Brett's secret to aging backwards is sticking his head in lights
@f.a.l.-failatlyfe6237
4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@jennyli263
4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna order one
@ilymeow
4 жыл бұрын
that's probably why he's so bright
@natewilson111
4 жыл бұрын
(...and being Asian)
@poigikibobo
4 жыл бұрын
@@ilymeow yes he smart boi
@anamikabhushan8057
4 жыл бұрын
I see they are getting more educational and I'm diggin' it
@phy2sp33
4 жыл бұрын
I read this as he was putting his face in the light...lol
@hom2fu
4 жыл бұрын
two violin nerds making fun of people, but this video is very instructional
@mfalc90
4 жыл бұрын
Yessss!
@skhoosy
4 жыл бұрын
sameee
@greatwhitenorthlife2327
4 жыл бұрын
And I like that this is liked lol! Hopefully Brett and Eddy listen to their audience! I love the light and funny stuff, but these informative and still comedic videos have real potential to reach audience with education.
@mozartjpn137
4 жыл бұрын
My interpretation is so unique no one hardly recognizes that I play Bach.
@MiaMizuno
4 жыл бұрын
can relate!
@abdlhmdx
4 жыл бұрын
When I play “moonlight sonata” people keep calling it “strangling a cat”
@littleloner1159
4 жыл бұрын
@@abdlhmdx my cat sounds better than me
@jessicachen9332
4 жыл бұрын
Same same
@Poreckylife
4 жыл бұрын
😄😄😄😄
@charcharluvsu
4 жыл бұрын
My dad: You watch way too much KZitem. Me, watching TwoSet Violin: it’s _educational_
@roisin.b
4 жыл бұрын
Omg story of my life 🤣
@vikpdp883
4 жыл бұрын
yessir (or ma'am, no assuming genders)
@lalalablackjackies5156
4 жыл бұрын
Except I don't even play violin or have a violin at home
@imhoneygreentea4782
4 жыл бұрын
That's my excuse too , but they actually do teach me things
@laarnierosepayumo567
4 жыл бұрын
@@imhoneygreentea4782 true
@angweishuang
4 жыл бұрын
Vibrato hides the lack of technique Me, a pianist: *smirks in pedal*
@diana_cantabile
4 жыл бұрын
Me, also a pianist: raises both hands and right foot in agreement
@shoshanawolfe7107
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂👌
@YouTubeChannel-nf2nw
4 жыл бұрын
@@diana_cantabile what? I use me left foot for pedaling...
@imender9219
4 жыл бұрын
R E V E R B
@christianhemingway2807
4 жыл бұрын
I just wiggle my finger on the key idk it feels right
@zebanon5
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to note that improvements in recording technology might also be driving some of these stylistic changes. Before microphone improvements allowed the subtitles of "crooning" to be recorded with any fidelity, that style of vocals wasn't viable commercially. You get really, really close to this when you mention Elman's performance being "so matter of fact." It was likely performed that way so it could be clear and understandable through old microphones and old radios. Many of the the radios playing that song while it was being broadcast were likely made in the 40s and 50s.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
Жыл бұрын
Really good point! 😮 I'd love to see a music-focused KZitemr go into detail on that, across different musical styles?
@hetedeleambacht6608
Жыл бұрын
that would explain the abrupt attacks on every note so public could clearly hear each seperate note.... i guess with the audio system then as i hear them indeed it would ve sound like an unclear blur.....what would make you think they would play quite differently live?
@robertgreene2684
Жыл бұрын
There is some point here but it is a mistake to think that the old guys were playing to compensate for anything about recording technology. They were just playing the way they played in the hall. Moreover, the microphones of the early high fidelity era(1950 and 1960) were not in fact at all accurate-- they had nasty higher frequency resonances. I heard these "old guys: live (Grumiaux and Heifetz and Szeryng-- I missed Elman) The recordings are not representative of what was really heard when one heard them live. Actually even today very few recordings really sound like live violin sound. Audio people live in a dream world where they are recording real sound. Fat chance. The microphones are way too close for a start. (We won;t even go into the fact that speakers vary all over the map)
@bzbzob
Жыл бұрын
@@robertgreene2684 Just curious then, after all you said, how was it hearing the old guys live compared to what you hear today?
@mahboombox7860
4 жыл бұрын
“Rachel Podger is one of the more well-kown baroque violinists.” Ray Chen: *Who’s Rachel Podger?*
@84rinne_moo
4 жыл бұрын
Bahaha deserves more likes than this 😂
@carluy7351
4 жыл бұрын
haha exactly my thought process as well. Ray dug a 6-feet grave that day
@violintegral
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Shunsuke Sato, he has amazing Bach and Vivaldi recordings on KZitem. And he won the International Bach Competition as an added bonus. So did Rachel Barton Pine, her Bach is also great.
@MagnificentBaroque
4 жыл бұрын
Harrison Loeffler Sato’s recordings are amazing! The best I’ve ever listened to IMHO
@pippaschroeder9660
4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought of, I half expected them to play that clip 😅
@xuanthanh7441
4 жыл бұрын
" Rachel Podger - famous Baroque specialist " *flashback to Ray Chen asking who was Rachel Podger*
I have heard them both in concert, Milstein and Grumiaux. Grumiaux sounded like I had never heard anybody before and never again after. He has left deep traces in my memory. Although it is half a century ago I´ll never forget that sound like a huge soft cloud floating at me. Milstein was very impressing too with his sound as well with his Bach. I don´t believe in the idea of "right" or "wrong" interpretations, nor that a "historic" interpretation would be the only legitimate one. We play modern instruments (even a Stradivari with a longer neck, steel strings, modern Bow, higher bridge...) which require that we play differently from, say, the 18th century. There is a relatively wide corridor of possible interpretation and in the end it is one´s taste and liking as long as it is coherent and convincing. I still like Milstein best.
@jbc1951
2 жыл бұрын
Grumiaux Sonatas and Partitas are still my Go To performances. The Josef Szigeti performances of the Bach are also something special. He fills a tiny volume of space with the music. It's like watching a candle flame. Very melancholy in a charming way.
@remember9097
2 жыл бұрын
so many languages, and you speak with the true
@kimberlynakano
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie & Brett: I'm in the ((1))%!!! Born in 1957 and tell all my family and friends to watch you guys. Love your content, always fresh and fun.
@PikkuNoita
4 жыл бұрын
🖤🖤🖤
@richardigp
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kimberly. I'm your older brother and partner in the 1%. Born in 1951. Grew up listening to a Readers Digest Classical music collection. Played the 12 LPs non-stop (better than doing homework!) TwoSet takes me back to the 60s (not sure they would like to hear that given the subject of this vid!). I am the only person I know who walks around humming Danse Macabre!
@sorayaimperial
4 жыл бұрын
@@richardigp Wow, I'm a new timer (born in 1992), also grew up listening to Reader's Digest classical music collection! Both my father and grandmother had them. My grandma taught me all the composers, I could identify about 50 famous pieces and their composers when I was five :)
@57mamabear
4 жыл бұрын
Another 1957 here. Also loved the readers digest collection 😃. These lads have reawakened my interest in classical music.
@wakajumba
4 жыл бұрын
and I thought I was the only boomer who watched.
@GregoryRobertsLx
4 жыл бұрын
I am not a musician, nor do I know much of anything about Classical music. Your video just popped up in my Suggested Feed. With that being said, your enthusiasm for differences, what at first listen for me, would have sounded more or less the same, was infectious. It was a joy to see you both have dumbfounded awe at the same spots on something I have zero idea about. Thanks for the smile.
@feralbluee
2 жыл бұрын
good for you for being so astute! enjoy. :) 🎼🌼
@jpjay1584
2 жыл бұрын
same here. I laughed my a** off. just by seeing their reactions and immediately understanding the point. well done!!
@elainewu4955
4 жыл бұрын
The curious case of Brett Yang. Aging backwards video by video. I’m guessing by the 3mil drop Eddy will be playing Sibelius with a toddler Brett.
@boardgamefangirl
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@KailieCromwell
4 жыл бұрын
It's the Asian genes lol. That, and maybe because he stuck his head in the light. With a LIGHTER mood and a BRIGHT smile, one can seem a lot younger!
@adaliaalvarez7269
4 жыл бұрын
So, does that mean that Brett will TURN INTO a prodigy??
@elainewu4955
4 жыл бұрын
Adalia Alvarez yes he’ll become the fetus that can play Pag 24
@euyaakim0313
4 жыл бұрын
@@elainewu4955 😂
@Violamanben
4 жыл бұрын
Rachel Podger is my hero. I’ve had the opportunity to meet her several times, and I was sure to ask about her string set. She uses a Toro E, Gamut A, D, and Pirastro olive G.
@agogobell28
3 жыл бұрын
I love her Bach Double recording; I listen to it so often.
@blixten2928
3 жыл бұрын
What in the name of all that's holy are THOSE?
@Violamanben
3 жыл бұрын
@@blixten2928 Good question. Toro is an Italian company that makes gut strings by hand. You wouldn’t have heard of them unless you use gut strings. Gamut is very similar, but they’re located in the U.S. I’ve spoken with Mr. Gamut before, and he’s a very nice gentleman that takes pride in his work. Pirastro is a German company that makes both synthetic and gut strings. Their most popular string is Evah Pirazzi. I hope that helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions, I manage a small violin shop in Northern California.
@blixten2928
3 жыл бұрын
@@Violamanben Thank you so very much! Wonderful that you manage a violin shop, perhaps something (remotely) good about the pandemic is that people can turn back to their instruments (and practice)! And I hope videos such as Twosets really spread knowledge and appreciation of the instrument. It's one of the great achievements of human civilisation.
@tonybarron282
3 жыл бұрын
All those years playing "early"stuff probably means that Rachel's interpretation of bach is grounded in performance similar to that that of musicians contemporary with him (Ithink of it like a spoken accent) and her beautiful intonation is probably due to natural ability and not having to match discordant equal temperament
@Lullavi_
4 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to believe that Brett gets a crush on any woman who plays the violin well
@nellapenelope3240
4 жыл бұрын
XD yes!! We have found the romantic strain in Brett at last!!
@paulpedersen1329
4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't?
@nellapenelope3240
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulpedersen1329 other women lol! XD. But it really is just turned around for us.
@PurpleFringe
4 жыл бұрын
Both Brett and Eddy clearly (and justifiably) have a huge crush on Hilary.
@paulpedersen1329
4 жыл бұрын
@@nellapenelope3240 Some would. 😉
@averyesmith
4 жыл бұрын
“Music brings people together” -Eddy, right before he roasts other musicians.
@kenny-ek9ns
4 жыл бұрын
the idea is to laugh at everyone and hate the child prodigies. thats what they mean by music brings people together
@averyesmith
4 жыл бұрын
uniting people against child prodigies and violists.
@97ohmygod
4 жыл бұрын
*after
@susanbryant6516
4 жыл бұрын
They have never hated on child prodigies. Only despaired at their own fate.
@Ali_Shafai
3 жыл бұрын
As a listener, though Milstein’s interpretation may be not acceptable in the modern era, but I love the large soundstage and the rich tone that he produces. It almost sounds like 2 people playing. 😃
@MrP_Piano
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer Milstein. I don’t understand how conservatoires are able to dictate how to be creative 🙄 Historically informed performances seem somewhat sterile and pretentious.
@thomaslovse
Жыл бұрын
I will always rather listen to older recordings (1960’s-1980’s) over today’s recordings. The older ones are much better!!
@maybellelee6315
4 жыл бұрын
Eddy: there goes your music degree Brett: *whole life as a student in music university flashes in his eyes*
@libbyrodriguez
4 жыл бұрын
Maybelle Lee He looked just like the surprised Pikachu face!!
@xuexueyanyan
4 жыл бұрын
that moment when reality sets in 😂
@egrseattle463
4 жыл бұрын
Maxim Vengerov's interpretation of Sibelius Violin Concerto is the best alive to this day. Also thats your 3M drop 2Set.
@amai_316
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Augustin Hadelich or emmanuel tjeknavoroan tbh
@physicsjeff
4 жыл бұрын
If I may add, his Variations on an original theme (Wieniawski) is sublime! The opening bars give me chills every time.
@santiagoporcino4229
4 жыл бұрын
Christian Ferras? Heifetz? J. Bell? Perlman?
@fitzdarragh
4 жыл бұрын
Nah Ray Chen's performance with the Gothenburg Symphony is equal to Vengerov's
@NoferTadros
4 жыл бұрын
Vengerov truly is the best
@havocsheart
4 жыл бұрын
I admit to really liking the old-school approach to the Bach piece. I like the impact and the weight it has.
@thatsingingsoul8486
4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the memes of Brett's realisation face. 😂😂😂
@oliviapereira364
4 жыл бұрын
Can´t wait to see the recorder players counterattack
@icebearisicebear
4 жыл бұрын
Prediction: bretts lofi song will change the whole industry once again.
@user-bp9zj9xs2y
4 жыл бұрын
He created a new genre
@abhijitsone6152
4 жыл бұрын
Totally ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ
@jacksbee8809
4 жыл бұрын
Demonic anxiety music
@mochienn
4 жыл бұрын
elpotatochip relaxing study music*
@JiwonAstrid
4 жыл бұрын
in 2120 people will be reviewing Brett's lofi
@connerh492
4 жыл бұрын
"Liszt popularized playing from memory" Paganini: cries
@jeburr24
3 жыл бұрын
Clara Schumann: Rolls eyes in woman
@maybellelee6315
4 жыл бұрын
Brett: *kisses the light* Me: Brett .... no
@etc4725
4 жыл бұрын
Janine playing at the frog still sounds better than me playing in the middle of the bow
@bryanlin8333
4 жыл бұрын
She will sound better than most of us even if she's playing while upside down, hold the bow at the tip instead of at the frog
@GoddamnAxl
4 жыл бұрын
We need more of this kind of content! You guys taught me how classical music is meant to be appreciated. You guys pointed out all the subtleties I wouldn’t otherwise notice.
@ErikCPianoman
4 жыл бұрын
5:54 dang calm down. My woodwind friends felt that in their reeds.
@azalea9
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ahnrho
4 жыл бұрын
Third degree burns. Super effective on woodwinds.
@whalien_translations
4 жыл бұрын
my reeds burned into pieces
@Chloe-ze4yy
3 жыл бұрын
Reeding this was so kranji
@GabrielRGomes
3 жыл бұрын
every time we're running out of air , our mind goes blank hahahahah
@KatrinkaH86
4 жыл бұрын
Brett looks younger in recent videos. I'm not saying he looked old but now he looks like 18-20. Did he find some potion of the eternal youth?
@katharineshade9550
4 жыл бұрын
The lack of regular haircuts at the moment?
@auriefei7399
4 жыл бұрын
he looks cute with his haircuts tho ;-;
@Tubluer
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing what catching up on your sleep can do for you.
@sight3435
4 жыл бұрын
KatrinkaH86 Maybe cuz of his pop song! Lol 😅😇
@argo12
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tubluer No kidding! I've been off work for 10 weeks now. I've been getting lots of sleep and to me I look 20 years younger.
@doroteyakristeva8082
4 жыл бұрын
Omg! This recording with Vengerov was made in my country! I was at that concert in Sofia, a little girl about 8-9 years old. It was such a wonderful concert!! 💜
@jaromnascimento8763
4 жыл бұрын
No one: Old school interpretation: *Play it thicker as possible.*
@reaganb6013
4 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with anything but I'm not wearing my glasses and for a split second I thought ur pfp was Obama. I think I'm blinder than I thought 😂
@jojogarcia8766
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he play THICC!!!
@bread3710
4 жыл бұрын
old school violinists: hm. i will fight for originality and distinction in a time where recordings are limited and everyone must make a name for themselves modern violinists: I AM FOUR PARALLEL UNIVERSES AHEAD OF YOU
@Adoublelan13
3 жыл бұрын
I love how each musician has their own interpretation. My biggest wish is that musicians don't get penalized or looked down upon as often as the do if they decided to play in older styles or different interpretations than is considered "right" or "mainstream" these days. Too often I have experienced berating of musicians because they didn't play it exactly as a teacher or instructor or peers wanted or believed it should be played. It feels in modern days people are trying to make too many musicians into robots to play a piece the same way no matter what. At least that is how I felt in University. I felt a lot of my creativity was being challenged too much because it didn't fit someone's expectations.
@cow_furby
4 жыл бұрын
As a jazz musician I like the "old school" version of Bach, I just dig the emotions and heavy/thickness of it
@Khayyam-vg9fw
4 жыл бұрын
It was better than the other two. It had more guts.
@Kimoto504
4 жыл бұрын
Did have more "soul", honesty, spontaneity.
@ishitamathur1614
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Khayyam-vg9fw
4 жыл бұрын
@tubenshaft Why are you interrogating me? Yes, I meant what I wrote. Why on earth would you think that I didn't? I have no idea what you mean by an "Inside joke only students of Classical Music will get" (nor why you had to render most of the clause in italics). I intended no joke and I can see none (except a quite accidental quibble on catgut, perhaps, which is hardly side-splitting stuff).
@Khayyam-vg9fw
4 жыл бұрын
@@francoisdelarochefoucauld7298 OK. I was a bit too quick to condemn.
@yeaolon
4 жыл бұрын
Interpretation is when a musician *interprets.* Cool, didn’t know that.
@a.hollins8691
4 жыл бұрын
Gut strings are made out of gut.
@arieltabbach4946
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hollins the floor is made out of floor
@debbiemail1
4 жыл бұрын
Being a Baby Boomer (yes, some of your viewers were born between 1946 -1964) I've listened to those big changes in interpretation over my lifetime. You guys entertainingly pointed out so many specific details to highlight the passage of time. I hope violin teachers are getting their students to subscribe to your offerings.
@elainethemusician3310
3 жыл бұрын
I am of the same generation (born mid sixties) and, like you, have lived through the changes. Maxim Vengerov (new school) is one of my favourite violinists but l still love the old school performances of Yehudi Menuhin and David Oistrakh.
@fluffyunicorn57
2 жыл бұрын
@@elainethemusician3310 Mid sixties is not the same generation.
@FhornPatrick
4 жыл бұрын
I love how music progresses. Being able to pinpoint a time in history and show the differences in how we express music is a wild concept and I'm happy that you two are having so much fun teaching the world about this. Have a great day!
@natejaffa9083
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sufsanin1917
4 жыл бұрын
Twosetviolin: Recording was not invented before 1960. Arturo Toscanini died in 1957. Frank Sinatra: *I guess I don't exist* Also don't forget "Wizard of Oz"
@witsukyai1685
3 жыл бұрын
Then why is there a recording of Saint Seans and Brahms.
@sufsanin1917
3 жыл бұрын
@@witsukyai1685 Yes
@kpNov23
3 жыл бұрын
@@witsukyai1685 or Heifetz and Kreisker
@DonaldSosinJoannaSeaton
3 жыл бұрын
And Thibaud and Casals and Rachmaninoff and on and on
@deadmanswife3625
3 жыл бұрын
@@DonaldSosinJoannaSeaton you know they be acting authoritative but it don't slide with many of us
@shespeakslatin
4 жыл бұрын
This was so good to watch. As a non musician, to watch and hear as you guys enjoy the music and explain *why* one part hits different and *how* they achieve it was fascinating!! Please expand this series, do it with people who are experts at different instruments, because it's so FUN! Thanks for sharing your talents
@magowitberb6957
4 жыл бұрын
TwoSet: WiNds caN’T meMoRiZe Me: Laughs in Marching Band
@lydiaelizabethgarrido2191
4 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for a comment like this. Thank you!! ❤😅 #saxgang #windinstrumentslivesmatter
@highwolf_x
4 жыл бұрын
Solo recitals are usually memorized too. I did my competitions from memory.
@hayleywyatt1852
4 жыл бұрын
yeppp
@Emily5-p3j
4 жыл бұрын
*silence* yeah I can't memorize shit
@Kaldurahm1
4 жыл бұрын
Double memorize. I remember getting yelled at about how many steps were in each measure from 60-72! "Well then, what measure is the time signature change in?!" "Where do you need to be by the and of 3 on measure 67?!" "Get there!" "Project! I need to hear you from the box!" "Alright! Full tempo! 180!" And the pushups. So many pushups.
@friedec3622
2 жыл бұрын
Past: the tip of the bow Current: the frog of the bow Future: the back of the bow
@pmichael73
4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating for one who started the violin in the mid-1950 and heard Menuhin, Milstein, Oistrakh, Ricci, and a VERY young Perlman. Style was passed down through the teachers - starting with the great mid-19th century ones. Remember, there was a long period when Bach, Vivaldi, Handel and others were hardly played, so there was a break in the tradition.
@xandraxandra1437
4 жыл бұрын
pmichael73 I love that you stand up for your age. All fans aren’t 25 or younger. Twoset have an active and big fan base and it’s all of us together who make this community so great. Also, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@shespeakslatin
4 жыл бұрын
Wowww that's so cool. Did not know that. Why were those composers not in fashion? Man, gotta look up music history. Thanks for sharing your perspective
@fundorgon
4 жыл бұрын
@@xandraxandra1437 That's a wonderful comment. I hope you have a great day.
@CarolynOsborne
4 жыл бұрын
Ricci was the first concert violinist I got to see in concert!
@larrypholbrook
4 жыл бұрын
InTeReStInGlY they posted this on Bob Dylan's Birthday. "The Times They Are a Changing"
@leonajones4702
3 жыл бұрын
So true about the glissing. I was taught to use certain "schmaltzy" pitch changes back in the 60's and 70's. I personally prefer the cleaned up versions. On the Bach, I learned to play the first chord like Milstein's example (actually saw him porform in Chicago years ago) -- broken in half. Later, a more modern teacher preferred a harp-like rendition. I love that music has so many interpretations! We get quite a variety of input if we study with different people.
@mackenziehutcheson7828
4 жыл бұрын
"Woodwinds just can't memorize." Me, a saxophone player, about to argue, but then realizing that I haven't been able to memorize the music for my field show for the past 3 years: "Yeah, you right."
@JoshTurnerGuitar
4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting guys. Great video. I've encountered the same thing listening to 1970's recordings of early vocal music - imagine Palestrina with every singer doing a different vibrato...
@eliastsoukatos2
4 жыл бұрын
dude, you are the best guitarist in the world for me
@00iamcrazy
4 жыл бұрын
Omg, hi Josh. I love your work so much.
@koshersalaami
4 жыл бұрын
The seventies is when they really started to figure this out.
@georgenorris2657
2 жыл бұрын
Oh I have heard it: the BBC singers.
@watermelone_man
2 жыл бұрын
11:20 Mozart? 😂
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
4 жыл бұрын
"1962! None of you were born- Ok some of you guys are" Damn, I feel called out now
@xandraxandra1437
4 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy without a Mustache Although most of their fans are under 25 they shouldn’t forget us. We have the money to buy their apparel. :)
@RaeRagusa
4 жыл бұрын
My mom wasn’t even born in 1962 😂😂
@susanblonsky6697
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Twoset! I was born in 1948. My granddaughter got me into watching you. Now I'm a subscriber and subsidize her apparel purchases. Just sayin'.
@RaeRagusa
4 жыл бұрын
Susan Blonsky Omg, this is so wholesome ❤️❤️❤️ YESS.
@argo12
4 жыл бұрын
@@xandraxandra1437 LOL! True!
@JoshuaLo2732
4 жыл бұрын
Next: How twoset videos have COMPLETELY CHANGED in the last 6 years.
@rizzie_chan
4 жыл бұрын
They should react to their old reacts lol
@HKLydia
4 жыл бұрын
More buzzwords, for example 😂
@vartago
4 жыл бұрын
They suck
@anticloxkwised
4 жыл бұрын
@@vartago no
@teefthief
4 жыл бұрын
@@vartago huh??
@reaganb6013
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how confused someone new to their channel would be by the first minute of this video 😂
@kiramotrodante483
4 жыл бұрын
I'm late but the whole "wind players can't memorize music" *side eyes marching bands who memorize music, sets they have to move to, and dances to do whilst playing the music* Lolol
@empresspip
4 жыл бұрын
Remember though, early recording was done through a giant metal trumpet thing, and it couldn't pick up the nuance in sounds. That could be one reason why that dude was pumping out the Meditation. If he played gently, the notes would probably disappear completely!
@maurmi
4 жыл бұрын
That's true
@fitzdarragh
4 жыл бұрын
By the 1960s the old wax cylinders were no longer used. Listen to a recording of Joachim or Ysaye, who actually did have to play inside a horn. The recording quality was infinitely worse than what Elman would have faced.
@stevesutcliffe3490
4 жыл бұрын
Errr, not in the 50s or 60s they didn't. You must be a youngster LOL.
@uselessDM
4 жыл бұрын
Microphones were used starting in the early 1930s or even late 20s, so with a recording from the 50s this definitely isn't an issue.
@FlameRedCat
4 жыл бұрын
That old piece of film looked & sounded like it hadn’t been stored properly & had experienced signal degradation as a result. I’ve seen/heard colour film from the 1930s that was in better condition than that. 🎞
@techn9cian09
4 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about classical music, you can listen to the same piece played by different musicians and still get an entirely different song.
@xandraxandra1437
4 жыл бұрын
techn9cian09 *piece ;)
@Nadia1989
4 жыл бұрын
Even with the same musician two performances are not the same
@techn9cian09
4 жыл бұрын
xandra xandra yeah you right😂 but saying piece twice felt a bit inordinate. 🤷♂️
@Un1234l
4 жыл бұрын
That happens with all music sorry to burst your bubble. Covers exist. A recent favourite of mine is listening to the original Can't Take My Eyez Off You vs Joseph Vincent's.
@Missingo32
4 жыл бұрын
To be perfectly fair to some of the older masters of the recording era... One rather prominent school of violin playing was heavily influenced by the limitations of recording technology, itself. Any nuance or dynamics would be minimized, if not lost entirely, from microphones and tapes of the era; and so, to compensate, players would incorporate thicker, more excessive vibrato, and brighter, more aggressive and "projective" playing. It's less due to a lack of skill, or even a lack of nuance on the player's part, but more due to the remnants of an older and very valid train of thought; one which remained very valid well into the 60s, particularly as far as live recordings are concerned. No disrespect to the old masters; but as much as I respect the likes of Elman or even Heifetz, neither of them are among my favorite violinists. However, their styles, albeit arguably excessive, make more sense in the context of the era they performed in.
@noahburns3609
4 жыл бұрын
I find it really odd that classical music, a genre that depends for its popularity and survival almost entirely on works written by people born before the 20th century is also full of people who think very little of classical musicians from even just a few decades ago. The reason Elman's interpretation is so striking is that it is one.
@deepdark795
4 жыл бұрын
it's cuz most people are today are imbeciles who can't tell great playing from bad playing
@nidurnevets
3 жыл бұрын
They said that classical music recordings start around 1950. Entirely wrong There are recordings of Joachim from 1903. Heifetz recorded as far back as 1911 while a kid in Russia.
@TheToughBaby
3 жыл бұрын
@@nidurnevets That's true... but I don't think it's unfair to say that recording technology made a pretty significant leap in the 1950s. I listen to Szell-era Cleveland Orchestra stuff all the time and most of it sounds like it could have been recorded yesterday, but you go back even ten years and there's a dramatic difference. But still, right. There are Edison cylinders of classical music, obviously.
@nidurnevets
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheToughBaby I agree.
@rdt1104
3 жыл бұрын
@@nidurnevets There's even a video on KZitem of Debussy playing Debussy - completely different than modern interpretations
@kSmolarkowa
4 жыл бұрын
I study astronomy now, but as soon I as I get my master degree (and becoming financially independent) I swear I will start the violin lessons, wish me luck >.
@sakurahinata4984
4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@raypeanuts3185
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I said. I was 15 and had just seen Arthur Rubinstein on TV. I'm now 78 and in second year piano. Don't wait.
@mithinie
4 жыл бұрын
I think you should start as soon as you as you can afford it and have a bit of time. Because when you do you'll love it so much you'll wonder why you didn't learn it sooner. And we'll... life you know... Good luck anyway with your goals 😊
@sasukesarutobi3862
4 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you're going to start with Holst
@SubNorm4L
4 жыл бұрын
Start as soon as you can, even one hour of practice a day can do a lot
@mikecabral1579
2 жыл бұрын
I’m new to classical music. I watched a documentary on Janine Jansen a recording session of Beethoven op 61. I fell in love with the music and her. The first 15 + minutes watching her just listing to the Orchestra how moved she was just grabbed me. She just becomes part of the music before she even played a note. She is a very beautiful woman but so much more than that. She is very expressive while playing and seems so connected to the orchestra. Well that started me down a path of exploration I don’t regret. This music makes me feel it. I’m a happier person for having found it. I could never go to a live concert of op 61 I would drive people crazy I can’t be still listening to it. Especially 1st movement.
@JTC-bm1lz
4 жыл бұрын
10:00 He just had an eargasm
@SuebinPark
4 жыл бұрын
janine’s bow control makes me cry. her tone is all i’ve aspired to be since i really started playing violin
@jumpinjakeflash1
2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these two interact.
@artemtsarevskiy2785
4 жыл бұрын
*"she has those moments of release, and yet she still gives you those juicy dissonant chords"* fAMiLy FrIeNdLy
@benparsons4979
4 жыл бұрын
is this supposed to be a euphemism or something?
@arazaratsyan6478
4 жыл бұрын
Just so everyone knows, audio recordings were actually invented much earlier than video recordings (~1877 audio and ~1951 video), so you can even find music recordings from all the way back to the early 20th century or even late 19th century for further "old school" recordings. For example, here's the internationally renowned violin virtuoso and composer Fritz Kreisler playing Thaïs Meditation in 1910: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mX1osHqdhqF1bGU I actually think it's quite a beautiful interpretation, and you can even hear a lot of similarities with how people might play it today, although there also of course clear differences on style as well. One cool thing about these old recordings is that you can sometimes find composers playing their own pieces, which can be very interesting. I'd love if Brett and Eddy made some mention/consideration of these older recordings too, maybe in a future video, but I doubt they'll ever see this comment or hear about these earlier recordings any time soon if they don't already know about them.
@AriallaMacAllister
4 жыл бұрын
Oh good, someone already made this point. *Applauds in wax cylinder, since that was more durable than the original tin foil*
@damookster5919
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the old school players. Like they were saying it was non apologetic and you could feel what they were feeling when playing it because of that.
@asteok2740
4 жыл бұрын
Brett: **kisses light** *gets flashbacks on Brett's lofi music*
@mylesjordan9970
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the fact that the modern recital was invented by Franz Liszt, that Milstein, Szeryng, Heifetz, Grumiaux were still having to project into spaces that were several times bigger than Bach’s and that that necessitated major modifications to both the violin and bow and to how they were handled. You have to begin with the sort of acoustic that economically won’t allow the violinist to afford gas money. That having been said, many unnecessary anachronisms following Czerny, Joachim, etc., still infect Bach performance, mostly to do with phrasing. We still base a lot of it on a 19th-century concept of line, rather than an 18th-century approach to rhetoric-big mistake. There are lots of misunderstandings about national schools, too. The Italian Baroque, it’s very clear, used continuous vibrato, while Bach castigated his “nanny-goat bassoonist” for doing exactly the same thing in Germany. Why do so many Italian Baroque recordings use no vibrato? So, where exactly is appropriate to apply it in Bach? Is faithfulness to the letter of (which??) treatise more or less important than moving the listener?
@arisowizard7178
4 жыл бұрын
TwoSet: How Violin playing changed in the past 60 years Paganini: I LIVED MORE THAN 60 YEARS AGO
@craftdictionary250
4 жыл бұрын
No one: KZitem time change channel: clothes over the last 100 years Two set: violins changing over the last 60 years
@bgreer6584
6 ай бұрын
Fun watching B and E’s reaction to Vengerov. What exquisite playing!!
@beyzaozbek549
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, i listen to classical music you know. I love it. But old school is nothing like i've heard before, damn they are epic. Awesome man!
@capuchinosofia4771
4 жыл бұрын
Same man, I just love the strength, the epicness of it!
@jerlaus
4 жыл бұрын
jokes aside, i like this type of video where twoset educate us on classical music knowledge. ive loterally learnt more classical music here than in my past music education. thank you twoset :D
@Muha11B
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what they're talking about but it's so fascinating and I love how in depth they always go in their videos I can't stop watching!!!
@xuexueyanyan
4 жыл бұрын
“it’s because the woodwinds can’t memorize their music” professional woodwinds: *peace was never an option*
@Mrscwaboyd
2 жыл бұрын
What I’m learning is that there is a level of enjoying classical music that you can only experience if you are classically trained.
@RobFlaxMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Can I just say: watching you two fanboy over Janine Jansen's playing was so wholesome and heartwarming! Everybody loves a good roast, but it's so nice to hear you put somebody *up* rather than down.
@RhondaBranneky
4 жыл бұрын
I watched Janine grow up. She babysat my son!
@mrshumancar
4 жыл бұрын
Beauty standards in 50s: Hour Glass Shape. Violin Playing in 50s: THICC
@maurmi
4 жыл бұрын
Good one
@nappybunny8221
3 жыл бұрын
In regards to Ms. Podger not using vibrato, I remember reading in college that baroque violins were usually held about the actual deltoid, and not tucked between the chin and shoulder as they are now with modern instruments. Essentially, they physically couldn't use the vibrato technique. :/
@Bermeslivre
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Milstein's performance over the modern style. The same way I like Hahn's Erlkönig or any interpretation of Sibelius' Finlandia. It's fucking metal.
@wilh3lmmusic
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason I like Richter Appassionata
@theresahemminger1587
2 жыл бұрын
….and he, tragically, lost a finger on his left hand and could no longer play…
@sakuryanacc
4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the balance among your types of videos lately! This one geeking out very nicely, too 😍 learned a lot just by little snippets of each...um...era? Wouldn't even mind watching you two go into a more detailed explanations for longer vids!
@narapo1911
4 жыл бұрын
As a cellist this is an interesting subject. I find modern cello playing somewhat uninteresting most of the time, whereas the masters like Shafran, Rostropovich, du Pre, Tortellieri, Casals etc. have so distinctive and inspiring playing. Love also Mischa Maisky and Yo-Yo Ma. I don't know why exactly. When listening to more recent cellists, they have excellent technique and clarity, everything is fine, but somehow their performances do not leave an impression. Listening to them live is a completely another story, but in recordings it's just hard to stand out, I'm afraid. Also I may be very ignorant of many great talents in the field.
@angryjalapeno
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes people copy the interpretation of older players. Case in point is Bach's cello suites. Listen to Paulo Beschi's take on baroque cello; it's very different from the older recordings.
@TheSchmuck01
2 жыл бұрын
As a jazz tubist and trombonist, there is that real emphasis on technical precision above all else that gives you lots of graduates with very similar sounds who are almost interchangeably anonymous, whereas with the old school players you can listen blind for 10 seconds and know who it is. The other thing I've noticed is that whenever you put people in a recording studio they hold back and play it safe. Their whole focus is on getting it down without any mistakes, but the same people in a live show respond to the audience's energy and go large and go loud and damn the torpedoes.
@ThatBoomerDude56
4 жыл бұрын
5:53 Re-starting the great Wood Wind War of 2020. Clarinets, Oboes, Bassoons, and others (even Saxophones?) can join Recorders in their defense against Violins.
@maurmi
4 жыл бұрын
Some of play both, but this year I'm on the recorders' side
@mary_bblueraven
4 жыл бұрын
Okay but when he said the woodwind thing I instantly said out loud "Yeah but remembering all the keys is fucking hard there are so many holes and your running out of breath in this essay I will-" so uh....Yeah basically ehat you said lmao 😉😂
@Tubluer
4 жыл бұрын
And the flutes look down from the higher plane they live in, unaffected by anything but the quest for a higher artistry.
@ethanjonahjorge7994
4 жыл бұрын
I am on the strings team bc I play guitar
@emilia1911
4 жыл бұрын
As a recorder player, I'm obviously on the woodwind's side. (But what about flutes?)
@gregonline6506
2 жыл бұрын
You guys are so much fun nerding around and pushing my poor knowledge to new limits!
@sss-bx3vp
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a series of this, it opens my eyes so much...or my ears. As a non-musician I really love your explanation and demonstrations.
@historynerd7716
4 жыл бұрын
I have synesthesia so whenever you say “the color changes” I’m really confused for a second cause I’m like “well it’s still red to me...” but then I realize the context 😂
@violaisreallycool
4 жыл бұрын
That's so cool!
@davidhoffman6980
4 жыл бұрын
I have it too but I see a warm dark blue for D major. The closest thing to red I see is B major, but even then it's more of a warm 🍑 than a true red.
@nicofermr
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question haha. You literally see the color? Or is more like you "feel" the color? Im curious haha
@historynerd7716
4 жыл бұрын
@@nicofermr it’s sort of hard to describe haha i sort of feel the color in my minds eye-like you know when you’re trying to imagine something whilst lying in bed and you aren’t seeing it but you’re kinda feeling it? That’s the closest thing to it that I can sort of describe
@davidhoffman6980
3 жыл бұрын
@@nicofermr Hi. For me I often daydream or imagine things visually. When I here music in a certain key, the things I imagine are stained predominantly one color, like a color filter has been applied. I guess it works differently for different people.
@UlimorUdamenta
4 жыл бұрын
As a Baroque violinist, baroque bows give you a more natural "swelling and deflating" sound. "Messa di Voce" is a powerful tool. On the spot embellishments are also done besides vibrato. Brett and Eddy, I suggest you guys give Baroque bows a try. Hehe
@mgoguen7413
4 жыл бұрын
I love when they do videos like this. Really showcases their knowledge and talent. Another amazing video guys!!
@lienlee7654
Жыл бұрын
I feel like that I have just watched a Ted talk on violin interpretation history. This truly is a classical music educational channel!
@ApplepieFTW
4 жыл бұрын
Hats off, this was an especially good video. Like actually lots of solid content
@maybellelee6315
4 жыл бұрын
KZitem: I’m setting the quality of of the video to 480p Me: changes to 720p KZitem: *heh, you’re not gonna watch the video and I’ll give you the loading icon for two minutes*
@catto1752
4 жыл бұрын
Me: watching at 140p in the middle of a storm
@Fikamar27
4 жыл бұрын
I can only set until 360p/480p since internet connection in here slower than a snail sleeping
@MisaMisa03579
4 жыл бұрын
laughing in 1080p
@thulsa_doom
4 жыл бұрын
Having a 4k TV, watching a video uploaded in 1080p...
@tia283
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are what made me want to buy a violin. Now I begin lessons next week!!
@akashvenkatesh02
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@tia283
3 жыл бұрын
@@akashvenkatesh02 Thanks. Yeah, I'm not exactly a youngling either. (youngLING) :D I'm a Quinquagenarian.
@akashvenkatesh02
3 жыл бұрын
@@tia283 That's wonderful! Music transcends all age barriers :) Ling Ling is proud !
@goose6427
4 жыл бұрын
5:57 cries in flute
@MsDrientje
2 жыл бұрын
Both of their faces when Janine cranked out that last note with such a precision, that's the kind of appreciation I come here for. Not your tiktok stupid stuff even though that's fun too but it's the goosebumps and laughter.
@arandomyoutubeviewer3694
4 жыл бұрын
That umbrella stand is as broken as my intonation
@aisyarahandina5499
4 жыл бұрын
i love the way brett and eddy play to demonstrate and explain it! 💜✨ (+their expressions are precious-cuteness overload😫💜) brighten up my day with knowledge✨✨ please make another one!!✨✨
@maurmi
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, playing to demonstrate it really made a difference
@diana_cantabile
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, their playing was the highlight for me. Makes everything much clearer, and also i just love to hear them play
@Jinkaza1882
4 жыл бұрын
My first music history paper in while an undergrad compared the recordings of J.S. Bach's b Minor Mass preformed on period instruments with "period correct" interpretations to modern recordings . The long and short of it was this; if you asked Bach, "In 250 years time people will be arguing on how to preform your music. Would you rather them argue and your music be rarely played, or should they just play it with the sensibilities of their time?". I stated then, and still believe, that he would say-"PLAY THE MUSIC! I do not care. JUST PLAY IT." I got an A-. Pretty happy with that.
@victor-ti4oz
4 жыл бұрын
Petition for a violin vs guitar. War outbreak incoming
@happyyao3801
4 жыл бұрын
How violin playing changed: The unchanged: shaky bow
@emitch9213
Жыл бұрын
You guys, your reactions are what gives the best part to your videos. I am not a musician, although not left out of the opera and ballet world. I grew up with the old school and yes, born before 1962. I have had a lot of fun capturing your videos. I am going to introduce your sight to my young grandson, who has taken interest to the violin. Thank you for the shred joy. I continue to learn.
@maxdonaldson861
4 жыл бұрын
Can't lie I wish everyone played Bach like Milstein these days
@deepdark795
4 жыл бұрын
he was the best!
@oxoelfoxo
4 жыл бұрын
Love Baroque music and I like his playing but I also like Rachel Podger's and Janine Jansen's so I'm glad they don't all play like Milstein.
@koshersalaami
4 жыл бұрын
I like the Grumiaux recording best
@matthewpaterson5216
4 жыл бұрын
Milstein, Grumiaux, et all were the masters. No one can touch them. You can laugh at them all you like, but you are only displaying your stupidity.
@mra57
4 жыл бұрын
These guys are just barely tolerating NM? Really?! Then they compare to Podger???!
@haon5531
4 жыл бұрын
1:04 the way Brett flip his hair
@mariahdeforest4120
2 жыл бұрын
Im very excited by this educational approach - this is sooooo interesting! And the guys do a great, light-hearted touch on exploring the different styles. Loved it!
@Meli-nv3cq
4 жыл бұрын
Explaining the word “interpretation” with the verb “to interpret” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂
@stbard
4 жыл бұрын
NOT a skilled musician talking, but hear me out: Maybe early recordings sound more agressive due to the limitations of technology used to record music back then. I've noticed something similar with singing techniques back then, compared with now. Anyways, great content, as usual. Keep it up.
@xandraxandra1437
4 жыл бұрын
Mayr Magalhães But the playing is different too, not only the sound. Like how use they the notes and break the cords.
@CarolynOsborne
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the music recording technology was very different. At the same time, the big violinists then were people like Heifetz who studied with Leopold Auer. Tschaikovsky wrote his violin concerto for Auer, who refused to play it, but who then taught it to his students, including Heifetz. The technique needed at that time for the concerto (which you can hear Brett do in a couple videos) was different from Bach, who had largely fallen out of favor during the Romantic period. I'm so glad that you are engaging in this conversation and I wanted to give you some more context to think about.
@brent3522
4 жыл бұрын
It's called "projection", and back then, it mattered. It's kind of sad and actually frustrating that it's being slowly being downplayed. I see it as a form of laziness and some sort of cheating since projection takes great effort to do correctly and is a different technique in its own.
@MissCaraMint
4 жыл бұрын
Brent Arnwulf Banaag I do see where you’re coming from. It’s super impressive to see an opera singer on stage singing with zero emplification. On the other hand microphones offer new ways of getting accross musical consepts and emotion. I really like some of the singing and playing styles that have come from it, I just hope projection isn’t forgotten allrigether.
@xfortunesquex
4 жыл бұрын
Possibly, yeah. I also just sense a kind of... emotional, weepy quality from the older ones as well. They seem to really want to evoke passion and feelings.
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