prevent this problem ever happening (you could still plug it in wrong, it would just not turn on). The "either way" connector is a brilliant idea as well - 4 diodes for a full bridge rectifier and you can forget labeling. Still possible to misalign the pins and short the rails to ground, but easily fixed by using shrouded connectors. I'm developing a new sequencer module now, will be sure to incorporate the full-bridge in my next revision.
@AshBashVids
5 жыл бұрын
Bridge rectification isn't ideal for analogue modules
@streyt
4 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for the helpful video
@philmaguire_
6 жыл бұрын
Doepfer outlines it all on their website. Annoying that it isn't on the PCBs, sure, but it's not exactly blind guessing.
@TheAechBomb
4 жыл бұрын
a product should be usable without using external resources, no exceptions.
@dg_art_
11 ай бұрын
Thank u 🙏 my good ser
@BRNTmodularmusic
6 жыл бұрын
Well, actually, Doepfer invented Eurorack. So -12vDown rule is part of these modular, as important as 3U, the hp or where to set the holes (which manufacturers don’t obey as well). And it’s not on the modules’ manual because it’s on the System A-100. They made all the manuals like parts of a (very large nowadays) manual for the system. But... yeah, Eurorack is now bigger than his father and they should accept that they’re just another manufacturer for this system... AND JUST PUT A LITTLE RED LINE to indicate where -12 is. Thanks MM
@AshBashVids
6 жыл бұрын
I remember getting one of those massive manuals with my basic system years ago - explains all of this in detail. Doepfer has put markings on it's later modules since they're not always vertical due to having more condensed PCBs.
@Lokua
6 жыл бұрын
Some of these manufacturers aren't even consistent within their own collection!
@TayTayMakesBeats
3 жыл бұрын
Getting my first module and case this week, I'm excited but ready for a panic attack when turning it on for the first time.
@forallxexistsepsilon
2 жыл бұрын
My newer Doepfer A148 has "RED LINE" and white markings at the bottom pin.
@iantheorem
5 жыл бұрын
Very good points!!!
@joemcm1
4 жыл бұрын
hi ive got an oakley hvm module with a strange 5 pin power -any ideas on what to do with it-ive not got a manual
@mattgaines5927
6 жыл бұрын
In all my future modules I plan on adding a bridge rectifier so you can insert the power cable either way! This is common on brand new uMutable modules thanks to Jim. I'm also really liking that little skiff, I think it makes a good case for small demos like this ;)
@YaFunklord
2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's not normally done because of the voltage drop of diodes.
@mattgaines5927
2 жыл бұрын
@@YaFunklord Yes, there is some loss of headroom from the diode approach. There's a lot of it in Eurorack though so there's usually not much point in fighting over half a volt or so. That said it would be a bit smarter to utilize a MOSFET approach to minimize losses.
@blitbleep
6 жыл бұрын
Check Paul´s talk in Control. He talks about it and offers some guidance in module designs to avoid this exact problem
@blitbleep
6 жыл бұрын
Also, design flaws like NOT BEING ABLE TO UPDATE THE FIRMWARE WITHOUT A FRICKIN OBSCURE OUT OF DATE PROGRAMMER. Im looking at you Qubit.
@WiredSpaceWizard
5 жыл бұрын
Dearest Manufacturers, please clearly indicate how to plug the damn thing in! Thanks, Mylar for watching out for us and helping keep our sonic explorations a tad bit less frustrating! :D
@WearySisyphus
5 жыл бұрын
thanks mate
@etchonmind3687
5 жыл бұрын
Another idea that might be helpful is to make your own cables. You build your own system anyway, so why not the cables. That way, you can also make cables just as long as they need to be, which saves a lot of space and avoids spaghetti behind the modules. It probably has some electrical benefits on top of that. Here is what I do: 1. Shrouded connector busboards only. Those will ensure you plug the cable in a consistent, right way. 2. Normal grey cables with red stripe for "standard" modules (shrouded connectors, clearly labeled pin layout etc). Red stripe indicates -12V and is (just) and optical aid. Don´t forget to finger trace when plugging in. For my setup, this would the vast majority of modules. 3. Different color cables (rainbow colors) for any modules that can be tricky. Tricky means: No standard pin layout or orientation, bare connector without shroud, missing clear labeling of the -12V pins etc. This way, they stick out and will flag connections for extra attention. You will plug cables out of modules at some point in time, so this is a reminder to check carefully. Don´t forget to finger trace TWICE when plugging in. A set of 30m cable plus connectors and crimp tool costs less than your average module and will give you a) peace of mind and b) neat cabling for better access to the space behind modules.
@JohnSmith-dh3kx
2 жыл бұрын
@etch on mind A crimp tool is not needed. Just squeeze it in a vice.
@THECHILLIPANDA
6 жыл бұрын
Dave Smiths Curtis filter module was one that caught me out, once when I was moving modules about it not long after it was fitted correctly was the only module that doesn't have a notched end on it's ribbon connector and I forgot, plugged it in the wrong way, I use row power with flying bus cables as I think they are excellent, seemed to damage only the row power I had, the 5 volt light is out (I don't use it although it seems still work, probably not for 5 volt though). I always read the manuals and check when getting a new module, just for my own paranoid connection sanity.
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
FWIW I killed the A148 with the Row Power I show in the vid(!) In this instance it came down to the protection on the module end (or lack of, I should say)
@THECHILLIPANDA
6 жыл бұрын
yeah, pretty much can't do about that if there is no protection.
@bigkingsha
3 жыл бұрын
At first sight, I thought the flaming Doepfer was real and not a composite VFX shot, but I don't see any plastic melting nor pieces falling away. Goodness you have salvaged some of the electronics for a homemade mult?
@nntblst
2 жыл бұрын
By the way… if you get a Doepfer A 118-2 the “red stripe down” doesnt apply because the power header is horizontal.
@mylarmelodies
2 жыл бұрын
😮💨
@smartassrecords
6 жыл бұрын
I bought a doepfer 9U case from someone in Seattle . This person, for whqtever reason , had one of the bus boards upside down to the other two . I was caught unaware as i had another 9U from doepfer and it wqs proper . Apparently this guy planned to build a bigger rack and use these bus boards and power then decided against it and put the middle bus board back in upside down and failed to mention it to me . Bottom line is check re check and then check again all the possible powering .
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
WTF, that’s an accident waiting to happen - lucky nothing burned
@smartassrecords
6 жыл бұрын
No not so lucky , burned a couple modules , they were easily fixed , but i was livid because a simple " heh man the middle bus board is upside down " would have been nice , Also i am not the kind of type to fix it myself , i need to ship them out .
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck. What a bell end!
@smartassrecords
6 жыл бұрын
Yes , it is ultimately my fault ,sort of , and it kinda of put me off the euro rack thing for awhile , but i licked my wounds and all is right with the world . ha ha ha
@johnhorrobin8560
6 жыл бұрын
Mylarmelodies Cheers Alex . Would you have done this vid if you hadn't made the error. ?? There are thousands of tutorial videos but hardly any about the most important step which you have just highlighted . Thanks John Horrobin in Lincolnshire but originally from Leeds
@mylarmelodies
6 жыл бұрын
No, I believe this is called making lemonade...! May it perhaps save a few modules.
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