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@YetAnotherJenn
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I was unaware they existed and it seems to be more my organizational style. Pinterest is now more advertisements than resources/sharing ideas and I find it not nearly as helpful as it has been in the past. Have a lovely day dear! Thank you! 😊
@hannahcollins1816
3 ай бұрын
I love that "Mr. Himself" wants a touch of whimsy in his Victorian outfit
@ulla.umlaut
3 ай бұрын
For costumes where maybe the _impression_ of the thing is more important than screen or historical accuracy, I sometimes ask people I know to describe the thing once I'm in the research hole, but haven't started making firm decisions. I call this the "Swiss Miss Effect." If you ask 10 people to describe the hot chocolate mascot without looking it up, you will get a description of something between the St Pauli girl, the standard German dirndl-ish costume-in-a-bag, and the actual mascot. Colors, hairstyle, actual clothing style, it'll be all over the board, but it'll give you a good idea of what generalities or details people associate with what you're looking for, so you don't end up having to explain your costume eleventy million times. That said, I often still dive deep into specific references and spend far too much time and effort on them, so even if people "get" the costume, I'm GOING TO TELL THEM ABOUT IT!
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
Oh, I love that term, the "Swiss Miss Effect!" That's clever. And very helpful at times; especially in costumes based on something very stylised (like a character drawn in a very unrealistic art style), letting the Swiss Miss effect carry you through can lead to the costume looking a lot more naturalistic, if that's what you're going for (sort of the opposite of folks replicating cell shading in their makeup, I suppose). Like, you don't need to worry about it looking EXACTLY how it looked, so long as everyone agrees you look like what you're going for.
@myladycasagrande863
3 ай бұрын
Your intended/expected audience can also make a difference in how much detail or specificity goes into your costume. For example, a Princess Leia costume for Halloween just needs to have the right impression, but if it's for a Star Wars convention you might want to go more screen accurate because you'll be surrounded by geeks who will know if it's off. Similarly, there's a difference between a gown for an 1860's ball with historical reenactors and fashion experts vs. a "generic Victorian ball gown".
@Yotam1703
3 ай бұрын
Wait-- does this mean we can expect an 1860s menswear project in our future?
@Chibihugs
3 ай бұрын
This is so helpful for newbies and for those who are nervous to explore a new era of fashion!! Thank you
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
That's awesome to hear! I am always so nervous and stressed about new eras at first, so I made this with folks like me in mind :)
@AshLG
3 ай бұрын
I'm lucky to have been able to add "mention time period/costume category to costuming friends, receive info dump of relevant sources" to my research process. Although there's nothing like arguing about which Regency tailoring manual is the least annoying to add a couple of weeks to your project
@curiousfirely
3 ай бұрын
Ah ha ha! This is how you know you are surrounding yourself with the right kind of people. 😊
@katwitanruna
3 ай бұрын
We don’t need no stinking bookmarks! Real people just leave five million windows open!
@lajoyous1568
3 ай бұрын
🤣 guilty
@leemasters3592
3 ай бұрын
what do you mean your browser only supports 100 tabs at a time!
@ultimateskillchain
3 ай бұрын
excuse me, those are my *emotional support* 67 chrome tabs 🤣💀
@OscelotTheCat
3 ай бұрын
If I close them they stop existing and I forget they were ever there!
@OcarinaSapphr-
3 ай бұрын
@@leemasters3592 *500+ tabs boss-music...*
@meowdee
3 ай бұрын
With the ever increasing use of AI, make sure that a given picture is actually from the time period you’re researching! I’ve seen AI pictures being tagged as historical, looking fine - but more knowledgeable folks will notice many non historical details (hairdos, silhouettes, accessories, etc etc).
@hannahcollins1816
3 ай бұрын
One of the many things I wish AI was required to stay out of - history!
@fairygrove3928
3 ай бұрын
Yes! I've seen this a lot when trying to research historical art and fashion. A few months back, I was trying to find pictures of art nouveau art. I wanted both historical pictures, as well as modern renditions of art nouveau....and I got TONS of AI images. I really wish there was a filter on google images to remove all of the AI results! It also worries me how many kids (and adults) will have a warped view of history (and nature, and a bunch of other things) because so many image results will be AI. Those AI images can be generated so quickly, and therefore they rapidly drown out real art and pictures!
@Justine_-fy5ul
3 ай бұрын
Was looking for someone to comment exactly this! Thank you, so true! Using physical resources like manuals and books can help.
@begemotowa
3 ай бұрын
@@fairygrove3928 you can actually filter AI results by filtering out images made after 2021. It's not ideal, but it's fast.
@PaperTiger
3 ай бұрын
If you set the advanced search to look for images from before 2023, that filters out most of the AI!
@esthermcafee5293
3 ай бұрын
Another resource that goes back further than you might think is department store catalogues. Some are scanned and online, while you may have to go to the library for others. It’s a great way to get an overview of everything from underwear to outerwear for a particular time.
@blueocean43
3 ай бұрын
Adverts in newspapers too can be an interesting resources, I looked at a lot of adverts for my edwardian bust girdle (and still ended up just copying the one in the V&A), as they tended to say what variety of issue they were solving so I could base my choice on what an Edwardian woman shaped like me would have looked for.
@esthermcafee5293
3 ай бұрын
@@blueocean43 Based on my age and measurements the Eatons catalogue puts me right into the ‘stout matrons’ section. It’s hilarious and *sad trombone noises* at the same time.
@Earthenfist
3 ай бұрын
And don't forget- if it's in ONE library, it's in ALL libraries. Talk to your local librarians, and they can get you access to a LOT more than what's kept in the local physical building.
@juliaforsyth8332
3 ай бұрын
@@esthermcafee5293 I know your pain. Sigh.
@Laura55sere
3 ай бұрын
I remember many moons ago researching for a child’s costume for my son’s visit to a Tudor Mansion (U.K.) with his school, didn’t have google then , I had to go to the library . Made his costume all good fun.
@E_FoxSnowspirit
3 ай бұрын
Wonderful!
@EmilyRafferty
3 ай бұрын
ah the good ol library days! honestly kinda miss em lol
@astreaward6651
3 ай бұрын
I am 100% percent serious when I say that you taught me how to draft and sew a kirtle. I hadn't done anything medieval until then and I had never drafted a pattern of any kind and somehow ended up making a kirtle that fit me well and looked good. I usually make mid to late Victorian stuff and use a combination of everything you talk about in this video, but in that one particular instance, watching your videos walked me through the process! ♥
@genevarockeman9721
3 ай бұрын
"...Princess Leia wasn't in episode 1...that was a bad example." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ❤
@isabelleblanchet3694
3 ай бұрын
It's okay, for Xenials like me, Episode 4 will always be the 1st movie.
@katwitanruna
3 ай бұрын
@@isabelleblanchet3694 I was about to say, she was in the first movie *I* saw! 😂
@Sean-Ax
3 ай бұрын
@@isabelleblanchet3694 this is every time I talk to my mom about star wars "a new hope.... episode 4... the first one... not episode 1, but the original one. YOUR episode 1; the FIRST first one. the REAL first star wars" or vice versa. lol
@NenneSez
3 ай бұрын
@@Sean-Ax 🤣yep, that's me explaining to the grandies!!!
@myladycasagrande863
3 ай бұрын
@@Sean-AxI remember referring to the original film as "STAR WARS Star Wars" to specify that one instead of Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi. Mom wasn't sure which SW movie I wanted to watch, and there were only three at the time.
@terrichicosky5676
3 ай бұрын
Like when your grown sons ask…Mom, can you make us wizards’ robes for next week”?
@KatRamsey
3 ай бұрын
I love having a button tab on my shirt! It keeps the shirt from riding up and helps keep things tidy! My historical clothes fit right on to the waistband button, but I’ve added a button and tab to some of my modern clothes with lower waistbands too
@ah5721
3 ай бұрын
The Blue Book Mens Guide to Tailoring by Fredrick croonborg is a gold mine for menswear! Borrow from library !
@kennedy2899
3 ай бұрын
I would love love love even a very basic breakdown video of how you worked on any of these clothing pieces, how to do the fittings on the gentleman, or even the discussions of how to keep it as something that he is comfortable in, while also keeping close to the silhouette of the time period!
@nautil_us
3 ай бұрын
Seconding this!
@dorotaurbanska6654
3 ай бұрын
Yes! We need at least a waistcoat, right?
@gabriellerussell8484
3 ай бұрын
Agreed. That would be a great video
@noaccount2494
3 ай бұрын
there needs to be more masculine historical clothing videos!
@lajoyous1568
3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the old days, before the internet and cable TV. I was trying to make a prarie style bonnet to go with a costume for school and couldn't remember how wide the brim should be. I was looking in the TV guide for Little House on the Prairie, but it wasn't on until later that week. I couldn't think of another resource 😂 oh how things have changed
@linr8260
3 ай бұрын
Iconic or big name movies and games often also have artbooks detailing costumes and/or character designs!
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
And libraries (even little ones) have them in stock more often than you might think! If you can't get your hands on an art book, though, a lot of the time at least some of that material will be online, and if you're doing a cosplay of a movie character, chances are they talk about the costuming process in a behind the scenes clip of the dvd (especially if you're cosplaying a main character or one who is very technically impressive in costuming/props). But yeah, if you're doing a cosplay, I recommend checking your local library for an art book as a beginning step, because they often have commentary from the artists/costumers. There's a big Star Trek costuming book and some behind the scenes info on the Search For Spock dvd that absolutely CARRIED my Vulcan costume a couple years ago.
@MarloWhetsel
3 ай бұрын
I am delighted that you used the word “flumoxed ”!
@jenniferbowman8265
3 ай бұрын
I love the way you are orienting us through your organization process. That does not come naturally to everyone and the process was really useful for “how do I eat this elephant” project. (We are not eating elephants!) ;) There has to be something other than Pin-trst too! 😊Great resource!
@andrewadams3894
3 ай бұрын
Within tailoring searching garment cutting, tailoring, and garment making can bring up different resources. Cutting is measuring and making patterns. Tailoring is assembling the garment and its canvas inner structure. Some aspects of men's fashion like fashionable waist length and fabrics are frustrating to research as lengths are always shorter or longer than last season and fabric names and availability change over time. The books I see recommended are "The Cut of Men's Clothes" and "How to Read A Suit". I don't think men's fashion is as well documented as women's.
@NoiseDay
3 ай бұрын
Princess Leah episode 1 could be the immaterial cosmos that one might imagine human life originates from
@vittorioballeriocastoldi6171
3 ай бұрын
Brilliant video. My experience with menswear books is that every 10 on womenswear book you maybe be able to find 1 for men’s clothes or you need a time period and there’s almost nothing
@KlingonPrincess
3 ай бұрын
Your name is the very best! Kudos to your parents (or you if it's a handle), just beautiful. Wishing you the best on finding all the historical menswear ideas.
@robintheparttimesewer6798
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I'm horrible at research but I also hadn't thought of doing it that way. Usually I try till I get frustrated then start bugging the kids to figure it out for me. They lecture me about keywords but eventually they do help.
@frida3025
3 ай бұрын
Im going to a medieval weeklong event to be a volunteer this summer and I’m doing a okayish historically accurate thing for that. I am using Milanote already in the same way you’re doing here!
@kaytemnorwood
3 ай бұрын
Using Google is tricky right now. The AI they're using is giving me not correct information. I guess I'll use... I dunno, yahoo?
@m.maclellan7147
3 ай бұрын
I think if you post "Before 2016...." before your search term it helps weed out A.I. !?
@fredericapanon207
3 ай бұрын
Perhaps the DuckDuckGo search engine might have less AI. Or the Brave brower's native search function? Both are more privacy oriented and may have fewer AI results
@dziooooo
3 ай бұрын
@@fredericapanon207 They unfortunately give AI results too. The best option is to search on a specific and trusted site (libraries, museums, archives, professional associations, etc.) once you zeroed in on the target. And before that add something like "before 2020" to your Google search criteria, so it doesn't show images posted since generative AI started poisoning the well.
@mx.noname4710
3 ай бұрын
DuckDuckGo is starting to use AI too, but you can turn it off
@SinisterSaturation
3 ай бұрын
I use ecosia and haven't been choking on AI
@jenniferburgess7668
3 ай бұрын
I got unsubscribed from your channel for like 6 months 😭 I just caught it the other day!, so happy to see one of your videos in my feed again
@m.maclellan7147
3 ай бұрын
You have to watch KZitem like a hawk ! They're always doing whack crap like that !
@JosieAreSee
3 ай бұрын
Your hair is so cute!!
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
💖Thank you!! I love that I can put it in lil braids again :D
@JosieAreSee
3 ай бұрын
@@MorganDonnerlove that you look fabulous at all lengths. ❤ but for sure me too. Being able to braid it back while working 👩🏻🍳💋
@ravenrandomlycreates
3 ай бұрын
The best Milanote commercial I have ever seen. I am a, see as I do, type of person and you very mich gave me the best first step to use it. Thank you😊
@amber_kitty8782
3 ай бұрын
Perfect timing, as I've just been commissioned to make a victorian/edwardian/steampunk-lite Mrs Claus outfit!
@lajoyous1568
3 ай бұрын
Well that sounds like a great project 😊 I'm sure you'll have some good fun coming up with ideas for it.
@isabelofthewoods
3 ай бұрын
This is not only useful for this specific topic but it's also just an excellent guide to do better internet research in general! :) really cool
@oneradcat2365
24 күн бұрын
as a seamstress and an artist, i feel like this video can be super helpful for drawing and storywriting as well as costuming! the tips you gave about research were generally very enlightening for me
@BrandiR713
3 ай бұрын
It's nice to know that I've been doing my costuming research just like you. I always thought I was being weird about it. 🤣
@iconitoblubberry
3 ай бұрын
This is so helpful I'm VERY new to sewing and a big history buff it exactly what I need!!!
@kanadra
3 ай бұрын
Ooh, is that a "unicorn in captivity" mouse pad? I love it. This was a great video, thanks for sharing! I went through a similar research rabbit hole a couple years ago when I was invited to a 20's theme birthday party. I had so much fun putting together a (somewhat) historically accurate 1920s evening look.
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
Yes it is!
@PurpleandWhiteStories
3 ай бұрын
I think I'll look into Milanote. I've got costume ideas coming and haven't written a lot down. Behind the scenes with the costume department is one of my favorite extras to watch! ❤
@NoiseDay
3 ай бұрын
As usual, your hair game is super strong 😍
@questionstar
3 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I do this too I feel SO validated haha, thanks :D I'm always nagging people to go down as many rabbitholes as possible, and to also search for things related to what you're looking for. I'm always shocked when I run into people who make one really specific search and then just... stop. But research is a skill too, Im going to share this video SO much in the future.
@The_Angry_General
3 ай бұрын
I'm a knitwear designer and I recently started using Milanote to organize my projects after trying several other project management software. This scratches my brain so nicely with creating mood boards, design boards, and organizing the steps of pattern writing! I'm even using it to organize capsule wardrobes for my personal wardrobe! It's a godsend.
@monah3628
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the wardrobe organising idea! Genius.
@The_Angry_General
3 ай бұрын
@@monah3628 Yea of course! Pulling images right from Pinterest and fabric/yarn shops as well and adding tracking links makes it feel very fancy!
@therbstewart
3 ай бұрын
Hi Morgan - wonderful video as always, and leads very well into a question I have been considering. For many reasons I am not going to be able to continue my costuming/sewing adventures and would like to talk with you about donating many (as in box loads) of patterns to you, as well as some books. I do not see a way to directly message you on KZitem, but if I send an email to the address listed in your channel details could we have a discussion about logistics? Patterns range from the big commercial pattern companies in the US to Folkwear and a company called Period Patterns I used to buy at the Texas Renaissance Festival. - Best regards, Bryan
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
That is an extraordinarily kind offer! Unfortunately I simply don't have the room for lots of new sewing supplies and resources. In order to save on shipping cost, I recommend you post locally to Facebook marketplace or craigslist or something similar that you have items in need of a new good home ❤️
@therbstewart
3 ай бұрын
@@MorganDonner I definitely understand the space issue - Keep posting and enjoying everything you do!
@SelinaLismet
3 ай бұрын
We use Milanote for the planning of our wedding. It's so helpful to put different ideas next to each other and see if we like the vibe 😊
@quicksilvertears921
3 ай бұрын
This is very helpful. It can be very confusing and overwhelming to think of where to begin. This has the biginner in mind!
@ultimateskillchain
3 ай бұрын
I've been an avid sewer and "historybounding" enthusiast for a long time, but I still always suffer from being overwhelmed when presented with a big challenge like that. (not just in this realm either!) I've had to learn how to break it down into small, achievable bites. I tell myself "I can eat a whole pizza, but only one piece at a time, and not all at once". So this video was so helpful at giving a guideline for the breakdown steps 😊 I'm going to save it to reference later and probably make a bit of a template to use for future projects!
@sarahpolk2450
3 ай бұрын
You look really pretty. And how lovely to see your hair growing out.
@chrissys6821
3 ай бұрын
you literally read my mind. I just looked through almost all your videos last weekend looking to see if you had a list of books you used. Thank you so much for this!!
@ecokiwi-ex2cu
3 ай бұрын
I enjoy the progression from "three bits of chalk" to "ALL the chalk"
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
😜 I am pleased someone noticed!
@melissaexton8680
3 ай бұрын
If you are into family history, old family photos could be a good source for Victorian fashions since that’s technically a primary source for authenticity.
@coolm3th
3 ай бұрын
As you described how to save your references I was just WAITING for the milanote sponsor because that was my immediate thought to use (i love and use milanote)
@kerriemckinstry-jett8625
3 ай бұрын
I had to do a shorter version of this when I was invited to a 90s party. 1990s clothes are just yuck. I could 1490s, though (& the birthday girl thought it was great). I already had a Burgundian, I just needed a hat. I ended up making a butterfly hennin (our term for it, it was really called something like grande corne because hennin was apparently a slang for a body part). Patterns of Time is a great resource for patterns, and of course there are books like _The Medieval Tailor's Assistant _, _The Tudor Tailor_, a bunch of Herbert Norris books, Janet Arnold's _Patterns of Fashion_ series, etc.
@gillianwiseman3518
3 ай бұрын
How about the public library? Costuming and theatre design books!
@denniscarl2679
3 ай бұрын
Local historical and genealogy societies!
@leisureletter2051
3 ай бұрын
I use Milanote to organize my ideas for sewing projects. I have particular categories like dream sewing project, thrift flips and quilts. I didn’t realize how many ideas I’ve been sitting on and what basic staples I probably should make until I put them on them up on the app. I struggled to put Pinterest pics up there but maybe using it on a laptop with a browser might help with that.
@saraharnold6790
3 ай бұрын
Morgan Donner explains SEO has officially made my week :D
@elisabethreeves1786
3 ай бұрын
👍👍👍LOVE Milanote! I used it to gather research for my big haircut/color change
@lianegraber3725
3 ай бұрын
That was the Emporer of Austria in the painting at the begining. At first I thought I was imagining things but there is also a men wearing an Austrian-Hungarian Uniform standing near the Emporer in in the painting. It's like randomly seeing a celebrity at an event or on the street. That got me distracted.😂 But once again a great video. Greetings from Austria
@Lilly94Z
3 ай бұрын
Franz Joseph jumpscare! (had to go back to check, i didn't even notice!)
@juliaforsyth8332
3 ай бұрын
We have a Glacier named in his honour in New Zealand.
@Certain_Donkey
2 ай бұрын
Thank you, this was so helpful. And I hadn't heard of Past Patterns before. I have bought from other historical and reproduction pattern companies but never this one. I love finding more resources like this!
@becky1854
3 ай бұрын
I love seeing someone's creative process!
@AmandaBrooks-j8i
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I'm active in SCA A&S and I'm going to keep this on hand for when I get these kinds of questions. ❤
@lhu89
3 ай бұрын
I love your feed and admire you so much. I'm just a beginner garb sewist.
@msmith1959
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make your videos! As a side...your hair looks great; color and style!!!!
@djfreelove247
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing your creative process. Look forward to possibly viewing the rest of the Mr Morgan Donner Victorian ball design as it becomes available.
@MariekevanBuytene
3 ай бұрын
Your outfit just needs the wicker basket from the shelf, a little red cape with a hood, a wolf, grandma, hunter and forest, and you're all set! Cheers!
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
This was a neat video, and I'm glad to see that I've stumbled into a very similar research pattern! I do both historical costuming (used to do a lot of Victorian, now I mostly do classical Greek, imperial Roman, Byzantine, 12th century western European, and American 1916-1922) and cosplay (usually of a character type, but lately more specific characters). In case it helps anyone else, I'm going to list my last couple of cosplay projects in the replies (since I feel like there's a lot out there on researching historical projects) and how I researched them. And in case it helps me, then I'm going to talk about my upcoming one because I am feeling SO stuck (it involves much more hardware than I'm used to).
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
So, first is my Halloween costume from 2022, a "Background Vulcan." Not any specific character, not a fancy diplomat, and not a Starfleet officer; just a random Vulcan in average Vulcan clothes. So, to start I thought about what era of Trek I wanted my Vulcan to be from, and decided on the 2360s (same time as DS9). Then I went on Trekcore to look up screenshots of episodes set then that I could remember seeing casual Vulcan clothing in, and saved some pictures of them. I paid attention to fabric colours (not a lot of green being worn, which makes sense, but was antithetical to my apparent instinct of making clothes green if I have to pick a colour), fabric type, drape, any weird stitching or tailoring I could see, etc. Then I read behind the scenes costuming guides and anecdotes about Vulcan clothing. I let that be extended to 2063 all the way to the 2360s, since a lot more ink had been spilled about Vulcan costuming for First Contact, Enterprise, and the original series movies (with my logic being that I could find commonalities between clothing types in those eras, compare to the era I was going for, and extrapolate how they kinda evolved). I saved more screenshots from those episodes and movies I was reading about. I watched behind the scenes clips on my dvd of The Search For Spock, since they talked a fair bit about Vulcan costumes (especially jewelry) there. I got a copy of Star Trek Costumes from my library (then I bought a thrifted copy when I could afford it, since I knew I'd use it later). I then looked at a few pictures of other cosplayers (including one LEGEND of a guy whose name I couldn't find, who had the most elaborate Enterprise style Vulcan outfit I've ever seen, it was so cool), and read some fan blogs about Vulcans, looking for fan ideas about Vulcan clothing. With all that knowledge gathered, I synthesized it by making notes and sketches, and deciding what pieces I'd make (jewelry, the dress I was wearing, the pants under it, the big cloak) and what I was buying (shoes, makeup including the pointy ears, the fabric itself). I researched what companies made good Vulcan pointy ears (I already knew I was otherwise using Ben Nye makeup, but the ears I got from Aridani based on cosplayer recommendations I'd read), and did my best to find sewing patterns. I ended up drafting the dress (and not liking how it turned out in terms of fit and fabric choice, which means I get to make it again when I feel like wearing this to a con), sewing very generic beige pants (pretty much just drawstring pajama pants. They're not visible, but I was going to do lots of walking and didn't want my legs to chafe), and following a blog guide I printed out to sew the cloak (there were no guides to Vulcan cloaks, so I made a Jedi cloak with very different fabrics, and taken in a little bit to still be billowy but not quite so extra huge. I'm still very pleased with it! The outer fabric is highly textured charcoal coloured cotton, and the lining, which peeks out at the cuffs of the hood and sleeves, is a very decorated wibbly sort of designed quilting cotton in fire colours, so the whole cloak looks quite volcanic, which echoes the planet Vulcan itself in a nice way. It's the Vulcan equivalent of a coat with flowers embroidered on it, I suppose). It was a surprisingly research-heavy project. Then, for a small comic con and Halloween of 2023, I went as Orpheus as depicted in the game Hades. Since that's just one dude, not a type of character, I was more concerned with getting details perfect. First, I looked at the official game art of him, and evaluated what parts I would need (wig, sandals, chiton, himation, belt, circlet, ribbon bracelets, makeup). Then, I researched details of early classical Greek clothing. Since I wasn't concerned with strict historicity (go look up "Orpheus Hades game" and you'll see what I mean), I wasn't going to lose sleep if some details were anachronistic, but if I can make something that's historically plausible and looks right, I will. I found some very helpful Greek statues and vase art, as well as blog posts by hoplite reenactors and SCAdians. I knew already that I was going to be working with linen (my small local fabric store had the two PERFECT linen colours for the chiton and himation, and I wanted to use linen due to its historic prevalence, so I had just gone and bought it ahead of time), so I started to sew the chiton while I did more research. I didn't research the jewelry much at all (I have experience making jewelry, so I knew exactly how I was going to make the belt and circlet, and got the materials quickly. Since those are less historically grounded, I didn't fuss with historical details and just got some glass beads and gold or brass everything else). I already had gold coloured sandals (again, ahistorical, but matching the jewelry and fantastical). I then had to source the makeup, the wig, and the himation trim. I went on a VERY long search for gold floral border ribbons (looking for rayon, too, as I avoid polyester at all costs because I hate disposing of the cut threads). I found my best luck with sari decorations on etsy, which led me (through the "You might also like" section) to a Turkish notions shop that had a PERFECT trim. The makeup I got in part from my local costume shop (the Ben Nye stuff) and in part from the store I buy most of my other makeup from (I try to get makeup with natural ingredients whenever possible, which makes it harder to find fun stuff like purple lipstick, but does make me less nervous about putting it on my face. Side note, if anyone has a source on eco-friendly black, emerald, and blue lipsticks, let me know). The wig I ordered from Arda wigs, upon finding out they had one that was based on Jareth (from Labyrinth) but in black, and had an extra-long variety (PERFECT for Orpheus. He has a long straight section of hair in the back, but on top it's a glorious bat's nest worthy of Siouxie, which I needed to be able to tease out of the wig). However, it didn't arrive until the day after the con, so the day before, I had to go to my costume shop, get a black hime-cut wig, and get a helping hand to cut it to the shape I needed while I wore it, before I teased it into that bat's nest. It wasn't as glorious, but it did the trick in the meantime. At that point, it was a simple matter of sewing both garments that I was sewing (chiton was by hand with another linen for the greenish trim, sewed down with silk embroidery floss in the same colour. I didn't try to replicate the gold trim at the top of the chiton, because I didn't like the look and it made the himation sit funny. The himation was machine sewn because the trim arrived a few days before the con and I wanted it done quickly), and figuring out how to do the makeup (very easy for a goth who's done theater). It was not a very research-heavy project, but I was spending a lot of the mental energy I would have spent on research in finding my trim and in making sure all the details were just so.
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
Now, my next project (not counting this year's Halloween, because I'm just getting a couple tank tops and going as someone from BSG, most likely. Something quick and easy so I can work on this big project) is going to be a cosplay of Doc Ock from Spider-Man 2 (specifically in the outfit he wears to rob the bank and to mess up that train, as for multiple reasons I can't do the shirtless looks he's got going before or after that). I already have the sunglasses lined up, I checked where other cosplayers got the green coat and found a good looking source (I'll have to save up though), and I'm currently tracking down the brown coat he wears under it, the hat, and the gloves (local thrift stores are doing me proud). I'm already good on shoes and pants. But I have NO IDEA where to start with the robot arms! I've been watching behind the scenes clips on my dvd and saving detail shots on my computer (screenshots and prop aution shots) so I can look at how they work and how they're shaped. I have a vague idea of how I'm going to partially articulate at least the claw for Flo (top right arm), maybe also Moe (top left). I'm planning on leaving Harry and Larry (bottom right and left) unarticulated, and posing them with stiff wire. And I've watched every cosplay "How to" video I can find that's at a similar level of detail to what I hope to build. But I'm running into a few problems. 1. I don't know how to make a large amount of the top arms articulated, instead of just the claws at the ends, without making them flop over when I'm not holding them up. 2. I REALLY don't want to build them from foam because I don't like how foam wears over time, but I can't think of another material I can access and have the tools to shape that won't be stupid heavy and hard to paint. 3. None of the videos go into enough detail on building the arms for me to have confidence in exactly what I must do for each step (doesn't help that I'm coming at this with only the hardware knowledge I have from construction side jobs and making jewelry. I've never worked with moulds!). So, I'm feeling rather flummoxed myself at the moment. But the best way to get unflummoxed is research, so I'll keep doing that and collecting small materials (bike chains, bike lights, spray paint, pulleys, cables, tubing, etc) so that when I do figure out what on earth I'm doing, I at least have some of what I need. Also, if anyone has suggestions on what material I should use (will I have to submit to the tyranny of fragil foam?) and/or on how to build the spine piece (I won't be wearing the full spine attachment you can see when he's wearing other stuff, but I want the top, like where the inhibitor chip is busted, to be visible over my coat collar), I'd love to hear it. The actual hardware and building information from behind the scenes isn't so helpful to me; since it's a movie, they could build it to be heavier and to move differently, since each arm was a puppet and they would be able to control the shots. I have to build more like I'm doing theater, since the arms have to be on me and working the whole time I wear them, and I have to be able to control them myself (no puppeteer team). It's quite daunting.
@m.maclellan7147
3 ай бұрын
@horseenthusiast1250 I would say P.v.c. pipe for the inner strength of the arms. Get the movable joints from "Spider Hill Prop work" They work with P.V.C. You MAY want to "bulk out" the arms with cardboard tubing. Maybe spraypainting it to make it look more metallic? There's also bigger p.v.c. pipes - more drainage pipes, but I haven't worked with those much. The size I am used to is 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch. Easily cut with a Drexel or chop saw. Can be bent with a heat gun (use a mask!) Also, fill empty tube with SAND, [use painters tale to keep it in] this will keep tube from buckling. Do a few "test" runs when bending p.v.c. the first time. Also, keep a bucket of water nearby to quench when you get to where you want it. The sand inside will be HOT & it may 'go past' where you want it if you don't cool it immediately! Sounds like a very fun project ! Best of luck !
@horseenthusiast1250
3 ай бұрын
@@m.maclellan7147thank you so much for the tips! I didn't even think of pvc...I was planning on adding some of the inner detail with tubing I saw at the hardware store, which I think I can wrap around those spider hill joints and structural pipe to give the right look. I was planning on using spray paint anyways (I've already got the right colours on hand), and if memory serves pvc takes spray paint very well. I'm hoping this project is just as fun to build as I think it will be to wear! :D
@EphanyasisOwleyes
3 ай бұрын
I think it really cool Victorian Princess Leia look would be really cool
@LV0723
3 ай бұрын
Yes! Love Milanote 👌👌 I have used them professionally to organize information for ad campaigns, as well as for my personal film projects.
@Holly_is_trying
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing about Milanote, Morgan! I'd been trying Notion but not clicking with it, but Milanote feels a bit more friendly for my brain! I'm a budding ceramicist and using it to round up pottery wheel research, as well as artist deep-dives for inspiration for my work. Thank you!
@TheArtFlower
3 ай бұрын
I smelled the milanote ad a mile away, it is such a good tool for moodboarding
@amyrobertson6075
3 ай бұрын
This video was perfectly timed, as I am about to try Milanote for costuming Hello Dolly... which starts next week! Thanks so much for the great handy hints.
@helenm1085
3 ай бұрын
My library gives you access to a few different borrowing apps where you can borrow digital library books!
@m.maclellan7147
3 ай бұрын
One I use is Libby. Free and you can have multiple "cards" on it. You can borrow from College & University libraries as well.
@JenInOz
3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to footage of you and Mr Morgan Donner at a Victorian ball!
@jcr9990
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your process. I stumbled across your channel while looking into girls Tudor dress last year. My daughter was playing Shakespeare’s daughter in a school production and I needed to supply the costume. I’m not a seamstress by any stretch of the imagination, but found myself completely obsessed with researching every possible style, but most importantly, what I could cobble together with my skill set (the thought of the nylon fancy dress costumes made me shudder 😂). I got halfway through the project, but then was interrupted by school holidays and various other issues (mainly no space to make without other people needing the space) so it remains in pieces. I really wish I could have finished it, but yes, I did resort to the nylon costume that was breaking after two performances 🙄😂 x
@chrisbellmore2485
3 ай бұрын
This was really helpful, thank you Morgan! I could have really used this a couple months ago when I started my flapper Flareon outfit XD
@adaddinsane
3 ай бұрын
Another consideration is US (by region) vs European (by country) - they be different.
@laurenragle5228
3 ай бұрын
This was such a cool breakdown of how you approach new eras and outfits. ❤
@whitetiger1518
3 ай бұрын
Some universities might be able to help as well as the museums and libraries (local and national). Most have archives for particular subject areas. Always well worth a search on the topic you are looking for with edu or ac.UK limiters just in the url field of Google advanced. You never know who has lecturers that specialise in particular areas of fashion (or any other topic). Thanks for the informative video.
@sittingunderthepinetrees
3 ай бұрын
I've just started working on my masters' thesis and I think that milanote tool might actually be really useful...couldn't you have uploaded this like 2 days earlier 🤣 I just had to turn in a research log and it would have been perfect!
@victoriabarclay3556
3 ай бұрын
This is so well put together even if experienced. Well done!
@kaiulani9118
3 ай бұрын
This is great! I’ve been trying to make a ren fare(?) outfit that’s based off of my character!!
@kellyoconnor5684
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much--I will definitely show this to my students when we do the costume design unit!
@kaygee301
22 күн бұрын
Is there a video of Morgan making the dress she is wearing because it’s lovely
@NenneSez
3 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks Morgan (and Mr Morgan). What an excellent explanation of the process!!! Milanote sounds interesting for multiple types of projects.
@williamdrum9899
3 ай бұрын
Pretty red dress.
@Eloraurora
3 ай бұрын
Fancy waistcoats, yes!
@katarzynamarzec2291
3 ай бұрын
I started to search thought eras and chose those which I am interested in. Now I am going thought old fashion magazined digitalised by one of Polish Uni's
@katwitanruna
3 ай бұрын
Oooooh! Men‘s costuming!!
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician
3 ай бұрын
YES! I LOVE DARCY CLOTHING!!!
@DrTurtleBee
3 ай бұрын
This is very close to what i do for costume research. I love that we have the resources to do this sort of thing now a days. Thank you for the vid! "EXTANT" is definitely a keyword that maybe beginner costumers doesn't know and is very useful. It means existing artifacts from a time period. Very useful for Google searches.
@extatis
3 ай бұрын
This Princess Leia thing : 😂
@elizabethclaiborne6461
2 ай бұрын
Tails haven’t changed. You can buy or rent them easily in New England or the South. There’s different cuts for different body shapes.
@greatauntlizbethg9137
3 ай бұрын
You are one of my resources. I am maling a medieval shift fillowi g you, and screenshot the victorian mans shirt tailoring page. 😂
@evyrune3008
3 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you! I, however, sat mesmerised by your beautiful earrings - can I ask where they are from? The silver spikey hoops 🤩
@AnnaCMeyer
3 ай бұрын
Those pleated trousers in the image from The Met are giving flashbacks to a pair I owned in the late 1980s
@pheart2381
3 ай бұрын
I had to do this recently for a doll's outfit. The trouble is in Victorian times children were photographed in their best outfit. It's difficult to find day-to-day outfits in children's photos.
@adda312
3 ай бұрын
I really want to love Milanote, and tried to use it exactly like you did Morgan, researching a sewing project...however it's barely usable in that way on my phone and tablet? Is it just me? I don't want to use my laptop for researching as most of my ideas and inspiration emerge when I'm mobile
@DinksDinersArtbox
3 ай бұрын
when you refer to RTW, are you meaning like the book, R Turner Wilcox, The Mode of Hats and headress? I have a copy of this all done in drawing and quite the history rather than actual patterns. Love that book. I very much enjoy your videos. Thank you
@MorganDonner
3 ай бұрын
Ah, so sorry, I meant ready to wear! I should have written it out fully, apologies
@roxiepoe9586
3 ай бұрын
This was fun. It is also helpful. Thank you.
@sannabengtsson3044
3 ай бұрын
I want to see the finish of
@guillermodeltortle
3 ай бұрын
Hey there! A heads up! Your website is down/listed as suspended. Thanks for the excellent video breakdowns!
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