Excellent and proper step-by-step method for this basic maintenance job. It's a really good idea to inspect and blow out any debris inside the well after pulling the SP wires and BEFORE removing the plug!
@HumbleMechanic
6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Keep the yuck out
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
I'm watching just to watch lol, probably done it 20 times
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Blake Jr. LOL, right on man!
@fredcabs1815
6 жыл бұрын
Great thanks . if you don't have a torque wrench , there's always a good rule of thumb : flat seat 1/4 round after hand torque , cone seat 1/8 round.
@rhkips
8 жыл бұрын
I miss my plastic VR6 spark plug tool... Don't know where it went! A little tip with that tool though: When you're installing the plug wires, wiggle the plug wire down over the plug, then turn the tool around and use the "handle" end of it against the plug wire. The plastic is thicker on that end, with a narrower profile and a tapered edge, so it doesn't spread over the plug wire end. :D
@Tostereue
8 жыл бұрын
VR6
@mhborsuk
8 жыл бұрын
Hey! When torqueing the spark plugs I always hold/support the head of the torque wrench so it does not bend. When You put the pressure (torque) only on the end of the wrench it creates a lever that is not only twisting but also bending. I learned it the hard way when one of the spark plugs cracked because of that. I hope it's clear... English is not my native language. :)
@nestrac
8 жыл бұрын
And the old plug looked just like those you pulled from your engine.... So happy man and happy engine
@grizzlydan8
8 жыл бұрын
+Marcin Borsuk + Your written English is excellent. You are not only clear, you are correct about holding the torque wrench.
@femmefataleracer
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, not sure how to ask you questions. Was thinking of doing a egr delete on my mkiv vr6 24v gti....thoughts?
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+femmefataleracer your GTI does not have EGR.
@femmefataleracer
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic then I hav a terrible problem...Uhm thanx 👍🏼😡
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+femmefataleracer at least in the US it doesn't. You are not talking about secondary air injection are you?
@BabyG112
7 жыл бұрын
im currently doing my spark plugs on my 97 gti vr6 which way do you twist for the wire to come out?
@meloche1syndrome
8 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a vr6. 2000 black, sunroof, monsoon. pen on paper and I backed out and I've regretted it ever since.
@RzVids
5 жыл бұрын
Wow that a lot of turns after finger tight with the torque wrench.. My plugs have a crush washer on them and all the mechanics I asked told me just do a 1/16 to 1/4 a turn after finger tight. Did I under tightened my plugs? The spec is 14 ft lbs.
@treysomeone6122
6 жыл бұрын
That was good 👍🏼 thank you that helped me I liked and subscribed
@nickolastiguan
8 жыл бұрын
hi Charles, do you usually use dielectric grease when you change spark plugs, at home or at work? and do i need "vw approved" dielectric grease? lol. thanks.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+nickolastiguan good questions. I only use dielectric when I do plugs on a car with wires. Not coil on plug. I am sure VW has that, but no need to worry. You should be good with any brand!
@nickolastiguan
8 жыл бұрын
HumbleMechanic good tip, thanks! 2011 Tiguan has coil on plug right?
@sleepyancient6655
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. While I prefer to avoid anti-seize on spark plugs I do use a bit of engine oil on the threads.
@obesechipmunk91
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic Great guide. Was wondering what you sprayed into the cylinder heads before removing the old plugs? And if you recommend any kind of cleaning solutions for the threads inside the cylinder head? I'm about to install spark plugs for the first time ever on a 16 year old Celica GT. I want to make sure I'm prepared when I get down to business!
@79DJB
8 жыл бұрын
so easy. Charles have you ever done the plugs on a CoP ej subaru? it's nearly a 1hr task. ez's are even worse.
@jamram9924
8 жыл бұрын
NGK wires👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻why not use anti-seize on the spark plug threads
@jamram9924
8 жыл бұрын
Ahh!!! I heard that you prefer not to use anti-seize🤔🤔🤔
@jamram9924
8 жыл бұрын
I've had two experiences where the spark plug was removed, Iridium spark plugs at 105,000 miles. Mechanic/technician removed spark plug, engine cool and threads came right out on a Lexus GS-450(?). Factory installed since this was first set since vehicle was purchased.... after experiencing this twice...anti-seize. Many bigger shops and dealers won't because time/money.
@ChrisinOSMS
7 жыл бұрын
If one uses anti-seize then the wet torque value needs to be used.
@jamram9924
7 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between "wet" and "dry " specifications? Is the difference notable? Where do manufacturers place/state/ depict the "wet" torque specifications?
@ChrisinOSMS
7 жыл бұрын
Using a lubricant on threads reduces the friction between the mating surfaces therefore requiring less effort to reach full engagement. I was introduced to this concept working on a blown head gasket, quickly followed by a bonus lesson on removing a broken bolt from an engine block, good times... Anyway, loctight estimates about a 20% difference between wet/dry torque values but it will depend on the lubricity of the particular anti-seize one uses. Link here for details -- www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiToPn9597RAhWIwiYKHWJkDT0QFggZMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycleworld.com%2F2014%2F07%2F25%2Fask-kevin-if-i-lubricate-threads-or-use-a-threadlocker-should-i-reduce-the-tightening-torque&usg=AFQjCNHfM06NhGSYM9PUGlMo2C6GkPqbxw Enjoy!
@CarswithNash
7 жыл бұрын
I like to put a single drop of 3n'1 oil on the threads of the new plug before I put it in.
@TrueStrongNorth
6 ай бұрын
What are the best plugs for a an old obd 1 12v VR6?
+HumbleMechanic Hi. could you sametime talk about Audi . i have vw golf mk4 which i had for about 9-10years and still have one . is many differences in audi and vw in terms of failures? and anther question? i know that VW makes cars in America. are they alike or similar to them made in Germany?
@MasterofPlay7
8 жыл бұрын
what if you have some oil in one of the the spark plug charmer when you get them out
@Philzila702
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I'm excited to try this on my GLi on Thursday 😃
@Mrfurballs
Жыл бұрын
i accidentally ran the wrong NGK spark plugs on my 2001 VR6 gti , I bought the two prong NGKR though , about to install them this weekend .
@dozza202
8 жыл бұрын
Think that's difficult? Most v6 fwd you have to pull the intake manifold off
@dozza202
8 жыл бұрын
Magna v6, Toyota Aurion, commodore v6(rwd)
@KRAUSER0130
8 жыл бұрын
What does GTI stands for? I never had idea what those VW abbreviations meant.. Audi too, TFSI, what??
@SunilK-cs1tp
7 жыл бұрын
Grand touring injection I believe
@JordanGlad
6 жыл бұрын
you never showed use of the dielectric grease
@CharlesReiche
8 жыл бұрын
I replaced mine @80k and am now @172k on my 07 rabbit and afraid to try to remove them. I did use anti seize, but still might soak some PB blaster overnight.
@fordwindsor351
8 жыл бұрын
Anti seize isn't really needed, just about every plug is made with a coating already on them.
@thedubdoctor
8 жыл бұрын
Garuntee your plugs will come right out no problem . Try it out
@fordwindsor351
8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Shores they do without using anti seize.
@thedubdoctor
8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Shores there is no need for anti seeze on plugs... They will come right out with no issues I promise you
@denis_vr6
8 жыл бұрын
i need the tool for the wires
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Denis VR6 amzn.to/1VNBbpD This is the one that is basically the OEM tool. amzn.to/1q5aCP1 is an aftermarket tool, but it gets great reviews. I have never used it, but the reviews are perfect
@kotalarsen95531
8 жыл бұрын
took me 3.5 hours to change the plugs on my 2005 kia sedona. a 400 dollar job.
@thejdogproject7492
8 жыл бұрын
question I have a 1992 ford f150 and I want to change the spark plugsbut every time I remove a bolt it breaks how can i prevent a spark plug from braking.
@TheStpeteboy
8 жыл бұрын
what kind of ratchet is that?
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Yod S The ratchet is part of my Sonic Tools kit. You can check out a walkthrough I did on it here ~ Sonic Tools S10 Toolbox Tour
@meloche1syndrome
8 жыл бұрын
first! lol
@wizkid22
8 жыл бұрын
Do one in a subaru lol
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Matchett hahaha. Immediately after finishing the shoot, I thought of that.
@wizkid22
8 жыл бұрын
video would have been 3x times longer.
@Ajicles
8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Matchett N/A or turbo? lol...
@mikem8904
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic with all due respect, Any Subaru is far easier to maintain or rebuild than at least 90% of all other cars, I say this with 6 years Subaru dealer exp. I'm much happier now/ better off working strictly European.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Mike M That is good to know! Are you making more as a Euro tech, or do you just like the pain? HAHAHA
@honchoryanc
8 жыл бұрын
I was taught to hand thread spark plugs with a small hose attached to the end for the perfect hand thread.
@xephael3485
6 жыл бұрын
Always use anti-seize... copper, aluminum or nickle depending upon block. Just a small amount. NGK started the myth with a TB on how you could over "tighten" a plug and their product didn't need it because they were nickel/zinc plated already. Manufactures are no better and could give a rip about spark plug removal (ie. Ford Triton)
@Wisconsin4eyes
6 жыл бұрын
What size socket do I need for the spark plug? On this particular 12v vr6
@Msleelee9487
5 жыл бұрын
I will have to torque spark plugs for a 2010 Hyundai Tucson I asked the guy at the parts place at the dealership if he could find out what number I would use for my car and he sold me the plugs and told me to just hand tighten them I knew better what a jerk anyway I do have a new torque wrench but never used it I will have to find a video for that anyway I cleaned the engine just waiting on the ignition coils . Thanks for the video
@haywire17
8 жыл бұрын
Charles, I keep a short length of stiff 3/8" ID Fuel line handy when replacing plugs. As soon as I break the threads loose, I shove the hose (which is stiff) over the plug porcelain , and spin it out by hand. The hose holds tight and lifts the plug out without dropping it better than a spark plug socket. Also when installing new ones, the hose flexes enough to really allow you to start the new plug easily in awkward spaces, and won't allow you to cross-thread them, since the hose will slip on the porcelain before that can happen. I just wing it in there by hand, rotating the hose until it bottoms, final torque with wrench. Done.
@olenaerhardt7725
4 жыл бұрын
What is the proper way to remove oil from the spark plug well? My valve gasket was broken and some oil accumulated in the wells. In one film they said you can't remove those spark plugs since the oil will go somewhere where it is not supposed to be.
@HumbleMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
Yea. I clean all the oil out first. An extractor works best. But towels to absorb the oil works okay
@olenaerhardt7725
4 жыл бұрын
@@HumbleMechanic Thank you so much for the quick response. That question keeps me from proceeding on the project with the valve cover gasket replacement, because I wanted to look on the condition of the spark plugs as well. I have one fluid extractor LX-1386, but it is mostly for brake fluid, and though it says on the box for Gear Oil from Master Cylinders, but I'm afraid it won't work on those small wells, especially with that spark plug in it. There is no needle attachment coming with that syringe, just a pipe of 9 mm for outer diameter. Actually I made one attachment of the smaller diameter now from the small magnetic pickup, it fitted the pipe in the syringe, will try tomorrow, but still, Sir, may I ask you, what particular extractor do you use? And another question I have. I washed the valve cover lid till the spotless condition, sprayed with the WD-40, cleaned lightly with the shop paper towel. Can I put the new gasket on it, or it is better to go over the surface which will be in contact with the gasket with something like acetone, so it will be clean from oil?
@zd141
3 жыл бұрын
OE VW plugs are NGK plugs...Rather buy the NGK plugs from a parts store for cheaper...Just find the NGK part number online...or look on the plug itself
@HumbleMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
Always make 100% you're getting the right deal, and Im good with that. :)
@HumbleMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I meant by the right deal. The proper plug.
@zd141
3 жыл бұрын
@@HumbleMechanic I see.Are OE plugs generally cheaper than the exact same NGK plugs from a parts store where you at?
@Mrfurballs
Жыл бұрын
part number BKR5EIX for spark plugs for VR6 engine OEM ones .
@argonaut119
2 жыл бұрын
Your link to OEM Style plug wire tool goes to a Page Not Found error. Can you let us know which OEM style plug wire tool you are talking about. Thanks
@greggeis918
6 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend anti seize? I’ve always been told to use it when installing for future removal ease but I could see it would technically change your torque spec vs a dry plug.
@HumbleMechanic
6 жыл бұрын
I never use it on spark plugs. Some people swear by it.
@chellef1427
2 жыл бұрын
When you're here and watching with no business attempting to change spark plugs 🙈😅
@Beemer889
8 жыл бұрын
OEM only! Haha I don't know how many cars I've had come back with a misfire because the customer wanted cheap auto lights.
@mikem8904
8 жыл бұрын
all day...even with delcos, densos, and such
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Beemer889 seen it a million times. I always feel bad for people when it happens.
@Mrfurballs
Жыл бұрын
very true , you get what you pay for lol , NGK spark plugs work great on these MK4 .
@SDSBBQs
8 жыл бұрын
Bit I have a Tdi... I can't find them.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+SDSBBQ HAHAH, keep looking. Or maybe VW should add them I mean with dieselgate and everything
@SDSBBQs
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic Thanks for having a sense of humor. Thanks Charles for sharing.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+SDSBBQ LOL, man this is biz (both automotive and YT) you have to have a sense of humor. People can loose their mind in a minute.
@SDSBBQs
8 жыл бұрын
HumbleMechanic Totally understand...
@slscamg
8 жыл бұрын
I just came here to say this! As much as I looked I just couldn't find mine ☺
@streetmetl1
8 жыл бұрын
What are your feelings on use of a little anti seize on threads and electric grease on the top of the plugs??
@Beemer889
8 жыл бұрын
My .02 cents, always anti seize, I normally don't put dielectric grease just because once it dries it makes it a b.... To get the boot off. The grease mainly aids in installing the boot.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Diego Bolt i usually use grease, but almost never use Anti Seize
@fordwindsor351
8 жыл бұрын
I never use anti seize and never will. Just about every plug manufacturer has a coating that works like anti seize. Some myths die hard.
@streetmetl1
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic thanks for a reply much appreciated.
@TechNostalgiaNL
4 жыл бұрын
What is the correct spark plug position on a golf mk 7 1.4 tsi? Meaning, which way should the ignition coil point?
@FGuilt
8 жыл бұрын
how big a deal is a leaking valve cover gasket? Aside from lost oil and grody engine compartments, does it really matter?
@DAIMBRAN
8 жыл бұрын
Hi guys! I've tried to remove spark plugs using vw plastic tool with. I couldn't I don't know why. I'm a learner also I can't find any service manual on google. Does anybody know what kind of spark plugs do I need? And tool to replace oil filter, gas filter etc? I read vr6 is 10:1 so is just designed to use 95 or 98 octane gasoline, am I right? Thanks everybody
@devinsmith4151
8 жыл бұрын
Most cars that come into a dealer will have hot engines, under most cases, you don't get to choose to delay the job. I usually undo the plugs by hand after I crack it loose. If its difficult, its usually carbon buildup and the next set of plugs won't go in easy by hand. I've found it easy if you spray some brake cleaner on the new plug and try threading it in the hole by hand again a few times. It will go in easy, if not, take it out and blast with brake cleaner and try again. I never use anti-seize and never use dielectric grease. But I do a quick visual inspection of the HT leads and the coil. Some HT leads or coils may break off after removal. Especially the ones compromised by engine oil, quote valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals if its separate. A road test should be done after new plugs are fitted to check for misfires.
@marcinek9111
Жыл бұрын
Good and clear video Helped me to replace the old, tired and well worn and partly burned 7mm wires for brand new custom made new ones 8mm thick in my vr6 2.9 😎🤘🚗 Thanx mate
@ilike600baud
8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Let me tell ya more than you wanted to know about using torque wrenches... First, always exercise the torque wrench before use. To do this, set the torque wrench to it's highest setting, and make the torque wrench click, or indicate, the highest setting at least three times. This gets the torque wrench ready (or "warmed up", in a sense) to be more accurate and repeatable. Second, apply torque from the center of the handle, or grip, or if there's a line across the grip, or a notch, apply torque with your hand centered over that line or notch. Torque wrenches are designed to be used this way, because the force applied to different areas of the handle can influence the wrench's torque. Here's a link to CDI's torque wrench info, which says the same things, and more: www.cditorque.com/education.html#What Anyways, that's all from me. You know cars, and that's why I'm here :-) P.S. if you knew everything I said, and I just wasted your time, let me know so I can leave people alone in the future
@nestrac
8 жыл бұрын
My car had a misfire on the nr 1 Cylinder (straigth 4) that just got worse so I decided to change the sparkplugs ( they needed to be changed anyways ) I removed the plastic cover and found the problem... Water in the sparkplug well... easiest fix of a misfire ever.....
@mmrtcnn
8 жыл бұрын
i remember changing plugs on a 99's 2.0 8V vw engine, i forgot to put back the injector connector on the right side of the rail ( to reach the cables better and not break the connectors ), ran like crap and i rattled everywhere LOL.
@Msleelee9487
5 жыл бұрын
hit Humblemechanic so I changed the spark plugs and the coil ignition sensors because I had a cylinder 3 misfire and it died on the side of the road 2 wks ago the light came on before it was gonna die but I do remember the car running rough and I put gas treatment and it seemed ok but anyway I changed everything and it didn't start so hooked scanner it still said cylinder 3 mis fire and now it says camshaft sensor what the heck happened?
@jessicah3450
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you actually show down in the well, the others videos I've watched do not. I like to know what things should look like. I am confident that I can do this on my '09 GTI with coils. Thanks!
@michaelmendoza003
8 жыл бұрын
do you have any tips on intake manifold on a 2010 tiguan coz one of the flaps does not open and close properly thank's Mike
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Mendoza I did a DIY on replacing it with ShopDAP. a great video showing exactly what you need to do.
@michaelmendoza003
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic thank you coz its cousing my check engine light to light up.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Mendoza check with your local dealer too. Some of them had a warranty extension.
@jaskajokunen3716
6 жыл бұрын
If my spark plug is stuck should i try to remove them when engine is hot/warm and then wait to install new ones?
@konquer247
7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, I have been looking for this tuts for a very long time. I needed to change my spark plugs and wires on my vw b5.5 azm engine.
@Krillekris
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. You are so good at explaining things. I'm a real sucker for repair videos, and hope you will do some more of that. Greetings from Norway.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Krillekris right on!!!
@jackhogan2077
3 жыл бұрын
great also why should you open the door of the garage before starting your car up what could happen?
@josepantoja4397
5 жыл бұрын
Any specific torque wrench you recommend, especially for a begginer?
@marcussatterwhite
2 жыл бұрын
👌👍👌👍
@DrDre001
8 жыл бұрын
Hate the mark 6 Jetta 2.0l, the spark plugs are in the most awkward position
@jose15238
8 жыл бұрын
+423million lol
@86golf79
5 жыл бұрын
What brand are those spark plugs leads?
@nemanja299
8 жыл бұрын
Do It on boxer I dare you :D
@MichaelFemia
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Charles, what would you look at as the cause of intermittent arcing between a metal plug boot and the block on a single cylinder? I have a mk4 Jetta and have replaced plugs/wires/coil, all torqued to spec, not gunked with dielectric grease. Not misfiring, but I happened to notice it, and know that's not where sparks are supposed to be. Thank you!
@HumbleMechanic
7 жыл бұрын
Really only a rip in the boot , or the wiring on fully installed on the plug
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
never trust pregaps always check them, about half are usually wrong depending on gap
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
brand not gap
@jirojosephesman8175
8 жыл бұрын
thx for your kindness
@DocVanfox
7 жыл бұрын
I'm torn on the inside now, I was always taught to use anti-seize grease.
@theguywhorarelylies5454
7 жыл бұрын
Oooooh I haven't seen the video yet but your comment excites me! FUCK ABUNCHA ANTI SEIZE BULL SHIT!
@embreesmith7613
7 жыл бұрын
Sonic ..???
@JFomo
8 жыл бұрын
Those torque wrenches are expensive as hell.
@theguywhorarelylies5454
7 жыл бұрын
BRIGHT BLUE!!!! IM TRIGGERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@HumbleMechanic
7 жыл бұрын
+Jon Doe oh nooooooo!! Lol. It's what was on it when i bought it.
@theguywhorarelylies5454
7 жыл бұрын
Looks like they say NGK on them so ....I can give that a pass also :D
@HumbleMechanic
7 жыл бұрын
HAHA, I will take it :)
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
I was told by snap on to keep torque wrench with 10lbs on it
@HaloInR3v3rs3
8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Blake Jr. Torque wrenches should be stored at their lowest settings when not in use
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
Jeff King what I thought too but supposedly not the case
@HaloInR3v3rs3
8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Blake Jr. Snap-On needs to explain then how you set 10 ft/lbs on a wrench that isn't scaled to 10 ft/lbs...
@mblake0420
8 жыл бұрын
Jeff King lowest setting that has tension, that's my bad, maybe 20
@JuanMartinez-lf9of
7 жыл бұрын
What size torque wrench did you use
@HumbleMechanic
7 жыл бұрын
+Juan Martinez probably a 3/8 drive
@JuanMartinez-lf9of
7 жыл бұрын
HumbleMechanic Thank Youuuuu and love your channel man I just found your channel a couple weeks ago 👍🏼
@stefanczechorskidds8435
6 жыл бұрын
why no anti-seize ?????
@HumbleMechanic
6 жыл бұрын
VW doesn't call for it. When that happens I feel like they have a reason they don't call for it.
@stefanczechorskidds8435
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your note..... I know the reason.....$$$$ (its messy too!)
@stefanczechorskidds8435
6 жыл бұрын
I suspect this has something to do with its absence on the VW line (and others): www.impomag.com/article/2013/04/understanding-true-value-anti-seize note the paragraph, Torque-Tension relationship I still use it on spark plugs,O2 sensors, and any suspension bolts exposed to the elements under the car . Thanks for the Vids.
@BigLeagueDrew
8 жыл бұрын
Unless it's a 997 turbo, just don't do them lol. No, I'm kidding do them, but I warned you.
@Jsbs1991f
8 жыл бұрын
I'm watching to just watch. I've changed spark plugs a lot of times. I Change them every 3000 miles.
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Silva thanks for watching! Why change plugs so much?
@MrSlowestD16
8 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Silva That is insanely frequent. You must be running a metric shit-ton of boost to require plug changes so often!
@TechNWRO
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic I hate to keeping jumping in with questions off topic, sorry! We just got recall notice for bad TAKATA air bag on 2012 Golf. It's not safe to drive and no repair (no parts) in near future. What do you do know? Maybe this topic would make another informative video?
@HumbleMechanic
8 жыл бұрын
+TechNWRO TE no worries about jumping in. They haven't told us anything (which is really common and frustrating)
@TechNWRO
8 жыл бұрын
+HumbleMechanic I really appreciate the reply! I just contacted Hinrich J. Woebcken and I figure he won't tell me anything either! :)
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