Read all the way to the end. Watched this vid a dozen times. Probably going to watch it a dozen more. One of the best vids I've seen on any topic. Well organized, lucid narration, concise. Excellent Job! Thank you. I've been riding most of my adult life. I'm 61. I have a custom rigid bobber (look for me here on KZitem - shameless, I know). I also have a '32 VL I just finished rebuilding. Time to ride it. Oh no! Foot clutch. Whatever will I do? And yes the mechanism that holds the clutch disengaged does weaken over time. In fact the mechanism on the VL is NOT a detent, as I've heard some misinformed people call it, it's a clutch, complete with a friction disc and pressure plate. And not a very well designed one at that. You tighten the nut to make the rocker pedal more difficult to move, or stay where you put it. Even in the disengaged position. And with aid of the helper spring (not a sissy spring, it's actually necessary to get the thing to work, well, work better). Then MAYBE the clutch will stay disengaged. The mechanism is so poorly designed I decided I'm not going to use it. I'll just ride it like a jockey shift. And so this brings me to this most excellent vid. And the reason why I am, after a lifetime of riding, converting my bobber to a jockey shift, foot clutch. If both bikes are jockey shift foot clutch. Well, I'll pick it up faster and get past this annoying, having to think about, now how am I going to stop. So suicide clutch - True story. This would NOT happen on a modern machine with a modern set up. When riding my VL I pulled into the driveway, thought I had the machine in neutral, took my foot off the brake. Thought I was coasting to a stop. BUT! For the life of me I could not figure out why the thing was still moving! And not a short distance either. In the time it took me to figure out the thing was still in gear I had plowed through three trash bins, slammed into the gutter drain of the garage and ripped the corner molding from the corner. Then I fell to the right. With the engine still running, and rear tire spinning, I finally realized what had happened. I reached up and turned it off. The old machines DID NOT have dual wire throttles that would automatically close the butterfly valve when you took your hand off the grip. They will stay open. Or in my case, the butterfly was cracked open just enough. And just a little fuel is all it takes in first gear to keep the machine moving. So given the right machine, and set up.The idea of the suicide CLUTCH is a real. But it has nothing to do with stop signs/lights and slipping one's foot off of the clutch with the throttle closed. Someone has more correctly defined it as a machine with a jockey shift, foot clutch and no front brake. And stopping on hill. The riders of the 60s and 70s would rather than have to stop on a hill, just run the light or stop sign. I don't know if there's any truth to this. But I have experiential knowledge now of the potential danger of running this set up on an old machine that was built with it from the factory. They can be dangerous in the hands of the unskilled. Imagine if I had been coming up to a stop light, intersection, or trying to make a sharp turn.
@greasesgarage
Ай бұрын
Love to read these types of well informed responses. Thank you for watching the video and I appreciate the kind words. I have no doubt you’ll pick it up quickly and enjoy many more years of trouble free riding 🙏🏼 stay safe brother
@nunoaraujo7381
4 ай бұрын
I would like to leave my testimony. I've been driving my Harley for 25 years with hand shift, clutch in my right hand with the throttle, and both brakes on my right foot. I've never had any problems and I drive without any stress. When I brake I lean to the left. I wish you all good motorcycle rides
@CaseyJohnston-fk6bi
Ай бұрын
I hade a clutch on my throttle hand once I liked it it was different but I figured it out easy
@DearMr.Fantasy
Жыл бұрын
Hands down one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. Although I will never have this setup on my bike, I love watching a tutorial like yours that is top notch. That ride along camera at the clutch/shifter is outstanding. Well done and thanks!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the feedback man! Love to know that it’s coming across the way I hoped it would. If you know someone it could help please share it with them, there are so few videos on this topic and I’m trying to let people see it’s much easier than they think! 🙏🏼
@everettcalhoun8197
Жыл бұрын
I have been riding bikes for over half a century and rode a '76 90" stroker for many years with a jockey shift and suicide clutch. What you describe is true in certain circumstances but not all situations are the same. I didn't see you try to ride the mountains packed up with your ol' lady on the back. Riding a bike with no mirror, no kill button, and no front brake is stupid. Life is way too short to not take safety into the equation. Indian Larry used to stand on the seat while riding hundreds of times until the one time he didn't. The scenario you describe with the bike stalling at an intersection when you lose your balance can happen but another scenario is with your hand on the throttle and your twisting the throttle as you are trying to catch your balance and if you have a big inch motor it will not stall. Loved the video and the way you ride is only for the very talented. Later.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking out the videos and the channel I appreciate the feedback. I do ride it packed up and with a passenger, but as always I never tell others what THEY should do as it’s a choice we all have to make for ourselves. We all have our own line 🙏🏼
@everettcalhoun8197
Жыл бұрын
@@greasesgarage Thank you for an adult response. I have a situation that I deal with every time I ride. I leave my driveway and go up to the stop sign on my dead end road where it angles to the left and is a 10% grade uphill. It is all I can do to negotiate that stop on my dresser two up with a hand clutch and front brake. What makes it even more treacherous is the highway has a lot of traffic on it and you almost have to be out in traffic to see if it's clear to pull out. What you can do in your 20's is not what you can do in your 70's. Just sayin'. Later.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@everettcalhoun8197 I pray to still be riding at 70, good on you brotha!
@Slider_1551
4 ай бұрын
I ride with my old lady all the time loaded up and haven't had a problem and a lot of panic stops. I still wouldn't go back to hand clutch but I do still have a front brake. Just my two cents keep the videos coming.
@Lanesplitter
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for debunking some of the myths and mystery perpetrated by nay-sayers with a super-clear and concise explanation. Keep up the great work 👍
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words man! Happy to hear it came across clear too, you never really know until someone says so haha
@scottkennedy3405
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation.ive been riding a jockey shift panhead for over 30 years and love it.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott I appreciate that man
@eddieweaver4773
11 ай бұрын
This bike has the shift lever modded to become the clutch pedal. This setup is a lot easier to live with than an aftermarket suicide pedal. Ive had both. My first jockey/ suicide bike had the modified shifter. I'm glad it did.
@farmerphil
7 ай бұрын
Great video I ran my 54 Pan for 18 years with a jockey shift and suicide clutch no front brake, steep hill with a stop light at times were an experience to say the least, and that was when sober. Best video great memories.
@greasesgarage
7 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! It’s such a fun setup I don’t think I could ever go back
@Richard_Lush
Жыл бұрын
I personally try to never put my foot down when making a tight left. I don’t find the need. Just practice super slow riding and your bike will follow. It’s a lesson I learned years ago from a seasoned biker. Stuck with me. Jockey shifts are awesome. You feel one with the bike. It’s the way it should be. Cheers. Great video 👍
@mx5701
5 ай бұрын
Riders who need to put their foot down in turns gotta go back to riding school IMO. It's just a shit habit for people without the proper skill to ride a bike.
@greasesgarage
5 ай бұрын
@mx5701 I understand what you’re saying. I’m just trying to explain the process for people at all skills levels
@ericksoncraig2519
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation and camera work. Been driving big trucks since 1979 with twin stick transmissions so hepls me relate to this. Also grew up in the 70's when choppers were very prevalant and seeing this type of setup. Always wantef to know about it. Thanks for the video. Stay safe!!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words man! Happy to hear it came through clear and easy to understand. What a time to grow up too, an era we all look back at as the good ol' days, who would have thought back then that those factory bikes would later become some of the most coveted machines the company ever made.
@ericksoncraig2519
Жыл бұрын
@@greasesgarage Yup I agree. On my 4th harley a 22 road king. Always wanted a custom ( old school chopper) like a lot of the ones David Mann use to put in Easy Rider Magazine. However I'm 68 now so running out of time. Wish you the best on your future builds.
@vk7408
Жыл бұрын
What an outstanding tutorial on one of the most mystified set ups out there. I have one after riding many years the regular way. This was so well filmed, explained and put together. You're the only one out there that did something different well done sir!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
It means a lot to me to hear this man, thank you so much for the kind words 🙏🏼 glad to hear you’re already on team jockey shift 💪🏼
@vk7408
Жыл бұрын
You deserve it. You spend a lot of time on close up videos, script layout, b roll, editing, setting up shots, and researching data. Its really very well done work and sets you apart from the others@@greasesgarage
@samjones-ou3bn
Жыл бұрын
best ive ever seen i rode stick for 20 plus years this is the best how too i seen
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@samjones-ou3bn thank you Sam 🙏🏼
@psilocybe_reptiliensis
2 ай бұрын
exactly like a manual car. In Brasil we can nail it. Great tutorial. Cheers!
@greasesgarage
2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@laurentruesdale4088
8 ай бұрын
That brings back memories, even a smile , thats difficult. In my 20s i had same set up on my 47 knuckle, long gone. I consider another foot clutch from time to time. Im old and worn out, carry an oxygen tank. Ill stick with hand clutch . Miss dragging the floor boards. Starting to like you, haven't decided yet.
@greasesgarage
8 ай бұрын
Glad you’re watching, hope you stick around 🙏🏼
@yinyanglovebomb
Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. I’ve only been running a jockey shift for this season. It’s fun once you learn! Thought about ditching the front brake and opting for a springer… good tips here to help with that decision!!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Might be worth dropping the brake before the springer, one change at a time to see if you like it
@vaughnharris6404
Жыл бұрын
45 years of experience and two bouts in icu and a permanent limp i reccomend you keep front brake....especially on jockey shift really helps on steep incline starts...ya i been riding jockey since i was 17...got my joockey shift shovel sittin in garage right now...
@Mark-sj7lv
Ай бұрын
I drove a 1948 Panhead with the foot clutch and hand shift for 20 years. The hard tail frame, ape hangers and 6 in risers made it one of a kind. I had the open primary, 1.2 in. belt and chain drive. I had a front brake (mandatory in my province) and I found it the best and looked the best. The broads loved it, the look of the bike and my outlaw looks, just belonged together. God bless us all
@greasesgarage
Ай бұрын
This is a great story to remember forever. Thanks for sharing and God bless you
@rcanoli99
3 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS!! flying down that backroad is beautiful madness...bike's got a real mean sound too. psyched to tear down my shovel and join the fun!
@greasesgarage
3 ай бұрын
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@t-bone9403
Жыл бұрын
I have a jockey shift/foot clutch set up on my Roadstar, couldn't imagine riding it without a front brake. Kudos to you brother !
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
No way! That was the first motorcycle I ever rode a jockey shift on! I put over 40k miles on that bike before I sold it. I will always love the road star. Plus it’s so easy to convert that setup to foot clutch, if you’re on Insta send me some pics of your setup
@t-bone9403
Жыл бұрын
@greasesgarage It was so simple. Just mounted the shifter rod to the clutch arm. Had to hack about an inch off the shift rod and tapped and mounted a small L bracket. Then mounted a small tube to the shift arm/lever. 8 ball for a shift knob. Cost me zero to do the conversion. Took some getting used to but I got it down. Several close calls but haven't dropped her yet.
@t-bone9403
Жыл бұрын
@@greasesgarage I have a video of the bike on my channel.
@kneyork9930
Жыл бұрын
I've done both, no front brake and front brake. If one really rides, the front brake is best. Up and down main street, or sticking to the freeway to pose for people, for the "look at me" effect, that's the only reason to "ditch" the front brake. Or to follow the fads. I'd not go with no front brake just to look a little more "cool". However, different strokes for different folks.
@DarksideSleemo
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us how it's done. I ran a jockey shifter for a long time but I never took the front brake off just because it made it so much easier on an incline. Like, I know it can be done but I just didn't want to commit. Also, it's nice to have that extra braking force in an emergency situation. Mad respect to the guys running the full setup though.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Just having the jockey shifter and foot clutch is enough man, it’s all about that feeling of slamming through the gears by hand! Front brake or not that hand shifting action is just so addicting. I can never go back
@kneyork9930
Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit puzzled as to why it's so popular to get rid of a front brake. Just to strike a better pose? Seems like it's more of a "look at me" thing, then having a more capable bike for real riding. ? I realize the whole "chopper" thing has gone into heavy fad-mode, as far as form and function. I don't know, no offense to anyone, just puzzled. :)@@greasesgarage
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@kneyork9930 it’s ok to wonder about this, there isn’t a great answer beyond simplicity. I’m sure back in the day when parts were harder to come by if your brake broke you’d remove it because you couldn’t find another. Maybe that look became a thing. Nowadays they make “spool” wheels that have no rotor mounts and they look very clean. Lighter maybe, less wires and cleaner bars. It’s not for everyone and I never tell people that they have to get rid of theirs, but I do love when I’m switching out my bars and all I do is swap a throttle house onto a new set and job done.
@kneyork9930
Жыл бұрын
Truth, it is a cleaner look. My first Harley, the front brake hardly worked. It would gently-kind of slow me down a little by pulling it as hard as I could. !!! I understand the cleaner look, but for me I'll sacrifice that for a front brake. !@@greasesgarage
@breadgarlichouse2265
6 ай бұрын
simple, looks cleaner
@_AlejandroGonzalez_
8 ай бұрын
So after learning where the term “suicide shifter” came from I now see that it doesn’t make any sense. Like you showed in the video and how I had imagined, the bike just stalls. Very informative and detailed video. Watched the whole thing and I don’t even own a motorcycle lmao.
@greasesgarage
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for checking it out! How did you come across the channel if you don’t mind me asking? Curious how this video found its way to you
@BikesILike
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thoroughly enjoyed it! I always wondered what a foot clutch setup would be like to ride. Will have to try it one day!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy to be spreading the word about how much fun it is to ride a jockey shift bike
@mikef3300
Жыл бұрын
I like the way it cleans up the bars.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
The cleanest bar setup in all of motorcycles man! If you want the ultimate minimalist bars this is the only way to go 🤘🏼
@mattkayem1554
4 ай бұрын
Great video! But it's not a silly myth, I just did some digging around and discovered that the term "suicide clutch" comes from San Francisco because the city has alot of hills and apparently chopper guys back then didn't wanna stop at hilly traffic lights(because they didn't have front brakes and it is cumbersome) so they would just cross through and often got hit by traffic from the crossing road
@malakitity5799
6 ай бұрын
i truly enjoyed this video...and can't wait to get a motorcycle again...
@redneckwithajeep5001
7 ай бұрын
My bike is still setup for foot shift and hand clutch but I still like to keep my left foot on the peg The jokey shift setup always reminds me of my friend Frodo who got his name through the use of a jokey shift an open primary and building the shifter too short. Built everything way to short and lost his ring finger in the primary the second time he had the chopper out. And yes we called the bike Gollum after that.
@greasesgarage
7 ай бұрын
Dang! That’s terrible but also a hilarious way to get the name for the bike 😂
@MrSharkystuff
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video with helpfull tips on riding a bike like this. I'm building one at the moment, so these tips are very much appreciated.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Good luck with the build you’ll love it
@1badombre82
Ай бұрын
I'm planning to do this with my 81 kz650 hardtail build I just did but I'm definitely not taking that front brake off so all this will be much easier for me. Emergency braking is going to be scary enough without being able to quick downshift for engine braking. No way I'm going to make that even less possible by removing the front brake.
@Harsh_Trip
Жыл бұрын
Great video! What are the odds you recently uploaded this, I honestly thought I wasn't gonna find anything. I'm hardtailing my shovelhead and contemplating on running this set up, already running no front brake but gotta decide soon on foot clutch or just hand clutch. Anyway feeling alot more confident about jockey shift now, you addressed all the shit I was worried about. Im in Socal so traffic is a war zone compared to this video but if you get a chance a dedicated riding video with heavier traffic, lane splitting and maybe highway riding along with the commentary would be sick!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the topics were the same ones you were wondering about 🤘🏼 I can def do a video like that, you can also check out my “ridealong” playlist for some more riding videos that all feature this setup and commentary but a dedicated “in traffic” video is on the list
@Harsh_Trip
Жыл бұрын
@@greasesgarage awesome! Will definitely check out your other videos. Thanks again man.
@rockcrawlerchurch2976
Жыл бұрын
I did a foit clutch jockeyshift setup to my fortyeightsporty. Its so much fun. Once you get used to the friction point
@rockcrawlerchurch2976
Жыл бұрын
Very very short friction point on mine. Its on the list to change
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Back the tension nuts off on the clutch hub and it’ll lengthen the friction zone
@benjaminbravo9884
22 күн бұрын
Great video, i was extremely puzzled by the jockey set up and its infamous nickname, now i know is just a extremely noisy and inconvenient car-like transmission put into a bike. It is kinda risky since your taking one hand of the handle bars to shift but definitely not deserving of it's nickname
@JonathanCalkins
2 ай бұрын
This video is 100% correct
@thomasneves5607
Жыл бұрын
This is a great video...I have a full height stick shift on the left side AND use the standard clutch lever... seems very difficult to use but it's not. Speed shifting- match the engine rpms with the clutch and shift away. Down shifting ya still should use the clutch but it's not too bad once ya get the hang of it. Uphill, downhill, stop signs/lights...in traffic..all the same.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow that’s wild I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone run a setup like that
@dbdevkc
10 ай бұрын
When my 4 speed was getting worn I would use the clutch for getting going from a stop. After that it was all slam shifting - up and down ... er ... I mean speed shifter. Man that was fun.
@wanderingwonder111
Жыл бұрын
I'm a dual-sport rider who knows nothing about choppers. This video was an awesome explanation of how to use a jockey shift - but why choose one? Is it the feel,. or the history behind it?
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say I appreciate you even clicking on this video as a non chopper guy. It’s so cool to see other types of riders finding my channel so I’m glad you’re here. As for the why, it’s the exhilaration. The feel of hearing those revs peak as you step on the clutch and smack that shifter back and forth like you were piloting some crusty old ship through a tricky stretch of water. It’s a visceral engagement with the motorcycle, it calls you to master it, to adapt your riding to it. To see nothing in front of you but a set of handlebars and a throttle cable knowing you will take care of the rest through experience and faith. I wish I had a better way to explain the feeling, but I can tell you this. Once you try it, you’ll never go back. Regular riding will lose its flair, it’s excitement, it’s edge. I could never take it off or ride a motorcycle that didn’t have one
@b226tj
Жыл бұрын
I’m still saying Suicide Shifter because it makes me sound like more of a man.(I don’t ride a foot clutch setup anyway)
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Haha love it
@ericlissner5398
Жыл бұрын
I've ran a handshaker,ever since my Brother made me ride his panhead.....my first two motorcycles had hand clutches,and I thought jockey shift was the most irresponsible and dangerous crazy crap ever! That was 1994......about an hour later,I changed my hardtail panhead,with no front brake( cause it looks stupid on a springer) to a handshaker......Lived it ever since! Thanks dude,your videos kick total ass........~E
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I love it! A full conversion. That’s so awesome man thank you for sharing this story. Now I’m trying to remember what made me try it. I think it was reading cycle source and the horse after getting my first bike and seeing them across the pages of features and wondering what that would be like. That and I loved the clean bars I saw in every bike in the mags.
@zachegelhoff4783
Жыл бұрын
Great video man! Working on a custom foot clutch setup for my iron barrel Royal Enfield 500. Wish I had a trans like that to work with but the tips in this video are spot on. Thanks again for all you do for the community!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
My first foot clutch was a Yamaha road star so I know how it goes with the whole “working with what’s there” side, it does suck when it’s not in as convenient a location. Is it at least on the correct side? I’m not too familiar with the royal enfields
@zachegelhoff4783
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have linkage converting my shifter to the left hand side luckily. Thanks previous owner! Going to fab up a bracket for the shifter arm tonight and use the existing foot peg mounting location to mount my clutch ⛓️next is to make some floorboards! Scraping those turns!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@zachegelhoff4783 gotta scrape them boards man!! 😂 heavy lean
@midnightmc3096
Жыл бұрын
Road Star 👍@@greasesgarage A
@OldeThunderCC
8 ай бұрын
Been running my setup for a while now and am loving it! Thanks to you I made my own videos. Too bad my go pro mount sheared off last ride trying to film my hand shifting! Damn potholes! Keep it up buddy!
@downtofun
Жыл бұрын
Super informative, thanks for making it!
@dylanr13
Жыл бұрын
Great video I have accidentally stalled my bike at a intersection embarrassing but never flew out into traffic.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Haha we have all been there. Glad to hear another confirmation that the flying into traffic thing is a myth
@csj9619
Жыл бұрын
I should watch the entire video before commenting, BUT... I feel there's a distinction to be made. Although I admit, it sounds impossible to ride with no hold spring on the clutch pedal, I was taught a "suicide clutch" has no spring to hold the pedal down, whereas a "jockey clutch" does have a spring to keep the clutch pedal depressed without having your foot on the pedal. Right or wrong, that's likely what most think.
@briana3467
11 ай бұрын
I owned a jockey shift pan for a number of years, but I always enjoyed riding my super glide more. Right shift,left shift, tank shift,front brake,no brake,it certainly pays to know how to ride them all.
@panheadsforever74
Жыл бұрын
Love the video, i really dig ur bike man. My pan doesn't have a rachet top i have to FIND the gears thats really fun
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks frank 🙏🏼 I’ve always wanted to try that style of shifter, I’ve never gotten to ride with one
@leeelzorhodessr
3 ай бұрын
Wow,thank you for your help setting the video and info about the jockey shift setup. It was a idea that I was struggling with, I now will be doing a jockey setup for my 1999 dyna super custom and will follow the directions you have made available in video to move forward in learning how to operate the ("GREASE SHIFT ")... ELZO RHODES
@greasesgarage
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching brotha glad to hear it helped! Once you go hand shift you never go back 🤘🏼
@SaddleTrampTV
Жыл бұрын
Never liked the term "suicide" clutch or shift. Working on my shovel now. Trying my bestest at making it into a jockey / foot clutch bike. Didn't realize I was going to be modifying my wiring so soon when I started to xnay my electric start. Waiting on a few parts to come in and should be trying it out.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man! Can’t wait to see what you come up with 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@acadianwanderer7352
6 ай бұрын
Suicidal Clutch The reason the term ‘suicide clutch’ came about is that with such a set up, one can't stop on an steep (upward) incline at a street light, stop sign or for any other reasons unless he has a buddy riding along behind who would put his front tire against his rear wheel to hold the motorcycle from rolling back. Back in the late 50s and 60s, the older boys in my neighbourhood were chopping down Harley trikes and side cars bought at police auctions. *(I remember my first summer riding with a three speed forward one reverse tranny, badass & sweet.) In those days, every custom parts we had to fabricate ourselves, all home made. When we ‘crazed out’ about raking & extending the stock springer forks (especially with girder links) and tube forks (P.F. Easy Rider), for cosmetic & stylistic reasons, the front brake assembly was removed altogether. It made for a clean looking front end and lightened the bike by few pounds. It didn’t take us too long to realize how impossible it was to stop on a steep upward hill, for a street light, a stop sign or any other reasons (few got killed for not stopping & running the red light) unless a buddy riding along behind would put his front tire against the rear wheel and hold the motorcycle from rolling back. Riding alone was potentially ‘suicidal’ hence the term ‘suicide clutch’. I agree with you, dumping the clutch intentionally or accidentally never came close to kill someone, laughable. But never was the reason or motive for the term “suicide clutch”. I’ve heard that idiotic argument (you call a ‘myth’) too many times from the younger ‘biker’ crowd. Another harmless but foolish illusion from the same age group, is to label such setting a ‘suicide shifter’. There’s nothing suicidal about a hand shifter.(see Note 1) My own ride is a custom built (2008), (Rolling Thunder) softail chopper frame, 4 speed tranny, kick starter, an S & S shovelhead (93ci) with foot clutch and jockey shift and yes front disc brakes. I just love it. But having a ‘foot clutch’ & an ‘hand shifter’, like mine doesn’t make it a ‘suicide clutch’. There is nothing suicidal about a hand shift and/or a foot clutch combination. To use the term ‘suicide clutch’ rightly, you have to have these 4 things on a bike: 1) 2 wheels (no side car or trike) 2) A ‘foot clutch’ 3) A ‘hand shift stick’ 4) *NO FRONT BRAKES* (just like yours) Hand shifting a motorcycle is not that dangerous (or difficult) and it’s ‘cool’. But without the front brakes, it could be ‘tricky’ to say the least. I rarely see anyone today riding without front brakes like you do. You are obviously very good at it, still try to avoid the “seven hills” of San Francisco if riding alone. Stay safe… ps: I lived through this and that is my story. People can say or call it ‘suicide’ clutch or shifter’ or whatever, no harm done. Just keep on riding... Note 1: There are many different types of hand shifter types in the after market world. One is called a ‘suicide shifter’. The clutch lever is on the shifter (stick). Very awkward, and dangerous in first gear at low speed. Not for everyone. Note 2: The ‘rocker foot clutch’ is something else again. Note 3: Riding a custom motorcycle without front brakes with a hand shifter/foot clutch and rigid frame may be illegal in some jurisdictions and/or against insurance policies. Note 4: The hand shift stick usually on/by the left side of the gas tank and the ‘jockey’ type shifter which is linked directly to the tranny on most HD motorcycles. It’s named or called a ‘jockey shift’ because the rider to change gears must reached behind his left leg similar to a race jockey whipping his horse.
@greasesgarage
6 ай бұрын
An incredibly detailed and well put together response. Blessed to have you here watching this channel to share these stories with the younger generation. I appreciate you taking the time to pass this info on! The community needs more people like you who want to share what they know. Thank you 🙏🏼
@acadianwanderer7352
6 ай бұрын
I forgot about your backwards shifting. Never crossed my mind doing such a thing. Food for thought. Like couple more little things I learned from watching your video, appreciated. Your life will never be boring, trust me…
@greasesgarage
6 ай бұрын
Yea I wish it shifted the other way but this is how the rotary top was set up and I’ve retrained my brain now so I can’t change again haha
@andrewlufi7659
Жыл бұрын
The term that we will not mention also came from while you are riding and have to take your hand off the handlebar to shift and therefore do not have complete control of the bike when you hit something in the rode. At the time these shifters were common on bikes, most rides were not paved and poorly maintained.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that term be tethered to that as well. Its interesting though because people often call that “tank shift” which I think is an accurate term for those factory style shifters where the lower setups got the ol term that will not be named hahah. Both require you to remove a hand from the bars but only one got the stigma
@thehatchetwarrior808
Жыл бұрын
The way I see it with the sudden releasing of the ratchet clutch is someone, somewhere had it happen and just panicked because they were chilling at a light or something hands completely off the bars. They didn't set the clutch friction point right or set it super high and it didn't fully release just started pulling the bike a little bit and they panic grabbed a handful of throttle. Just my 2 cents regarding the myth. Awesome video though! Maybe because an old crusty biker taught me how to ride, the whole turn your head when making a u-turn is second nature to me at this point. Dabbing a foot always feels to me like I'm going to get my foot trapped under the bike or something.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Totally could be. That’s a good way to see it. And yes I agree man. With floorboards I never put my foot down cause it’ll take your leg off
@TinaAustin-w8e
9 ай бұрын
I ride foot clutch tank shit evo but made it so hand clutch canbe used at stops
@michaelmeyers3313
Ай бұрын
Great video! So in 1978 when I was 18 years old I bought a 41 Knucklehead with a rocker clutch and tank shifter. The shop I bought it from was at the bottom of a hill with a gravel driveway. I can't remember how many trys it took to get to the top of the hill, but the old timers told me it's the only way to learn. Years later I had a shovel with a jockey shift. Now I'm 64 and I'm building a rigid frame shovelhead chopper with a jockey shift. But I'm cheating a little and running a front brake. Can't wait to get it finished and have some fun on it.
@greasesgarage
Ай бұрын
That’s awesome! You’ve got something none of us younger guys will ever have. To have grown up at a time when those bikes were around and available to an 18 year old. What a beautiful memory to have. I’m jealous! No worries on the front brake though, it’s still every bit as cool as running without one. Glad to hear you’re still jockey shifting that’s inspiring. The comments section here is very divided on it but for guys like you and me, there’s no other way. God bless you, ride safe
@4570duplex
9 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! As a certifiable old codger (mid sixties) who has been riding for awhile (since 1976) and has owned my fair share of foot clutch, hand shift bikes, I have to say this brings me back. I love seeing younger guys exploring "the old ways" and learning your impressions of them. I find it hilarious, but satisfying in some odd sort of way, to see the renewed interest in all of this. Back when I was young and poor, me and my buddies rode setups like this because we couldn't afford anything else (read: newer) so we just learned to adapt and live with it. The original heel-toe setups were often in disrepair, so we cobbled them into what you show here. The tank shifter linkages would wear and get sloppy, so we would tear them off and put a handle under our asses, like you show here. All out of necessity, because we couldn't afford to repair them to original condition. We just wanted to ride. Now, some fifty years later, the whole thing has taken on some "retro cool" aura, with you young guys actually SPENDING MONEY to do this to otherwise perfectly good motorcycles. 😉 I think that's funnier than hell. In a good way - you guys are having fun! Keep up the good work!
@greasesgarage
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! I’m lucky enough to have had an old timer in our area tell me the same story about how parts used to be harder to get and so out of necessity the shifter right off the trans was born. Now that I’ve ridden like this for 6 years I’ll never ride a regular shift bike again. It’s just too much fun this way. Thanks for checking out the channel I’m proud to have made a video that can be enjoyed by my generation and yours. Ride safe 🙏🏼
@4570duplex
9 ай бұрын
Wow, that was fast! Ah, speaking of when "parts used to be harder to get"... When I think of the value today of parts we just threw away because they were "worthless" back then, or today's value of the bikes that suffered our ham-fisted, bone-headed "modifications" if they were still in original condition... yikes... I would like to add just one thing, hoping like hell that I don't come off as all "preachy" or anything: Front brakes. Big, capable front brakes. I know, I know, front ends look so much better without them, handlebars look so much better without any levers. I get it, I really do. But they have saved my life more than once. I learned to really use them in my road racing days (Ducatis, not Harleys, and I still ride my last race bike today). When that deer jumps out in front of you, when that distracted teenager on her cell phone in mommy's Prius makes the left turn from the oncoming lane in front of you... Anyway, enough of that. You really did an excellent job showing how these things work, and dispelling the myths. Especially the "suicide" thing. About the only danger to us was the guy behind us that got pissed off if we ever killed it at an intersection. Because, you see, all of our bikes only had kickers, and if we killed 'em, everybody behind us got to watch us TRY to restart them... good times... @@greasesgarage
@pnhedgeezer
Жыл бұрын
For your viewers. Just pay attention to what you’re doing when you’ve been riding a jockey shift for a long while and you get on a regular shifting bike. Especially if you’re riding with someone else and bullshitting at a light. When the light turns green the clutch is no longer the clutch. lol… the stall start is a real thing lol. Been riding a 75 shovelhead kick only jockey for a long while.
@kneyork9930
Жыл бұрын
Decent video, and I've been riding a foot clutch forever. Like 40 years at least. I do think a front brake is kind of a good thing with a foot-clutch, on steep hills, but I guess if one does not have one, not gonna put one on. ! I brake with my front 98% of the time, so I've got two reasons. Yes, at one time I rode with rear brake only. Been there done that. I've always used the "jockey top" on the tranny, and not the ratchet shifter. So I've always thought of the ratchet top shifter as "something else". Don't know what, but maybe just where I live. But at one time the old-style shifter-top was the "jockey top" . Not that it matters and of course terminology changes. I especially like that you pointed out that if you do get off balance, just stall the bike. I've seen a few drop their bikes while learning, because they are frantically trying to find neutral and get it out of gear. Anyhow, good job. :)
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks brotha, really appreciate the feedback. Yes I do think terminology has changed. As it’s been described to me there are “cowpie” or “rotary top” transmissions which is what I’ve got. These are late model model Shovelhead transmissions. Second is the “ratchet top” transmission, the early Shovelhead transmissions. These have the circular plate on the trans that accepts the 3 screws for the shifter. This is the most common transmission for jockey shift because it’s easier to fabricate a shifter mount. Lastly there’s the jockey lid you’re describing. The older knucklehead version where you manually engage each gear as opposed to just going forward or back. I’d love to try one of these but they’re so expensive nowadays
@kneyork9930
Жыл бұрын
What I like about the older style, which I have/always had is that I don't have to click back through the gears, just one motion to go back to neutral or first, you can "skip" third, second, N. However, I've never had the ratchet top...so don't really know which is best. I think, or would guess the old style is easier on the tranny, but don't actually know that either. Thank you for your replies. @@greasesgarage
@ly7904
Жыл бұрын
Sorry my English is not so good , I want to know that when you need to do an emergency brake , you want to stop within the shortest possible distance , so you have to hit the brake on your right foot , hit the clutch on your left foot , hold the bike keep the balance to make sure it won't fall , these actions need to be done quickly almost at the same time , but when you trying to keep the balance , you often need one of your foot to support on the ground , but all your feet are busy at that time , how you guys deal with that situation on that kinda motorcycles ? especially you do all these actions in a tight bend .
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I show several emergency brake stops in the video where I lock up the rear brake
@cameroncunningham687
Жыл бұрын
I got two things to say. Why does it sound like that? If they all sound like that I’m out. And another thing why would you want one a hand clutch just seems a lot more efficient lol.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the setup isn’t going to be for you, the sound is explained in the comments though
@tellytruth8554
Жыл бұрын
With age and health issues, I'm leaning toward a trike conversion (90s Springer) and with less left hand grip strength, I'm thinking of a jockey shift/foot clutch. Seems like a great setup given I would not need to put feet down. Thoughts? Great vid!
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I think that would be the best of all worlds! No worrying about not being able to keep both feet up, no tired hands from holding a heavy clutch, more thrilling ride slamming through the gears…what’s not to love 🤘🏼
@psilocybe_reptiliensis
2 ай бұрын
challenging for sure
@TheSoftSins
Жыл бұрын
What’s your position on holding on the hill with your clutch instead of your quick switch method?
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I can’t say for certain that it would wear out the clutch beyond having been told that it would for as long as I’ve been riding. Particularly with the dry clutch I probably wouldn’t risk it because I could see the friction doing a number on the plates. The quick shift method has been working for me so I’ll stick with this but if you do have good luck with the clutch hold method I’d like to know about it and how long it’s been working. Maybe there is something to it
@anthonysmalawipredators8794
Жыл бұрын
That brake grabs hard as hell lol skids every time😂
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
It’s those speed bleeders man! They make it so easy to get that thing totally air tight
@jeffshootsstuff
10 ай бұрын
Great video. You teased at the beginning that you were going to talk about not only stopping on inclines but also on declines. But never showed that. Is anything different?
@greasesgarage
10 ай бұрын
Ah I know I was so bummed that footage didn’t come out right! As for the technique, you always want to find neutral before stopping on a downhill because if you end up having to sit there a while, you’ll need to keep your foot on the rear brake pedal so being in neutral is the way to go
@jeffshootsstuff
10 ай бұрын
@@greasesgarage Thanks for the reply. Hope your channel gets the attention it deserves.
@greasesgarage
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that brotha thank you
@normangraber1047
Жыл бұрын
Owned a '48 EL back in the '60's(No front brake) had the original hand shift tranny lid. Didn't have the money to get a ratchet top. Stopping at a traffic light on a hill was a hoot. If you were packing a passenger she would invariably shift that ass to the right while you were stopped, generating a whole new problem. Since I was running a short rear fender sometimes if you timed it right you could ease back and rest against the bumper of the car behind you, cram it into gear and be gone before the driver realized what was happening. Still riding but disc brakes and tubeless tires were the best thing to happen to motorcycles.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s rad man! What a time to be alive. Such cool vehicles back then. I hear you on the disc brakes tho, if I’m running only a rear brake it better be a disc! Tubeless tires are awesome cause they’re easily patched but I just never cared for the mag wheel look.
@yourrealmotobro
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I’m dreaming from the last three years on going Canada CostToCost on a jockey shift chopper or old bobber. This is going to be the year I think. What’s your bike?
@greasesgarage
9 ай бұрын
Sounds like an awesome trip! I hope you make it happen man 🤘🏼 my bike is a 1994 evo softail that’s been heavily modified
@TinaAustin-w8e
9 ай бұрын
I ride 1996 evo foot clutch tank shift i built so you can use hand clutch at stops a nd front brake on hills
@greasesgarage
9 ай бұрын
That’s awesome 👏🏼
@charlesgentry3758
Ай бұрын
Bro u grinding the shit out of it.
@greasesgarage
Ай бұрын
Out of what
@larryhubert8101
9 ай бұрын
What is that horrible? grinding? sound every time you push in the clutch
@greasesgarage
9 ай бұрын
Hahah that is the dry clutch, it’s the plates chattering together. All dry clutches have that noise
@brianwinters4991
Жыл бұрын
They are fun to drive , I've been driving like that for 45 years !
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
The internet wouldn’t be able to believe someone could ride one of these that long and still be alive 😂 that’s awesome tho man it’s the BEST way to ride
@alfajuj
Жыл бұрын
I've tried my friend's old police shovelhead with the stock rocker clutch and hand shift, and I think the toe-to-go clutch action is harder to modulate and a lot less intuitive than the car-type quick clutch that you're using. You can plant your heel on the board and have a pivot point. With the rocker clutch, you're whole foot is in the air. But with practice I'm sure you can get used to anything.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Very well said. I agree completely
@TFE_LLC
Жыл бұрын
No front brake just seems like a horrible decision.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
It’s not for everyone
@nobbiedronemovies427
10 ай бұрын
ukley sound when you change gear
@axerockcafe
Жыл бұрын
I never used this setup and probably never will, hell I don't even have a bike rn (waiting for a full knee replacement) but this video was so good, so well explained and a pleasure to watch that I've subscribed just for this video alone. Well done bro. Ride safe y'all.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Wow I really appreciate this message man 🙏🏼thank you for giving the video a chance even in your situation I’m glad to hear it came across as clear as I had hoped 🤘🏼
@MrCthieke
Жыл бұрын
I have the jocky setup. I have yet to take the time toput it on. I ride a supercharged 1989 tourglide
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
That would be a very unusual bike for that setup, the world needs to see it!
@Nguyenuc-lx7fr
Ай бұрын
I’m from VN, on my view foot clutch is just like drive a car with Manual Transmission. Love it, will try it someday soon. Thanks for your video❤❤❤❤
@tonyhenley8284
Жыл бұрын
Just my two cents on the subject. I’ve never known anyone personally who has died or came close from a Jockey setup. I would agree that most people who parrot those danger warnings probably haven’t either. You are correct that at a stop if you dump the clutch you aren’t going anywhere. When I was tying to teach my son to ride he was slowing down to make a turn and because of his inexperience and nervousness he forgot to downshift. When slowing down from 4th gear, regardless of clutch type if your clutch isn’t engaged the motorcycle will eventually start lunging back and forth. I’ve seen it cause my son to inadvertently give the throttle a twist which caused him to miss the turn and hit a ditch. All as a result of inexperience. I’m sure accidents happened that caused someone somewhere to be injured or maybe even killed. It wasn’t in my opinion the jockey shift to blame but inexperience. But for someone who heard the story passed on by a couple dozen people blamed the shifter setup and it just keeps getting worse the more the story is told.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Very good point Tony, the story escalates each time it’s told until it takes on a life of its own
@hatchetman-ue5qy
Жыл бұрын
Love the vid and your bike is badass !! Anyway I'm sortof new to the chopper/bobber scene so if this is a dumb question just tell me so.... I noticed you have no mirrors, and also no front brake (obviously) I've also seen alot of other old school type bikes with out turn signals, speedometers, etc. How do you pass a state safety inspection or get the bike registered ? Are they just fine with all that stuff missing because its such an old bike or a modified/ home-built vehicle ?
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
This is a great question actually, with an answer you may not like haha. The answer is no, they are not ok with it and you won’t get an inspection sticker with a bike like this. We all have our own line we’re willing to cross and not cross, I’ve had nothing but positive interactions when getting pulled over and most understand it’s a vintage bike and send me on my way but they could just as easily decide to give me a hard time if they chose to. It’s a risk I accept but I would never tell anyone else to do anything they’re not comfortable with.
@hatchetman-ue5qy
Жыл бұрын
But then how do you get a license plate when youre finished with your build and ready to ride it ? Like if you didn't start with a donor bike, and got a frame, engine, and transmission all from different bikes, how do you get a new plate the first time you register it ?@@greasesgarage
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@hatchetman-ue5qyso it sounds like we’re talking about two different things, or at least where I live they are two different things. Here in NH registering a bike is something you do at your DMV with a bill of sale and a title (title not required if vehicle is 20 years old) and that title goes with the frame so in your example of piecing the bike together you’d have a frame with a title or get a vin verification form if it has no title. Once the bike is registered you get your plate. The inspection is a whole separate process that you do once a year.
@hatchetman-ue5qy
Жыл бұрын
Oh ok, that makes sense, thanks for the info @@greasesgarage
@lethalsparrow
9 күн бұрын
also if i remember correctly, didn't the original term "suicide clutch" come from LA back in the 70s? I feel like their hills and traffic might have played a role in that.
@Helm-w1q
Жыл бұрын
I bought a 75 with a " tank shifter " last year offered. Still own and ride it. I have a "rocker clutch pedal ". This is completely different from this set up. My self I like people getting the two systems confused,no one, and I mean no one has tried to steal my bike. They fear the shifter. Keep the shiney side up.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! You too brotha ride safe have fun
@mickey-eq5vw
5 ай бұрын
i never felt the need to put foot down just like he said turn your head n gas out of the turn
@SikterEfendi
Жыл бұрын
Coming up next, "How to drive a Ford Model T?". All skills no one wants to acquire and those who do already acquired them.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
My buddy told me “you’ll know your channel is gaining momentum when random people start leaving negative comments” 😂 Thank you for the reassurance 🙏🏼
@ridinoutlaw
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips and tricks..I want to do this on my 1991 FXRS..My understanding was it was "suicide shifting" because you take your hand off the bars.?
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
No problem man, hope you can give it a shot!
@ludwigvonbuzzthoven
Жыл бұрын
This clip randomly showed up in my feed; before today, I had never seen this channel before. Great stuff, and maybe the best tutorial on this I’ve ever seen. I’m not building a chopper right now, and probably never will. But I’m subscribing because I like learning about things I can’t and may never learn to do.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this comment man, thank you for the kind words and for checking out the channel. I’m glad to hear the delivery is working and making it simple 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@podthewelder
Жыл бұрын
Jockey shift and no front break on my 49 Pan is absolutely awesome!! 🏍🤙🍻
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Living life on the edge man, that’s awesome!
@ronhogan9988
Ай бұрын
Great vid! *Note* The whole sui clutch/shift term evolved due to non riders as well as inexperienced and unconfident riders fear of one hand riding.
@CaseyJohnston-fk6bi
Ай бұрын
Think of it as shifting a tractor, especially if the clutch is on the shift, knob not the foot. You can also put your front brake on the left and clutch on your throttle hand, but that is a skill of its own. I habe a dirt bike i habe to drop the clutch to turn it off i habe not instaled a kil switch on it ever
@joecrazy7158
11 ай бұрын
Did it for a couple of years(year round), on a Panhead in a knuckle frame. Not real bad though, because Chicago is flat. However, your's was a ratchet shift, mine was the old direct shift, sometimes better, sometimes worse. BTW, that Panhead would keep going, if the clutch was popped, right into the side of a VW. Happened to the previous owner(150lbs?), I saw it. The heel toe also might start going, because it never pops, but it engaged slowly. So, I for one, disagree with you, but I'll give you a way out. Maybe depends on sprockets, or flywheels(Panhead). Thanks for even showing this stuff.
@greasesgarage
11 ай бұрын
I could see that if the disengagement was slow as you mentioned. Makes sense. That would be a dangerous thing
@justlovelyaintit
9 күн бұрын
What ' s the point? Especially no front brake? To look tough?😢😢😢
@tugnchug1508
4 ай бұрын
The myth of "suicide clutch" comes from the fact that in San Fran people riding without front brakes would tend to run the red lights on the uphill to avoid having to stop and a good few of these guys got wiped out from the crossing traffic that had a green light.....
@jimkraft9445
11 ай бұрын
I had a 1942 "45" Flat head with a broken front brake cable when I was 14 back in 1955. Stopping for a stop light on a hill was always exciting. But the thing was, those clutches stayed where you put them. All I had to do when I stopped, was shift to low and rock the clutch. Then put my left foot down, and hold the rear break with my right foot. When the light changed, I simultaneously, took my right foot off the brake, and put it down while I operated the clutch with my left foot and tried not to kill it. When you are 14 you can do anything. My 99 Softail Custom is much easier. Maybe not as much fun, but for an old 83 year old works quite well. I still think I could ride a jockey shift no problem. Or maybe not.
@greasesgarage
11 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! I’ve always wanted to try out one of those setups, especially the positional shifter. Seems so different. Really appreciate the story though, I bet you could still do it too, it’s like riding a bike! A dangerous but fun bike
@jimkraft9445
11 ай бұрын
I have also ridden Brit bikes, Triumphs, with the right side shift. The first Sportsters and K models had right side shift. I started riding when I was 8 years old on a friends Whizzer Motor bike. I was hooked the first time I let the clutch out and it carried me away. I rode an 84 Iron head Sportster for 23 years. Had a lot of different bikes over the years. My oldest Son built His bike from the ground up. He is a CNC machinist, and made many of his own parts. He put an S@S 113 in it. He started with a Deuce frame.
@aabee-io2cs
4 ай бұрын
Is there a reason (other than looks) why there is no handlever operated front brake? Would make things alot easier in hill starts😂
@tylerakerfeldt7220
3 ай бұрын
I imagine that suicide shift rumor started with some dummies revving at the lights and the clutch slipped and they had enough rpm to launch them out
@boxcarbro3043
Жыл бұрын
Def did not realize open primaries are loud like that.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Some are louder than others, mine seems to be louder than everyone else’s lol
@Mississippigunclub
4 ай бұрын
What bars are you running? Spanks!
@greasesgarage
4 ай бұрын
Just your standard 10” apes eBay specials haha, I think they were like $60
@gabbyhayes4561
Жыл бұрын
This is a machine. Like all machines it takes time and practice to learn how to operate em. Some machines are more dangerous than others. This one is one of em. No front brake , no mirror..??? Ride safe my brothers and sisters. MAGA 🇺🇸😎
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! We all have our own personal line, some people wouldn’t dream of riding a bike without an inspection, and some (like me) have gone way off the deep end and ride bikes like this 🤣 Thanks for checking out the channel brotha!
@Mississippigunclub
Ай бұрын
Yo my man! Your videos have been alotta help! I dont think people understand how hard it is to ride suicide and no front brake! Just got my choppa done. Learning day by day! Thanks for the content
@greasesgarage
Ай бұрын
Happy to help brotha it gets much easier 🤘🏼
@stevenflauding9010
Жыл бұрын
good content that is.
@N3tTurbino
7 ай бұрын
Actually what makes me nervous is... missing front brake
@buckhornz2184
Жыл бұрын
G'day buddy, on my 78 shovelhead I have my pedal connected to a mousetrap with a 13 inch lever bolted to the mousetrap that comes up next to the gas tank which is handy if I want to put the left foot down while in gear ( great for hill starts) also it takes the weight of the pedal off the push rod and I made the whole shebang with stainless steel. I also built a suicide clutch and jockey shift for my ironhead sportster which is another story. Cheers buddy and thanks for the veelogs, I'm watching from the deep south of New Zealand.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man, what a rad setup! Would love to see that mousetrap shoot me some pics if you’re on instagram. New Zealand looks awesome, I have a few swannys I got from back when they were still made in NZ, incredible stuff.
@buckhornz2184
Жыл бұрын
@@greasesgarage G,day buddy, no Instagram or any of the others I don't even possess a cellphone (cellphones are a spy) but look on flickr home page and put in - Oamaru airport drags - and it should be the first bike on the page, black with 18inch bars and 3inch belt tap on the pic. and expand it. Yes the old Swannies are great I've got a 100 percent wool black zip up made in NZ jacket that's quite heavy along with a couple of the more traditional ones. Cheers buddy and I hope you find it.
@kennethlodwig4024
6 ай бұрын
I was so ready to watch this video, but the preamble was too long.
@PappysCycles
Ай бұрын
New riders can also think about getting the Recluse clutch with behind the leg shifter
@ykmalachi
Жыл бұрын
What about all the talking down on everyone else who does not have this set up? I feel under represented here.
@greasesgarage
Жыл бұрын
I don’t see that happening in my area but it could be your area is different. All I hear in my area is people talking about this setup being dumb and dangerous and why would you want it etc
@TheArtisanRBenjamin
4 ай бұрын
Bro.....your throttle cable isn't even properly installed You have modified your bike with cheap parts and it shows You got used to it Stop trying to convince others to be as reckless as you are I have a jockey shift bobber.......nothing about your setup is "solid"
@greasesgarage
4 ай бұрын
You’re the only one that seems bothered by it lol, everyone else here is just enjoying the video and I certainly enjoy riding it. Sad for you
@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King
5 ай бұрын
Can we agree, though, that “Suicide shifter” sounds metal as hell?
@greasesgarage
5 ай бұрын
Hahah it does
@frankvanhoorde6340
5 ай бұрын
Suicide Is Painless - Johnny Mandel (no metall but🎶) 😊
@frankvanhoorde6340
5 ай бұрын
Suicide Is Painless - Johnny Mandel (no metal tho🎶) 😜
@frankvanhoorde6340
5 ай бұрын
@greasesgarage Suicide Is Painless - Johnny Mandel (no metal tho 🎶) 😜
@jackwillson8099
23 күн бұрын
Got my first 56 pan with this set up 36 years ago ,only difference? Is i had a 18" over front springer,with 40 degree rake with rear drum break ,you got stock wheel base big difference! I don't use a rod for clutch I use a chain & don't use neutral lol
@greasesgarage
22 күн бұрын
Love it
@HeyNoah
Ай бұрын
Love Jockey shifters.. only thing about no front brake though is if you have to stop on a hill for whatever reason (at a light or something). Kinda sketchy. You di cover that though.. just gotta be quick with it! Awesome video as always!
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