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@EvieBats2
Ай бұрын
I love you promoting ground news. Only news app I use!
@danielpreval4062
2 ай бұрын
i saw a tiktok that said that the most hated women on the internet are the ones that usually needed the most help.
@lordfreerealestate8302
2 ай бұрын
Trisha discredited Moses' SA victims. She almost caused Hila Klein to have a miscarriage. I'd rather stand by those women, even as someone who survived trauma and mental illness myself.
@rocketpoweredunicorn
Ай бұрын
@@lordfreerealestate8302 The discrediting the SA victims is what makes me 🤢 when I think about her. but blaming Trisha for the near miscarriage has always seemed especially unwarranted, especially since Ethan could have put the phone down and focused on his very pregnant wife instead of engaging Trisha after the frenemies breakup. The blaming of Trisha at all was just fueling the drama instead of focusing on Hila. This is the point where I unfollowed H3, actually, Ethan had seemed so king baby to me.
@SebastianWoj
2 ай бұрын
You posted this the same time she was in Katy perrys music video😭😭 Perfect timing
@HandsAnts
2 ай бұрын
huh? Katy Perry MV is out?
@jillparker6553
2 ай бұрын
Oh shit
@umakemegiggle14
2 ай бұрын
YESSSSSS
@fugitive_
2 ай бұрын
YES I JUST SAW THAT POST 😭 i dont really like katy perry but good for trish
@jillparker6553
2 ай бұрын
@@fugitive_ I think people are mad because of Katy working with Dr. Luke
@NoFirstNoLastName
2 ай бұрын
The Katy Perry video 😂 it’s two steps forward, one step back, one jump to the side, cha cha slide for Trisha.
@lukesouthern3640
Ай бұрын
we dont need to keep policing each step though, otherwise it would just keep recycling the same hate-train and root-for-the-underdog superficial narratives over and over again.
@littleguy8714
2 ай бұрын
Yeah I think people turned the dial too far and went “DONT BULLY HER!!!” when someone brings up a genuine reason to not support her! I just saw a video today where someone was like “ugh just leave her alone” ok…. I’m not putting hate in her comments but I’m certainly not going to forget or condone her actions
@doodadsdandy
2 ай бұрын
I agree, the entire shift to “Trisha is relatable and delulu :)))” is getting cranked a Bit too far into condoning her prior actions bc of entertainment
@joshadcock1035
2 ай бұрын
I think it's great she has improved her behavior but at the same time I do roll my eyes when she tries to call out other problematic people on her podcast. It's like girl you were doing worse things a couple years ago.
@buckyyyb
Ай бұрын
Let’s focus on that statement “a couple of years ago” that implies a while, time has passed. So how much time needs to pass before someone is deemed grown enough by you? What’s the X-amount of years needed to grow and change as a human to be deemed worthy? Are people have a change of heart in an instant, overnight, or a week not worthy? What about when you said something that hurt someone and apologized and then showed your actions reflected that? If you had ended your comment with “and here’s an example from recently that shows she is still the same” then what you said would matter. You’re not perfect, so i really, really don’t think by your own standards, with things you have done in the PAST or a few years ago warrant you calling her out, do they? Pot meet kettle
@joshadcock1035
Ай бұрын
@@buckyyyb maybe you should re-exam some of the things she did in her past. Including claiming she identified as a "trans woman" and even wearing black face. Sorry but it's going to take a lot of time and work before I give a complete pass to someone who mocked other people's sexualities cultures. My point was that she really has no room to be standing on such a high pedestal judging other peoples behavior when her entire content use to be built around acting inappropriately. I'm not saying she hasn't changed but that doesn't mean she doesn't look hypocritical calling out people who do the things she use to do. Mistakes can be forgiven but that doesn't mean we should forget. I Never claimed to be perfect and I'm far from it but I don't put myself out there judging other peoples behavior on my own podcast either.
@cherrymima
Ай бұрын
let's normalize people changing opinions, perspectives and behaviors. We want and desire people to change but when they do we look back at their past and hold those judgements against them. It's a double standard. A lot can happen and change in a few years. I am not as horrifically traumatized and codependent as I was 3 yrs ago, and many of my opinions have changed. I wouldn't want someone saying "yeah but 3 years ago you said this!!" It's redundant and lacks any sort of critical thought
@joshadcock1035
Ай бұрын
@@cherrymima Sorry but actions have consequences. Things we do in the past can stick with us forever. I'm all about forgiving and second chances but that doesn't mean they get a free pass as if the past didn't happen. This is just my opinion and you are free to think what you want but you are not going to change how I feel on this situation.
@cherrymima
Ай бұрын
@@joshadcock1035 not trying to change how u feel but def a very immature outlook to have.
@SimplesmenteAnne
2 ай бұрын
I think a great deal of things contributed to her image being more favorable, not only the pregnancy and colleen. On frenemies she could talk about how she was bullied while being friends with david dobrik, her friendship with shane dawson falling apart, and a few more
@liesbeneathoureyes
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention Trisha and Ethan IMMACULATELY taking down Jeff Wittek on air when he was pathetically trying to defend David Dobrik and Dom the r*pist. Trisha really was instrumental in blowing that coverup wide open and holding VlogSquad members like Jeff accountable for their roles in enabling SA and sweeping it under the rug. (Fortunately Jeff has apologised and reflected upon his horrible actions and is now friends with Ethan and Trisha)
@zgirlbrooks101
2 ай бұрын
Well, actually no - it's not just that: Everytime Trisha is paired with (or does any collab) with a male content creator [like Ethan] - her stories are always validated [or made more believable] when there is a man sitting next to her. She and Ethan even talked about this on Frenemies. People have a very a very (unconscious) sexist and (internally) misogynist view when they speak on her
@Kermitt_thee_frog23
2 ай бұрын
I mentioned this briefly in my own comment but I feel like Trisha was often subjected to misogyney & "anti-bimbo" rhetoric by those KZitemrs. Back in the 2010s it was really common for people to make fun of girls & women like Trisha (ultra feminine, hot pink, "bimbo" aesthetic). That paired with Trisha's negative reputation on the internet made her an easy target. She was always the butt of the joke & they'd put her down in a way that would prop them up (there's always this sort of "authentic" nice guy vs the dumb bimbo dynamic). While Trisha did sometimes play into it, there were times where it went too far & put her in uncomfortable situations (even when she'd say something they wouldn't stop). In a way, they kinda dehumanized Trisha & I don't blame her for getting fed up.
@JaiProdz
2 ай бұрын
@@liesbeneathoureyes ironic since Trisha's husband has SA allegations
@mimicoolwhip5991
2 ай бұрын
Hallelujah @@JaiProdz for speaking truth. Thought I fell into an alternate reality seeing these comments, what are these ppl thinking considering all the stuff Trisha has done?? Evey one of these stories Trisha "exposed" or stood up to are ALL stories she is a complete hypocrite by doing so &/or was part of the controversy but conveniently forgot to mention it. Disgusting.
@danielgudinojuarez6729
2 ай бұрын
Personally, I feel Trisha has always gotten away scott free even with the amount of troubles and allegations she faced in the past. I never trusted her, and still stands on that fact!! 😒😒😒
@miguelstarboy5572
Ай бұрын
exactly, even when she apologized or talks about her past it's so fake and exploitative, she'd say and do anything for attention
@lmnlstes
Ай бұрын
SAME!!! She’s definitely a fascist.
@nicolovespanda
Ай бұрын
I was never a "fan" of her, but loved watching her performance antics. Then I grew up
@solarmoth4628
2 ай бұрын
I feel like being a “troll” is just an excuse to disrespect minorities without consequences. Why do people think it’s okay to say ignorant things as along as they say they don’t mean it? They shouldn’t be saying it all.
@lordfreerealestate8302
2 ай бұрын
FACTS. She also discredited Moses' SA victims, almost caused Hila Klein to have a miscarriage, and has multiple accusations of abuse against her.
@mette9279
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Even if people dont "mean" it, it normalizes those type of comments
@beckyNZ
2 ай бұрын
@@lordfreerealestate8302she did not almost cause hila to have a miscarriage ffs what’s wrong with you
@dramaticvirghoe
2 ай бұрын
@@lordfreerealestate8302that was ethan’s mom who said that. how do you cause another woman’s miscarriage if you’re not in the same house lmao be fr hila could just turn off the wifi hello???
@kristiekane4963
2 ай бұрын
This. All of this
@BlackXSunlight
2 ай бұрын
Keeping this open in one tab in case Kayla takes this down 😂
@calliebration
2 ай бұрын
Lil fyi: being Jewish is an ethnoreligion! You can be religiously Jewish and/or ethnically Jewish Otherwise, great video!
@makemesomecoffee7821
2 ай бұрын
I've been a bit confused on how you can be Jewish as an ethnicity. I am not trying to be rude, I would just like to understand better.
@NoFirstNoLastName
2 ай бұрын
@@makemesomecoffee7821the better term is Hebraic, imo, as we are descendant from the Hebrews. There is other terminology, but the distinct features that follow most of us Jews come from those origins. I am a Texas Jew Christian. It’s easier to say Jewish due to most kinda getting the point.
@makemesomecoffee7821
2 ай бұрын
@@NoFirstNoLastName Thank you. ❤
@liesbeneathoureyes
2 ай бұрын
@@makemesomecoffee7821Jewish people includes three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion, those who have some Jewish ancestral background or lineage (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), and people without any Jewish ancestral background or lineage who have formally converted to Judaism and therefore are followers of the religion
@liesbeneathoureyes
2 ай бұрын
@@jmg999that is an oversimplification. It’s possible to resist and critique the ongoing atrocities committed by the Israeli state without making silly generalisations like this.
@marli4081
2 ай бұрын
I think that a lot of people recently have been absolving her of the harm she’s done because she’s now a parent, hella bonus points cause she’s been wanting kids for so long and thought she may be infertile. I really dislike this notion that once you become a parent, people around you view you as a saint, as that is almost never the case. I’ve seen it online and I’ve seen it in real life, most people will praise you for having kids no matter your past or how awful you are of a person, cause it’s a “selfless” thing to do and you’re “finally mature” to have become a “real adult.” Having a kid won’t make you less of a shitty person and people will still remember how you’ve hurt them. She’s still done awful things and hurt a lot of different groups, including one I am a part of, and I hate that people on tiktok don’t seem to remember, or know, as you’ve mentioned, what she’s done (or they don’t seem to care, which is another issue.) I know Shane Dawson is trying to have a kid via surrogacy, at least the last I heard, will people try to redeem him if that becomes a reality? I’m not sure. I feel like when you put becoming a parent in the mix, people perceiving these new parents seem to lose their morals.
@coolchameleon21
2 ай бұрын
THISS!!!
@Phd366
2 ай бұрын
Have you listen to Aaron Abke? He talks about forgiveness and spiritual balance. 😊
@lordfreerealestate8302
2 ай бұрын
@@Phd366 Often, forgiving bad people can just let them hurt more people and leave the victims without justice. Trisha hasn't magically become a good person because she's had a child. In fact, I'm often concerned with her using her child for clout/money on her "family channel".
@nixiemartian4658
2 ай бұрын
No one says she's all of a sudden a saint, but she's worked for years on becoming a better person and actually has been able to achieve that. And I think it's a really good marker for mentally ill people with her same illness, BPD, of what they can achieve. She's learned from things.She's grown as a person.She's apologized.She's taken accountability and she's moved on. I don't really see the benefit of holding past shit against you if you're willing to change. It's the same concept of prison reform.
@marli4081
2 ай бұрын
@@nixiemartian4658 You aren’t in a place to forgive her personally unless she’s hurt a group of people you are apart of. I am, and I don’t personally forgive her for the things she’s done in the past because I wouldn’t necessarily say she’s put in the work in order to be forgiven. I’m mostly trying to say that I believe when people have kids, those around them are more likely to forgive them and put them on a pedestal because they are now a parent, and I believe that that is happening with the public perception of Trisha to an extent. Having children doesn’t absolve you from your past, you’re not a new person once you have kids
@clairephillips8226
2 ай бұрын
fyi apparently a former classmate of trishas did come forward and coroborate her story about the teacher doing disgusting things to multiple girls, it was a while ago so i dont remember the details but i remember paige christie did a video on it edited to change the word "verify" to "coroborate" as i feel its more accurate. but to be clear, i still believe trisha and her former classmate are telling the truth
@dabatman5187
2 ай бұрын
Yeah tbh just because someone didn’t get arrested doesn’t disprove shit
@brandyB19
2 ай бұрын
Paige's video was trash and didn't prove anything. Trisha said basically EVERY teacher molested her, but then in a past video said nothing weird ever happened with teachers, and THEN said SHE was a little Lolita and even made a video teaching kids how to seduce their teachers. She's a pathological liar. Period.
@Rampala
2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That line about "there's no arrest record" really threw me for a loop because... No shit? Most SA crimes don't get reported for years, if ever. The chances of there being an arrest record are tiny, regardless of the validity of the claim!
@brandyB19
2 ай бұрын
@@Rampala she said he got caught with CP on his computer and that's why he was fired.... He'd be in prison for life and there would ABSOLUTELY be a record of that, or at the very least a news story.
@Ashbrash1998
2 ай бұрын
@brandymarie1872 Schools are mandated reporters, they legally have to vall the police
@annikajh71
2 ай бұрын
Hey Kayla, Have you ever considered getting professional closed captions done or doing them yourself so the Deaf audience (including me) can have full access to your content? The auto-generated are censored, lack punctuation, and are completely missing in many parts (especially if you have outside audio), which makes them largely inaccessible to Deaf and Hard-of-Hearing viewers. Can't wait to view your videos in full!
@kaylasays
2 ай бұрын
Hello! I didn’t know this! I can definitely look into closed captioning for future videos! Thanks for the flag, friend.
@annikajh71
2 ай бұрын
@@kaylasays No problem, Kayla!
@Brandoncye
2 ай бұрын
That would be cool! I can hear, but like to have the CC on to read along and see if it matches word for word! 😅
@kitenlovar699
2 ай бұрын
i wish i could caption videos tbh. or that anyone could (obviously that could be abused..) i always considered that some people really need or would enjoy captions. i would and i do not need them. helps me focus.
@kitenlovar699
2 ай бұрын
@@Brandoncyeyeah i simply am neurodivergent it helps me to focus by reading along.
@donnaimanbrown
2 ай бұрын
Admittedly this comment isn’t about Trisha, but more about forgiveness. In the way that we’re talking about being nuanced and compassionate in how we relate to these controversial figures, I guess I would just ask that that also be applied to people who don’t feel that the transgressions have been adequately addressed. Forgiveness isn’t something you’re owed. You have to demonstrate that you’re intrinsically motivated to right your wrongs regardless of the reception or people’s reaction. Which you do by recognizing past mistakes, commiting to changing your behavior, and being willing to go through the process again when you inevitably make another mistake. It’s just kind of disorienting to me how often we talk about like how a person can be forgiven but we don’t really acknowledge like what has this person done to even invite people to forgive them? Cause most of the time what people have done is just ignore the fact that they made a mistake, and move on to “a different chapter of their life”. If you’re just abandoning the people you’ve hurt, to treat their own wounds, nothings been done to correct anything.
@nixiemartian4658
2 ай бұрын
What more can she do? She's taken accountability. She's apologized. She's admitted that she was ignorant.She clearly regrets a lot of the shit she did. For me, all you need for forgiveness is to know what you did wrong. Acknowledge it, apologize, and then I think you can move on. Otherwise, you're just gonna hold something against someone until the end of time because you don't want forgiveness. You want revenge.
@ahqeeef
Ай бұрын
@@nixiemartian4658 shes a huge zionist who abused her husband. she obviously isnt a good person.
@mistflowers
Ай бұрын
@@donnaimanbrown very well said!
@mistflowers
Ай бұрын
@@nixiemartian4658 trisha’s whole image is being a problematic troll. that’s literally what she built her platform off. so i don’t think you can distance her from that because that’s the content SHE put out there for people to see. digital footprint is a real thing. she made a living off offending people, so it’s no wonder why people aren’t forgiving her. the apologies seem insincere. you can say she’s apologized but she’s still the same problematic person, sitting on podcasts, judging others for their behavior while she made her career off homophobia, transphobia, and racism. many of her fans think she’s owed forgiveness because “she apologized” but we were taught in elementary school that apologies don’t make everything okay and the passage of time doesn’t make it okay. my point is tho, u can’t separate her from her “problematic side” because she’s made her whole persona being problematic. how can people be blamed for not forgiving her when she’s the one responsible for how she’s seen now?
@triggerfish9967
2 ай бұрын
She still rubs me the wrong way. She's just pulled way too much crap. Cancelled in my book.
@LostCommenter7
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the nuance you approached this with, it's valuable and rare on the internet. When it comes to Trisha Paytas I wouldn't care if she wanted to go into sunset with her kids or w/e. She's clearly a troubled person with trauma, and that can lead someone to dark places. I just can't stand this weepy and saccharine, re-writing of Trisha's legacy on the internet from users (like those girls doing the Jessica Simpson dance or the other tiktok user) when she did foul, bigoted shit and by virtue of being a 'troll' and 'tasteless' she can obfuscate responsibility. Like oh sure you spent your 20s/30s shitting on minorities and saying foul things, but your mom now so I guess it's fine. Like I'm not saying anyone should harass her, but stop giving her attention for god's sake.
@h0ojn-c1j
2 ай бұрын
what im sayin
@FormalFilmsProductions
2 ай бұрын
Agree
@jasperjazzie
2 ай бұрын
i honestly just think she doesn't need an online presence as big as she does. not even in a "deplatform her!!" kind of way but like. we really should just not give her attention and she needs to get off the internet. go deal w ur trauma, go be with ur kids, idk.
@japansace
2 ай бұрын
Does nobody remember how she pretended to have DID?
@jennys1983
2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for that to be mentioned
@JhoJhoMojo
2 ай бұрын
Also, how she pretended to have schizophrenia.
@theonlybingledingle
Ай бұрын
Right? Yall can forgive her, and like her now, that’s cool. She still fucking sucks. She has harmed communities and she just gets to bask in it.
@Belisonte-dl4gd
2 ай бұрын
I swear my third eye opened when you pointed out Trisha Paytas is a Reality TV character
@jordancastillo9654
Ай бұрын
Her bio says “I am Andy Kaufman” that’s all ppl need to know about her she’s pure entertainment and that’s all she wants to be
@ohmygodavid9135
2 ай бұрын
the frenemies clips still kill me to this day 😂 😭😭💀
@pigeondance
2 ай бұрын
never liked her trolling or her content, that's why I never got into trisha lore... so this was interesting!
@dolchii
2 ай бұрын
in her own podcast, she lets go of her trolling persona. tries very hard to not be controversial. in outside podcasts, the podcast watchers find her character jarring lol.
@rj-sn7rq
2 ай бұрын
The Palestine comments are DISGUSTING like it’s not a team sport
@Blue-jk5fy
2 ай бұрын
exactly! it's probably one of the most complex international relations issues in history. There's no "right team" and "wrong team".
@Yamainthejar
2 ай бұрын
@@Blue-jk5fy There is absolutely a "wrong team" when one side is actively committing g*n*cide and has been for over 75 years.
@bean2046
2 ай бұрын
And that is exactly why public figures don't want to speak up about it. Are you going to provide a comprehensive list with perfectly acceptable phrasings? She gave the most "random person, who is not politically educated" take on it and if you turn to Trisha Paytas for a nuanced and in depth analysis on the conflict, that's on you.
@liesbeneathoureyes
2 ай бұрын
@@Blue-jk5fyI mean one group is actively committing g*nocide against another group…. it’s really not that complicated. On the scale of problematic things Trisha could have said about the topic, “I support Palestine” is really a strange thing for people to be complaining about
@indigocharles7445
2 ай бұрын
@@Blue-jk5fythere’s literally is a right and wrong side
@chancexedward
2 ай бұрын
I think it was a missed opportunity to not mention her fallout with Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star where a lot of people rightfully took her side
@craisins95
2 ай бұрын
I never understood her appeal but you’ve managed to explain it to me in a way that makes sense. For the sake of everyone else in her world, I hope she learns more and becomes a less ignorant person.
@shanecasey8365
2 ай бұрын
she's fine. I hope you find happiness as well.
@empressfreya9872
2 ай бұрын
While I appreciate the fact that she grew, I'm too jaded by online creators to not wait for her to turn into an asshole again. I find the fact that people online act like she ever actually apologized and is now so wholesome weird
@thesovgc
2 ай бұрын
I often find myself wishing your videos were longer and more thought out. I think you have the chops for long form content. I get it's not nearly as lucrative due to its turnaround time. Maybe someday.
@Octobris
2 ай бұрын
Backhanded 😂
@thesovgc
2 ай бұрын
@@Octobris me? never! 😇
@bede42069
2 ай бұрын
girl she just collabed with dr luke and katy perry
@kaylasays
2 ай бұрын
I cannot believe this happened LMAO
@bees.857
2 ай бұрын
100% NOT SHOCKING
@BiPhBiPhBiPhBiPh
2 ай бұрын
Trust nothing will happen to her, she navigates dramas like obstacle course 😂
@workinprogress3329
2 ай бұрын
Trisha will do an apology podcast and everyone will call her “my problematic fave” and she will be fine.
@manicpepsicola3431
2 ай бұрын
@@bees.857 weird of you to trash your daughter 💀
@lilygirllisa
2 ай бұрын
The only way to be 100 % canceled is for your own fanbase to leave you, but her fans don't have any morals and weren't truly offended by anything that she's done.
@theonlybingledingle
Ай бұрын
BAM!
@LEEBLISSY
Ай бұрын
not just that Colleen was "being a bully", it's that she was specifically sending her only fans pictures to CHILDREN. the fact that it was to make fun of her is only incidental to the fact that she was sending revenge porn of her to children, and THEN tricked Trisha into thinking colleen truly wanted to be her friend. that she would do this when the fact that trisha was a KNOWN csa survivor is probably the most disgusting bit of it. I have truly truly never been a Trisha stan, she was always too much for me, but when I saw trishas response to all this I really couldn't help but feel heartbroken for her. colleen really is such a monster lmao
@limeonade_limesoda
2 ай бұрын
I understand she's growing a better reputation now, but am I the only one who isn't able to see her as someone who deserves a platform after that impersonation of JonBenet Ramsey she did? I get she's changed and all, but I just don't think somebody who could mock a dead child like that really deserves a 'redemption arc'. Sometimes people just go too far. But if she's really changed and isn't just putting up a new online persona that's more marketable, I guess my opinion is irrelevant. I just hope that she's actually changed and that it isn't just another face to sell.
@ThatFont
2 ай бұрын
Personally, I was never a fan of her. My ex friend always defended her (if you’re a good person, why do you need to be defended) and she always came across as click-baity which doesn’t interest me.
@catsforcomms1952
2 ай бұрын
“If you’re a good person why do you need to be defended” is crazy, give it some thought
@ThatFont
2 ай бұрын
@@catsforcomms1952 Most regular people go through life without needing a fan base to defend their public image, so please do explain your thoughts…
@SimplyDivineTV14
2 ай бұрын
this being posted ten minutes after the women's world mv 😭 kayla, ur going 2 have 2 do a retraction!
@erikae6183
2 ай бұрын
THE DR LUKE OF IT ALL
@kaylasays
2 ай бұрын
I could not have predicted this insanity
@SimplyDivineTV14
2 ай бұрын
@@erikae6183 right...
@SimplyDivineTV14
2 ай бұрын
@@kaylasays me neither queen 😭😭
@mikufan1212
2 ай бұрын
@@kaylasays wdym if anything trisha is consistent because she stans nicki minaj who also worked with dr luke and her own husband is a you kno what. On wikipedia it says Dr luke has worked with so many other artists like doja cat, saweetie, and kim petras. Kesha filed her lawsuit in 2014 and these artists still chosed to work with him.
@shalalala4875
Ай бұрын
I feel like it’s also worth thinking about who we subconsciously offer that compassion to- besides being plus size, Trisha is a conventionally attractive blonde white woman. Not saying she doesn’t deserve compassion or can grow as a person, but that that offers her a lot of privilege in being a villain/ “troll”
@jocelinecs312
2 ай бұрын
I've been online for about the same amount of time as Trisha Paytas has been famous and although I've never actually followed her, she's been the subject of so many videos made by all the different creators I've watched over the years. I don't have a strong opinion of her either way, but it's crazy how long she's been famous through so many cycles of KZitemrs.
@Manonthemoonhasleft
2 ай бұрын
Unbelievably well timed, Kayla
@heathmclaney9980
2 ай бұрын
The irony you posted this around the same time the new Katy Perry video came out.
@Nico_rod23
2 ай бұрын
I’ve never been faster at a Kayla video, haven’t finished it yet but I know it’ll be a banger as always
@teabird7433
2 ай бұрын
hi kayla, i am eating chinese takeout for dinner while watching this
@Man-ej6uv
2 ай бұрын
omg me too
@sharkyshark4814
Ай бұрын
Iconsss
@user-wh7cn2ke5j
2 ай бұрын
i thought this video was balanced, grounded in fact-based evidence, and sensitive to difficult and complex experiences and traumas. but i also think it is missing a really important aspect of trisha's internet persona, and that is her mental health, and the conversations surrounding her mental health by not just her, or the friends and family around her, but by viewers of her channel. the word "crazy" has become attached to trisha in way that i think is imporant to how we as an audience have perceived not only her actions, but also her "combacks" and "downfalls." trisha has always stood out to me compared to other problematic youtubers that came about in her era because of the way her mental health is this constant point of discussion. especially because at the beginning of her internet fame, people were far less worried about discussing mental health sensitively. she has admitted to faking mental illness diagnoses and break downs for her videos, making significant money turning these fake mental health experiences into side shows for the internet. side shows that only direct more stigma and misinformation towards the communities she was pretending to be a part of. however, she has also had very real mental health crises and break downs that have been used against her to devalue her trauma and experiences. from her viewers diagnosing her, to commentary channels diagnosing her, to folks actively tuning in to her channel to watch her have a break down on her kitchen floor, trisha both caused serious damage to the way in which mental health is discussed in online spaces, and yet was also-- and arguably still is--a victim of society's ignorance around mental health. i would also argue that in recent years, her openness with regards to her //real// mental health illnesses and experiences have taken bravery, and had a positive impact on the way mental health is discussed in some of these online spaces. i don't think your analysis should have included her actual medical history and diagnoses. nor do i think you needed to provide examples of any of these breakdowns, or lists of symptoms and how them might have influenced her behavior. in fact, i would rather a video leave mental health out of the conversation completely than violate a person's medical privacy for the sake of speculation. only trisha and the professionals who have worked with her should be commenting on the ways in which her mental health have affected her behavior. however, i do think that the way the public has perceived and discussed her mental health has played, and continues to play, a major role in her persona.
@nixiemartian4658
2 ай бұрын
This! It always frustrated me to no end that even though we have entered an era that seems to be more accepting of mental illness, it fully isn't. Like mental illness is acceptable when it's anxiety and or depression but up into a certain extent. When mentally ill people act mentally ill all of a sudden the mental health advocates disappear, and they get held to a standard of a normal person. I've noticed this a lot with those with BPD or bipolar on the internet or famous because these illnesses are prone to episodes of behaviors we in society may not deem as ok. And I think it's one thing to be a person actually in their lives versus watching them online. I don't think it's right. How such judgment is cast onto these people. Especially Trisha in specific, Because she has such a extensive online footprint of breakdowns and trolling and attention seeking behaviors No matter how much she grows or matures or apologizes, there's certain people who will never accept it because of that. It's unfortunate, but I think still in society those behaviors will always haunt you even if you've atoned.
@jillparker6553
2 ай бұрын
Glad to see you sponsored by Ground!!
@nikhilsonavane8939
2 ай бұрын
love the video but i was really thrown off when you said trisha said one of her teachers SA'd her but there's no arrest record, but that doesn't disprove anything? most of the SA crimes don't get reported so it doesn't mean it didn't happen??
@dramaticvirghoe
2 ай бұрын
right like literally worms for brains. not every SA gets reported
@whachutalkinboutwillis
2 ай бұрын
Trisha named a specific teacher and said he SA’d her and was later arrested for watching inappropriate context on his computer at work. She even told her audience to look him up and repeated his name. There was no arrest record for that person and he had a stellar reputation in her hometown. That’s what is being referenced here. She later said she got her stories mixed up. Meanwhile, this now deceased teacher had his name dragged through the mud.
@JhoJhoMojo
2 ай бұрын
Trisha said the teacher was arrested for watching CP on his computer and told all her audience to look it up and gave the dead teacher's name. The teacher was never arrested for CP.
@alejotinganell5653
2 ай бұрын
I am always looking forwards to your insights in these matters, Kayla! You clearly have both the pop culture enthusiam to be up to date with social media shenanigans and the academic knowledge to analise and have deep interesting stances about these issues ❤️
@adamjames6488
2 ай бұрын
How is the timing of this video when she JUST featured in Katy Perry’s latest music video?! 👀
@AlexandreFilho1705
2 ай бұрын
we are indeed witnessing the renaissance of this person
@oaklandcookie
Ай бұрын
"She claims to have been molested by a teacher but there is no arrest record." EXCUSE ME. There is usually not an arrest record because these incidents are under reported. IDK much about her but please reconsider using this as an example of her being a pathological liar. I'm a CSA survivor. There is no arrest record *because adults failed to protect me.*
@kaylasays
Ай бұрын
Sorry, should’ve elaborated more on this as others have in the comments…she said that the teacher got arrested for watching porn in the school, and there was no arrest record.
@emmy8961
Ай бұрын
I think one thing that helped was that she payed to get her snark subreddit taken down. There is like no place to discuss how problematic she is now which means most of the conversation about her follows the narrative she’s trying to portray
@maryav2968
2 ай бұрын
A quick note- the incident with her teacher has been proven by a couple credible sources. The absence of arrest reports, doesn’t disprove her statement. She talks about it a lot and you might be able to find more information with clips on her more recent podcast/ interviews. I can tell you worked hard on this video - I think~ her and her cohost Oscar were actually talking about enjoying your channel on the latest episode- so maybe reach out to them if you need clarity!? :)
@kaylasays
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the note on that, appreciate it- wait Trisha and Oscar talked about me?? Or am I misreading your comment lol
@JhoJhoMojo
2 ай бұрын
What credible sources? Please enlighten us on those sources you are talking about because I have never seen one.
@QueerCoral
Ай бұрын
Also possibly pretended (cant verify whether or not it was true or false) to have DID/a system (used to be known as multiple personality disorder). It REALLY ticked me off.
@kristiekane4963
2 ай бұрын
She rewrite history to her young audience on tik tok. She does this every 3-5 years. Shes completely lying and makes herself a victim. Fools a new audience, will mess up again online and starts the cycle over again
@greendaybmt
2 ай бұрын
I'm honestly pretty shocked at how things have come around for her. Two things can be true at once, and I do think it's important to remember toxic, problematic people ARE human too, even if they're famous. Maybe this is a step in the "let's freak out on them, but let's not completely freak out on everyone who posts something neutral about them" direction? I see the same thing happening with Michael Jackson (NOT in any way comparable, but it's another celebrity being... forgiven? Or embraced? despite their awful actions) and like, it makes me kinda uncomfortable. I don't know how to feel about it.
@axumbaloch
2 ай бұрын
honestly getting exposed to many variations of topics and ppl every single day, i learned how important it is to stay neutral sometimes, especially when it is not our place to decide whether to forgive n forget.
@uhsaywhatnow
2 ай бұрын
Ok but is there anything that she does that requires so much collective attention? Watching someone become unproblematic shouldn’t be considered content. That‘a just as attention seeking as being problematic in the first place.
@theonlybingledingle
Ай бұрын
Please say this again and again. And another time for good measure.
@SpectreSaunders
2 ай бұрын
Did she?...
@bees.857
2 ай бұрын
The internet is brain dead so... Yeah.
@Jupiter9331
2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. After everything she has done over the years including false SA allegations and we all just forgive her?
@Aster_Risk
2 ай бұрын
@@Jupiter9331Not all. Just people who don't care about ethics, have no real moral code or are just as immature as Trish. No one worth knowing is a fan of Trish.
@fugitive_
2 ай бұрын
The first time I saw trish on KZitem was her “I’m addicted to coke” video
@omriex7
2 ай бұрын
Thanks Kayla for another really interesting video! I’m trying to look at this “influencia” world from a distance, so your mature, balanced takes really help me understand how the current online sphere works. I never heard of this person before and never related to this kind of self-absorbed, shock-for-shock-sake content, but your last comment in the video is spot on - even if I DID knew of them, I would’ve never known who they really are just from seeing they’re TikTok/KZitem/whatever. I think sometimes the people’s need for attention, and the public need for spectacle (or “clown-shows”), can make people assume what this see in the internet is the truth and whole truth. Wrong. Maybe to biggest “wrong” of our times… I do hope more people will see that internet culture can be as deceptive and harmful as any other media, if not more, and it’s important to approach it with a critical and moderate eye, just like Kayla does (:
@estebanbucaro5637
2 ай бұрын
I don't care if I use my phone data to watch this at the gym, I'm watching this.
@GloriousBirds
2 ай бұрын
I’ve never truly watched Trisha because I’ve really only ever seen her in periphery like this where I’ve watched videos ABOUT her but she is a fascinating character. Is she showing her kids on camera? Because if so that’s definitely something I don’t agree with. Fully don’t think you should put images of your kids on the internet until they’re old enough to understand the decision of that. As a part of the queer community I do sorta forgive her foibles with that. Self discovery in gender is such a weird fraught journey. I can’t imagine having my life broadcasted while I was figuring my gender out. Hell I’m still figuring it out.
@ambarcastaneda4763
Ай бұрын
You worded so many of my thoughts
@Valentineatelier
Ай бұрын
These comments resolved my worries because I felt like pretty much everyone convieniently forgot every bad thing she’s ever done just because she settled down with her family and has been seemingly staying out of drama. It’s fair to say she has matured some but that doesn’t at all absolve her of every cruel and hurtful thing she’s done to other people as recent as like 2021-ish. I feel like everyone just makes excuses for her and she’s kind of like this mythic bitch on the internet it doesn’t matter if you love her or hate her she’s not going anywhere 😭
@jaimereynolds258
Ай бұрын
She is a disgusting person.
@workinprogress3329
2 ай бұрын
I just can’t stand behind someone that flip flop every other Sunday as she does when she gets backlash. Trisha is a professional Troll and she won’t be anything else to me.
@bluntasiaalize1688
2 ай бұрын
I know people be coming for you in the comments sometimes but fr I just wanna say I always appreciate your nuanced takes. I always look forward to your videos bc you always look at both points and let your audience draw their conclusions.
@fippywip
Ай бұрын
"can we talk about how much shes grown as a person" and shes just pregnant lol
@shalalala4875
Ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, you’re right about the Colleen Ballinger thing. Once I heard about that, I went to see Trisha share about that and it felt genuine. I felt sympathetic for her and wished her the best, but I don’t watch her stuff anymore.
@gyarados6507
2 ай бұрын
i also think the gabbie hanna drama period was super chaotic as well and i was very invested lol
@dreams_uwu
2 ай бұрын
I just want to say that I’m super glad you got a Ground News sponsorship! I think it’s a super fitting partnership ❤
@CharlieMarlin
2 ай бұрын
The timing oh my god
@dolchii
2 ай бұрын
While people saw her as a problematic troll that again ruined a popular podcast, I saw her as a mentally unwell person spiraling. despite hate mob against her, she still worked. most people would quit. she still had viral moments, she still had content people liked to watch. i saw a person work on herself, got feedback and kept herself out of drama for years consistently. idk i acknowledge some people don't like her & she offended people, but i also acknowledge the work she placed on herself.
@gabriellaberman
2 ай бұрын
i’m jewish and hate a lot of the things she said in the past, but she seems to genuinely have turned a new leaf. i’m personally rooting for her
@BasedGuvNah
Ай бұрын
"bottles rolling down stairs" always creeps into my algo too lmao
@cattrickie
Ай бұрын
i've heard too many people talk about jewish people that way and it's so so so frustrating
@thevioletskull8158
2 ай бұрын
The show that has toxic stuff ended up badly,not surprised I'm glad that I never watched it
@MeganSin
2 ай бұрын
As a passive watcher of Trish for the last 5 yrs, I would say motherhood I think matured her for the better and I know she’s always wanted a family and while I find Moses to have his own sketchy background, I think he’s still a positive influence on her. And it helps that the vlog squad era of KZitem is finally done. She’s still a very troubled person and says some things in poor taste and ignorance, but I always say we’re never grown ups, we’re just always growing up. So hopefully in the future, she continues a positive path and growth in a healthy happy place. And finds good friends and company because she can be so naive and people take such advantage of that (Colleen, I’m looking at you and that ukulele)
@nicolem9665
2 ай бұрын
I remember the first time I saw Trish was on AGT when she was trying to sleep with Howard Stern. She totally fed off the shock from the audience. It's always been pretty clear to me that she loves to troll, I think she's just taken it wayyy too far on quite a few occasions. Yet, somwhow, I can't help but like her. She's so charismatic. blndsundoll4mj was my life.
@Phd366
2 ай бұрын
I’m in the same boat when it comes to her. The thing is, with Trisha, I don’t feel that underlying bad intentions like when I listen to HRH collection.
@rkenzie5235
2 ай бұрын
5:55 the pause……”that’s cause you’re fat” 😂☠️🥓
@SparklyPsychic
2 ай бұрын
You didn't mention how her podcast helped with her getting seen in a more positive light!
@lu-th2nq
2 ай бұрын
"I wonder if Selena Gomez named her brand 'Rare Beauty' because she has that rare disease" 😭💀
@kristiekane4963
2 ай бұрын
Her podcast is full of lies per usual and is PG13 drama where she plays dumb but is still doing the toxic bit with her little puppet Oscar there laughing obnoxiously. She literally admits to awful things but she just knows she can’t hit record button bc of the fear of CPS being called to take the kids away. That’s the only difference
@donjai9366
2 ай бұрын
I just saw this lady in Katy Perry's new music video
@amytobias4
2 ай бұрын
i just feel like, whether trolling or not, trisha has been made by the internet into the poster child of 'we care about mental health and neurodivergence! but not like that lol'
@izzyc127
2 ай бұрын
Hi Kayla, I am just a casual viewer of your channel and I want to give my own thoughts on it and that is as someone who is a minority, I personally don’t like Trisha because after what happened in Uvalde in 2022 due to her tone deaf take on it and she said a lot of horrible comments about Mexicans yet calls herself a fan of Selena Quintanilla and Latin pop music and if people want to support Trisha then they can go ahead but I personally just can’t.
@nomanejane5766
Ай бұрын
3:51 the ganguro look is something a fashion popular in japan, it has nothing to do with black people.. Not sure why u picked that picture to represent the accusations of her perpetuating negative stereotypes abt minorities
@kimbapit
Ай бұрын
It's hard to know what the general consensus of the affected groups even is because there are SO MANY. I genuinely can't get a feel on what people are thinking.
@deathismyown
Ай бұрын
I remain baffled why she ever became relevant. No hate, no love.
@williamehlers5158
2 ай бұрын
Trisha has been offensive to pretty much every minority there is. It’s pretty well documented how mentally unwell she was for many years. With that said, she has clearly grown a lot and has at least tried to right her wrongs. I know people get mad anytime you give someone grace and say someone has grown. But I don’t care. It’s obvious that she has. She goes out of her way to try to not offend people now. She does it to the point where she just pretends to not know about certain things in order to not involve herself. She’s honestly done a 180.
@tmamone83
2 ай бұрын
From what I remember, when Colleen Ballinger debacle happened, Trisha Paytas actually came out as the good guy!
@carrot7911
2 ай бұрын
I think she's one of those people who is clearly very hurt and traumatized, but doesn't know how to communicate and turned to social media. When people are mentally ill that's probably the worst thing to turn to. That does not right the wrongs of any of the bad things she has done, and that should be made clear. I think this is a case of factor vs excuse. It's important to look at her actions and what made her do them, even if that doesn't excuse anything, but also look at any damage she's cause. It isn't black and white. It's nuanced. I admit I've always kind of liked her, and I probably shouldn't support her both because I think the support is damaging to her and gives her a platform to say more harmful things. I don't think she's a bad person though. I think she's just a very sad person who unfortunately turned to the internet and that led her down a path of controversies for which I assume was for attention. I assume as a mom she will have to tune that down and will probably become more self aware. I think my point is that we shouldn't villainize her but we also shouldn't put her on a pedestal or forget her wrongs. We should also push her to address what she's done and become a better overall person
@carterjones4709
Ай бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention is her history of drug use. Not using this as an excuse for her but she attributes a lot of her erratic behavior to times when she was ab*$ing hard dr*gs. Becoming a mother and finding a happy, and stable relationship became a wake up call to her to clean up her act. I think we really do know Trisha, her entire channel wasn’t her just trolling the whole time. She’s shown us parts of herself throughout the years. I’m honestly proud of her and the progress she’s made.
@v-vic09
Ай бұрын
I used to love her sm until she made that one video saying she supported Trump. No idea if she still does or if she evert truly did but she really lost me since then and no matter how likeable she seems now I just can't go back 🤷🏼♂ glad she's doing okay tho i guess
@alexandra28m
2 ай бұрын
Never had such a love, hate “ relationship “ with a famous person before
@petrius5630
2 ай бұрын
Since I wasn't chronically online until 2020, and I'm also not from US, I just knew Trisha from the Eminem MV and thought she was just one of those random late 00s subcelebs that turn out to be a terrible person. That was until I saw, in real time, the whole faking DID thing and I think it was very mean spirited of her, specially being around the time that Anthony Padilla did the DID video and then people at the time just seemed to have "discovered" Tourettes and DID all of the sudden on twitter and there was a LOT of people being ignorant towards those conditions, and Trisha just seemed to try on riding the wave of those big topics, but it came off as extremely disrespectful imho. I don't know if any of the 30.0000 different groups she harmed will forgive her, but I'm glad she cooled down from the whole drama thing.
@lucypreece7581
Ай бұрын
One thing I literally just found out is she may have been witness to or part of a smaller minor drama that happened. Okay so if you are not familiar with Pentatonix they are an acapella group that rose to fame on KZitem after winning the sing off and have gone multi platinum and won 3 Grammy's over the years and gotten to a good place of success. Made up of 5 members. the current roster is Scott Hoying, Mitch Grassi, Kirstin Maldonado, Kevin Olusola and Matt Sallee. Matt joined in in 2017 as a replacement for the original bass singer Avi Kaplan. it was believed that Avi left for family and mental health reasons but in recent times its come to light that it was actually a lot of falling out with other members of the group that made him leave and then he also got shady and blocked and album and stopped the group from publicly saying his name. It's a whole thing. Basically he's not as nice of a guy as we were made to believe. Well I only just found out that in 2017 the year Avi left, Trisha and Avi dated for a spell. She talked about it on her podcast or something. And it seems from she she said that he ghosted her. They matched on Tinder, dated for a spell then he left the group and left her and like went off the radar and disappeared for ages and essentially ghosted Trisha. I dunno if him dating her was one of the reasons for the falling out he had with the other group members in a Yoko Ono kind of scenario but like she was there when that was happening so she knows stuff about what was happening at that time maybe.
@salazar556
2 ай бұрын
I am glad that Trisha is showing improvement, but I'm very hesitant to fully trust that she has changed, especially after Frenemies.
@austensg9596
2 ай бұрын
I’m not about to throw my gorgeous home grown cherry tomatoes at you. They are delicious, I’m not wasting them.
@Octobris
2 ай бұрын
What even is this comment.
@hollyjo2188
2 ай бұрын
I feel like another big turning point for her has been her ASMR channel! She puts so much effort into that channel and always comes across incredibly genuine and serious about the ‘craft’
@sarahnaithammou
2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Happy you brought this up. I had stopped watching her main channel until she started doing ASMR, and I was legitimately impressed by what seems to be a genuine effort and lack of trolling
@queenc2144
Ай бұрын
She admitted to hitting Moses. She also admitted to abusing Jason and Sean. Those are the things she’s actually admitted . The rest she makes excuses and lies to this day. It’s not that she said she was SAd and there was no arrest record . It’s that she announced to the Internet that a certain teacher SAd her and linked it to an obituary and article about a teacher. It turned out that the article wasn’t about that teacher. Was she hoping that no one would notice or did she make a mistake? Idk but she sent an internet mob after a recently deceased man’s family. When you lie about details surrounding SA, people are less likely to believe other survivors. She’s never addressed that even though Dr Drew tried to get her to name specific things and address them. But all we’ve gotten was “I’ve changed and I’ve apologized “ The worst thing is that she has videos of her with underage people just like Colleen (Trevi Martin for one) and she watched OF with Parez Hilton while they made fun of the people. That is maybe the most hypocritical thing I’ve ever seen.
@mason311
2 ай бұрын
Her ASMR channel is also incredible
@cdlelondon
Ай бұрын
I've watched a few videos from this channel over the last few days and they are so well made and it's refreshing to see well researched content like this 👌 *subscribes
@linhquach4768
2 ай бұрын
i just saw ted nivison on trisha’s podcast good to see some explanation
@Kermitt_thee_frog23
2 ай бұрын
To me, Trisha has a bit of a "anti hero" reputation on the internet. She has has said/done some very messed up stuff in the past & it can be difficult to tell whether or not she's trolling. However, she doesn't really try to downplay or act "superior" like other influencers or celebrities (I wouldn't say she embraces her past but she kinda accepts it as part of her origin story/reputation). I think one of the major turning points in her reputation though was her involvement in exposing the true colours of her peers/influencers, many of whom I'd argue were upheld as "good" & more "respectable" than Trisha. Many of these people would often make Trisha the butt of the joke in their content as a way to prop themselves as "better" (imo I think part of it also has to do with the "anti-bimbo" rhetoric that was prevalent back then but that's a convo for another time). But when it came to "exposing" these people, she doesn't really try to frame herself as being "above them" either because she knows she has a bad reputation (its kinda a "if I go down you go down with me" scenario). Because of that, I think the internet ended up swinging in her favour. I'd also say that the internet has also learned to recognized people who need help & realized that Trisha is/was a troubled person. While people do still make fun of her, I'd say that we've become a bit more sympathetic & learned to recognize symptoms of a mental breakdown. Trisha has been on the internet for a long time & we've seen her evolve. She might not be a good influence but at least she's not try to convince us that she is. In an odd way, she's kinda authentic.
@MorningStarScorpio
2 ай бұрын
I hope Trisha has a wonderful happy life with her family, but I’m honestly so over her.
@hidansektas
2 ай бұрын
i still dont like her. i wont forget what she did to dissocialDID. thst shit wasnt cute or funny
@lordfreerealestate8302
2 ай бұрын
She defended Moses against his SA accusers, almost cause Hila Klein to have a miscarriage, and was accused of abusing multiple former partners. When will people learn SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE FORGIVEN? No one else would get a free pass to do this sh*t.
@theonlybingledingle
Ай бұрын
B-But she’s funny white girl!
@em.lane.p
2 ай бұрын
This was articulated very well. Very concise but you still hit all the important sentiments about Trisha’s arc.
@castawaykali
2 ай бұрын
I found out about the podcast WAYYY later - 2023 and even then I still liked her. She admits that all of her antics were just that - antics. I just saw a girl that was not guided properly, that was led to develop an intense personality disorder that is always diagnosed too late (BPD, I’m also diagnosed). I’m not making excuses, but I feel like every time she learns why something’s wrong, she stops. That doesn’t seem malicious to me. I literally teared up when I saw her with the positive pregnancy test. I just saw a girl who never thought she would get the life she wanted…but she did.
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