A friend kindly pointed out to be that at 4:05 I mispronounce the word "bearer" as "barrier" and that I say "modern tie" instead of "modern collar" at 8:35. My apologies for any confusion, I'm still new to this - I must have read my own script wrong! That's what I get for recording at night!
@Jim5988
4 жыл бұрын
no worries mate, deadly content anyway!
@clairezhangyx
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! I know far less in historical menswear than in womenswear, so this video is very educational. May I suggest that you pin this comment so that it's the first thing people see when they scroll down?
@AntiqueMenswear
3 жыл бұрын
@@clairezhangyx Thank you so much for your kind comment! I have pinned it now! That was a great idea! I'll be releasing more videos on tailoring and suits in the near future 😁 I also find your channel incredibly helpful in understanding women's fashions!
@antoniotricolor6343
Жыл бұрын
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@BowTieGuyUK2000
4 жыл бұрын
It's good to see the "younger generations" wearing vintage clothing - especially stiff detachable collars! (We oldies thought we were a dying-out generation!).....Keep it up young man, and your followers. Ray
@heinzguderianbutmoreyounge9659
3 жыл бұрын
You are my favorite dress man ray!may the lord grant you health
@dhunter4315
2 жыл бұрын
Pray, Sir. Where have you seen these young people? For I have not noticed them at all.
@SStupendous
2 жыл бұрын
You oldies? You're from the Edwardian period!?
@Uaeboravisma
Жыл бұрын
Hi mate I'm still a teen and I'm starting to wear this fashion. It is much more enjoyable than new "fashion"
@Kaiser_behind_the_slaughter
Жыл бұрын
As a 15 years old guy, that likes to wear vintage... Yes, the style is dying.
@MochaKimono
Жыл бұрын
The tucking of the shirt-tails between the legs is interesting, because something similar exists nowadays with men's dance shirts, which often include buttons in the groin to fasten it between the legs, almost like a leotard. It keeps the shirt smooth and tucked in while executing dance maneuvers.
@ifeanyikennedy1047
2 жыл бұрын
I started dressing 1920s in November 2020. And I want to go 1890s. Man your inspiring me. Your the best out there.
@alatarmaia7
Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic resource for men's period dress! Thank you so much for posting-most of the historical fashion and 'getting dressed' videos I see generally deal with women's fashion, so this is really a treat.
@ulafrancis8201
4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I had no idea about all the little details like the tie retainer! Look forward to the detachable collar history video :^)
@decafwight
4 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to see that the Victorian & Edwardian vintage-loving community is getting recognition. I love this video. I could watch things like this for hours. What’s your Instagram?
@izaiahnickerson499
Жыл бұрын
It made me smile seeing you try to get in and out of your half placket shirts because I have the same issues with them having high arm holes 😅
@Htonartnomed
4 жыл бұрын
Man, you are a godsend! I've been growing more interested in detachable collars over the last few months(and via them in the rest of the items you presented here), but haven't found really good sources of information about them (I found one of the tie holding studs for example, and had no idea that was what it was for!). I really look forward to the video about starching/making collars, finding affordable places to buy/launder them from belgium has been giving me some trouble... I'm really glad vintagebursche sent me your way, keep it up!
@dandymillennial7657
4 жыл бұрын
i like very much how you make the videos, with a lot of humor!!!! You know that i use detachable collars to and its feel fantastic hahaha
@crazymelvis5877
3 жыл бұрын
It really does.
@Erre357
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question How do you go to the bathroom? because i wear a three piece suit with suspenders and i have to unbutton the jacket, the waistcoat, the pocket watch, then find a place to put down the garments and finaly i can lower the suspenders and the throusers. All of this with the hurry and the fear of not making it in time, and you are cold because you are wearing only your shirt Is there a simpler solution? Because back in the days everyone wore suspenders and i find really strange that no one has ever complained about this problem.
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
I'll answer this question in my new Q&A video!
@misterjder1.831
4 жыл бұрын
This video was utterly informative and highly entertaining. Thank you sir for creating this. It is indeed AWESOME.
@user-fw6xs5ko6g
Жыл бұрын
thank you so so much, as a design student who is currently researching classical and antique womens and mens clothing i have been wondering about how collars used to work and how the chemise would looked like without it. I truly think that the antique style is simply beautiful and it is just so beautiful to wear. Glad to see gentlemen appreciating it. I also truly enjoy the way your videos are edited and your humor, charmingly funny haha. Lovely greetings from Germany!
@leo_maino
8 ай бұрын
very helpful to understand every detail, thank you!
@leonstevens1382
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent history! Very accurate!
@lynnhobby32321
4 жыл бұрын
All these layers and gadgets bring a whole new level to foreplay! 🤦♀️. Love your videos!
@CostumersManifesto
2 жыл бұрын
Running into your channel has made my whole day. I, too, am collar obsessed, and seeing your spectacularly succinct, broad ranging, detailed and well edited video on a topic I've been quietly nuts about since the 1970s brings me bliss. Now, I'm going to check out all your others....
@AntiqueMenswear
2 жыл бұрын
This is such a wonderful comment to receive. Thank you! Someone of your experience and knowledge over the years enjoying my channel is very encouraging! I will try to post more videos in the future!
@전자왕김재상
2 жыл бұрын
i love thats collars,cuffs, because elegance i watch in south korea
@TheGaganDeepshri
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks You have worked hard I appreciate
@kanashiiookami6537
4 жыл бұрын
Never thought guys had fiddly clothes, I thought that the most they had to deal with was a three piece suit with tie and pocket square. But my goodness they had just about as much of a faff as the women back then, eh?🤔 Thank you for another great video, you taught me some things I didn't ever know I needed to know. (Never would have thought that this was an avenue to research. So thank you for this.) Definitely worth the wait. Stay safe. 😁
@pennywisethedancingclown2702
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for that washing and starching video!
@hao.3599
4 жыл бұрын
Going to the toilet like this is troublesome
@hidaguhigaro7010
4 жыл бұрын
Splendid video, as always. I have been wearing antique clothing for 6-7 years now and I still find it a struggle to get the tie underneath the club collar. I always need at least an hour to get ready before my day can start! 😅
@jabscha7051
4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! Always wish there was more people talking about historical menswear, and this is exactly the era that I want to learn about
@jabscha7051
4 жыл бұрын
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@michaelciccone2194
3 жыл бұрын
Did men actually wear wool pants in summer? Were there dry cleaners back than ?
@JustSaralius
3 жыл бұрын
I love learning stuff like this! Would love a video on different tie and scarf styles: cravates, bow ties, straight ties et.c. and how men and women's ties and scarves were different and similar. Anything like that coming up?
@KenManTheOneAndOnly
4 жыл бұрын
Oh this is a awesome and interesting video! I was pleasantly surprised I was doing it correctly with the collar😂 but do you have any modern places to get shirts and cuffs?
@dandymillennial7657
4 жыл бұрын
Here un Argentina is imposible to get that kind of shirts
@marioburgos712
4 жыл бұрын
@@dandymillennial7657 I can confirm that's sadly true :( The only way available is to find the materials and make them yourself.
@dandymillennial7657
4 жыл бұрын
@@marioburgos712 yes, but is to difficult to get good fabrics and the cost is to high. When the collars start to get broken i cut them off and i modified it doing two new buttonholes in front and back
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
The cuffs and collar used in this video are from a small Australian company called RJW Shirts, and they're actually stiff washable garments that don't need the starch.
@KenManTheOneAndOnly
4 жыл бұрын
Antique Menswear oh that’s awesome! Thank you so much!
@RateMyRestaurantYEG
4 жыл бұрын
You would be an amazing gentleman to have a pint with whilst discussing Edwardian men's fashion. Cheers old sport :)
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you 😁 if only it were possible during this time!
@RiaRaynedrops13
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore this :) i feel like there aren't enough antique men's fashion KZitemrs out there for our age range haha or really men who are interested in this in general. Outstanding job!
@the_vintage_hound8638
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really funny and interesting as well. The bar gets higher and higher for my vintage style 😁
@theflapperbassist1361
4 жыл бұрын
Wow a time in history where men took just as long to get dressed as women haha
@CulverEmpireV27
3 жыл бұрын
Wanting to start phasing out all my spear points for some of these from Darcy Clothing, this was very helpful!
@jaycashmere782
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, please do more! I love the detail that you go into on all these clothing items
@notsomething7561
Жыл бұрын
Where did you manage to find shirts both meant for detachable collars AND cuffs? I can only ever find shirts for detachable collars, but frustratingly they all come with their own attached single barrel cuffs.
@11kindpunk11
Жыл бұрын
Very complex getting ready tutorial. But nonetheless fascinating! Might be really interesting to do a modern spin on it.
@ki-adimundi8695
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much on making this video. I couldn't find any information online that could help me. I'm forever in thy debt! You earned a sub
@emiimuse7768
3 ай бұрын
The part where you struggle to put on the shirt reminds me of the times when us girls put on dresses, which is still a problem today! Some dresses need to have longer zips for easier access! Thank you so much for this video. You even talked about sleeve garters! That has been at the back of my mind whenever I watched movies and the actors wore it, but I never knew why. I thought it's so that the sleeves would stay in place when you put on the jacket, but always thought then the strap should have been closer to the sleeves. I'm rambling, I'm sorry, I really super appreciate this short and informative video! Thank you!
@clairemckinley691
4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! While my interest in clothing is fixed a bit earlier than what you show on your channel I enjoy watching every video anyway. Your sense of humour conveyed in your editing is a delight to see and I always learn a lot. Keep up the good work, thank you!
@lynnhobby32321
4 жыл бұрын
I found him through another creator who does historical clothing. History is what brought me here, his humor and knowledge are what keep me coming back. 😉
@jazzman1626
3 жыл бұрын
Do you ladies watch Bernadette Banner and Abby Cox videos too? I came across her channel while looking for vintage men’s clothes videos. They are amazing artists and crafts women. The dresses are so beautiful! I was so impressed , I subscribed.
@TheRefinedGentleman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this helped me make a pair of detachable kissing cuffs for a tunic shirt, to be worn with a very high wing collar and cravat, for morning dress.
@luxurreview
Жыл бұрын
How's the outfit coming along? Any compliments? I'm trying to build a Formal Morning Outfit with the striped pants and the cutaway coat.
@TheRefinedGentleman
Жыл бұрын
@@luxurreview It took me ages but it's finally finished, mainly because I kept finding things to improve. I can't really find anything to improve now, so in my mind it's done. Sourcing some of the obscure accessories like correct gloves was a bit difficult. l finished the cuffs a couple of weeks ago and also made another tunic shirt out of an old Eton shirt I found in a secondhand store. I'd recommend buying those trousers and the morning coat vintage, but stay away from the ex-rental stock due to weird fit and lower quality (for context I saw a 38R tagged rental coat fit like a 42 or 44). If cost isn't too much of an issue, getting them custom made might be the best option in terms of minimizing hassle and opening up for personalization. I basically got fed up with my local options for morning wear, decided to get mine custom made, then saved up for it. Not sure about the US, but if you're in the Commonwealth, some of the legal attire supply companies can do the striped trousers for you. They're usually a made to measure item due to their obscurity, which is nice if you want something with pleats and more classically cut. The one I dealt with imports the striped fabric directly from England. I haven't had a chance to wear my ensemble in public yet, but I'm looking forward to it! I got my second top hat (which is an immaculate silk plush top hat) for cheap, and an Edwardian pocket watch and fob this past week, so I have been dying to wear it and show them off. If you're still looking for a morning coat, details like pick stitching, satin covered buttons and silk piping around the lapels can add a really nice touch and help up the formality of your coat, so shouldn't be overlooked.
@TF2SlyGuySaysHi
Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about how to iron clothing!
@thetokensaregood1965
3 жыл бұрын
Can you wear a collar clip with a stiff starched collar?
@lakechamp529
2 жыл бұрын
2 am and I’m learning how to dress fancy.
@ВасяИванов-и7б1и
4 жыл бұрын
Will you make the video about the Victorian footwear and accessories, such as spats?
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@alec3049
3 жыл бұрын
all that clothing you have to undo to use the toilet...
@genericmannequin
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm really looking forward to learning more about collars. I've been hoping that you would talk about them so this is real treat. This video had some great information, keep up the good work!
@bapinchakraborty5329
2 ай бұрын
People dressed so elegantly back then.
@kaiakakos
4 жыл бұрын
This is experimental archeology!! I imagine myself discovering these studs and collars and bibs...and wondering what the hell are they and how to use them...very nice video, thank you!
@philipcarli3718
Жыл бұрын
Where can you get bibs or dickeys? I have found exactly ONE company in Australia and they charge 117 AUD for each!!
@howler1579
Жыл бұрын
I haven't found many companies that sell bibs, and the few that do sell charge quite a bit. Oxfordcollars on Etsy sell one, but it's still expensive.
@flazay_da
3 жыл бұрын
stumbled across this when doing research for fashionable bibs and had no idea they already existed! I love the idea of modernizing the layers of victorian fashion
@eog0579
2 жыл бұрын
I've just found your channel as I was struggling with my shirt collar! Just the job thank you! Do you have any advice on sizes in your videos? I.e are the collar sizes critical to the shirt size?
@AntiqueMenswear
2 жыл бұрын
The stiff collar should be 0.5-1 inch bigger than your average shirt size, and try to get your shirt 0.5-1 inch smaller than the collar.
@michaelbell3952
4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed how the hell did you get these shirts
@1920sman
3 жыл бұрын
Finally some one else who is interested in and wears this kind of thing!!! I have been looking for this since the early 1990s. What a delight to come across you and I look forward to exploring your other videos. Thank you.
@Terri_MacKay
4 жыл бұрын
I subscribe to your channel because of my interest in history. I find it fascinating how much attention was paid to the smallest details of clothing, male and female. Your videos are educational and done with a sense of humour...I've learned so much from you.
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that means a lot 😁
@lizamcilwee4774
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information! I am in the process of making a ladies early 1900s silk blouse This helps a lot in my decision to make the cotton collar and cuffs for it detachable. I was having concerns about how to clean it knowing that the collar and cuffs get dirty easily and silk is not laundered the same as cotton.
@lufsolitaire5351
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I always knew shirts were longer so they didn’t pull as much when tucked in but the use as underwear is fascinating. Makes sense now that regular modern underwear seems to get in the way and causes some awkward slipping when worn with pre-1920 clothing.
@jazzman1626
2 жыл бұрын
I must be getting old. I remember when I was a boy, shirts still all had tails on them like the one in this video. And yes, they kept yer bum (backside) warmer in winter. I remember gathering the bits together and reaching between my legs to pull the shirt tail from behind, like he did in the video lol.
@txborn668
4 жыл бұрын
Love this video. On a whim I bought some detachable collars last year and haven't had the chance to wear them or even begin to know how to attach them successfully. I will for sure be referring to this video once the world is back to normal.
@moscas85
3 жыл бұрын
Please please make a video about how so starch collars at home so that they are stiff and smooth
@AntiqueMenswear
3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!!!
@Mr.BondMan1812
Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your collarless shirts and collars from?
@luxurreview
Жыл бұрын
Darcy Clothing is a great store with many shirts and collars to choose from, and Stanley Ley is a great outfitter that sells similar items including Cashmere Striped Trousers
@johanjohansen7572
4 жыл бұрын
I just watched all your videos and I love this channel! Can't wait for the future content!
@ATOMiiCChicken
4 жыл бұрын
Thank u hes my twin :) im really proud of him and his channel
@Devinadamsont
Ай бұрын
Hey I’m quite curious if the bib can be used to white tie? I can’t seem to find a stiff front shirt for white tie so I’d curious to see if a bib would work
@thiirane4279
4 жыл бұрын
That is the video I have been looking for ! Many many thanks !
@JamesMilliganJr
3 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt that the starched detachable collars are much better looking than today's rather flimsy attached collars. Good video. Is there anyplace that sells detachable collars today at all? If so, please let me know. Thanks.
@jaredburchak1155
2 жыл бұрын
Darcy Clothing has a selection of collars and the corresponding shirts
@JamesMilliganJr
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredburchak1155 Is it on line?
@ATOMiiCChicken
4 жыл бұрын
how dfid u fall from the sky at the ginning lol
@AntiqueMenswear
Жыл бұрын
i hav ginning fall hacks
@Viva-Cristo-Rey-
3 жыл бұрын
Hello great video! I am getting into mens fashion from the same age as you. I like it a lot. My fiancee holds this interest too. So it's turning out to be quite the hobby. Now I am saving up for my first set of "every day" clothing. I am about 3/4 finished with an Edwardian white tie dress as well.
@handle_unknown
Жыл бұрын
How would you use the tie stick pin with the bib? It sorta doesn't work for me 😅
@johnkracy9190
28 күн бұрын
My good fellow ,may you please point me in the direction where I might be able to purchase the proper pins and collars? Thank you Heaps.
@mattc.1292
4 жыл бұрын
Hi could you do a Q&A? Do you wear this stuff on a day to day basis or just for videos etc? Cheers
@AntiqueMenswear
4 жыл бұрын
I'm an everyday Edwardian. A Q&A sounds fun though!
@d.b.446
Жыл бұрын
I have a question: a detachable collar of the type "imperial" should be attached inside or outside the undercollar (which is connected to the shirt)? If outside, then doesn't it lose its original function of protecting the shirt fabric from sweat?
@dandy2111
2 жыл бұрын
¡Excelente video! Muchas gracias. Lo saludo desde Argentina.
@jabscha7051
4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the prototypical Englishman of my American childhood really exists
@AlfredSoul
5 ай бұрын
Nothing I could find elsewhere on the internet was as helpful as this video on the subject!
@ricktalks7420
2 ай бұрын
Excellent video , really not much on this topic . Thanks 👍🏻
@ericasklar4584
9 ай бұрын
This truly answered all my questions about collars and dickies etc....my great grandma used to try and explain them. All the classic movies I watch I will now understand much more about the clothes and mens shirts. Thank you for answering every question I had and more!
@martinharris5017
3 ай бұрын
This is a great history lesson and a demo on how to wear these collars. I LOVE vintage and classic menswear but I draw the line at these infernal things! I admire your dedication and patience in using detachable collars :)
@SolarpunkVince
9 ай бұрын
Super interesting! I was recently in an antique shop that had a big collection of beautiful detachable collars and I'd never seen anything like it so I got curious how it worked (there was one design I was really tempted to by but I had no clue how to wear it so I didn't) and it was quite hard to find any information online before I found this video (part of the issue might've been incorrect search terms since I only saw them and didn't know how to refer to them) Anyway, thanks!
@cartd579
Жыл бұрын
I am having trouble finding the detachable collars. Please recommend where to purchase the collars, and name the different styles.
@helenharrison6550
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining all of these pieces of menswear I’ve seen in period films!!!
@nickkeeling9554
Жыл бұрын
Hello! I love this tutorial so much, however I am finding trouble in acquiring a collar that fits my neck (46cm) any advice on where to go for larger or custom collars?
@PaulTheSkeptic
Жыл бұрын
That was very informative. Where do I get this stuff and hopefully not spend too much money?
@Htonartnomed
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any advice about how to measure your neck for a detachable stiff collar. I'm at a loss. Every measurement I take gives me a different size, I don't know how high on the neck I need to measure, I get differing advice on the amount of fingers you need to put behind the measuring tape when measuring, and I'm not sure whether the size I get from measuring my neck should be for the shirt or the collar. I've been putting off ordering collars/shirts for months now because I'm too scared to get it wrong and throw away the investement. Do you have any advice?
@Robinom
2 жыл бұрын
Hi i am finding it hard to choose the right collar size..I am a 16 and followed the half and inch collar rule 16.5 the collar seems to big I tried an old 16 collar with it and it fitted perfectly does it depend on the collar the size? I guess trial and error!!😜 thanks
@DrFranklynAnderson
2 жыл бұрын
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle sent me here! 😆 I’ve been reading his complete Sherlock Holmes and noticed it’d sometimes mention guys writing notes on their shirt cuffs. I learned from Google that those were sometimes made of paper in the Victorian era, then found this vid to see how they work!
@jazzman1626
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried to find an antique stud puller but can’t find one online anywhere. Although I have a new one on order from Darcy Clothing, I would like an antique one because I like the idea that it was used every day by someone at the time detachable collars were commonplace.
@polkadot8788
3 жыл бұрын
I was a little confused by the collar measurements for buying detachable collars. As a lady I've never had to find out my collar size before. Any tips?
@DavidWilliams-kr6dy
Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon sir , my compliments to you for producing this video . I recently wore a starched shirt with a detachable collar after being advised to do so by my father . The collar looked like one to be found on the average shirt but much better quality . The collar and shirt being white of course .
@Redbeard82
2 жыл бұрын
Wow , Great Video . Im starting to change my actual look to the 1920 s look. There are so many small things to make a Good finish
@jakecavendish3470
11 ай бұрын
We had to wear detachable collars at school and now I wear them for work. My tip is if you rub soap inside them they are slightly less painful
@WillVafuth
9 ай бұрын
Where can one obtain those shirts? My sewing skill are less than what is necessary for converting one.... and Etsy does not seem to have anything in my neck size.
@CharlieRomanJazz
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to start wearing these style collars, do I need to buy the special shirts you were speaking of, or do I have the option of using them on shirts I already own with attached collars? Thank you!!
@CharlieRomanJazz
3 жыл бұрын
@the Earl of Oxfordshire thank you!
@electrogestapo
Жыл бұрын
What I learned form all this, is that because of the inconvenience of washing a whole shirt because of some dirt on the collar led to the convenience of a detachable collar, which inadvertently led to all other detachable things such as the bib and cuffs which summarily takes more effort to put on than a simple shirt with built in cuffs and collar. Well, at least the wife was happy.
@grimes558
3 жыл бұрын
Apprieciate the video! Going as Arthur Morgan for Comic-Con so this will be useful.
@Salih.EduBlock
Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video. Thank you. I love fashion and your style of teaching some history.
@shelby_company_limited6211
2 жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I would like to know some details, tell me where you can buy collars and cuffs, I am from Russia and we do not have them, tell me? Or maybe you sell them? Or do you have your own store
@jkrause365
3 жыл бұрын
I have recently discarded several shirts whose collars had worn out. If I had a detachable collar or two on hand, I might have been able to salvage an otherwise good shirt. Yes, I might have turned the collar, but there were removable collar stays in little pockets on the underside of the collars. Too bad detachable collars have disappeared.
@mm-yt8sf
3 жыл бұрын
haha if someone had told me to use a french barrier, i might've guessed it was some contraceptive :) hmm i'd imagine that when the detachable things were invented they'd be seen as a cheat, but did they become so ubiquitous over time that they were just considered normal clothes? though i guess if that were the case, then attached collars and cuffs might be seen as archaic...but since we have those nowadays i guess they never died out...or maybe they did and we in the future are extremely retro..
@immog.federolf6939
Жыл бұрын
Should the shirt collar size be bigger than with a shirt that would not be worn with Collar studs? I bought two such shirts and the front button feels a bit uncomfortable. Is this normal?
@makettaja
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I've been making my own clothes for a year now and I have really gotten in to this style but there is so little information about it anywhere. So thanks. This really helps me when I design my own shirt 😎
@matthewv805
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating how much men used to have to do to dress themselves... Thanks for the video!
@johil_sehgal
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed this in Peaky Blinders and i was searching it alot and finally got it, Moreover, I'll also try it 😍😉
@sftommy01
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somewhere in life I ended up with a bag of detachable collars - couple dozen - never knew what to do with them until now.
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