Yeah, the third orphan type is definitely a big thing. I worked in HiFi retail in the late 80s, and customers often wanted a Kenwood/Technics/Pioneer midi-system *without* the included turntable. Mostly they were "proper" self-contained models though, with regular power/audio connectors. Often they'd have a 3.5mm "system" cable, which was optional/could be ignored. We didn't sell brands like Yorx. Lol. Even if we couldn't do a deal "sans turntable", the turntable would often end up in someone's attic, still new-in-box. I bet there are millions of such decks hiding in attics! Mostly nothing-special Aiwa-esque ones (long after Aiwa's heyday!).
@njm1971nyc
Жыл бұрын
Just to add a little more....the higher-end midi-systems tended to have much nicer linear-tracking turntables, far better build quality. These, even if people weren't really buying records anymore, tended to get set up with the rest of the system...so there won't be too many of those NIB in attics! Sadly! Just the super-basic black plastic belt-drive cheapies, most of which came out of the same factory.
@Lachlant1984
Жыл бұрын
If these turntables had standard audio and electrical power connections, what was the 'system' connection used for? Did it turn the turntable on and off when the appropriate function was selected?
@stevesstuff1450
Жыл бұрын
@@Lachlant1984 : Normally, Yes! It was a remote control function.
@Lachlant1984
Жыл бұрын
@@stevesstuff1450 I see. So if that system cable isn't use, does that mean the turntable is always powered on when connected to AC power? Did such turntables also have a power switch?
@njm1971nyc
Жыл бұрын
@@Lachlant1984 "system" was for remote control operation, or synchro-start of recordings, or auto-source select on the amp, that sort of thing. Not really seen on the budget models so much... something you'd find on linear tracking decks etc.
@TorontoJon
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of "orphan turntables", several years ago, I bought an "orphan cassette deck" made by Scott that had a ribbon cable to connect to its matching amplifier. Luckily, I bought the Scott amp (with remote included) for only $11.99, its matching tuner for $10, and the next day, the aforementioned cassette deck for only $5 on a half-price electronics sale day at my local Salvation Army Thrift Store. They all worked well and I added a Nikko CD player (only $5) to the set. I had assumed that the Scott amp and tuner would likely be picked up by someone else, so I jumped on them on the non-sale day, but I figured the "orphan cassette deck" would be useless to anyone else since it did not have typical RCA cables to connect to any amplifier, so I took a chance on the half-price sale day, got there early, and scooped up the cassette deck. :)
@Drinkyoghurt
Жыл бұрын
Mr Westlife (represent), your videos have been incredibly useful for someone with a current "cheap" vintage turntable addiction. It's really nice to see someone break away from audiophile bs and use common sense and factuality. Your videos have given me a good sample size of good and bad turntables and what to look out for so now I have no trouble finding obscure tables without any documentation and knowing whether they're going to be good and how to fix them. If you ever do come across a Sanyo, Fisher, or JVC turntable with a "normal" pivoting tonearm but track select, do not pass up on them. They use a cartridge which has an IR emitter and sensor to see the tracks and work much faster than linear turntables. Most also have a remote control option. They're super hard to come by and will definitely have some minor issues, but if you get them working it's something to keep for life.
@rod-bits-and-pieces
Жыл бұрын
I have to admit I have a liking for the cheaper stereos from the 80’s too. Not for the sound but nostalgia. Some of them can actually sound quite good. Think our equivalent to the American Sounddesign and yorx is maybe Amstrad or Bush of which I’ve a few. The cassette decks even on them is still ac bias recording. I’ve one with a slide out turntable and the amstrad is a one piece in a rack looking like separates. I have an old amstrad receiver too which sounds really nice.
@chrisa2735-h3z
Жыл бұрын
I love those cheap stereos too! Theres something about them that speaks to me.
@TheErador
Жыл бұрын
The old amstrad midi system we had in the 90s/00s was a beast. Must have been nearly a 14” (35cm) cube
@rod-bits-and-pieces
Жыл бұрын
@@TheErador the weakest point of the whole rack system units were the speakers! If you swap them out for something better they sound quite good. AC bias cassette decks, metal tape compatible, decent tuner. The bsr auto return decks work great once you clean out the old grease and replace it. Last one I did was completely seized!
@Popaholic
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@XodiumLabs
Жыл бұрын
Even though I'm not particularly into vinyl (..yet) this video is awesome because I actually have an orphaned set of speakers that came with an old Gateway monitor I used to have. Monitor died but the speakers sounded pretty good for what they were so I salvaged the speaker bar, which has one of those male barrel connectors on it that's meant to plug into the monitor itself. Been wanting to figure out how to get it running again and this video reminded me I should probably get on that. Also didn't know polarity reverse adapters were a thing, either. Good to know.
@snap_oversteer
Жыл бұрын
Same as with the polarity of DC jacks, I wouldn't always assume that red wire is positive and black/blue is negative, I think more reliable way to find polarity is to look for ground, on electrolytic caps which have ground marked or housing of the DC motor, for example.
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got burned with that when I was younger, I guaranteed myself barrel jacks were center positive. Even on modern electronics it's not always true.
@richardhalliday6469
Жыл бұрын
Certainly, ignore coloured cabling, the Chinese built products ( which let's be honest is almost all ) don't follow any particular protocol ! I've seen black, white , green , red you name it connected to positive. When debugging/troubleshooting switch your eyesight to monochrome!
@JeremyHeiden
Жыл бұрын
This was a lot of fun, I always adopt an orphan, especially in that condition. The Yorx sounded really good Thru the sound design. “Low end” got to be pretty bad ass by the late 80’s and mid 90’s. Making things work with mis-match was the way it was done when garage sales and maybe Christmas got you something cool here and there growing up.
@Xantylon74
Жыл бұрын
Phonograph,Turntable and Record Player, all in one small device. That’s high tech! 😃
@Xantylon74
Жыл бұрын
The wire with white the stripe is usually indicating the positive wire. 13:13 the Platter turns that switch finally off.
@jasonlambo7896
Жыл бұрын
Wow, great research on the old phone. I was thinking of doing just that with an old player of mine. Saved me the trouble. Or, just hear me out, I could use my VW van that drives around the LP with its speaker on top! Other than the doppler sound and no 45 mode, kind of fun to watch
@Space_Reptile
Жыл бұрын
That Aiwa turntable matches my Aiwa system, Wich I am desperately trying to find a player and tapedeck for that uses the umbilical so I have the controls Edit: Aiwa did sell a standalone version, I own it, it's the PX 800 instead of the PX 770 Wich you have
@VladoT
Жыл бұрын
Wow, you've just made an Apple turntable: 3 adapters and converters to be able to use this as an accessory.
@nickwallette6201
Жыл бұрын
You say "Apple," but we can really thank the USB Forum for taking the "universal" out of USB. "That connector is _so_ 2015. Use this one instead."
@Bob-1802
Жыл бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 Yep! USB has become a real mess. Maybe Apple should stick with Lightning after all 🤭
@nickwallette6201
Жыл бұрын
@@Bob-1802 Haha... I really don't care either way. I would just like for one connector to stick around for a while. Every time I build up a collection of cables and chargers, it changes, and I have to start over again. So whether it's Lightning, or USB-C, the 30-pin dock connector, or the old Motorola 3-pin thing.. just pick one and leave it alone! X-P
@LunarHermit
Жыл бұрын
Actually managed to do this to what I feel is a half way decent orphan. My friend picked up a tiny Fisher linear tracking table in really good shape, it needed a split +/- 12v power supply though; I kinda just guessed the voltage based on the design of the internal preamp but it works perfectly. The internal preamp was garbage though; absolutely no low end. I wired the RCAs directly up to the cartridge and it sounds shockingly good; I'd say on par with a halfway decent Audio Technica p-mount cart. The only con is that the cartridge is permanently affixed to the tone arm. We've been using it as the main table in the living room for a while now! So sometimes you can get a decent little table out of these poor orphans!
@pi6706
Жыл бұрын
Good to see Yorx had gone to the trouble of including LEDs to indicate the speed setting. Quite rare to see LEDs on a basic “pack deal” turntable.
@janosnagyj.9540
Жыл бұрын
26:36 if you would have opened the player first, _before_ cutting the original connector, you could just put that cable inside and connect new wires/cables for power in and audio out...
@needfortweed8734
Жыл бұрын
I have an orphaned turntable I bought modified from a seller here in Norway. That turntable was a Sharp RP-207, and the reason I wanted it was that has a tray design like your usual CD-players. And that is just neat.
@SianaGearz
Жыл бұрын
Today's AudioTechnica turntables are engineered and manufactured by Hanpin Electron, Taiwan, with manufacturing being done at their mainland China facility, they make the majority of affordable HiFi turntables and all DJ turntables except Technics. Did this company already exist back then and did it make that AIWA, or did it inherit the tech from another Taiwanese company? I wonder. Currently the website no longer lists several of the models they make, but 10 years ago it did, with AT-LP60 being a match to Hanpin FU-700 and AT-LP1240 being Hanpin DJ-5500 with minor electrical changes.
@watershed44
Жыл бұрын
@SianaGearz Audio Technica never made turntables as far as I can remember back in the 1980s and prior, only turntable accessories mostly magnetic cartridges, studio quality microphones, and headphones. I'm pretty sure that AT licensed their name to Hanpin in the past decade or two.
@SianaGearz
Жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 AT is a miniature precision magnetics manufacturer - headphone speaker drivers, microphone capsules, and phono cartridges. I imagine they decided to establish themselves as a turntable brand to support their phono cartridge business after all reputable Japanese turntable brands dried up and formed a market void. And of course they based it on manufacturing and part kit that was already established by someone else. So I imagine the product management, marketing and distribution of turntables is in Audio Technica hand, they can use the same distribution channels they use for their headphone and microphone products (Ingram), with engineering and manufacturing being handled by Hanpin.
@cbaltmackie2021
5 ай бұрын
I love when old audio systems use the term "cycles". I have an ild RCA "frequency record" that plays a continuous tone gping from "30 cycles" to "10000 cycles".
@pik33100
7 ай бұрын
A preamp for the crystal cartridge is easy to build. I would eventually 3d-print a box, put a preamp (one double op-amp is enough) and a power supplky into it and get a working turntable. However, these crystal cartridges need more weight - typical about 10 g instead of 1..2 g needed for modern magnetic cartridges. This of course causes records to wear much faster.
@neilforbes416
Жыл бұрын
13:13 The auto shut-off method described here is *NOT* new. Colaro in Britain made a single-playing phono deck in the 1950s and into the early 1960s that employed the same method, pull the arm back until you hear a "click" which starts the platter rotating, and when the stylus reaches the centre run-out groove, the mechanism triggers the shut-off which cuts power to the motor, and possibly also retracts the idler wheel from the capstan. Several other 1960s-vintage single-play decks used the same method.
@neilforbes416
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I was referring to rim-drive turntables here.
@HenryLoenwind
Жыл бұрын
Those barrel plugs and jacks are available with integrated screw terminals. Really cheap parts, really useful.
@johnDingoFoxVelocity
Жыл бұрын
So I spent my years looking for a Panasonic 8 track player with the RCA jacks Now let me explain why the Panasonic 8 track player near the end of its life Actually has a fiber glass belt so the belt doesn't turn gooey and it doesn't break down it continues to run and run and run as long as you can find tapes and what's quite shocking is that I've had this sting now for 25 years And it still hasn't skipped a beat I could really see why people love this model of player it's the same reason why sometimes taking on a orphan turntable can really be a nightmare because some of these turntables had really really proprietory needles And even worse were only made by the manufacturer so you definitely gotta be careful
@RickTheGeek
Жыл бұрын
A good trick that can help find out the polarity is to do a continuity test between an outer shield of a connector and each terminal on the power connector. The shields of RCA jacks etc are usually connected to the negative side of the power supply.
@alextirrellRI
Жыл бұрын
I got my first turntable and records of my own in 1989. It had a mechanism like the York! I could swear vinyl held on a little longer but I'm thinking we probably didn't buy many new records in the early 90's. CD players were reasonably expensive for a while. I didn't get my first one until 1995. I did buy tapes in the interim.
@lttbigbob
Жыл бұрын
I always thought those barrel plugs were all the same. Would explain why some of my toys and whatnot when i was a kid wouldn't work with other plugs.
@andygozzo72
Жыл бұрын
i used to have a silver hitachi 'music centre' that had lost its 'custom' record deck and cassette deck, and if i had them, and the rest was in better state(it was used in a factory for many years before i was told i could have it as they were clearing out, and was very mucky) i'd have kept it , also got a twin tape cassette unit that has a strange multiway connector for audio in/out, cant remember brand at the mo
@AndyBHome
Жыл бұрын
Not that it's completely appropriate for this video, but they're is a modern cheapo turntable that Crossley seems to be dumping through Marshall's called the C3. It's cheap, but it has some great fundamentals. I got one for about $55 and it's really quite amazing at that price. I'll look for a more appropriate video to post this comment to, but I hope the host of this channel will consider looking at one of those.
@ropersonline
Жыл бұрын
17:53: What you call the sunk cost fallacy others may call reusing over recycling, and not wanting to throw things away or buy new stuff even if that's technically cheaper. It's cheaper because all the externalities are not being factored in. Therein lies the problem.
@thethirdrail8397
Жыл бұрын
The turntable with the PC port Line, is a DJ's Turntable. but that turntable can also be used to Copy your Lp's with at the time... the Highest quality re recording system and power. I think, that turntable was a turntable from the early 90's! I would save any Phonograph. I think, Lp's, 45's 78's do sound better than the CD/MP3!
@solojinglesradio1
Жыл бұрын
I think there's some Sony turntables with same design or form to get into a player, not directly from a plug
@fraudsarentfriends4717
2 ай бұрын
Record sales didn't collapse that fast. If you're invested in vinyl you're likely to still buy record players even if you begin to adopt a new format. More likely the store separated and sold the system without the player when they were told to stop selling record players.
@timothyweers8054
Жыл бұрын
I had a Sony TA-AX 295 stereo system, the turntable was pure crap. The cartridge was difficult to replace the needle, I needed to use coins to press needle into groove because it made records sounded off without the coins. It also had a simular cooky power wire which the entire system had for hooking up the tuner and cassette deck.
@verkehrsteilnehmer-berlin
5 ай бұрын
I know about these thing in between a compact system in one housing and components you can exchange and combine as ever you want. It has few advantages over an all in one unit, the Snow White Coffin Style, when record player or cassette drive is broken, you can continue using the rest of them, as long the error isn't the power supply. But the non standardized connectors... I myself avoided stuff like this. Instead I purchased used stuff. The record player needed a new stylus and new belt and worked fine, meanwhile I regret, that I gave it away, it was better, than the with Dual and AIWA rebranded Audiotechnica standard player. I had a radio tuner, amplifier (this was new, instore brand of a store for HiFi, TV and parts) and some speakers (not expensive, about 100 bugs each, but with good sound).
@Thievius333
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I necessarily agree with your final assessment that these kind of TTs aren't worth the effort because of their low quality. I get your point in theory - that working around these oddball connectors would be a pain and just buying a used LP60 would be a better decision. I'm just talking about their build and sound quality. I grew up with very similar kinds of turntables and I could see myself being just as happy with another similar one than I am with my pain-in-the-butt AT-LP120X. (Seriously though - a $350 TT that has given me nothing but headaches - WTF??? I should have just gone with an LP60X or Sony/Pioneer like-minded automatic.)
@oldfag_adventures
Жыл бұрын
what have you found disappointing about the at-lp120x? just curious because it's one i've had my eye on for a while
@Thievius333
Жыл бұрын
@@oldfag_adventures The tone arm and anti skate, not sure which. When I raise the tone arm and move it to (say) the last song on an album, the arm doesn't stay put, it slides outwards as if the anti skate is up too high. If I bring the dial down to zero, it doesn't slide out but I can't imagine having anti skate set to zero is correct. And that's not even with the tone arm engaged, that's when it's raised up above the record. You would think the anti skate didn't engage until the tone arm is deployed but apparently not. I've tinkered endlessly with the damn thing and cannot figure out what's wrong. It's endlessly frustrating, but it seems to be an issue with just mine, not all LP120's.
@oldfag_adventures
Жыл бұрын
@@Thievius333 hm interesting, thank you so much for your timely response! i'll have to keep that in mind
@kaitlyn__L
Жыл бұрын
@@Thievius333 tbh if that were me I’d give a few records a play with it set to 0 and see if there were actually any issues, just in case it happened to be that well balanced. If you just got lucky that would explain why the ones other people have do need some anti skate. But maybe you’ve done that with unsatisfactory results?
@MrDuncl
Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall VWestlife started having problems with the speed of his AT-LP120. Anyway the choice isn't clear cut given that many of these orphan turntables are unused in their boxes.
@JohnStopman
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! ^^
@DavidBerquist334
Жыл бұрын
I think you can get a transformer that has voltage output that matches the unit and put a cord on it and a line fuse on the AC primarily consult with a authorized tech before doing
@JohnStopman
Жыл бұрын
It looks like Crosley introduced a new turntable with a magnetic cartridge: the Crosley CR6255A-CC (cost: around $155,-) 🙂 If you get your hands on one, would you review it for us? 🤔
@vwestlife
Жыл бұрын
That uses the same turntable mechanism, tonearm, and cartridge as the Crosley Collegiate, which I've already done a video about.
@JohnStopman
Жыл бұрын
@@vwestlife Then I haven't seen that video yet. Okay, It's easy enough to find it on your channel. Thanks! 🙂
@leskaighin8903
Жыл бұрын
Very informative as ever
@azoriusmage
Жыл бұрын
I saved a Sony one which was full size and replaced the cartridge and it seems pretty decent
@richconroy5559
Жыл бұрын
I had that Aiwa system!
@windowsuser321
Жыл бұрын
Comment #2 - have you ever had a turntable with a failing belt that sounded like there was a sink drain coming through the audio? I had that happen with a Pioneer turntable, and looking it up online it seems to be a real thing. It's very odd though!
@fernandoesteves7331
Жыл бұрын
Stainless ! Good job, congrats !
@robfriedrich2822
Жыл бұрын
21:17 the guitar player is requested not to wake up the sleeping baby....
@SilverGreen93
Жыл бұрын
Why not replace the whole wire from inside the aiwa with the rca and jack? I have done that many times and looks and holds way better.
@EricLDC
Жыл бұрын
Still listening to vinyl i hit up antique stores. I've found bands l like for cheap. 5 to 8 dollars. Better then digging thru 1 million religion and opera albums at good will.
@0311Mushroom
Жыл бұрын
You could have just soldered new wires to the board without cutting the cable.
@dashcamandy2242
Жыл бұрын
When removing the clip: ALWAYS HOLD IT AS YOU SLIDE IT OFF, just so in case it (EDIT: wants) to fly across the room. The Yorx sounded shockingly-good through the IMA compact stereo!
@fhwolthuis
Жыл бұрын
Great video, Kevin. Always good to hear the Gaylords again 😂😉
@aperson6955
Жыл бұрын
I have a Hitachi HT-MD26 modified to a seperates component.
@charlesloukas1946
Жыл бұрын
I would like to know if the Ozzie that said that in 1991 it was all over for records is still with us ?
@andreiradu1945
Жыл бұрын
These hifi sets always looked like what would alan sugar describe as a mug's eyeful. Or what I would like to call an eyeful's tower.
@MarquisDeSang
Жыл бұрын
At this point, anything is better than digital renting.
@alfonsedente9679
Жыл бұрын
I adopted a turntable once. Mint condition for $10. $150 for the needle (not included)
@jockeyjeon9532
Жыл бұрын
to be fair, stylus needs replacing after some use
@alfaholic3
Жыл бұрын
I've been after one of those ribbon cables for a long time but i cant ever seem to find one.
@Frank_42
Жыл бұрын
Don't buy anything that uses ceramic cartridges unless you plan to upgrade it to a better cartridge. Even those Victrola suitcase players can be upgraded to a crappy diamond needle for about ten bucks which makes them sound less crappy.
@TheKnobCalledTone.
Жыл бұрын
Still better than a Crosley.
@krunchyfrog
Жыл бұрын
As a DC motor, I think it would just spin backwards if you used the wrong polarity. If power does go to the stylus it would just be as a pickup and again it would just play out of phase if stereo.
@MultiWirth
Жыл бұрын
There´s probably some kind of motor driver that will blow up on reversed polarity because something has to regulate the speed. So there´s at least a small passive circuit inside but that still means it has polarized caps inside.
@vwestlife
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the motor will turn backwards if you reverse the polarity, but there's also an electrolytic capacitor attached to it which will blow if you do!
@virtualtools_3021
Жыл бұрын
Those caps will blow up tho
@davidnorton573
Жыл бұрын
@@MultiWirth Alas no, those motors have a regulator that uses the back EMF of the motor to regulate speed, and reversing the polarity will blow the chip up.
@MarkyShaw
Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking how rad it would be if you were an AM or FM radio DJ and you only used the devices you repair to air your daily playlists. I would have your station as a preset, my friend. Always love the history, mods, repairs and the music selection! Hope your holiday is most excellent.
@lmaoroflcopter
Жыл бұрын
Ha, that Yorx system tries to look like a linear tracking technics turntable it seems. The markings on the top are uncannily similar.
@BokBarber
Жыл бұрын
Given that Aiwa's design, if I were going to the trouble to convert one I would've just desoldered the original wire from the circuit board, completely replaced it with new wiring for a separate wall wart and RCA jacks, and taped up / stowed the original wiring somewhere in the body of the table. That way the mod is a bit cleaner and less destructive if I ever had to revert it back to its original state. One could even do something with pin headers on the board if they were up to it, but let's not get crazy.
@Varangian_af_Scaniae
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing down my thoughts.😄 Strange approach saving that really crappy York then gut the Aiwa.
@RicMac-ey6yx
Жыл бұрын
@@Varangian_af_Scaniae I think he was showing ways anybody might be able to do it.
@bradallen8909
Жыл бұрын
Yep, exactly what I was thinking. Would have been much, much cleaner.
@DimensionDude
Жыл бұрын
Good research job on those old, cheap turntables. A few points here: 1. I never really got a good look at the underside of the Yorx platter, but I was thinking that since you essentially "armed" the shutoff mechanism, there may be a "boss" molded into the platter that trips the shutoff when the tonearm gets to the runout. 2. I'm also a big proponent of making reversible modifications. I would have gone so far as to remove the original power cable on the Yorx, cut the plug off of the adapter (DC adapters are easy to find) and soldered the cable directly to the original attachment points. Likewise, I would have removed the ribbon cable from the Aiwa and installed suitable cables. But then again, that's just me. 3. The intro to "The Colonel Bogey March" at 20:51 bears a striking resemblance to the intro of Steely Dan's "Do It Again."
@rennethjarrett4580
Жыл бұрын
#1 if you watched closely you would see that the tone arm activated the switch as well as shut off the switch. But the thing about that set up it puts side pressure on the tone arm that puts pressure on the outer edge of the record. For me to not ruin my records, I would have bypassed the switch with a external one and not used the clicking mechanism since it ride the outside of the record groove..
@steveoszman8746
Жыл бұрын
I have to stop watching your vids, now inexplicably buying this sort of stuff and spending endless hours getting the fiddly things working. Well it beats some more expensive methods of wasting time.
@F40PH-2CAT
Жыл бұрын
I saw the Gaylords open for Queen back in 79....not really
@Madness832
Жыл бұрын
I had that Yorx stereo, that starts around 8:32. Got it for my birthday in 1987. It also came w/ a rack and the most ridiculous speakers. The latter were about three feet tall, but each had one 8", full-range driver, down near the bottom. I later found some better speakers at a yard sale.
@TheErador
Жыл бұрын
Hate fake full range speakers. Just unnecessary cabinetry
@AndyBHome
Жыл бұрын
How about fake tweeters and EQ controls? When the manufacturer puts more into deceptive decoration than actual functionality I lose my mind.
@TheErador
Жыл бұрын
@@AndyBHome you should check out the analognic needleator by Funk Logic then.
@christo930
Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree that these cheap decks are the result of the vinyl slowdown of the late 1980s. They are just cheap electronics. It's not like you couldn't get excellent turntables in 1985 or 1987. Some of the best sounding turntables ever made were made in this period. Every other component of these cheap plastic bookshelf machines, which were little more than non-portable boomboxes are every bit as bad and bare-minimum as the turntable. The whole stereo is bad. Even the ones with CD players sound bad. They have cheap plastic speakers. 1 or 2 watt output which sound tinny and weak. They are just all around 1980s plastic badness, especially YORX. Yorx was so bad even Kmart didn't sell that name in the 80s. Dollars to donuts these machines sold for 100-200 Dollars at the most. I bought one in 1987 for 99 Dollars at Toys R Us.
@robfriedrich2822
Жыл бұрын
What about the option Phonograph? It's sometimes used to avoid the word gramophone, what is a trademark. Interestingly, East Europe didn't care about this, a phonograph was always called gramophone and a tape recorder magnetophon, what is a trademark by Telefunken.
@vwestlife
Жыл бұрын
Phonograph was Thomas Edison's name for his cylinder player. When Emil Berliner invented the flat disc record player, he called it the gramophone. Even after flat discs replaced cylinders, many people in the U.S. still referred to a record player as a phonograph, while gramophone remained the more common term in Europe.
@Rayhouse
Жыл бұрын
I 'm an ordinary follower... Oliver from The Netherlands... A new video from you is like a friend is comming by... You're welcome!
@peaksteve
Жыл бұрын
Back in 1988 I was the proud recipient of an Aiwa hi-fi system for Christmas, and it included the very turntable in this video! It was a CX-770, and included a 5-band GEQ (with spectrum analyser - so cool back in the 80s!), a digital tuner and twin tape decks with auto reverse on the recording deck. I had it for 10 years before embarking on a journey into sepearates that continues to this day. Thanks for bringing back some great musical memories!
@JacobKelly02
Жыл бұрын
I did this with a pioneer turntable, very similar to an lp60 like the aiwa. It was my main turntable for many years. Still used in a secondary system and sounds great
@RemiDupont
Жыл бұрын
They might be low-end, but ti's better thent not having one at all. My kind of thinkering ;)
@F40PH-2CAT
Жыл бұрын
Yorx....the first name in quality drug store electronics...
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
Haha, yep!
@randyab9go188
Жыл бұрын
Was it even that good?
@randyab9go188
Жыл бұрын
But it was quality next to a Crosley!
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
@@randyab9go188 no, he used quality as sarcasm... It's very cheap junk. Think of those units with 18" high speakers, but single 5" drivers in them.
@writerpatrick
Жыл бұрын
It's the sort of thing that would pop up around Christmastime.
@Aeduo
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing era-inappropriate about cheap 80s equipment paired with cheap 70s equipment. That would've been suuuuuper common to see WELL in to the 2000s even.
@robfriedrich2822
Жыл бұрын
15:30 there are AC adaptors, where you can change the polarity. With switch or the detachable cable.
@MichiganPeatMoss
Жыл бұрын
Right - barrel plug polarity is important - LOL - and they used Male barrel as a power input instead of an output. I recall a great deal of Casio music keyboards being center-negative. - oh wait - you just said that too. :)
@OzRetrocomp
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of Sinclair ZX Spectrum (and presumably Timex Sinclair 2068) computers have been killed or badly injured over the years by people using power supplies with centre positive barrel jacks... oof.
@FranklyPeetoons
Жыл бұрын
I haven't owned a turntable or any vinyl records since 1993. I would never voluntarily descend into the fragile, inconvenient hell of LP playback again. Yet, your video is almost a half-hour long and I watched all of it. Success?
@fixitalex
Жыл бұрын
Some people suddenly realised that there is no amp or even no RIAA corrector after buying such thing. I saw such examples in Russia. And after they start calling somebody to do something)
@rod-bits-and-pieces
Жыл бұрын
The small realistic sa155 amps like the ones you’ve reviewed in the past equalise a ceramic cartridge perfectly too. They can actually sound quite good even with only under 2 watts a channel.
@CARLiCON
Жыл бұрын
Yes, my SA150 has a CER-MAG switch & phono ground lug
@xaenon
Жыл бұрын
Those little SA150 and 155 amps are indispensable and very versatile. I insist on having at least one around at all times. Give 'em some reasonably efficient speakers and they sound fantastic despite the limited power.
@rod-bits-and-pieces
Жыл бұрын
@@xaenon I’m the same I have two lying around. The older one with the silver facia I also have the matching tuner and cassette deck. It’s a great wee system and I’ve not even had to change the belts on the cassette deck.
@DavidLee-zy3ju
Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, very interesting video. Here in the UK in 1994 I bought an Aiwa midi system z1500 and with it a fully automatic turntable px-e850. I believe you have one. System had a double cassette,3 CD changer and 4 band radio. It also had different sound categories like pop,rock,hall,live etc. It cost £399 including 3 way speakers as well. The next year was my dad's 60th birthday and we all got together to buy him a new music system. We looked at different brands for around the same price eg Sony, pioneer, Kenwood. Couldn't beat the Aiwa and bought the same as mine. I still have the turntable,I sold it recently as it worked perfectly. I'd bought a replacement cartridge years ago for £11.99,an Audio Technica clone. As it had a built in pre amp I used it with a Sony NX1 system. Some people are asking silly money for it,one £95!!!.
@Wellibob68
Жыл бұрын
Superb video. God I was so glad I was there in the 80s (I'm 54 now). Yourself & Matt make brilliant videos that take me back, and i can watch vicariously and enjoy. I thank you.
@Super8Rescue
Жыл бұрын
You have some lovely records to play. Great for getting past YT content ID too!
@marcberm
Жыл бұрын
Aww, two male barrel connectors finding happiness together with the help of a friend! Does that make "12V 5.5mm x 2.1mm DC...able Wire Ends Plug Barrel" an ally?
@albinklein7680
Жыл бұрын
That ultra-80s-arrangement with the 5 1/4" floppy-drive and that cheap 14" Monitor in the back; and the black plastic stereo system in the front really made my day! It gave me a nice warm reminder of my childhood. Thanks a lot! I really enjoyed that view. I recently searched for an old book in my parent's attic and ran across my cheap plastic "Schneider" system I had when I was 12 years old. I had to take it home with me. Twelve band graphic EQ, ridiculous claim of "500W PMPO", the "Metal" sign on the tape deck door and all the other goodies are there. It deserves a nice place in my man cave.
@frankowalker4662
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha. I grew up with that Command Stereo Checkout record. My dad bought it before I was born, (I'm in my 50's now), I still use it to check frequency responses of stereos, speakers and the rumble, wow and flutter of turntables. My favorite track is the last one on side 2, Enjoy Yourself Cha Cha. :) LOL I typed all that BEFORE you played track 4.
@Musicradio77Network
Жыл бұрын
I have a couple of stereo demonstration albums including Audio Fidelity’s “Stereo Demonstration and Sound Effects” album, Bel Canto’s Stereo Demonstration album with multicolored vinyl which was really cool, the Decca stereo demonstration record, RCA Victor’s “Sounds in Space” stereo demonstration record and the Project 3’s “Stereo Test Record” which was in conjunction with Popular Science Monthly magazine. I’ve never came across this Command Stereo Check Out record, but I would really love to hear the entire album. I also have the “Fantasia” soundtrack which were 3 LP’s with a gatefold booklet, and it was a stereo release on the Buena Vista label which was originally on Disneyland, and it was soundtrack to the Disney animated musical of “Fantasia” released in 1940, but it was a 1957 release since stereo was about to come in.
@frankowalker4662
Жыл бұрын
@@Musicradio77Network I've got the Project 3 Q4 test record, for calibrating SQ Quadrophonic systems. Produced by Enoch Light and Jeff Hest.
@beartwigs
Жыл бұрын
Re: Center positive/negative. Another extremely common usage for center negative plugs these days is for instrument effects such as guitar pedals.
@JaredConnell
Жыл бұрын
That's what the adapter he used was designed for
@83Roboto
Жыл бұрын
Out of the two, the Aiwa seems to be the worth saving and using. It has a better cart and is automatic.
@notvalidcharacters
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "Aiwa" (as it's pronounced) is Arabic for "yes".
@Daijyobanai
Жыл бұрын
Who would refuse an invitation to a party VWestlife's home with that record collection? Not me.
@orange_light_pictures
Жыл бұрын
Out of the two Turntables, the Yorx sounded more spacious but a little shrill. Not sure if the was the initial system used? The AIWA sounded warmer, less top heavy. When you cut the cable of the AIWA then went and looked inside; would it not have been better to de-solder the cable? Or would that have been to messy?
@matthewrichards88
Жыл бұрын
Hey vwestlife when wiring thr phono plugs and the turntable has common ground do you have to connect the common ground to both the left and right phono plugs or is just to one channel sufficient?. Great video
@vwestlife
Жыл бұрын
I connect the common ground to both the left and right audio plugs. That way if you have only one plugged in, it will still work.
@PeterBellefleur
Жыл бұрын
Soundesign and Yorx. Just need a GPX and you can complete the 1980s total crap holy Trinity.
@sali-ali
Жыл бұрын
You can test with multimeter if it's a center positive or center negative, set the multimeter to continuity test and touch one of the probes to the center pin and the other probe to a grounded place if it beeps it's center negative, if it doesn't beep it's center positive. To find out the voltage just give it three volts and increase the voltage slowly until it starts to play at correct speed.
@Josie2013
Жыл бұрын
It was so nice to watch a video that had NO mid-roll ads. Thank you.
@KC4RAE
Жыл бұрын
Ah Yorx. I remember those things when new. Came with included speaker cabinet rattle out of the box. I have a AT 120 something-or-other. I haven't done a video about it because I'm not done filming it. The whole thing is a disaster. I should have never bought the thing.
@ericbechler9903
Жыл бұрын
Nice vwestlife 😃
@kiwatech
Жыл бұрын
i had the same aiwa turntable, i actually added the missing transformer and cables, it was nice, i paid nothing for it so for the price it was fine for the time.
@WSNO
Жыл бұрын
When i find these, I stockpile them and do research about the stereo models that correspond to the model of the turntable. Then, i have a list of those stereo model numbers when i go hunting. I match them up and pass them along as sets. Most people would rather have something like this that they know where to get it worked on and upgraded (me) than spending a ton of money on a modern one.
@eliasroque2397
Жыл бұрын
Those old records had very good stereo separation.
@simonbeasley989
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant entertaining video there as ever VWestlife! I planned to skip through given the length but watched it all. I am just trying to work out which is the silliest thing - the lack of standard on centre positive/centre negative power plugs or those graphic equaliser controls with two slider knobs per control to make it look like there are more bands than there really are!!
@MrSweelinck
Жыл бұрын
Funny, I think they both were worth saving. Though I would have gone "non destructive" by unsoldering connections inside and adding in new cables. In the case of the AWAI both power and audio jacks, and for the Yorx just the power with a short length and the barrel input. The original cables could have been set aside, but honestly, nobody is going to reunite these with their "components." The turntables are perfectly adequate for 99% of applications. Even featuring auto stop that many new models don't have.
@RocketCityTech
Жыл бұрын
I love when people cut the connector off far enough away from the end so you can actually reconnect/repair it later!!
@Lachlant1984
Жыл бұрын
Slightly off topic, but I was born in 1984, so I'm only just old enough to remember the decline of the vinyl record. We had a record player when I was very young, but we stopped using it when I was about 7, I think the cartridge or stylus failed and Dad never replaced it, I believe this happened in very early 1991 when I was 7. I have a younger brother who was born when I was 15. When he was very young my step father lamented the fact his son wouldn't grow up knowing what a record is. 23 years later, my younger brother loves records, he has a record player and a collection of records, so now, I can spoil him by going to one of my favourite shops and I can buy him vinyl LPs to play, it's just so interesting that a music format that was abandoned over 30 years ago has regained popularity again and that you can buy such a large library of music on vinyl record. Makes me wonder if the CD will regain popularity in the future. The CD is my favourite music distribution media.
@brick6347
Жыл бұрын
I was talking to my 17 year old nephew the other day, he only buys music on CDs... For the same reason some people in my generation would buy the LPs. I wonder if my grandfather's friends would only buy the Edison cylinders!
@jjcoolaus
Жыл бұрын
In your and your grandfather’s generation, recorded music on physical media was the only thing available. Streaming music can be equal to or better than cd 💿 just go into the settings and turn the quality up. For me if a song drops off streaming media , that’s ok , I’ve probably listened to it too many times anyway
@brick6347
Жыл бұрын
@@jjcoolaus I never said it wasn't. Just musing that there's a tendency to think the previous generation somehow had it better.
@windowsuser321
Жыл бұрын
@@jjcoolaus Better than CD means going beyond the human range of hearing. Audiophiles who claim to be able to go beyond CD quality should not be listened to.
@CKT1138
Жыл бұрын
I work with a lot of gen Z folks at my job and they're into collecting music on any format they can get, but several of them specifically want to get more into CDs. It makes a lot of sense, and I encourage it! Although it's a bummer that some old CD prices are slowly creeping up there
@windowsuser321
Жыл бұрын
@@CKT1138 I love CDs, I have hundreds of them - probably 500 - but vintage CD players are tragically flakey. But they are very cheap, so you don't really have to worry. Any given DVD player will play CDs anyways, though it likely won't sound as good as a *cd player*.
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