Are you looking to get into Zwift racing? Let us know! 👇
@frederikwurtz1537
4 жыл бұрын
Global Cycling Network i already am... it’s great training when the weather is grim!
@tomdewsbury9456
4 жыл бұрын
Yes if I can work out what to do to get to the start .. computer illiterate lol
@noet5329
4 жыл бұрын
I just get into group rides.. Everyone treats them like races anyways 😄
@petinka721
4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice with a competition GCN Zwift Championship there you can ride with all the presenters! Okay I would lost but it would be fun!
@dumbbellenjoyer
4 жыл бұрын
So basically, I can use performance enhancing drugs and dominate the competition finally?
@HoldenAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a part 2 that includes more about the tactics, when to use power ups, and other “tricks.” How about interviewing a few of the racing teams and community teams?
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@jimpeyton1459
4 жыл бұрын
Team TFC would be happy to help
@yap7656
4 жыл бұрын
I thought that's what gonna hold part 1 Silly me😂
@LaurentGoderre
4 жыл бұрын
"You can pick another category down, it's no big deal" I'm not sure the majority of Zwift racers would agree. There's a lot of chatter about "sandbaggers".
@julesberrry
4 жыл бұрын
Yes that was horrible advice.
@kakihara111
4 жыл бұрын
I think they were talking about beginners who want to try it and have no ftp set and have choosen a category too high. But yeah not the best advice
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
I would hope the matchmaking would automatically put you into the appropriate category based on your FTP and average wattage in a race. Sounds like there is a problem with sandbagging and seal clubbing.
@yap7656
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 very good idea
@ebayfield
4 жыл бұрын
My favourite way to race. Cheaper, quicker, safer and available all year round any time you get the urge. Segment times on Strava look impressive too.
@Daniel-ng8fi
4 жыл бұрын
kudos on mentioning zwiftpower, shame zwift themselves won't get rid of all the sandbagging knobs
@TamzinVokes
4 жыл бұрын
You should talk to Connor about sandbagging. I'm at the lower end of cat B and thought twice about signing up for a race when I saw his name down. I can't compete with that!
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
Haha! We'll have a word
@IraklyShanidze00X
4 жыл бұрын
yes, you can totally compete with that, it's just that the victory is an extremely remote possibility. However, there is still a possibility, like when Connor has a mechanical, or forgets to eat his gel 40 minutes into the race :D
@tquindt1
4 жыл бұрын
See the old GCN video that Dan, Si, and Matt made a few years ago about top 10 devious ways to beat your mates. I'm sure a few of those would work on Connor.
@gdevansh
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in Hong Kong, don't have school for another 2 months basically due to the Coronavirus situation. So I'm gonna be getting an indoor trainer to make good use of this time. Thanks for this video, maybe i’ll hop on Zwift for some racing
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! A good way to make the best of a tough situation, thanks for commenting Devansh!
@julesberrry
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Olympics will take place on Zwift this year!
@gdevansh
4 жыл бұрын
Global Cycling Network Thanks for the reply. I never expected for you to reply. i just ordered my trainer.
@gdevansh
4 жыл бұрын
Julia Hargreaves I think that is quite unlikely.
@MegaAndroyd
4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the Grand Theft Auto version.
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@Ed.R
4 жыл бұрын
Already available, check out this video kzitem.info/news/bejne/ymuJvo2NiId3oIo
@stewarthinsley6995
4 жыл бұрын
Summer is nearly here so once winter sets back in at the end of this year, a smart trainer is definitely on the cards to keep the fitness up.
@kakihara111
4 жыл бұрын
Zwift racing in A is absolutely brutal. Im 185cm and about 82 or 83 kg heavy and I loose all the time to smaller and lighter riders. Short, hard climbs are really mean. Only won 2 races yet: my first crit city and a Zwift academy tt race.
@daviddanser8011
4 жыл бұрын
I am light and cant compete on the flats
@kevin._.farren
4 жыл бұрын
Is that a mustache being born?!
@sevenrats
3 жыл бұрын
I race instead of workouts. I race about 3 days a week on Zwift. The best thing about it is that if I am rested and feel good I can hammer. If I get on there and feel like crap then I can just back off and ride it a hard/moderate pace group ride. I'll just drift back and find group to ride with. It's not like you pay an entry fee and it's real world. You can use the race anyway you want.
@AaronGoodTimes
4 жыл бұрын
Zwift is supposedly changing how the category system works soon in a short term fix that will see categories enforced, followed by a long term change to a points based category system. Also, almost every climb is a soul crushing sprint.
@troutjunkie7330
4 жыл бұрын
I sure hope so. too many A riders on our D races
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of multiplayer games have rating systems based on how well you play, which generally matches you to opponents of comparable skill, should be easy to implement in Zwift when you can easily rate a rider based on their FTP, HR and average watts.
@daviddanser8011
4 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing, and needed
@davethedogdude
4 жыл бұрын
Got on Zwift today. Joined a Crit that was going to start in less then a minute, so I'm way at the back, and not really warmed up at all. And Zwift stuck me on a mountain bike instead of my Tron bike bike for [I have no freaking idea] reason. Before I could even think about changing bikes, the race goes off and I get dropped off the back in 10 seconds LOL. That was fun. Zwift kept putting me on the mountain bike today every time I logged in even though I changed bikes, it has something out for me.
@yap7656
4 жыл бұрын
Did you signed for the Scott climb challenge?
@davethedogdude
4 жыл бұрын
@@yap7656 no... the only thing I can think of is that I tried out the steering course which temporarily sticks you on a MTB. But it goes back to your normal bike when done. But maybe since it is a "special world" like crit city somehow that bike carried over?
@julesberrry
4 жыл бұрын
The categories for mixed races usually have 2 criteria both of which need to be fulfilled - a W/kg and a W. For example, B cat is 3.2W/kg and 200W. This means that average sized women can have W/kg way over 3.2 and still be in C cat for mixed races. But they will be in B for women’s races as for women-only races they just use the W/kg. Many women are categorised lower for the mixed races. Would have been nice if you had explained this as it is quite hard to find the info - embedded in zwiftpower’s faqs...
@daviddanser8011
4 жыл бұрын
Half the riders are in the wrong category on Zwift. And the tip that you can always go a category down is misleading. If people keep doing this racing will never get fixed. You probably only need to go a category down because of all the sandbaggers, it is a vicious circle. Zwiftpower is great, but it should be integrated. People please start in your own category, not a category down.
@Choedron
4 жыл бұрын
Did not know there were TT races events. Got to look into that.
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
Our winter is winding down so should have a lot more ridable days real soon, but I am seriously considering a Zwift setup for next winter
@benanderson9551
3 жыл бұрын
Would love a cross city race where you can take shortcuts through alleys but you have to surge your power out of twists and turns, or add in a mario kart style
@Lecyclistebelge
4 жыл бұрын
LOL ! My name is in this video xD 06:02
@LeZinZin95
4 жыл бұрын
Tu pèses dans le milieu du cyclisme mon gars!
@markp.7345
4 жыл бұрын
Le début de la gloire!
@Lecyclistebelge
4 жыл бұрын
@@LeZinZin95 merci merci 🙏🙏
@timvandenacker4977
4 жыл бұрын
Does Manon really pushes around 240W at 97bpm?! Absolute machine!
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
she's strong for sure!
@tquindt1
4 жыл бұрын
She really puts the boys to shame. Well done Manon.
@tquindt1
4 жыл бұрын
Cycling is one sport where the women can compete with the men on a level playing field, if not a level paying field. (Case in point, who was taking the Michelton Scott boys to school?)
@flyingchimp12
2 жыл бұрын
@@tquindt1 women cannot compete with men on a level playing field in cycling... LOL. At least not at the elite level
@gitri7467
4 жыл бұрын
HOW TO RACE ON ZWIFT? First and foremost, set your weight between 10-30KG for you to have ANYYYYYYY REMOTE chance of winning anything. 31KG and above you're automatically racing for 2nd.
@jimpeyton1459
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh the cynic
@museves
4 жыл бұрын
D is for 5w/kg too
@melbournecyclingsegments7510
4 жыл бұрын
You also need a green screen for a proper zwift race 📽️🎥
@stuburchett
4 жыл бұрын
Hank hasn’t shaved his top lip for about 4 months by the looks of it.
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually been 4 years.
@jimjamesi1598
9 ай бұрын
I don't have a smart phone or laptop .I have a desktop.but it is not where my bike will be. How can I get on Zwift? Please help
@RhumRunner41
3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for category E or even F before I’d think about entering.
@MrLootshoot
3 жыл бұрын
Joined Swift 3 days ago, totally confused, not finding it intuitive whatsoever. I've not got a bike so am using my spin bike with the relevant sensors and heart monitor, am I a lower class citizen because I cannot afford a smart trainer? BTW I'm 52 and fat just trying to get fit again.
@miker5624
4 жыл бұрын
Is it better to use flat bars or drop bars? There's no wind indoors so are the drop bars still better?
@stovetop6140
4 жыл бұрын
I tried a couple of D races and just couldn't hang with the insanely fast starts! I was gassed before things started to calm down somewhat. I stick to the TT's now and just worry about the clock. Better for my psyche!
@careymahoney1605
4 жыл бұрын
Tfiwz is Zwift backwards... just saying You're welcome...
@chinboy66
4 жыл бұрын
How do you stop people from cheating?
@cameronwyant9015
4 жыл бұрын
Remember they are talking about kilograms @ 1:29
@AwesomeLegoman1000
3 жыл бұрын
How do you watch races on zwift? I've not seen that option.
@mathieusoucy7904
3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. You choose your category? I assume the level of rider must be messed up for B to D groups. I thought it was a matchmaking system based on your stats. I was considering it but I think I'll pass.
@Pottedmeat66
4 жыл бұрын
Do you need a power meter and heart rate monitor for the CAT D races? It's quite a large investment when I'm already buying the kickr core at £700.
@wolfeb99
4 жыл бұрын
was Hank drinking cocoa before he recorded this?
@tquindt1
4 жыл бұрын
Lloyd's cooler only had enough beer for him.
@Maingoal1973
4 жыл бұрын
On some of the races there is a “Lead in” does this count as part of the race I’m confused.
@CowneloAlvaroid
3 жыл бұрын
I keep signing up for races on my phone, jump on Zwift and I WONT LET ME ENTER A RACE! PLZ HELP
@alexflorance1111
4 жыл бұрын
Im a student who has an old felt f95 and really want to get into cycling properly. It’s in need of about £200 worth of maintenance which is probably more than it’s worth in its current state, so I want to buy a Canyon endurace, and use zwift in the winter. How on earth do I afford both?
@darthgrima6341
4 жыл бұрын
I race in categorie D against people who race in 4 or above per kilo
@BiciHater
4 жыл бұрын
It would be great to power your house from your indoor bike 🔌⚡⚡⚡🚴♂️
@dailydoseoffunny5243
4 жыл бұрын
I’m 8 and training so a can finally not be crushed
@seanwarren9357
3 жыл бұрын
It's no big deal... Looks at the camera cheekily. XD Yeah okay Grandma LOL I think this would be cool and we are with a way to add incline Maybe and decline for feedback and with a fan that's variable speed based on simulator outputs but I don't know as is it just seems a little just okay which is unfortunate because it's a genius idea especially for someone like me who is a truck driver and could really use safe exercise.
@simongudgeon2113
3 жыл бұрын
Try not to laugh I beg you, but I was on the RUNNING app earlier, I thought I had entered a C class race, but I wasn’t taken to the race start screen, & not for the want of looking all day long, I cannot seem to see how I start a running race ?? I can enter, but when the time comes I cannot get to the start position ... just counts down to the start and I stand there like a spare prick at a wedding. I am really struggling to download Zwift companion, and I’m not sure if I do or don’t need it, is this the problem ? Any help is appreciated
@mattcaius1612
4 жыл бұрын
Can someone make a VR version of this holy
@streetmtb
4 жыл бұрын
Thought first thing to do in zwift racing is to lower your weight in your profile... yeah I don't bother racing because zwift allow cheaters.
@NickTheGreek15
4 жыл бұрын
What is Hanks tache all about?
@krankedteamcls
4 жыл бұрын
Adds like 500 watts for sprints.
@Totalavulsion
4 жыл бұрын
We gonna discuss weight doping???
@123xpgame
4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Greg Doucette brought me here
@chrisoliver6690
4 жыл бұрын
First race today, went for cat C my FPT is at the top of the cat C rating. I went hard and finished near the back. I feel like there may be cheating going on.....?
@ditani2
4 жыл бұрын
thats why you should check the results on zwiftpower (and create an account) --> people with too high wkg for the enlisted category will be removed from the results.
@denisspratt926
4 жыл бұрын
Personally i don't care. I'd ratter go outside cycling.
@Paganiproductions84
4 жыл бұрын
i don´t like cycling inside to boring
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
Hard to ride with 6 inches of snow on the ground
@zmontalto05
4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s comical that they stated you should go to Zwift Power for results, because the actually zwift results are rubbish. Doping on Zwift is more prevalent that in the pro peloton. It’s ridiculous
@julianbailey2749
4 жыл бұрын
The point of ZwiftPower is that it filters out the category dopers. For example I recently was in a cat C race and the zwift results had me in 14th (out of 66). On ZwiftPower I was rated as 3rd as the effective Cat B and A racers are filtered out of their results set.
@zmontalto05
4 жыл бұрын
Julian Bailey, I completely understand why Zwift Power exists, but my point is it shouldn’t have to exist. People should enter into the correct category and zwift should be better at monitoring. The Cat A and B racers in your race probably effected the outcome, and you shouldn’t have come in 14th, you should have came in 3rd so why do you have to go into another site to find that out.
@IraklyShanidze00X
4 жыл бұрын
There is still a frustrating hardware-software problem with Zwift racing, at least on my Saris Hammer trainer. If there is a flat after sprinting on a short climb, it is not possible to engage the freewheel even on the lowest gear. One can argue that my cadence is too low, but if 130 is too low, what isn't? Another thing closely related to this is the inability to use breaks in tactical situations. Of course, hitting "A" on a keyboard is an option, but it brings up a pairing screen obscuring the view. Grrrr.
@tiiimmmaaayyyy3616
4 жыл бұрын
Set the trainer difficulty to around 50% and you should feel more pressure on the pedals going downhill as it cut's the slope feel on the way down as well as up. You still have to put the watts out but the feel is different.
@IraklyShanidze00X
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Butler I tried everything from 0 to 100%
@careymahoney1605
4 жыл бұрын
D is also for 3-5 W/kg riders who want to win but would never be able to so in A or B..
@JMcLeodKC711
4 жыл бұрын
What is my best option if I want to ride rollers?
@jimpeyton1459
4 жыл бұрын
Rollers with a power meter will allow you to ride "officially" in races. That and a heart rate monitor. You do lose the interactive component a turbo brings.
@Pastamistic
4 жыл бұрын
I used rollers with a speed sensor for a while. The power estimate was really inaccurate, they more than likely don't have your exact model roller. If they don't have your specific model than Zwift's power estimate will most likely be wrong. If you have a power meter and your rollers can supply enough resistance it's a good experience.
@chalkus
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, racing isn't really open to lower 'category' riders... Faster and fitter people always enter category D and destroy the genuine category D riders.
@paomillo5680
4 жыл бұрын
Could yo do a giveaway of a turbo trainer pleasee
@jeffpedals
4 жыл бұрын
So where is this ride in California world on zwift.....I live in the states & I don't get no California world on zwift. is this just for Europe zwifters or somethin?
@wbaareshit1981
4 жыл бұрын
There's not it's a challenge to ride length of california to get a bike.
@Lacking_something
4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to try it... Can you earn bonus xp points or sweat droplets (whatever they're called) by taking part?
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
You can indeed race to gain bonus points, the higher average speed of racing in a group means you can pick them up more quickly!
@sonderfall1979
4 жыл бұрын
You don't need friends... is that where the whole world is headed?
@MarcoP70
4 жыл бұрын
Hank didn't wash his face properly, bit of "dirt" on his top lip??
@Northwindbreeze
4 жыл бұрын
I am 1,53cm tall and weight 56kg, been cycling for 10 years + do I stand a chance?
@LeZinZin95
4 жыл бұрын
If you never try, you never know.
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
Give it a go and see if you like it!
@Northwindbreeze
4 жыл бұрын
Ok I will open an account of the tag name ´quintana´ ;)
@jasonmcgrody9472
4 жыл бұрын
Zwift racing is really about you challenging yourself. You'll stand a chance if you're willing to leave it all out there in the race course.
@Totalavulsion
4 жыл бұрын
What’s the risk?
@keyboardcowboy666
4 жыл бұрын
What’s your accounts on Zwift? I want to follow and chase you 🚴🏻
@leewood8118
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t lose any friends? I have lost a few from the cycling club for doing this 🤣🤦♂️
@chinboy66
4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing trying to race @ 94kg will be like competing on a penny farthing
@julianbailey2749
4 жыл бұрын
Actually you are wrong. Due to the fixed power to weight categories, heavier riders have an easier time of it than light weights. You put out a lot more power on the flat yet have the same power to weight on the climbs. Category winners who are not cheating tend to be in the 90kg + range.
@amininazlan955
4 жыл бұрын
Wow im early
@VisualRituals
3 жыл бұрын
Manon Llyod just said "if you get dropped...you should select the category down" which is basically a defense of sandbagging / cheating in the context of what was said earlier in the video about ftp categories. Just because you got dropped doesn't mean you should cheat and lower your race category - it means you're not a winner today! GCN should remove this video because the script is sloppy and the cast accidentally advocated for cheating.
@VisualRituals
2 жыл бұрын
@Free T oh! So "maybe" cheat is your response. As if "maybe" makes that acceptable. And then you defend it by saying that beginners are exempt when you're actually advocating for beginners to pick up bad habits. You actually aren't disagreeing you're just offering weak excuses for bad behavior without claiming the behavior as good. That's an odd defense of what you know to be wrong.
@VisualRituals
2 жыл бұрын
@Free T Omfg it literally IS cheating if you use a race to discover your ftp instead of using an ftp test in order to sort yourself properly into a race category. You have this odd exemption theory for beginners as if anything a beginner does to disrupt an established race culture is acceptable because they are learning...that's ridiculous. The whole point of a good GCN video is to help us think clearly about how to integrate into the sport of cycling in ethical and meaningful ways. All of your comments so far literally provide cover for either bad behavior or ignorant mistakes - either way -YOU'RE WRONG
@rrosomasa
4 жыл бұрын
wow, GCN does user manuals now, LOL!!!!
@jonathanzappala
4 жыл бұрын
Breakaways in Zwift? Not really.
@tomdewsbury9456
4 жыл бұрын
How do I start the race .. I’ve tried meeting up with mate but fail in this as don’t k ow what to press
@streetmtb
4 жыл бұрын
You have to join the same map what the event is on then hit ride, once your in you will see a join button bottom left
@shkoddi
4 жыл бұрын
u can see join button from antoher map also.
@Ed.R
4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't race on it unless I knew cheating had been eradicated and I know for sure this will never happen.
@troutjunkie7330
4 жыл бұрын
Hard to cheat on it. If you modify your trainer, your FTP will climb and place you in higher category, making it harder to win still. If you reach the top, now you'll have to have a trainer calibrated with power meters, which would expose you as a cheater. Pointless.
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
If I recall the 2019 British Zwift racing champion was DQd and actually fined and suspended by British cycling for using an ANT+ simulator to obtain the bike he used in the championship.
@Ed.R
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 That was the crude way to do it. ANT+ signals can be intercepted and modified just slightly. Either your own or someone else's and it's undetectable.
@Ed.R
4 жыл бұрын
@@troutjunkie7330 To be honest at that level it is difficult but not impossible to cheat undetected.
@troutjunkie7330
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 It was stupid cause he's really top guy and does races in public on supplied trainer and still wins. No way to cheat other than drugs. But he wanted Tron bike. He's coming back soon.
@nicolas1999444
4 жыл бұрын
TELL ELITE TO FIX ERG MODE ON THEIR USELESS AND OVERPRICED TRAINERS BEFORE THEY SPEND MONEY ADVERTISING ON GCN VIDEOS!!!
@vdiesel9944
4 жыл бұрын
That "close the gap" message is very annoying. Popping up all the time.
@GrouEEf
4 жыл бұрын
Then maybe, just maybe... Just close the f ing gap! Or take turns on the front.
@vdiesel9944
4 жыл бұрын
GrouEEf well, its popping up when I do an endurance ride too. I saw the message 487 times on an easy one hour ride. In a race its not that easy doing what you said. The message is there whatever you do. Would be nice if zwift let us have the choice to not see it.
@shkoddi
4 жыл бұрын
@@vdiesel9944 On endurance rides you can watch serials, youtube, etc. Just minimize the Zwift application :)
@vronijackl3136
4 жыл бұрын
Ssssssswift
@TheMrmrdno
4 жыл бұрын
super for no life racers
@stefangerig5405
4 жыл бұрын
Really, again and again the same topics? Is there something new or is recycling the new way to go?
@markgueren9633
4 жыл бұрын
Step one: go outside. Step two: ride your bike... I really don’t get this topic at all.. I love to ride my bike... not play video games... just my opinion..
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
Some of us live in places that get bad winters. This can be a great way to train over the winter
@markgueren9633
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 oh I certainly get it..I live in New York. and i ride all year long outside. i do supliment my outside riding with trainer rides. but there are days when its 50 degrees and people would rather do Zwift rides... that ill never understand.....
@climax1233
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, how is it working with the Power? Is the Powermeter integrated in the Elite Suito or do I have to get a Powermeter on my Bike?
@gcn
4 жыл бұрын
If you're riding on a smart trainer with a built in power meter you can use this! If you have a power meter on your bike this will also work.
@ryantaylor841
4 жыл бұрын
I did my first avage speed 14mph yesterday. Am so happy with myself
@Totalavulsion
4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Although average speeds don’t really mean anything unless they’re getting faster over a set course in the same conditions
@ryantaylor841
4 жыл бұрын
@@Totalavulsion I am with a group tho also it is the same route I always take
@ryantaylor841
4 жыл бұрын
And same conditions
@parthkhaladkar9017
4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! And don’t get the tron bike
@RobHawthorn
2 жыл бұрын
When signing up for a race, how do you actually join it? When signing up for a workout, an icon 'Join' appears a few minutes before the start but no such icon pops up for races...We can see the countdown in the event list.
@tquindt1
4 жыл бұрын
I still think Manon can beat James on a penny farthing, but I don't see that coming to Zwift anytime soon.
@MK2108
4 жыл бұрын
Please do a full video on tactics - either on the road or zwift. Or a bike cleaning video.
@RESolberg
4 жыл бұрын
Help... What kind of computer and accessories do you need to get set up on Zwift? #askgcn
@John-iq4jd
4 жыл бұрын
Randy Solberg GPLama has a budget setup video that works really well.
@kiowa21
4 жыл бұрын
@Randy Solberg Hi, I use nothing more than an old android smart phone, a wireless battery charger for the smart phone and an old tele with a cable to link the two. I have the zwift app on the phone and that talks to the smart trainer and heart rate strap. The phone then sits on the wireless charger as the phone battery doesn't last long. Then I use a usb-c to HDMI cable plugged in to the phone and in to the television and away I go. The app displays on the tele in full screen, full graphics, full control and full features.
@9034833838
4 жыл бұрын
Category A is 4W/kg for 20 minutes. Really just a made for rich dentists virtual world we have here.
@Daniel-ng8fi
4 жыл бұрын
lol, I can't tell if this is a joke, or just really dumb
@9034833838
4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-ng8fi are you a dentist?
@Daniel-ng8fi
4 жыл бұрын
@@9034833838 yes, but I'm really poor :(
@mrvwbug4423
4 жыл бұрын
You can do Zwift with a smartphone, cheap second hand road bike, and second hand turbo trainer.
@9034833838
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 Did you forget abut 9.99/month? Streets are free brother.
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