I have a performance rather than a literary background. I did a national tour once, we performed in big theatres - and I do love theatres - but what sticks out was performing in a village hall up north. They laid on food for us, THEY performed for us in the pub afterwards, getting out the musical instruments and we joined in. It was wonderful. Small places that don't produce much profit are so important. They are the life blood of the arts. I love books too and book festivals are so vital.
@all-range-mode
27 күн бұрын
Richard's Fresh Prince dad jokes are first class ! 🤣
@rojh9351
27 күн бұрын
And I’d like to take a minute Just sit right there And I’ll tell you how I slapped Chris Rock live on air.
@bernardwathen9349
28 күн бұрын
Will Smith and Tom Cruise are two people who have always struck me as the ultimate glad-handers
@Elwaves2925
28 күн бұрын
Is that in a good or bad way?
@nathanphackett
28 күн бұрын
I don't think I've ever heard that term before, but I obviously know the type. Yeah, you're right.
@biegebythesea6775
27 күн бұрын
what does that even mean?
@Elwaves2925
27 күн бұрын
@@biegebythesea6775 An overly friendly or familiar person. Someone that is, or seems friendly but in an over the top way.
@maxine2798
27 күн бұрын
From their actions could you just say “twats”.
@jodybartley7452
27 күн бұрын
Great episode. Great too see real passion on a subject close to your heart
@ecotherapist
27 күн бұрын
Grenades of Empathy sound like a band who would have supported The Folksmen
@richardcook1987
28 күн бұрын
Two Barney walsh's. Marina is savage. 😂
@lakrids-pibe
27 күн бұрын
Who is Barney Walsh? I don't get the reference.
@biegebythesea6775
27 күн бұрын
@@lakrids-pibe He's the co-presenter of 'the gladiators' (bbc tv sport-adjacent competition).
@tristiemerritt6473
27 күн бұрын
@@biegebythesea6775 You're confusing son Barney with dad Bradley [which means you can't be British either!]. Presumably the reference is to someone who is in the public eye for reasons other than their charisma and talent.
@biegebythesea6775
27 күн бұрын
@@tristiemerritt6473 ah. I am British (I'm from London), I just misread, that's all.
@richardcook1987
27 күн бұрын
@@lakrids-pibe exactly. Hes a talentless nobody
@ChrisH78
28 күн бұрын
Marina invoking the spirit of Kevin Keegan 35:22
@davidgorman7911
28 күн бұрын
- I see one of the Best Actor nominees took a swing at the host last night - Javier Bardem? - Not yet, but apparently the Academy are talking about a long suspension
@Deckard20190
27 күн бұрын
32:00: George Orwell, Why I Write, 1946 : 'Using the word ‘political’ in the widest possible sense. Desire to push the world in a certain direction, to alter other peoples’ idea of the kind of society that they should strive after. Once again, no book is genuinely free from political bias. The opinion that art should have nothing to do with politics is itself a political attitude'
@davidpatton8086
27 күн бұрын
What on earth are you talking about?All books are political? What rubbish. Just because politics dominates your horizons doesn’t mean it dominates everyone else’s. The final sentence of your post, which I can’t be bothered to repeat, is such a general statement as to be devoid of meaning. Please just go back to your sad corner of the 6th form common room.
@Deckard20190
27 күн бұрын
@@davidpatton8086 There is no point making ad hominem attacks, it’s a direct quote from one of George Orwell’s most famous essays.
@LoudMinded
10 күн бұрын
@@davidpatton8086 You don't quite understand the meaning of "political".
@davidpatton8086
10 күн бұрын
@@LoudMinded please enlighten me oh great one, but don’t use such a generalist definition as to make it devoid of meaning (as per my original comment).
@LoudMinded
10 күн бұрын
@@davidpatton8086 Both your comments are rude, so it's clear you're not really asking a question.
@sayeager5559
28 күн бұрын
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog is Robert Smigles "alter ego" Smigle is brilliant.
@lisamortini8567
27 күн бұрын
He was a Conan O'Brien regular for years! He's epic.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
27 күн бұрын
@@lisamortini8567 Writer on the show as well...
@byronc6790
28 күн бұрын
Here for the premiere cause I couldn't wait
@Julia_Reads
27 күн бұрын
I really appreciate Richard's thoughtful response to the festival situation. Book festivals (and public libraries!!) are absolutely vital spaces for building empathy and sharing ideas. But, as you say, the world IS on fire and we do have to do something. What happened in this instance wasn't necessarily the right action. And it certainly wasn't done with enough thought. But I can understand their motivations, even if I think this specific tactic was somewhat naive and ill-judged. Marina's rant was hard to listen to.
@Neddoest
27 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@ronbrown9268
23 күн бұрын
Her rant was dumb and extremely disingenuous
@jimgarrison8844
13 күн бұрын
Marina! I know you won't read this but I am absolutely enthralled by your passion and comments. Well said on all accounts. Don't stop.
@Cchogan
27 күн бұрын
Promoting, protesting... we are in a world of amateurs at the moment where people who are protesting quite legitimate problems, simply do not understand how people work and think, and so often now, their message is lost behind the action they take. If you are campaigning for anything, especially something that ultimately must be in the hands of government, then you have to get people on side. The more of you the better. But so many of these groups, Just Stop Oil jumps to mind, end up alienating the general public - and these are the very people they need to support them. The moment what you do is described as a "stunt," you have got it wrong. I think a great lesson can be learnt from what happened around Greta, Extinction Rebelian, and David Attenborough. Greta's original protest inconvenienced no one, but it generated a HUGE amount of publicity for her cause. Then she got involved with ER, and it has kind of backfired a little. People have become irritated by her, and have stopped litstening, which is a shame. Then, David Attenborough stood up, met her, and did his own piece about the environment. His single appearence raised the issue far more successfully than anything ER have done. He is famous (for the right reason) and his intervention inconvenienced no one. No surprise it scored hugely. Upsetting authors, and author's fans, does not sound like a good way of getting a message across. These protest groups are desperate for a strategist who can steer them through the process of good campaigning and get results for them, and not bad headlines.
@rachelstubley2539
26 күн бұрын
The Extinction Rebellion (XR) people I've met/listened to are an extremely thoughtful bunch who reflect on all these issues. They include a very 'broad church' of supporters - a big challenge in itself but very necessary if we're going to get anywhere on climate action and justice... So there's direct action, but there are also collaborations with more traditional organisations e.g. on *Saturday 22 June* there's a *Restore Nature Now* march in London that is a coalition between XR, RSPB, World Wildlife Fund, National Trust, with Chris Packham and other well known popular scientists speaking/supporting. Come along - 12pm Park Lane to Parliament Sq...
@chrislesiter4531
28 күн бұрын
Triumph the Comic Insult Dog was on Late Night with Conan O'Brien.
@neosquirrel
27 күн бұрын
I feel in the case of BB4: RoD it’s not a case that Will is bankable, but that there’s a lot of love for the personas of the two characters and the wild Michael Bay bang-bang blow up summer action; this is an outlier. Will hasn’t been bankable for years even before the slap. The nepotism for his son trying to pick up his mantle at the box office didn’t work at all, even when he funded a Karate Kid remake starring Jaden and didn’t even feature karate in the first place. His Netflix movies have been largely forgettable and unless they bring him back for yet another Men in Black, he’s just not going to carry a movie on his own.
@Ryanneey
27 күн бұрын
Oh, I remember Triumph the dog. He always had a cigar hanging out of his mouth 😅
@alangreenway6695
27 күн бұрын
I hadn’t thought or cared about Will Smith for 5 years before the slap. He seemed a bit of a passenger to his previous fame. Then he actually showed he actually had a personality, even if it was a bit broken.
@lisamortini8567
28 күн бұрын
I'm thinking that most people in the Oscars' audience must have thought it was a comedy bit and not real!
@TSKseattle
27 күн бұрын
I saw the trailer and said "nope". they haven't one ME over.
@hobson9999
24 күн бұрын
Fair enough but seems like many disagree
@neilturner1661
28 күн бұрын
Is Richard wearing the same suit from the Graham Norton episode 17:16 love the reuse but just a funny coincidence
@simonmeadows7961
28 күн бұрын
With the TV debates, one of the most off-putting things is the constant interruptions and talking/shouting over one another. Can the producers get some sort of soundproof booths (like in Nick Knowles' quiz show: Who Dares Wins) where the sound is cut off after the alloted time?
@phueal
27 күн бұрын
Marina's point about politicisation of art is well taken, but she needs to articulate where she thinks the boundaries lie. After all, Russia has been banned from things like the Olympics and the Eurovision Song Contest, which was wildly popular in the West including in the UK - is she against that kind of politicisation, thinking that Russia should still be allowed to compete? Where does she draw the line?
@jsquire5pa
27 күн бұрын
She’s not the brightest
@gma5607
27 күн бұрын
The podcast does have a limited runtime, we can't reasonably expect her to articulate her entire view of an immense subject in that time. You can't assume she thinks X or Y and treat that as a gotcha just because the format didn't contain every detail of her opinion. In fact they have talked about Eurovison in a previous episode and how it putting itself forward as a moral arbiter and the face of Peace has put it in a fraught position.
@Stuffings00
25 күн бұрын
@@gma5607and mentioned the boycott of Sun City in what seemed a positive light in contrast. I’d be interested in whether it’s the classic case of things being correct when done by others in the past
@ronbrown9268
23 күн бұрын
Her line is whenever it affects something she's interested in.
@agathemeherio2258
27 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, once more for what you do here. This is one program I cannot get enough of! Seems to me that anyone who thinks that a book festival is a priority target for that kind of blackmail/ activism has an issue with the very fact of books in their infinite variety. I don't like that person, whoever they think they are. An easy target, possibly, a suitable one, no.
@TMThesaurus
17 күн бұрын
The notion of apolitical art is itself a political statement.
@emdiar6588
26 күн бұрын
Coolness, once squandered, is very difficult, if not impossible, to regain.
@matiia
27 күн бұрын
Completely agree with Brandon Walsh comments, would not get a presenting job unless the great Bradley was his father.
@jehan514
27 күн бұрын
Marinas speech on the politicization of art is a point well stated, and one that I passionately agree with.
@rachelstubley2539
26 күн бұрын
I partly agree - artists should be free to create the art they want/need to, and don't *have* to take part in political conversations - but Marina badly misrepresents Fossil Free Books (see my comment). She's so harsh it's almost like it's hit a nerve with her quite personally...
@ChrisH78
28 күн бұрын
Jada wakes up every single day with a new idea about how to publicly humiliate Will Smith.
@CamMcGinn1981
28 күн бұрын
32:15 - Marina looking at the camera and you can see her weighing up what she can get away with saying. Love your work, both of you. And hearing that a new series of House of Games is filming filled me with such joy. I can't wait.
@KSPRAYDAD
27 күн бұрын
I didn't forget, screw that guy.
@morganthedruid1
27 күн бұрын
I didn't get the Barney Walsh reference or similar wording name that Marina used that made Richard fall apart and almost disown the phrase, 41:15
@maldaror7097
27 күн бұрын
The really weird thing is that the first two Bad Boys had Martin Lawrence as top billing.
@Joley964
26 күн бұрын
Westlife bar stools 😂😂😂
@achatwithalex474
27 күн бұрын
But in all seriousness, if we really want to cement change in the industry, should we not be condemning all forms of assault and threatening behaviour? I don't want to be on a high horse, but the breeze with which Will Smith has returned, whether he's welcomed is another thing, surprises me. Maybe it shouldn't. But Assuming what Marina says is true, he's been employed by DISNEY? I mean, really? Not a great look. I don't know. I just think sometimes we're more interested in highlighting individual incidents because the details and circumstances involved match our own agenda's and perceptions than we are actually wanting to see better working conditions for all.
@poulton77
25 күн бұрын
Did you really just end it by saying c u next tuesday! 😂
@dixieflatline1189
27 күн бұрын
Will Smith hasn't saved his career "post slap" at all. And quite rightly so. People have been labelled "Difficult to work with" for not sleeping with the producer / director and their career was over. Will Smith cause a global outrage . Chris Rock is the the only person that came out of this with his integrity intact. We need to stop promoting the idea that anyone can do anything and still be redeemed (because they make bank)
@amac2675
27 күн бұрын
You raise an interesting point, because when they mentioned him probably not playing Obama in a future movie, my gut reaction was, ‘They’re wrong.’ Perhaps an indictment of where we’re at as a society (or more to the point, where Hollywood’s at 😅)?
@kondwanimande7567
24 күн бұрын
Keep crying
@ComicbookSam
25 күн бұрын
Grenades of empathy
@PaulHaigh072
25 күн бұрын
Golly, cross Marina nearly converted me.
@eyeyayayay
23 күн бұрын
Richard Osman is about a clued in on TV from 2000-2006 as anyone I can think of, yet he doesn't know Triumph the Insult Comic Dog?
@sarahadam8334
26 күн бұрын
Regarding the literature and politics discussion Can Richard and Mariana Tell us about the pressure on apartheid by artist And how it helped in ending apartheid
@thatschilltssk6274
13 күн бұрын
Had to google what a barnywalsh was.
@rosalie7029
27 күн бұрын
What a great episode! Love the discussion about art and politics. Why are activists targeting art galleries and authors? It's not an effective tool for protest IMO. Remember ActUp and BuggaUp? Strong and effective.
@cipherhex
28 күн бұрын
Geez, get of the fence, Marina! 😂
@michaelrobson3460
27 күн бұрын
Wow, Newcastle has 5 cinemas and a population of less than a million.
@michaelrobson3460
24 күн бұрын
6 I forgot the jam jar in Whitley bay
@RAINE____
15 күн бұрын
Wow, that rant at 33:00 about contraction of the mind was quite something. Podcasts are usually full of the ignorant and arrogant making overly obvious statements. But that was well-said.
@pru3230
25 күн бұрын
I understand and agree with some of Marina’s frustration about protest tactics. Not everything should be forcibly politicised, especially the arts. BUT i really think its short-sighted to assume the people organising protests are stupid or ignorant. So many people who do not participate in trying to fix the problems of the world are quick to criticise tactics, but they forget that campaigners have been following the “correct channels” for decades with very very little progress. They are forced to try radical actions because those with power to make meaningful change refuse to do so again and again despite the presence of rational, scientific arguments, and these protesters are forced to leverage immense influence with next to no actual power in their hands. Id like to hear Marina’s suggestions for getting major corporations to drop fossil fuels that haven’t already been tried and failed by hard working activists.
@peoplevrobot
28 күн бұрын
Will Smith's career is going to be revived because 1. studios really prefer to finance films from existing IP (like Bad Boys and MCU etc) and with established stars because the financial risk profile is less than standalone/new IP or rising stars and 2. Which actor has a track record where they could be considered a valid substitute for Will Smith? Marina made the point that the top movie stars are old, that is because studios are more risk averse.
@hobson9999
24 күн бұрын
Didnt bad boys 3 come out after the slap incident? & that did brilliant too. Majority have moved on don't really care just want to watch Will Smirh in bad boys & ironically the slap is win for most of us because we get Will Smith back doing what he does best in films like bad boys. And he gets to be around people hes known for ages & gets to put what happened behind him make no.1 hit films again. Funny enough the only people really still banging on about the slap is Chris Rock & co using it ad materiall etc so thete winners too lol.
@element4element4
27 күн бұрын
Minor correction: 25:25 NVIDIA is not the largest FAB in the world, they are actually the opposite: a so-called fabless chip design company. Meaning they do not have a FAB and produce no chips themselves. Instead TSMC, the largest FAB, makes the chips for them. TSMC also makes chips for apple, AMD, ARM, Broadcom, Qualcomm and many many others.
@tomwoodhouse7690
27 күн бұрын
I heard ‘firm’ and not fab
@element4element4
27 күн бұрын
@@tomwoodhouse7690 I'm not sure, could be firm she said. But they are also not the largest firm in the world, although they are getting close (measured by market cap).
@HjRobins
27 күн бұрын
well isn't that fab
@Phreedumb
27 күн бұрын
How many thumbnails/titles will this video have had by the end of the day?
@chrisglaister9303
26 күн бұрын
How much did they pay you to advertise the Lamicall S1 phone stand? #productplacement
@Mourinho335
26 күн бұрын
39:00
@moderndesigner
20 күн бұрын
Has Marina Hyde condemned the IDF? Has she recognised the military actions in Gaza as genocide?
@vincentwinqvist4023
26 күн бұрын
Sorry - but everything, including art, is politics. And politics is everything. That relationship is why there's currently so little public funding for arts and why DeSantis has a war on Disney. What we NEED is nuance. A corporation can do some things without being completely evil and a festival can be wonderful even if it has some associations we'd rather it didn't.
@eyeyayayay
23 күн бұрын
Yes, everything involves political relationships. But not everything is an appropriate forum for political protest about whichever issue is dear to anyone's heart.
@vincentwinqvist4023
23 күн бұрын
@@eyeyayayay I would argue that it is impossible to make a significant statement, much less an artistic statement, without also making a political one. At the very least you're stating that "in regard to things portrayed, I'm accepting of the status quo."
@JohnDoe-tp8mc
27 күн бұрын
George “Daddy” Bush is going to give me nightmares forever..
@terrystewart1973
27 күн бұрын
There seem to be an awful lot of people criticising Marina over paper not being a “fossil fuel product”. That might be true, but paper doesn't just fall off of trees, it's created by paper mills which have a lot of environmental impact via water usage, pollution (bleaching paper for example), creation of waste, and yes, use of fossil fuels
@rachelstubley2539
26 күн бұрын
Of course there's an environmental cost to many/most industrial processes, but the main thrust of Fossil Free Books is against the extractive industries (which is the meaning of 'fossil fuels') - so it was a bizarre comment in a pretty unsympathetic rant...
@martinrobinson9061
27 күн бұрын
I won’t watch everything with Will Smith in since that Oscar night.
@hobson9999
24 күн бұрын
🙄
@bobjames5781
2 күн бұрын
“Puritans” spot on!!!
@PaulMcCaffreyfmac
28 күн бұрын
In the past I have been more of a Depp fan than a Smith fan but only by a small margin. Now I really don't care if I don't see either of them and if I'm in a bad mood to start with I'll actively avoid them both. I really don't feel that I'm missing out on any 'must see' films.
@johnkearsey3020
24 күн бұрын
Great discussion on the book fair boycott. Loved the Shakespeare analogy! Always entertaining, but also thought provoking today.
@sarahadam8334
25 күн бұрын
Dear Mariana May be what the wreckers want to wreck is an apartheid /settler colonialist system Is there anything wrong in that ? It does not mean you hate the art
@radlord
25 күн бұрын
Also taking the piss out of the ‘disparate’ list of aims they have is fairly ignorant I think. This is the exact definition of intersectionality, and why it’s so important. Let’s the liberal types mock it all they want, they always do and always will. It’s easy to not be a hypocrite if you stand up for nothing.
@danpalmer5451
27 күн бұрын
Angry Marina makes me feel funny, like when I climbed the rope in gym class.
@RaphaelBriand
23 күн бұрын
Damn, Marina Hyde went in
@eastvandb
27 күн бұрын
All due respect, the Shakespeare comparison is pretty weak. Elizabethan England was a police state. Shakespeare making overt political statements would have been a risk on a scale completely incomparable to anything being discussed in this video. He's a lot more like Shostakovich negotiating Stalin's USSR. I love Shakespeare, but if a major Shakespeare festival is being sponsored by a fossil fuel company, I'm all for someone organizing a boycott. Also, Shakespeare's work has always been political. He massaged the egos of kings and queens to curry favour. And how Shakespeare is interpreted in any given age is a reflection of the politics and pre-occupations of the age. He's regularly used as a justification of Empire. He's really not a good one to bring up if you want to argue against the idea of art being political.
@melodycybergal7605
23 күн бұрын
WRT Bailey Gifford, it seems to me that one of the organisers of this protest has lost a lot of money through their investments and is trying to take revenge.
@ronniepye
27 күн бұрын
50:00 bring back Dennis Pennis, in a new more political role. Or.. just send in Jonathan Pie.
@fungirl0123456
27 күн бұрын
Respectfully Will Smith was NEVER cancelled in the black community. Nothing to "redeemed" from
@maryt8600
27 күн бұрын
I would recommend the cancel court episodes on will Smith jada scenario by defiant digital
There she is again, visibly gawping away from Richard (to his left). What the heck keeps pulling her attention?
@redarmy102
27 күн бұрын
More of Marina searing please 😂
@solipsismworld
27 күн бұрын
I won't try to argue with the box office numbers, but personally I still have no interest in seeing anything Will Smith is in. He's no Kevin Spacey or Mel Gibson, but his grinning face hits totally differently now.
@billswifejo
26 күн бұрын
I don’t watch the Oscars bur I wish I had seen this one. Personally, I feel that Chris Rock should face at least equal condemnation for making such a personal dig at a person’s problem. As a woman, particularly one in the public eye, making a joke about her alopecia from the stage was planned and unforgivable. Losing one’s temper when your wife is ridiculed is completely understandable.
@maryhowland3558
26 күн бұрын
From Henry V, Chorus act 4... How London doth pour out her citizens! The mayor and all his brethren in best sort, Like to the senators of the antique Rome, With the plebeians swarming at their heels, Go forth and fetch their conquering Caesar in: As, by a lower but loving likelihood, Were now the general of our gracious empress, As in good time he may, from Ireland coming, Bringing rebellion broached on his sword, How many would the peaceful city quit, To welcome him! much more, and much more cause, Did they this Harry. I think Shakey appears to be generally approving of Elizabeth's tactics
@duncanpaton7344
28 күн бұрын
Bad boys 4 “ride or die” is a terrible title! Considering throughout the series they say “bad boys for life” it’s like the perfect title is starring them in the face 😂
@sonofliberty1
27 күн бұрын
They already used Bad Boys For Life for the last (3rd) film.
@duncanpaton7344
27 күн бұрын
@@sonofliberty1 ah yes so they did! My mistake….
@RyanJ_
24 күн бұрын
Marina has such strong opinions about Fossil Free Books, yet believes paper is a fossil fuel product...
@annabelstewart1423
28 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTELY LOVE MARINA ❤
@sl1msn1per
27 күн бұрын
Well said Marina, bravo
@ivanlondon
18 күн бұрын
God forbid someone touches our very delightful literary festivals! How about they find a sponsor that doesn't contribute to climate catastrophe?? Marina Hyde here winning her (old pal) Gwyneth Paltrow Award for being the most out of touch journalist of the month
@malibu_caribou6465
27 күн бұрын
It's extremely illuminating that the first time I've seen Marina get truly passionate about anything is coming out against climate protesters. At least Richard gave a reasoned argument and was able to see both sides. Marina talking complete nonsense about paper being fossil fuels was reminiscent of the infamous 'You can grow concrete' interview by Mike Graham. Nothing says blind privilege like spitting feathers about a company being asked to divest 2% of their investments in fossil fuels. Unbelievable. Also, it's ironic that she says politics has no place in the arts when she's just spent half a podcast ostensibly about the arts espousing her own political position. You've lost this listener but on the plus side, I'm sure you've consolidated your chronically out-of-touch NIMBY viewership.
@Neddoest
27 күн бұрын
It certainly makes me reconsider listening to another. I’m having a terrible day in general but seeing your comment, along with the others disagreeing with her, has made me feel a little better for humanity, so thanks for that.
@malibu_caribou6465
27 күн бұрын
@@Neddoest Nothing frustrates me more than seeing venomous pushback against the few people brave enough to actually try to enact some sort of systemic change to slow down the climate crisis. Especially when you've previously held those pushing back in such relatively high esteem. I'm glad my comment managed to brighten your day a little. Here's hoping for a better tomorrow.
@phueal
27 күн бұрын
Which political position was she espousing?? Do you mean the political position that politics has no place in the arts?
@malibu_caribou6465
27 күн бұрын
@@phueal Arguing that FFB are 'indulged, spoilt and weak'. Claiming that what they are doing is stupid. That Baillie Gifford are philanthropic rather than green washing. That no one can be 'pure enough' so why bother trying to make any changes at all. The convenient omission of the fact that FFB are supported by hundreds of authors. She has a very clear opinion on what is a highly political and politicised topic and she's used her platform to push that view. I hope this helps.
@phueal
27 күн бұрын
@@malibu_caribou6465 I see, I thought you were talking about a broader political opinion. In that case I don’t think it’s ironic for her to criticise the politicisation of art while at the same time expressing her opinion that art shouldn’t be politicised.
@HowNoNow
27 күн бұрын
The whole book festival discussion maps onto the Just Stop Oil vandalism of Art. It's politicising art, which should be left to stand as art independent from the politic of the time. But that does not mean we don't need to stop oil. Both art and stopping oil are good. But separate.
@Stuffings00
25 күн бұрын
The suffragettes actions and even specific printing choices have been emulated by Just Stop Oil, btw
@dippydogz
26 күн бұрын
The FFB suggest a just transition but simply don’t have the expertise to achieve that - all well intentioned but a total car crash.
@miketrebert7788
28 күн бұрын
Jane, I'm from Sydney too. What's the problem? This was and still very much is inside baseball. I've been a fan of Marina's journalism for a long time. I love seeing her in action. It's fun watching Richard scramble to keep up with her. He's such a decent man and they get along so well.
@JPBelanger
22 күн бұрын
I remember a couple of years back I was at the Metropolitan Museum in New York. There was a group of people who had bought tickets to come in that were protesting fossil fuels. In New York. Where there are TONS of cars outside. Seems like a better target. However, it was 97 degrees outside. I think they came in for the air conditionning.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0
27 күн бұрын
The whole cancel culture is mostly gone. That is why Will Smith is doing fine these days... It got to where anytime I saw hate flung at a person on-line it was a 99% chance that they were getting attacked because of how wonderful a human they were and the corrupt few were getting the crowds to attack the lovely people who scare the corrupt bastards...
@fightthepowerman
28 күн бұрын
Marinas point about Shakespeare and "awful thingsbalways happening" really falls down when you realise we have the internet. When you're learning about second world war as a teen you ask "why didn't we do something sooner?" And the techer says,"we didn't know." Well this time we do know. Were watching the consequences in real time. Everything is politics when your politicians are complicit in atrocious acts that you can see the evidence of.
@fightthepowerman
28 күн бұрын
Puritans and wreckers she says. "Don't use your power. Just accept the slaughtered children. I want to meet Antony Horowitz and thats more important"
@axels9179
27 күн бұрын
Well that's a bit of the point. "We have the internet", "we have alle the info on our phones" - well, those phones, those big companies that drive the internet are just as "bad" as Baillie Gifford". It¨s crazy to protest against Baillie Gifford and let book festivals collapse while they sell their books at Amazon or Waterstones. That's the problem with these kinds of campaigns. Don't like oil? Well, at least not buy phones, use the internet or buy cheap clothes from China, then you can go after things like book festival and their sponsors...
@fightthepowerman
27 күн бұрын
@axels9179 So sorry we're not sticking to the prescribed axels9179 sequence of events. You can actually make phones without exploitation. Big companies that 'drive the internet' can be broken up or bought under public ownership, so there's less incentive to act badly. Chinese factories can be (and are regularly) reformed. There's no commodity you can buy currently that doesn't involve exploitation. Gen**ide can not be performed ethically. Settler colonialism is always unjustifiable. It is correct to ostracize people who lack such basic morals. There are also 10s of countries that condemn the colony that I am against. A colony that traces its roots back to the British empire. The empire from which America was bourne.... you know, that colony that gen***ded 120 million people? Are you really too dense to understand the implications? Are you really so impossibly idiotic to not see the fire bombing of refugee camps as more urgent than the plight of the Chinese worker? Do you seriously think g***cide is as endemic as capitalist exploitation? That we _have_ to engage with it daily to live our lives? Do you really think the assembly of iPhones is more of a problem then the fact that the only country that has ever dropped nuclear arms on civilians are unconditionally supporting the only country with nuclear arms that has never allowed weapons inspectors? A country that has ignored over 1000 UN resolutions? Your answer to this powder keg that could amount to an existential threat is "but iPhone?" "but book festival?" Come on, man.
@rachelstubley2539
26 күн бұрын
@@axels9179 I think it was a very problematic action, but Fossil Free Books is a writers' union, so they were doing their bit in their own industry... it's up to the rest of us to do our bit in our own workplaces/communities...
@axels9179
26 күн бұрын
@@rachelstubley2539 Well, their not "doing their bit in their own industry". Their action of going after Baillie Grifford and forcing them out as a sponsor has massively hurt book festivals in UK, while they still are on Amazon and promote their books via Waterstones and similar outlets. That's not doing their bit, that is singling out 1 of the lesser evils in their industry and making huge ramifications for parts of their industry while they themselve are not taking a financial hit. That's just double standards and is pretty appaling behaviour.... If they believe protesting against fossil fuels is truly important, why go after a pretty small "middle-man" like Baillie Grifford while still earning money of parts of the industry that are much more involved in fossil fuels?
@mev202
24 күн бұрын
I disagree with Marina's point about all because a sponsor does some good things, we should ignore the bad things. Investing in fossil fuels will destroy the trees that the paper is made from, therefore, the price of books will increase. I understand that these book festivals are important and need sponsors to help them. But there are ethical companies out there with deep pockets.
@grammapolice
22 күн бұрын
Marina showing her true limited understanding of what art is as she shows us that hint of fascism that really makes her tick- she always sounds a bit foolish whenever she brings up economics but in this one she literally argues that some people should be silenced so that she doesn’t have to think about her role in the state of the world
@themanmrbijok7364
22 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate? I don’t agree with Hyde though, but would like some clarification.
@grammapolice
21 күн бұрын
@@themanmrbijok7364 her expressed view is that established corporations who have financial ties to genocide and destruction should have the ability to curate voices, but a small but effective protester should not. She is visibly annoyed that the protest is causing a reaction and therefore ruining her proverbial brunch and “yucking her yum.” It’s the classic classist neoliberal response akin to, “don’t protest, be less disruptive and work within the broken irreparable system quietly (and with little to no effect)” In this video she is concerned about a millionaire slapping another millionaire in public, but she goes apoplectic about a working class protest movement inconveniencing her and her rich colleagues.
@verngriffiths5933
26 күн бұрын
Marina should only ever do this show whilst jet lagged....
@wheelb
28 күн бұрын
Naive take on the divestment movement. Things could have been executed better by FFB, but thinking corporate art-washing is simply a move of goodwill feels a bit too neoliberal. Let's not blame the individual when systemic change is needed.
@tristiemerritt6473
27 күн бұрын
Not naive at all. If anyone's been naive it's been FFB and their cheerleaders. They've completely crashed a car [six cars in fact] that don't even belong to them. As Marina says so powerfully, why must a literary festival be subject to a purity test that the publishing industry, authors and FFB would themselves clearly fail. If systemic change is what you want get the authors to get their books off Amazon, stop infantilizing themselves on oligopolistic social media to sell their brand etc.
@wheelb
27 күн бұрын
@@tristiemerritt6473 Because a large literature festival allowing itself to be used as a vehicle for art-washing means that it is perpetuating whatever Bailie Gifford wants to clean its name of or distract consumers from with nice literature (spoiler, that Sacklers didn’t create wings in every major art institution because they had a passion for art). Bailie Gifford knows that if there weren't able to do this, consumers would associate their name to things that are less pretty; here fossil fuels, but there are many others. Equating individual behaviour (like using Amazon to market your work out of necessity, or saying the fault is with the person who’s pension is managed by Bailie Gifford) with regulatory and policy change is music to the ears of the corporates (see BP's creation of the individual carbon footprint). It's a crying shame that in this case book festivals are lost, but there are many many other spaces of literature and ideas, independent of the control of investment firms who apparently love the spread of ideas and diversity of thought so much but they can't quite seem to find it in their being to stop investing in the companies directly suppressing those very things.
@wheelb
27 күн бұрын
@@tristiemerritt6473 Because a large literature festival allowing itself to be used as a vehicle for art-washing means that it is perpetuating whatever Bailie Gifford wants to clean its name of or distract consumers from with nice literature (spoiler, that Sacklers didn’t create wings in every major art institution because they had a passion for art). Bailie Gifford knows that if there weren't able to do this, consumers would associate their name to things that are less pretty; here fossil fuels, but there are many others. Equating individual behaviour (like using Amazon to market your work out of necessity, or saying the fault is with the person who’s pension is managed by Bailie Gifford) with regulatory and policy change is music to the ears of the corporates (see BP's creation of the individual carbon footprint). It's a crying shame that in this case book festivals are lost, but there are many many other spaces of literature and ideas, independent of the control of investment firms who apparently love the spread of ideas and diversity of thought so much but they can't quite seem to find it in their being to stop investing in the companies directly suppressing those very things.
@wheelb
27 күн бұрын
@@tristiemerritt6473 Because a large literature festival allowing itself to be used as a vehicle for art-washing means that it is perpetuating whatever Bailie Gifford wants to clean its name of or distract consumers from with nice literature (spoiler, that Sacklers didn’t create wings in every major art institution because they had a passion for art). Bailie Gifford knows that if there weren't able to do this, consumers would associate their name to things that are less pretty; here fossil fuels, but there are many others. Equating individual behaviour (like using Amazon to market your work out of necessity, or saying the fault is with the person who’s pension is managed by Bailie Gifford) with regulatory and policy change is music to the ears of the corporates (see BP's creation of the individual carbon footprint). It's a crying shame that in this case book festivals are lost, but there are many many other spaces of literature and ideas, independent of the control of investment firms who apparently love the spread of ideas and diversity of thought so much but they can't quite seem to find it in their being to stop investing in the companies directly suppressing those very things.
@wheelb
27 күн бұрын
@@tristiemerritt6473 Because a large literature festival allowing itself to be used as a vehicle for art-washing means that it is perpetuating whatever Bailie Gifford wants to clean its name of or distract consumers from with nice literature (spoiler, that Sacklers didn’t create wings in every major art institution because they had a passion for art). Bailie Gifford knows that if there weren't able to do this, consumers would associate their name to things that are less pretty; here fossil fuels, but there are many others. Equating individual behaviour (like using Amazon to market your work out of necessity, or saying the fault is with the person who’s pension is managed by Bailie Gifford) with regulatory and policy change is music to the ears of the corporates (see BP's creation of the individual carbon footprint). It's a crying shame that in this case book festivals are lost, but there are many many other spaces of literature and ideas, independent of the control of investment firms who apparently love the spread of ideas and diversity of thought so much but they can't quite seem to find it in their being to stop investing in the companies directly suppressing those very things.
@markdaly1648
25 күн бұрын
I listened to will smiths biography on Spotify and jeebus, talk about arrogant, arrogant, arrogant. Narcissist. There is only one person allowed in the world of big wille stylrs
@eyeyayayay
23 күн бұрын
The worst pressure groups spend most of their time making their causes into "public issues" (ie., media circuses) rather than simply going and talking to the people involved and providing them with information about their cause. Going to the media and using public events as attention seeking methods should always be a last resort, as it is the most indirect way to get the attention of the people you want to talk to and it usually hurts third parties in the process.
@idyllbs
28 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but you really can’t compare Will Smith to Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise didn’t hit anyone. He may be weird but he doesn’t assault people. I can’t find anything about Will Smith’s behavior funny. He is nearly the same age as my father and he still cannot contain himself obviously. Pitiful. The fact that he chose to hit Chris Rock who is physically smaller than him speaks volumes. Would you be so entertained if Chris was a woman? Will Smith is a bully. If you don’t stand up against bullies they tend to do it again and to more vulnerable people. It wasn’t funny then. It isn’t funny now.
@kh2040
27 күн бұрын
I completely agree with your views about book festivals.
@asoiseth
22 күн бұрын
This podcast/show just gets better and better.
@FarmerJAB
27 күн бұрын
Please please please may next week’s episode be about the entertainment industry and how it works.
@sarunas8002
27 күн бұрын
is my monitor dying, or is this 1080p youtube in 2024 ?
@kubricksmith
26 күн бұрын
29:15 Marina! Books and Paper are not fossil fuels, they're made from a sustainable resource!
@finncasey9941
27 күн бұрын
Well done Marina❤
@mustafabeer1791
14 күн бұрын
Well said Marina, bit disappointed of Richard's fence sitting.
@Paranormaltorch
26 күн бұрын
I wondered if you could talk about why the BBC/DIsney have hidden the viewing figures for Doctor who - is it really that shockingly bad ?
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