Chris is a legend and knows what he's talking, and writing about, no doubt about that! Nice one Pete, great video mate.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pat. You are a bit of a legend yourself. Our Calvino film project has been a great experience is creative cooperation.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Pat
@keithd1219
2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Pat! 👏
@dominiquelaurain6427
2 жыл бұрын
Same same Keith, your channel and Pete's one are great. Just watched today when you interviewed Pete last year ;-) A similar style for interviewing ; be patient, curious, ask questions and listen.
@creamydistortion
Жыл бұрын
You're becoming a bit of a legend yourself. :-)
@kimhoedt9449
2 жыл бұрын
The quality of this channel definitely improved a lot during the last months. Great work 👌
@scottjohnson921
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! It went from good to great!!
@SquintyTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottjohnson921 and will only get better I'd bet!
@ThoughtMachine1
2 жыл бұрын
It went from meh to hmm that's interesting
@SquintyTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThoughtMachine1 you are necessary too!
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, wait until you see what i've got coming up
@byt290
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 1st CLASS & essential viewing for everyone who are associated with Thai people anywhere in the world. Note - Thai often don't express their feelings but instead may give you a very particular look / stare.... reading the expression on their face can often speak volumes, (not unlike anyone else)
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderfully supportive comment.
@mickbotcast
2 жыл бұрын
I did watch the eye of one person I try to check if she seek trouble, her eye is dead with no emotion and is a bit more slant than usual when she told the story that obviously bad if I believe it.
@rickrifaa
2 жыл бұрын
It is a a pleasure to listen to Christopher's on his chosen expat life in Thailand and understanding it's vagaries interesting, intelligent and beautifully put . A star amongst expatriates few reach this accomplishment when living and working in another culture .
@davodavo1782
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for raising this so overlooked aspect of Thai culture and relationships.Too many times seen the unfortunate fall out of a foreigner not understanding this with the consequences being even fatal in the extreme example. Best if you have upset someone rightly or wrongly is to try and seek blame for the situation, usually leads to a positive resolution in my experience. Another trip wire in Thai/foreigner relationships to watch out for is sarcasm. Being of an Anglo/Irish background sarcasm (black humour) pops up daily but just doesn't seem to cut too well with the average Thai.
@Ned88Man
11 ай бұрын
of course it wouldn't. Humour never really translates into different cultures, especially given a language difference. Plus, disrespecting someone or causing a loss of face has potential to be serious anywhere in the world. For example, say the wrong thing to someone somewhere at the wrong time, you could potentially encounter violence..
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed this check out another one I did about the culture of saving face in Thailand: kzitem.info/news/bejne/t6Simpifg6xefag
@mitchelljarvis2010
2 жыл бұрын
I have a story about ‘Face’ which some might find interesting! I was with my ex….a Thai girl and I was in the room on Koh Chang suffering with a bit of sunstroke! I was hungry and asked her to go next door to 7-11 for a ham/cheese toasted sandwich. She returned with some weird spicy burgers that I just could not stomach. I was a bit annoyed and asked her why she brought me these! She told me 7-11 had sold out of ham/cheese toasties so she thought I might like the burgers because farangs like burgers! I was starving by this point and decided to go to 7-11 by myself and see what I could eat. I headed to the sandwich section and what did I find? Yep, ham/cheese toasted sandwich. Upon later questioning her further it turned out that when she was looking for my food another farang was hogging the sandwich area, taking his time deciding what to buy! Rather than ‘lose face’ and asking him to move over so she could get a toastie, she just went to a different section and bought me something completely different!
@marcoswilliams2261
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mitchell 👋 How are you doing?
@herecomesforego1787
Жыл бұрын
@@marcoswilliams2261 great story and why I remain single even in my home country 😂
@singas2854
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it’s just easier to eat
@apelox
3 ай бұрын
This situation doesn't sound like she was afraid of 'losing face' to me as a Thai, unless she stated so. It sounds more like Krengjai... Someone, like me, can be too krengjai to the point someone jokingly point we have 'krengjai syndrome'. We're afraid of upsetting others then going the extra mile to avoid causing a scene/conflict so we could hardly speak up for ourselves, especially when that person looks intimidating in some ways. However, I have no idea why she felt the need to make up a story for you...🤥If she wasn't afraid of upsetting you (which could end up causing a fight/quarrel/drama?), but instead feeling embarrassed that she couldn't have done simple task then this could probably be called 'afraid of losing face' . It will definitely be 'afraid of losing face', if the reason was that she unintentionally bought wrong thing at first but didn't want to accept her mistake. Pride and embarrassment are very important in 'getting face' and 'losing face'. Asking a stranger farang to move has nothing to do with pride. If the farang refused you wouldn't lose face, unless you were an authority figure or that farang's boss.
@vassanab4243
Ай бұрын
Dude you are confused. This is not losing face. She was just ‘kreng jai’ = don’t wanna disturb someone. Many Farang still confuse about what is losing face, the nearest is feeling ‘being insulted’
@oywatters9415
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview Pete, hit it on the head of a nail. Christopher's amazing, I need to get his "Jai" book, looks like it's self explanatory and a must read book 👍 What can I say, thank you Pete 🙏 (❤️🇹🇭)
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Oy
@oywatters9415
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes Went straight on Amazon for the book, only had kindle 😢!
@TrippyandDa
2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff Pete. Makes me realise I must learn Thai before I retire in Thailand 🇹🇭
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
You will only really learn Thai living in Thailand and immersing yourself in the language and culture …
@creamydistortion
Жыл бұрын
A little bit goes a long way...
@teacherandrii8417
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pete for such a wonderful and deep conversation I was enjoying every second of this video and didn’t want it to end. Keep it up mate🙏
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment! Thank you.
@teacherandrii8417
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristoperGMoore I am blessed by Christopher Moore's comment! Now I'm definitely buying your book. The topic of "Jay" is something that unfortunately I couldn't find in any other culture and your opened answer regarding it plunged me into deep reflection and rethinking my experience of living in Thailand and the question of why I stayed there for such a long time and absolutely and irrevocably fell in love with the place. Thank you too, Christopher!
@skygypsy2718
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks so much….I love traveling and Southeast Asia is my favorite part of the world. I got two of Mr Moore’s books on kindle on Amazon so I can take them with me on my next trip there without the weight of actual books in my suitcase….please have him back soon so we can all benefit from his knowledge of Thailand. What a thoughtful and kind person….
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comments. I hope that you will enjoy my books and provide some guidance to your own journey.
@tonyfuller8717
2 жыл бұрын
I learned more in this 30min episode about Thai culture than I learned in 2 30day trips… Great Job!
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! I love hearing stuff like this
@Ned88Man
11 ай бұрын
I think that not wanting to embarrass people or cause confrontation is actually a very human thing. I think us westerners actually are very concerned about face as well, we just don't necessarily call it that. A lot of these concepts are rather straightforward, but this videos makes it seem like they are more complex than they really are. Basically it comes down to: treat people with respect and try not to rock the boat...That's simply a human trait, nothing else. Also, Christopher's examples of people losing face are basically times that he confronted people who were speaking behind his back. He states they lost face from this. Try doing this anywhere in the world and the reaction will be the same. It's a mortifying thing for anyone to be on the receiving end of such a thing, but I don't necessarily think it really comes down to 'face' and the Thai concept of it... Also, who butts into someone's private conversation between two people in the manner that he explained,? that's kind of not really a cool thing to do anywhere and is liable to embarrass everyone involved. Why do it? I also think that if you are going to criticize someone anywhere in the world, it's best to do it one on one, I would never dream of calling someone out in a group of people, it's just not the proper thing to do. Also, he TOTALLY butchers the pronunciation of "Greng Jai"....
@Mozzermarr10
2 жыл бұрын
11 years I’ve been here and I learned more from this interview than I have in my entire stay.
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
So you haven’t learnt to speak Thai in 11 years … ?
@Mozzermarr10
2 жыл бұрын
@@silverfox6883 no. Other projects sidelined me. I also remember not ever using Korean after I left there so I’m not so interested in putting in the effort again. I might one day but I’m not too bothered right now.
@Mozzermarr10
2 жыл бұрын
Also he was talking about culture and not just language.
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mozzermarr10 I can’t fathom how anyone can live in another country for so long and not learn the language? I’m also amazed Pete can hardly speak Thai when he should also be fluent after a decade. This reflects poorly on the individual. I really do think native English speakers are very arrogant because we have the language of commerce and thus don’t try to expand our linguistics. It also means you’re not really present in the place and just floating on the surface in a very shallow pond. I just witnessed an old Italian guy today obviously married to a Thai try to sell his neighbour (the local laundry lady) some olive oil and he couldn’t even speak any Thai. It’s just lazy and ignorant in my opinion. I felt embarrassed for him. Then she turns to me and tells me the cost in Thai and I paid her the correct amount. In a short time of being her customer she respects me because I speak some Thai yet just turned her back on him and he has lived next to her for years. Same goes for people who move to the West and not learn English. Sad really, and quite arrogant in my opinion. I try to learn and speak some Thai every day, and it’s not easy, but the Thais really appreciate it and warm to you and are happy to teach you. It makes each interaction so much more satisfying. I see you’re a teacher? But the best teachers are always students. You will always just be another farang on the exterior in Thailand with your attitude, bro. If you had learned Thai you would have known all this already …
@Mozzermarr10
2 жыл бұрын
@@silverfox6883 yeah you’ve got a point but considering I am just temporarily here, In that Thais don’t give out citizenship like the West, and this could all end tomorrow If I lose my work visa (you understand this right), I never felt the urge. I should , and I will, but other projects sort of kept me occupied. But yes, it is about time I put in a better effort.
@wytchend
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, you work hard to get the most interesting interviews. Well done mate. Christopher is a very interesting guy indeed
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I enjoyed making this one
@martypoll
2 жыл бұрын
An interesting circumstance in Face cultural practice is the status of Thai women married to westerners, the mia farang. I’ve seen the awkwardness in my Thai wife’s interactions with the villagers when we go there. Her status has changed and everyone is trying to recalibrate. And yes, it is awkward for me to have implicit status the details of which I don’t fully understand.
@Baloybeach
Жыл бұрын
You really have a talent Pete and I'm in awe of your ability to find such interesting people to interview.
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I do seem to meet interesting people. Maybe it’s the luck of the Irish
@martypoll
2 жыл бұрын
A good book about “Face” in Thailand is, “The Way Thais Lead: Face as Social Capital” by Larry Persons
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Here's my interview with Dr Larry kzitem.info/news/bejne/t6Simpifg6xefag
@bn6452
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much to interview and save thai culture, I'm shared. 😊
@cwinasia
2 жыл бұрын
So glad you came back for a second interview and touched on Heart Talk 🙏
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Christopher
@cwinasia
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes unfortunately doesn't look easy to find a third edition right now. Seems to be out of stock in Thailand and what I saw on Amazon, doesn't ship to Thailand.
@mickeyp5122
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Pete. I have been married for over 20 years to a Thai Woman and have just learned so many more things from your video. Very interesting. Hope your having a fantastic day Buddy!
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mickey
@alanoconnor7967
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very good points. Makes you think. Maybe he's book should be sold at the airport as travel requirements.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be a bad idea Alan
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
The books were once available at airports in Thailand. But they are no longer stocked.
@trevoraindow2440
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting was that. I often wondered about the endless use of "Jai" a heart word often used in conversation.
@mihaiscarlatescu6597
2 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Thank you.
@dominiquelaurain6427
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete. I learned a lot from your video. Until now, I knew only Christopher G. Moore from his name on book covers (various bookstores in Thailand)..but I discovered that he has great thai culture. I will try to read books again. His "heart" book is a great one for thai language learning,
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for those kind words, Dominique.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Christopher’s book Heart Talk is now available in paperback at Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/1694514013/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Heart+Talk+Moore&qid=1661651154&sr=8-1
As a manager I’ve always said “Praise publicly, punish privately”.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Cool I like that
@destinationsroadslesstraveled
2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Moore has a great way of explaining how face works in Thailand. I had to laugh about the story in the lift. Had many similar encounters myself almost daily since many Thais think I can not understand what they are saying. Most of the time just curious what I am doing. The worst case was two older Thai women walking past me in a restaurant as one mentioned sitting with me and the other shouted I do not sit with foreigners. I almost said something but instead just glared at the women for a long period of time. What I do not agree with is using face as a shield to avoid taking responsibility for your actions. I have my limits with it.
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Probably why the footpaths and many roads are in such disrepair …
@Ned88Man
4 ай бұрын
but those examples aren't really classic or necessarily good examples of what "face'' is. Those are basically just times that he called out people that didn't think he understood what they were saying. That is a mortifying thing to have happen to ANYONE regardless of where you are in the world and is not really about "face" per se and more about realizing that someone understood what was being said about them by you and you were in turn embarrassed by that. Very little to do with "face" in the Thai concept of it. The same thing could happen anywhere in the world and the reactions would be the same.
@California511
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 2 all of you, that’s another excellent interview 👍🏻
@Naturalwigsandvigs
Жыл бұрын
This was exactly what I needed! Thank you! I'm going to buy the book now🙏
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JasonRuppVlog
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@lordbarondk
2 жыл бұрын
Never watched any of your videos. Never watches a YT-video twice. Did both with this today. Thanx mate 👍👏
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Great comment. Thank you.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
@jackh1749
2 жыл бұрын
Great interview!!! I learned a lot. Thanks to your guest and to you for having him on your show.. 🙏👍
@richardhaughton4303
2 жыл бұрын
A great lesson from someone who has been a working Farang in Thailand
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Richard
@geofferyrobertson6608
2 жыл бұрын
some good info in this interview .... opens your eyes a bit
@ViewTalay
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete and Christopher, that was fascinating and educational.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you enjoyed our discussion.
@jimmyg4428
Жыл бұрын
Could listen to this conversation for hours .. was very interesting and helpful Ty
@ThairishTimes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@orawancarlile6192
2 жыл бұрын
This interview is very interesting indeed even for a Thai, myself.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, hun Orawan. If you pay attention, Thai people will share their culture with you.
@dariodimartino7806
2 жыл бұрын
🤩 wow I have Never seen such an in in depth description about Thai Culture. Don’t mind me being married to a Thai for 3 years and living here for 5 speaking the language. I have always wondered how to put it into words!
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dario for your kind words.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dario 👍🏼👍🏼
@dariodimartino7806
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristoperGMoore thank you sir 🙏
@ThailandThomas
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't face the same as respect. I have been taught to always give elders respect. Do. not challenge them even if you believe them wrong. Great video Pete. Always look forward to them.
@markshepperson3603
2 жыл бұрын
No, Face saving is a song and dance due to the childish mind of people that have never been told ‘you can’t do this’ or ‘you’re wrong’. It’s basically child psychology for big people.
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
@@markshepperson3603 Like women in general …
@anthony7091
2 жыл бұрын
When used to lie then it not respect.
@kittenastrophy5951
2 жыл бұрын
Seems it's also there in the west but westerner try not to see it, right?
@chopperman10
2 жыл бұрын
Gday Pete, only been a subscriber a few months but absolutely love your informative content. Great mix of people being interviewed and subject matter. Great work mate 👍
@richardevans3801
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I learnt something in another great interview Pete.
@pamgobaira4587
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for speaking with Christopher again. How interesting. Could listen to him all day. Funny thing, l named my first son Jai 38 years ago and didn't realise it meant heart.❤️
@glenloader639
2 жыл бұрын
" Jai " also refers to the " mind "
@ptanisaro
2 жыл бұрын
Love the interview! As a Thai, I can confirm he is a Thai guru.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it Pattreeya
@DynamiteDB
2 жыл бұрын
Pete is such a likeable dude. Love the channel bud.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate ☺️
@RobFomenko
5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. As others have said. I learned a lot. I had an episode while in Bangkok that could have gotten out of hand. Luckily I hadn't drank that much so it didn't. I had been in the bar for several hours buying all the girls drinks, having the time of my life and I had brought only enough money to have a good time. No credit card. ATM card. So I started pulling the receipts out of the bucket. Checking to make sure I wasn't going over what I had in my pocket. The girls got all upset questioning why I was doing that and didn't I not trust them?! My main concern was to not lose face over not having enough money to pay the bill. Yet. They thought that I felt they were cheating me. Which wasn't the case. At first I started getting irritated about it because she kept saying why you checking why you checking? And my response was why shouldn't I check? Like as if we were going to have a serious conversation. But I was new in Thailand and still am wet behind the ears so to speak. But I realize that I needed to changed my tact so I explained to her why and that calmed them down. Three of them so does they could get pretty loud. I had just enough money left in my pocket to have a beer on the way back to the hotel at a different place that doesn't have that kind of environment. All good. These girls kind of are friends of mine now and two of them I talked to regularly. When I go back to Bangkok I will spend time with them. Separately. Have a lot to learn about the Thai culture and I appreciate this video for helping that along.
@PaulWalliswriter
2 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating interview Pete!
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul
@jamescasey611
2 жыл бұрын
Loving this intro music....attitude..sassey, owning this... Great work all round Pete 👏 👏
@vKSh87
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very interesting interview 🙏🏾
@soldiermick
2 жыл бұрын
When I was filing for divorce in uk from my Thai wife I had to go through the face thing. At the time (law has changed a bit now) the main reasons for divorce were adultery or unreasonable behaviour. Although she was guilty of adultery there was no way she was going to admit to that so i tried to let her save face by using the behaviour route. I had to list 5 things that she had done, the solicitor said to keep them bland and undisputable to make it easier. Things like not promoting a full family life or not doing things together as a couple. In the UK most people would just sign to get things going but no way was she going to admit, as she saw it, to being a bad wife. She wouldn’t sign. The only way was to allow her to say she disputed the reasons for divorce but was not going to contest it. Saving fave for sure. Anyway it’s nearly all over now, just waiting for court to finalise but it’s been a pretty rough journey to get here. Mostly because of saving face.
@FBICPS
2 жыл бұрын
How much did she walk away with? 😊
@fatwallet13
2 жыл бұрын
If your Thai wife cheated on you in the UK, I say my country my rules & I'd site her for adultery & stick to my guns however long it took to get her out my life. I also kick her arse out & let her find her own place & finance it.
@soldiermick
2 жыл бұрын
@@FBICPS ha I’m not going to tell you but it was less than she thought. British law can be quite good. All her Thai assets were taken into consideration (house and land) luckily I had copies of the deeds.
@joeyausAyoyo
2 жыл бұрын
I'm Thai, I know why Thai people want to save their faces by not admitting mistakes. The best way to make Thai people admit their mistakes is having to speak in an indirect way and letting them to speak out what they did wrong, they would feel more comfortable and happy to talk about their faults than having someone tell them what they were doing. The more we try to tell them what is wrong, the more they will resist and reject the truth, but if we let them to speak freely of what they have done by showing our sympathy for him. They will gradually speak up and admit their guilt by themselves.
@markshepperson3603
2 жыл бұрын
I would say any legal case in Thailand is slow and correlation of lack of speed isn’t causation of face saving. Thais law is the same as English law in the fact that a separation of 2 years results in a incontestable result. I see your further comment and see there was a cash trail involved, this could be why the time frame was slow. Hope you find your happy in the future.
@GalwayBluebird
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, everything is based on your heart. When ever you are making a decision Thai people will always tell you go with your heart, think the heart is to go with what you really want but your head will always make you think twice about what you do. Think people in South East Asia are way happier people with a lot less than what people have in the western world. Look at the schools here everything is geared to enjoyment and happiness. Great video Pete love the different spectrum of people you interview.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Yep some of the happiest people i’ve met here are poor if we are judging by finances but they’re far richer than most in the west if we are judging by happiness. I always think that going with your heart is similar to going with your gut maybe there’s more emotion with going by the heart though
@GalwayBluebird
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes exactly happiness is what you make of the situation that you are in, find thai culture very similar to Irish culture in a way especially in issan. What ever little money you have, you went and spent it on a good time. Some of my happiest memories have been meeting with my thai friends a bottle of sangsom a few bottles of chang, street food and a small music player on the side of the street.
@santiagonavesgomez8332
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@Paul-dv4dr
2 жыл бұрын
I think this extreme fear of "Loss of face" holds some cultures back from developing, it's like being unable to challenge power - the culture and society festers. In the West we have to get used to criticism - even a lot of jokes and banter involve someone losing face, just suck it up or you're soft! Then give it back. Very different kinds of communication.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. In Ireland and the UK being the butt of a joke can even meet that people like you. You give it back and that’s it
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes Same as Australia, matey …
@vassanab4243
Ай бұрын
In case you don’t know but ‘loss face/saving face is not only a Thailand thing but also Asian thing, you will find this culture in China, Japan etc. Japan is a develop country, also China is going to be more develop than western countries in some part like high speed train, internet etc. so I don’t think it’s has nothing to do with loss face culture, but because of the corruption that make Thailand is still less developed.
@Tom-Yum-Gai
Жыл бұрын
tip of the iceberg....you could do a weekly show with this guy. Or a Live stream if someone helped view comments/questions.
@geofferyrobertson6608
2 жыл бұрын
keep 'em coming mate . top notch
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 😃
@chrisrb2001
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, enjoyed it a lot, thank you :)
@อัชรากีระติชัยนันท์-ฝ5ฦ
Жыл бұрын
ฉันชอบรายการนี้❤
@markdamon6696
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the insight and examples given.
@timpye6162
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thankyou. As a potential purchaser of Heart Talk I was curious as to how the book is Indexed if one was looking for the appropriate term in a specific context
@JimL666
2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable!!! I just finished his book Spirit House. Btw, I was born in New York city but my parents came from Leitrim and Offaly.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jim. I hope that you enjoyed Spirit House.
@JimL666
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristoperGMoore I did enjoy it and will continue reading more of your books.
@brianhughes3690
2 жыл бұрын
wise man. thanks
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Brian. I wish I were wise.
@jimshelley8831
2 жыл бұрын
Great blog and an education lesson in the culture in Thailand
@sanoo2834
2 жыл бұрын
Saving face in all Asian culture, not only in Thailand. Respecting according to chronology of age is Asian thing too. Thanks for this interview. Insightful from the non-Asian point of view. I mean culturally non-Asian not ethnically. Asian-american, British-Asian or Australian-Asian etc could not fully appreciate the face saving culture.
@ThairishTimes
2 жыл бұрын
Yes saving face is not only in Thailand but since we are both living in Thailand we focussed on Thailand
@no_clot_shot1128
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThairishTimes I'd choose Asian face saving over Western d.i.c.k. measuring every time... Westerners realizing "face" is an important value and not "spitting" in others faces can only enrich them and improve their lives..
@truckerfromreno
2 жыл бұрын
When you see older people living in squalor in Thailand it doesn't look like respect.
@nokchilton1562
2 жыл бұрын
Splendid interview! Thank you both of you..,
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Khun Not for leaving such a kind comment.
@rainyseason4581
2 жыл бұрын
I never read his book before but would like to add some information here. Jaai Dum (Black heart / dark heart / no light in heart) = Selfish / lack of generosity / lack of kindness / unfriendly Although the meaning is negative sometimes Thais use it to tease friends depending of circumstances. There is another word meaning similar “Jaai Jerd” Thais often use them together “Jaai jerd Jaai dum” Greng Jaai = do not want to make others feel troubled and annoyed Nam Jaai (water given with heart / water given from heart / water from heart ) = generosity / true heart In the old days Thai people placed a small blister of water with dipper along the way or in front of their houses for people who passing by to drink to quench their thirsts free of charge. It is given to the travelers without specifics or knowing who they are. This is considered a great alms and reflects generosity to others. The word "Nam Jaai" might come from this custom.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Heart Talk has 750 jai words. And I'm not certain that I found all of them!
@rainyseason4581
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristoperGMoore If I read your book, I think I might find more.
@karenk3593
Жыл бұрын
I would love to attend a Master Class by Mr. Moore on Thai culture.
@mangostickyrice555
2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs Up 👍
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love Mango and sticky rice.
@ccrider8483
2 жыл бұрын
15:20 "This is a patronage culture", I have never heard it expressed that way before and it makes sense. So is a culture based upon loyalty a good thing at the exclusion of critical thinking and questioning the status quo? As a westerner I think not, but I try to keep an open mind.
@jasonlittle3000
2 жыл бұрын
For me i think enjoy comes to mind i was walking in the back of some houses in Chang Mai and there was a party and in a few words this Thai said come come party party come i wasn't doing anything so i went sat down and had a wonderful time. Where you from? What are you doing here? drink dink here here i was there all night too tipsy couldn't find my way home i'll take you and i was driven home never felt more safe in my life. So that's why i love Thailand and i got to meet the queen of Malaysia but that another story...
@yayam2136
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@mintida3112
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@derekbuckley7695
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that very interesting, cheers
@im7348
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you!
@nathansmith6451
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@ATIWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Good vid, I think unless a farang understands Thai language, it is extremely unlikely they will ever really feel conscious of face. He obviously can speak Thai or at least understand it significantly, but the vast majority of farangs will never ever speak any significant Thai and so it's very hard to feel affected or understand the concept fully when you can hardly talk in depth to Thai people unless they know basic English. Also, I think the younger generation (like bar girls who can speak English), at least around foreigners, are less affected by it and understand that we don't have a directly similar concept and know we're much more direct and honest (which I think overall is one better cultural thing we have).
@Ned88Man
2 жыл бұрын
the younger Thais that I know barely give a second thought to this concept..
@ATIWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ned88Man they will in front of other thais and seniors. Maybe not in front of farang
@ATIWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@UCnO_zTUBS0HO8uHhTyZGrAQ but that's only to westerners, they wouldn't say that to other thais I don't think
@Boddav
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete,excellent session. Maybe I can find Mr Moore's work in Asia Books.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, David. If you are in Bangkok, you might try Dasa Bookstore on Sukhumvit Road near the Emporium shopping mall. Dasa carries second hand books.
@Boddav
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristoperGMoore -Aha! No more need to go to Khao San for bargain books.Thanks.
@titohaggardt6125
2 жыл бұрын
Language carriers culture, but it's changed a lot, read Chris's "Smile" series, all of his books are time capsules.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tito.
@Baloybeach
Жыл бұрын
Please don't get stuck in Ireland. I know it's home but the world has more to offer and your ability to transfer your guests knowledge and stories to us the subscribers would be sorely missed. Although a good pint of Guinness would be hard to part from.
@gertdrok
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting Story and explanation, but very Difficult to understand for a Westerner. Good Conversation Pete. 🙏
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Gert, it is indeed to understand as many things fall into a grey area.
@lewisking94
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. A lot of the westerners I see around here could do with understanding this a bit better 😬
@ibrahimrahim8714
6 ай бұрын
This was interesting
@cryptoslacker-464
2 жыл бұрын
He should make an audio recording as well. I've got 4 to use up on audible 😆
@JM-am-or-pm
2 жыл бұрын
Anywhere to buy the book locally in Thailand? Online or in store. Amazon says it can't ship to Thailand.
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jai. It is difficult to find my books in local bookstores. I've not had a problem ordering and receiving books from Thailand. So I am uncertain why Amazon says it can't ship to Thailand.
@angelcabales
2 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent and interesting guy - really good
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@walkwithtimmi2764
2 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting content! I Ve another example. In situation like when Thai buys things or use service for example got in to barbershop and got bad haircut from owner mostly Thai will act cool not complain or yell to the shop owner but instead after they step out the shop, they won't comeback or return to this is owner forever also Thais will tell convince others friends colleague not to visit this shop😂😂😂 these should assumed that Thai want peaceful not create enemy don't like to humiliate themself for owner but still gossip back behinds. It's a complicated culture to explain😅
@ma3stro681
2 жыл бұрын
Clicked on the book link at they're priced at $178USD for paperback used copies ??!! This must be a mistake ...
@ChristoperGMoore
2 жыл бұрын
Here's a paperback copy of Heart Talk at $10.95 plus shipping (actual cost).
@truckerfromreno
2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video.
@TheMark1840
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the two stories your guest mentioned of him understanding conversations that were not meant for him would have caused exactly the same effect in the west. Western people, if they assumed a foreigner could not speak English and they had been having a private conversation would also feel embarrassed and retreat asap.
@PsychicLord
2 жыл бұрын
The book looks good, buy Amazon seems out of stock :(
@rainyseason4581
2 жыл бұрын
I've got one from Dasa Books in Bangkok, It's a secondhand book with Christopher G. Moore's signature. 🙂
@tobyprice1092
2 жыл бұрын
I worked in Angola for 9yrs. If I was not happy with someone's work or quality of work I always took them aside and spoke to them one to one. They were very similar to Thais. This was even with a different religion and continent. Elders there were also above the younger team. I don't believe in this concept here in Thailand but go with it. I do see a change now with the younger generation and more modern beliefs and thoughts. In the village I live it's still ongoing but BKK and more city's are changing as kids are getting more education.
@rainyseason4581
2 жыл бұрын
You know, I see many kids the more they are educated, the more they wouldn't like to lose faces. They think they have more knowledge than the others even their own parents and what they think and do is right. so they don't respect anyone and often have problems when working with other people. Knowing how to respect others is one of important factors that will allow people to live together peacefully. Human society has many dimensions.
@tobyprice1092
2 жыл бұрын
@@rainyseason4581 Having your own mind, ideas and not sticking to the standard rules is what makes people great.
An interesting thing is that while saving face doesn't exist as much in Western culture, I think it does exist in the workplace with women in western culture. Many of the things you describe exist in dealing with women in the workplace in the US. You can't correct them, especially not in front of other people, and it's best to just defer to them in a "saving face" type of way....
@silverfox6883
2 жыл бұрын
Blame feminism and our weak gynocentric culture. Women = good, man = bad. Accountability, agreeableness, humility and logic is a woman’s kryptonite ...
First westerner who really understands Thai culture. Thank you..I would add, I think to be Thai is to feel pure of heart. They care more about that than we do. It's a Buddist thing.
@Ron-rk6iz
2 жыл бұрын
Buddhist culture is very rational, nothing to do with emotions, in the contrary it is a technique in fact, not a religion even, which teaches people to control their emotions and "running" thoughts. I do not deny all the sensitivities however in the daily life of the Thais, in the contrary but one should not generalize. A lot depends on the background, education and spiritual development in general, Thai people like other nationalities are not all the same.
@jOeLwAlBy
3 ай бұрын
Controlling emotions and "running thoughts" in the east culturally is something the west really seriously needs to learn. It causes so many impulsive issues in our society currently plaguing social media and the like. A bit of it can't be helped, ah well, always next time type behaviours are needed.
@PeterC245
Жыл бұрын
When I return to my wife’s village in Thailand , I am absolutely aware I must behave in a certain manner , as my wife likes to show off her Falung husband
@mauti8550
Жыл бұрын
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@gavinvd1
2 жыл бұрын
Jai ❤
@davidb2206
6 ай бұрын
The unfortunate and unsatisfactory thing is that the "saving face" and krieng jai are never applied to the farang. YOUR face and dignity don't matter. Like his example in the early part of the video, I overheard many nasty and rude comments when Thais assumed I could not understand. In one restaurant with my wife, the obviously ethnic Chinese-Thai (Teow-chu) middle-aged business man at the next table started saying some particularly vulgar and insulting things about me, a farang stranger. I had been quietly eating the meal with my wife and paying him no attention. He was dressed upper middle-class and spoke loudly enough for the whole restaurant and staff to hear. It stunned me for a moment that any Thai -- and in a public place -- would be that crude, vulgar, and openly insulting. I felt my blood pressure rising as I turned to just look at him. My Thai wife grasped the tension immediately, turned to him directly and said to this stranger in a firm voice, "Pee, ka (Older brother, sir), kow poot Thai di." "He DOES speak Thai." The two men did not look at me and went quiet after that. We left quickly after our meal, while the two Chinese-Thai males stayed and continued drinking, with more reserved conversation.
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