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@feellnfroggy
4 ай бұрын
They got bought a few years ago. It’s not better.
@UncleBogator
4 ай бұрын
@@feellnfroggy maybe not for customers. Curious an about the work environment though. Locally owned dealers tend to be all over the place and inconsistent with policy/rules
@feellnfroggy
4 ай бұрын
@@UncleBogator warhorse sold out to RideNow power sports 2 years ago. They are no longer locally owned. They are corporate now and acting like it.
@UncleBogator
4 ай бұрын
@@feellnfroggy Right. I know it's a sin to like corporate, and I'm not saying I do in all aspects, but they tend to be more consistent, leading to less ambiguity than an owner making up rules as they go. At least in that aspect it may be a plus.
@feellnfroggy
4 ай бұрын
@@UncleBogator it's absolutely not a sin. It is however a death wish if you're not climbing the ladder. 4 new bike sales in a week paid me barely 1k dollars. No salesman makes over 40k a year. I was told, by the math 17 bikes every 2 weeks to be on track for 40k a year. corporate does not and will never care about employees beyond what it takes to keep em quiet and working. And they will never care about the customer beyond what it takes to make money. If I told you why I was no longer with them, it would spin your head.
@gutsbiker
8 ай бұрын
Back in the 70s I was working as a auto mechanic. I owned an old CB450 and did all my service and repairs. The local Honda shop became acquainted with me and offered me a job working on bikes. I told them no way. I love motorcycles and I've learned from working on cars for a living, that what I once loved doing, now I hate. I still work on bikes for myself, family and friends with no pay, and I'm still loving it.
@verlinswarey507
9 ай бұрын
REALLY enjoyed this video! It didn’t come across as negative at all! The people who I think have the best work/life balance are the Amish and Mennonite folks up here in central Pennsylvania. They usually have a pretty early starting time in the morning and work very hard all day long. But they believe that there’s a time to work and there’s a time to go home. At the roofing crew I worked at for several years,nobody ASKED the boss for time off. They simply wrote the days they needed off on a whiteboard and it was accommodated absolutely without question. It was just an accepted part of their culture that they had personal lives and responsibilities outside of work. Sometimes 1 of the young guys needed to take off an hour or two early for a youth function that they wanted to attend in the evening-the whole crew would quit early and we’d drive home from the job site. Questioning their work ethic because they had a life would have been unimaginable! Anyway, “cheers” as they say down under!
@robertlewis3712
9 ай бұрын
When you make your hobby your job, it becomes a job.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Mechanics have crappy cars as they say
@ClovisPoint
6 ай бұрын
you kill the novelty
@stanleybroniszewsky8538
Ай бұрын
True. My career was a Computer Operator. There were companies I dreaded working for and viewed the managers as task masters. Other companies I loved working at so much, I'd take any overtime and also willing to work shifts if someone couldn't make it that day. Those were the positions I put my heart and soul into and loved it absolutely.
@ryrider5733
9 ай бұрын
I worked at a Harley Davidson dealership in central Florida for 12 months and had similar experience. I did the least amount of riding during those 12 months, great video really spoke to me 👍
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Amen man. Cheers
@fireguy8466
8 ай бұрын
You wanna know what’s a worst sales job than working at Harley? Being a recruiter for the Marine Corps
@Joey_McElroy
24 күн бұрын
I can see it… 😂 makes sense 😂😂
@Vinny-t2d
11 күн бұрын
If i may inquire… Why sir? anything besides the radical lefties?
@six.....
9 ай бұрын
That's why I'd never make a job out of something that I truly enjoy
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Thankfully I left so it didn’t get worse
@guidedHandsforge
9 ай бұрын
I won't even commute on my bike. I never want it to become a chore. I used to fish a lot and guys would ask me to join their clubs and tournament fish because I was pretty good. Same thing, I didn't want to turn something fun into, I HAVE to do this. Semper Fi! M M
@Frankfoot986
9 ай бұрын
Fact! So glad I never went to mmi! I ended up doing hvac/r starter 15yrs ago and I still get to enjoy motorcycles vs resenting them
@richardcasey7521
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely great advice.
@Scummy_shovel
8 ай бұрын
And never meet your hero’s.
@fritzk9118
9 ай бұрын
Dude, I was a competitive powerlifter/bodybuilder and loved the whole lifestyle. Becoming a partner in a gym and made it my fulltime job, totally ruined my love for the industry.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
You get it
@dmelson7502
8 ай бұрын
My experience in Harley dealerships is that nobody really wants to talk to you because they possibly see that I can't afford a $30,000 bike. And they are right.
@jeffreyscott4677
8 ай бұрын
I tried to ask some questions about a V Rod after a few sales people had walked right past. The guy I stopped seemed to be annoyed at me for asking a simple question.
@robbieracer3294
5 ай бұрын
No motorcycle with two wheels and a motor should ever, ever cost that much...that's ridiculous lol
@Hendomonster
9 ай бұрын
Like my Grandpappy used to say, "Ya never ask a mailman to go for a walk."
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Got that right
@frankcates3909
9 ай бұрын
I like that one. I'm going to use it. WORD Pictures tell the story short & sweet. .
@ClovisPoint
6 ай бұрын
or ride a Honda Super Cub in his spare time [Australia]
@hyper2monkey2boy
9 ай бұрын
Right there with you man, just stopped selling bikes after 18 months of doing so, the schedule is crushing and the constant reward of good work with more work pushes you to sell more and more as well. I was in a unfortunate position where in my busiest months I was selling 45-55 bikes. and struggling to pay my bills. All while losing my passion to ride. I wish it wasn't the truth, but most motorcycle dealerships just really don't appreciate their staff and would rather have a revolving door then treat people right.+
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
got that right
@quidable3626
9 ай бұрын
They don't seem to want to take care of their customers anymore the past 10 yrs . These multiple stores one owner corporations are loosing their customer base. It is not like the mom and pop operations anymore where you sell the customer what they want not what you want to sell them
@dustinfocke8868
8 ай бұрын
I worked for Harley and Triumph in Cincinnati for just shy of 5 years total between the two and I do miss it at times but honestly I have no idea why I stayed so long. It really drained me everyday. I loved MY motorcycle but hated everyone else’s. Hated talking about them, working on them, looking at them.
@scotty7663
8 ай бұрын
This can happen in any industry, I loved the game of golf growing up so in 1989 I got a job at a country club as a PGA apprentice to become a PGA member. I have since worked and taught at Florida Country Clubs. 33 years later I never want to see golf club ever again. Moral of the story, If you love something don't turn it into your career, it will be ruined for life.
@nickahrens6139
9 ай бұрын
You can be the only mechanic at a dealership. That knows how to work on the earlier bikes 1940 60 60 and they will not pay you a penny more to work on those bikes. A lot of them don't work on them. Anyway, but they're always real happy to say. We work on everything when they don't work on everything. There's one guy in the shop that knows how to work on everything and they don't pay him a penny more. For his knowledge and experience. If they can get you to double dip ( do 2 jobs) and only have to pay one paycheck, they'll do it.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
100%
@heliosdanderflux2037
9 ай бұрын
Retail is retail, it doesn't matter if it's motorcycles or soaps. The hours are relentless.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
I did traditional retail for many years at a few companies. Not really all that similar to dealerships. Just my experience.
@davidrewis3629
9 ай бұрын
Nothing ruins a hobby like making it your job.
@EastboundDwn
9 ай бұрын
Dealerships are nothing but a hustle. Like you said, you have to want to be there and be taken advantage of... glad you made the right choice for yourself.
@murrayhelmer8941
8 ай бұрын
30 years in motorcycle sales. And having to endure several new owners. The best thing that ever happened to me was being let go. I used to love it but working for a spoiled rich kid and his yes men ruined biking for me. 600,000 miles on hundreds of different bikes. I never rode again for 10 years. Pretty sad!! So i hear ya 👍👍
@1941392
8 ай бұрын
600,000 !!!!!
@murrayhelmer8941
8 ай бұрын
@@1941392 Yep I used to put on 100 miles plus a day just commuting to work. Plus touring and a ton of fun riding. Had a lot of really fun times and didn’t have to pay a lot of it myself Was shocked when I started figuring it up No accidents or broken bones from street motocross or ice racing. Maybe I should park it as I’m probably due 🤣But dammit I love it 🙂
@bluesriderDF
8 ай бұрын
I worked in sales for 1 year, over 35 yrs ago, hated it, and said never again. That was at a retail computer store, yet was so similar to what you described. I have friends who are incredible sales people, I definitely give props to anyone who can succeed at that. Not me! I enjoy stopping in a dealership for a look around, but I do feel sorry for the sales staff. I get PTSD 😮 just thinking about it.
@pinkiewerewolf
8 ай бұрын
I just found your channel and the title hooked me into watching. I've been retired for about a year and a half, I was a firefighter, injured then worked other jobs. A few years ago my local Harley dealership asked me if I wanted a job. I bought some bikes from them and I like to talk bikes, they picked up on that I guess. If it had been a few years earlier I'd have jumped on it because of my love for motorcycles. But, I remembered what others had told me about working in dealerships and never having a chance to ride so I turned them down. Plus I knew I was close to that retirement date. At the end, you mentioned some hourly positions. If a dealer offered me part time grunt work, like three days a week to clean up, detail bikes, etc... then yeah, I'd go for that. I miss camaraderie.
@Onewholovesrock
9 ай бұрын
I told you this before. I’ll say it again. Figure out your own small business. Even if it starts as a side hustle. Work for yourself. Not a company that tells when you gotta work and how many days of vacation you can have. It’s easier than you think. Though it’s not easy. It looks like you have a good head on your shoulders. Why keep giving away your freedom to a shitt job that couldn’t care less about you in the end. Take care!
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
News coming soon my man
@elithegreat6463
9 ай бұрын
Most Dealers here in NJ of all brands, it's a thing to be closed on Sunday/Monday. However, I do know what you mean about dealing with Bikes all the time, you don't want to be around them. However, not working in this industry, the best places I can spen hours in are Bike Dealers, and Gun shops..I as the customer, love these places. Goos Luck man, Good video.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Yeah man as a customer I loved hanging out there
@CleanStreakPressureWashing
7 ай бұрын
Anyone who has ever worked at a dealership, especially here in Florida, shares your frustration with the experience.
@frankcates3909
9 ай бұрын
Did you just ignite a Fire under me?! I worked for an insurance co., 20 years for a national/international company and had similar experience of being tossed around like a football. Not the first 10 years, but it got more & more stressful each & every year after that. You hit the nail on the head about balance in the work week in order for one to have sufficient family time. Did I earn a decent paycheck? Yes, but the added pressure, continuously, w/o letup was too much. It got to the point that I decided to 'retire' from that well paying job. I was encouraged to 'stay on a little longer' because it'll be better. NO it was not ever going to get better at that place given their push, push, push policy. I was not in sales, but I was a licensed appraiser. So even in other work descriptions, different from sales, there is that constant drum beat of this: "What you did last year was fine or even Good, but you'll have to do better this year, or you're not keeping up, not meeting expectations. So I retired. One could say I quit. By the time my annual medical physical exam came due my doctor said: "What's changed, you seem more relaxed". I briefly described my ordeal & how I remedied it by 'retiring'. I didn't wind up with a whole lot of money at retirement, but I don't have an ulcer now. I should have found other work years before I left that job, but that's hindsight. My advice for anyone who's listening: If you boss or your company does not respect your need for a balanced workweek in order to preserve a wholesome family life, then it's hi-time to leave that place. Some employees will believe the promise that things will get better if you stay on. OK, give them a week or 2 weeks, or even a month. But you're likely to find they're just leading you on with empty promises. That's Just My Experience and I had to express it. .
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Yeah sounds like you made the right call
@wonkster1970
9 ай бұрын
My first job at 15 was working as a small engine mechanic for a local small business. I didn't make much, but i loved my job. After high school graduation, I decided to work for Sears as a field service technician. The pay was great. I also worked with some great people. I enjoyed the challenge for a while. Eventually, what I loved to do turned into feeling more like a job that was not appreciated. I left that job and went to work for another small business for years after that. It was great for a long time. I eventually got burnt out. I worked for a corporation again for more pay. That did not last long either. Long story, but i eventually switched gears and became a computer technician. I now work for the local government. I do not love my job, but i do not dread going into work either. Retail work is tough. Thanks for the video.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
cheers my man. sounds like you get it
@amygardiner2278
8 ай бұрын
This scenario, with slight variations, is all too common in America's workplaces today. Human beings are treated like business machines or other company equipment to be used as long as they produce pofit, then discarded when they are too sick and/or exhausted to meet the company's impossible demands--with no pension or severance package forthcoming.. Thanks for telling your story and very sorry for your experience with that employer. Best wishes for your channel and other positive endeavors moving forward!
@dm-pf3ht
9 ай бұрын
Yup, I feel you - not just about selling bikes... used to sell preowned cars - lot's more to deal with than one would originally think.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Bingo
@Arizona_rider
9 ай бұрын
You love to RIDE motorcycles. You don’t get paid to RIDE. If you love to SELL and TALK then I would want to BUY a motorcycle from ya. If I want to TALK to a fellow motorcyclist I will go to a club
@cornicheii2413
9 ай бұрын
Harley sucks, they just want to ripp off their employees AND their customers. They are just greedy. I am a Harley buyer since 1976, have several Harleys, but bought a few weeks ago an INDIAN!
@wingingit9493
9 ай бұрын
Dealership life does suck. I've been a silent partner in a couple of dealer ventures. And there is no part of it good. Never has been,,, never will be. Does not matter if your a owner, admin, manager, sales, marketing, inventory, parts, tech. Just does not matter. It grinds you up. There is a lot of money flowing around but not much of it sticks in anyone persons pocket. And there is not as much margin in it as people think. And everybody except the true master techs have two if not three hats to wear at some point. The larger the dealer the worse it gets. And it's just not Harley,,, it is all of them! In the early 1990's there was a shift in the industry. I saw that change and it went from good,, last of the old school ways and games to the new college boy BS model. And it's not been good from the owners down. It's a really hard game to play now days. Glad I'm retired. I would never get back into the dealer game. And I would never suggest young emthusitest to ever get in the business. It can and will kill your passion. Glad you got out clean!
@DennysPlantBasedJourney
9 ай бұрын
no way I'd work for a company that wouldn't allow me weekends or more PTO than that... if they want me to be that engaged that the dealership is my life, then they need to give me a piece of the profits, big bonuses, and a very large salary. I wouldn't put up with that.
@curtisssmith5204
9 ай бұрын
You have to remember corporate management only cares about profits for their shareholders and owners. You, as a frontline employee, are just a tool to to be used and tossed away. Corporate bought politicians operate on this same mindset. Despite what comes out of their mouths, they don’t care about you. America has really turned into a cesspool of greed. The funny thing is, they need you. Whether it’s your skills or your vote. Things will only change if the masses wake up and learn this. America is a service oriented society since manufactures are able to exploit labor in poor under developed countries.
@jsagazio
Ай бұрын
Please continue to work because millions of others that refuse to work are counting on you. Best of luck to you and your family.
@davidfalgout7304
8 ай бұрын
Same here Plus when I found out the engineering was sub standard... I moved on! I prefer to ride and not have to worry about so many issues with quality. And I have no desire to pretend to be a pirate! LOL
@noidreculse8906
8 ай бұрын
I worked at my local dealership as a porter in the back. I would bring bikes and parts to the techs to be worked on. The building was 2 stories with storage on the second floor, which was connected by a ramp. We had 10 service techs, and none of them wanted any down time. I was practically running to try and keep up. Each day I recorded on my phone 16,000 steps, 4-6 miles and 18 floors all indoors. At night I soaked my feet. I never want to touch a bagger again, such overweight pigs 🐷
@bikedude833
8 ай бұрын
Working for 8 years with an auto dealership, I can agree with everything you say. It’s sad that balance is so hard to find in sales because the rewards monetarily can be good. Kudos on a great video!
@HarryNoze
8 ай бұрын
I loved women til I got married. Than I couldn’t stand to look at them.
@jimheil-dr7xk
8 ай бұрын
i did service at a hon,kaw,yam,suz,pol...(everything)shop. after dealing with the service managers, owner and customers daily, i was so sick of bikes for a while. i didnt even plate my Harley the last year i did it. out of 8 people in service, only 2 of us even owned a bike.. after 13 years, it was time for a job change and to reclaim my hobby.
@hankholland1854
9 ай бұрын
Nice video. It gives me as a customer a better insight as to what’s going on behind the scenes. You’re right about the Sunday Monday thing. I always wondered why some dealerships don’t try closing on Tuesday Wednesday and open the full weekend so as to offset the other dealers being closed. Keep up the great work.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Thanks man. Mondays at our dealership were dead as nails. But we had some sales so I guess it was worth keeping open.
@MotorcycleRideVideo
9 ай бұрын
"Sunday-Monday" was because in many states, like Texas, you have blue laws. Which means you have to be closed one day a weekend. Since many people attend church on Sunday and races normally happen on Sundays that was what all chose to close on. By attaching Monday (usually a slow day anyways) you got a two day weekend. Hence "Sunday-Monday" closed standard.
@Barmatthew
9 ай бұрын
Mike I totally agree as to the expectations at any dealership. Worked at Harley in Illinois and now for a car dealership and ownership and management tends to have the same beliefs that your life needs to revolve around your dealership.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Nailed it
@alexwilsonpottery3733
9 ай бұрын
Uh, that’s just work. All workplaces are the same, but some jobs pay more for your time, which makes your time away from work more fulfilling.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
@@alexwilsonpottery3733 absolutely not correct man. I’ve never worked for an organization like that until this one. Many jobs in the last 34 years.
@CornishMotorcycleDiaries
9 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear of your bad experience. That is of course how it goes in sales. Pressure, Pressure to make the numbers. However, the not allowing you some leeway comes straight down from the top. And that is Burt himself, so he needs to accept some blame for allowing a guy with talent to get away.
@mushroomcloud1
5 ай бұрын
Motorcycle dealers used to be owned by motorcyclists.. Now many of them, if not most, are corporate type owners. Some Harley dealers are even owned by people who also own car dealerships. This is why they are as disliked as car dealers . You also have a German shoe company executive as CEO of Harley... WTF right? I genuinely hate the dealership experience now. Not just Harley, but all the bike brands. But Harley seems to be a bit worse. Nothing like bike dealers 40 years ago. Add the fact that I have always had more nickel and dime issues with my Harley's than my Japanese bikes and the prices. I doubt I will ever buy another new one.
@UncleBogator
5 ай бұрын
I’m glad you pointed out all bike brands. I hear bad things about “Harley dealers” all the time. I’m like look, a salesman is a salesman. It’s a mentality. You don’t work for Honda and all of a sudden angel wings sprout from your back.
@tommyjusz
9 ай бұрын
I like the transparency. Thanks for your honesty, Merry Christmas!
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
thanks my man
@markmaese1599
9 ай бұрын
I have a very similar story but not about selling bikes. It was about trying to manage 2, sometimes 3 jobs , under one roof. The expectation for each is the same as it was for the employees only doing one job. I have to agree with you on not only does it wipe you completely out but also you start to dislike what you do.
@PotatoeJoe69
8 ай бұрын
I get it wholeheartedly. I grew up as a kid and young man that loved hot rodding and modifying everything and anything with an engine. Lawnmower? I bet I can squeeze a few more horsepower out of it, make it cut grass a little faster.. that eventually led to me becoming a mechanic at a Chevy dealership. It made me hate my passion. It made me hate working on cars. It drained all the joy out of taking an old Chrysler 318 V8 from a 200hp brick, to a 500hp drag motor. I just didn't want to do it anymore. Spending the whole day fixing people's junk, made the passion into work, and work ain't fun - work is work.
@UncleBogator
8 ай бұрын
i think mechanics are the most classic example of what you described man.
@pennsyltuckyden9823
9 ай бұрын
Every time I go to the dealership to get my oil changed it always seems like there's a lot of down time with salesmen standing around bullshittin
@feellnfroggy
4 ай бұрын
Agreed, warhorse in Ocala is now owned by RideNow and corporate has completely screwed my hometown dealership. They are trying to make it a volume dealer and it’s horrible.
@UncleBogator
4 ай бұрын
I noticed they were owned by ridenow a few months ago. I honestly wonder what’s better
@ldubb9621
9 ай бұрын
I must admit, it was very disappointing hearing how Harley dealerships are treating their employees. As much as they charge for these bikes, they should definitely share the wealth with those selling them. I appreciate your respectful description of your experience, hope that your passion for Motorcycling returns.
@kennethsouthard6042
8 ай бұрын
I don't think that there's as much wealth as you think there is given that every one of these Harley dealerships is like a mini Disneyland that costs money. Not to mention millennials aren't really interested in Harleys and you also have an economic slowdown.
@ldubb9621
8 ай бұрын
@kennethsouthard6042 Respectfully, the markups and sir charges that are being added to these bikes by dealers are crazy. They give you ridiculous prices for trading and selling your bike and they make a profit on parts and Merchandise. Not to mention the financing they offer. I'm sure they could share the wealth if they wanted.
@murrayhelmer8941
8 ай бұрын
Not just harley dealerships. All bike dealerships
@Cwra1smith
8 ай бұрын
The overhead at a dealership will gag a maggot. I've worked at both a Ford and a Subaru Dealership. Sales has always been a numbers game and when you're hot you're hot and when you're not you've got 60 days to get hot or adios'. The family run Harley shop I bought my RGS from finally sold out and I heard that Harley was cutting out some of the smaller dealers. Gues what, the dealership is now closed on Mondays. WHAT?@@ldubb9621
@scottkaercher1733
9 ай бұрын
I worked for a harley dealership fixing and working on bikes. 12 to 14 hours a day 7 days a week i got to the point i didn't want to pick a wrench up or ride my bike anymore. The pressure that's put on ya everyday to fix a certain number of bikes a day wears ya out. I was young and hungry and hyper and harley knocked all that out of me. I haven't for harley for years now and i still have people come and find me cause they loved the work i did on their bikes and they ask if i would fix theirs and once in a while i will but most of the time i tell them no and take their bikes to the harley dealership. People tell me the dealership where i live is over charging them and the mechanics keep their bikes longer than what was the estimate and they try to charge them for keeping their bikes longer and that is being taken advantage of and its not right. I loved doing road trips on my bike and to this day i still don't ride much. I seen you on shadetree's youtube channel.
@bldrv7522
9 ай бұрын
You nailed exactly what it’s like to work in an HD dealership. I did it in Central Florida for awhile. Got to ride to and from work but that was about it. Never two consecutive days off. “Discounted” tee shirts on the ones that sold poorly (in case you wanted to wear the RUB “uniform of the day” when you weren’t working).
@ramonburgos6351
9 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed at the H-D dealership where I bought my bikes was that year after year the salespeople changed. I never really saw the same folks selling bikes. If I was going to trade in and asked for the last person who sold me a bike, they had already moved on to something else, sometimes to a completely different industry like construction. Vehicle sales is a high-turnover industry and that has to be horrible as a career. There were only a few people at the store who did not change: Parts counter, merch, and finance. One of the salespeople even told me that the mechanics also came and went. There must be something to mechanics turning over that you may cover in another video.
@itsgoingdown1974
9 ай бұрын
Techs don’t make much of anything the first 2-3 years. They are only allowed to do certain work until they achieve certain HD experience levels and in person training in Milwaukee. Makes it really tough on a Tech that spends 2 years in Orlando or Phoenix, trying to pay for school and a place to live, only to make less than $20 an hour the first couple of years. As a tech, you only make real money once you get to flat rate pay and that usually only happens after 3-4 years (depending on skill level of course).
@2WheelsNcoffee
9 ай бұрын
Sales jobs SUUUUUUUCK. I've done some sales jobs over the phone too.... and that sucks in a similar way to what you're describing. The last thing I would want to do after getting off of work was to get on the phone and talk to friends or family. This dislike of being on the phone has continued far after being on the phones (as a primary duty) was not in my job description. To this day I will not reach out to someone with a phone call if I can avoid it, the PTSD (Phone Traumatic Stress Disorder) is real after working for over a decade in call centers.
@BMetal75
9 ай бұрын
I worked for a Harley dealership and the turnover rate for employees was incredoble. You were loved long as you sold but let you go like trash.... I was top salesperson for 2 weeks straight which was big deal for me having no experience and only been there for 3 months. The longer your there the more favortism you see.... I got tired of selling people their "dream" bike and then they finance the bike for DOUBLE THE PRICE. . So 2021 Sportser was priced at $9,999....buyers contract says $21,000..... crooks.......
@TheBadgers
9 ай бұрын
One the worst jobs I have ever had although it did lead to the life I currently lead. I still have great friends still at the dealership, and love stopping in to see them from time to time
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Completely feel that. Great people there. Just not my environment
@markwhitney9175
9 ай бұрын
My wife and I walked into an HD dealer to buy a T-shirt for a present and we didn’t make it 10ft before a salesman grabbed us. I told him I already have two and just gonna grab a shirt so he starts on my wife. I told him to pound sand and we split without the shirt. And now the cold calls/texts have started lol 😂 They’re a total PITA!
@danielscarelli6163
9 ай бұрын
Your video shines a little light on why you can’t even get through the front door at a Harley dealership without five salesmen immediately approaching you. It’s brutal! I don’t even want to stop in and shop for anything. I am actually looking into other manufacturers for my next bike purchase just because I hate the HD atmosphere.
@Vinny-t2d
11 күн бұрын
I’m 19 years into a 6 + a day a week business. I own a music store and I really understand. I went from Christmas every day opening new Gibsons to F Christmas! lol. And if I do go anywhere on Saturday nite, everyone is trying to get me to play. I bet if they welded all week they wouldn’t want a welding helmet and a box of rods on Saturday nite? Passion Crushed”? Not quite completely yet but dangerously close….
@davidnorris5675
9 ай бұрын
That’s why I stopped being a gigolo
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Alright
@Vipersshorts
5 ай бұрын
Graduated 🎓 Motorcycle Mechanics Institute Late/Early Model Harley Davidson, Hondatech24 Graduated 🎓 Universal Technical Institute Automotive Technology 2 Tucson harley davidson dealership sucks
@fredmore8788
9 ай бұрын
My local HD dealer appears to have a huge employee turnover problem...the dealer is not able to hold on to their good employees and their services tend to suffer because when employees are asked questions they never seem to have the correct answer. Now, in regards to your dealer it appears they had no idea how inventory worked because I have worked with inventory and I have never been able to finish in less than 1/2 day, even with only 40 of 50 items needing to be restocked and recorded. In addition, to inventory responsibilities I had to be responding to parts phone calls (and that was all day long), therefore, sometimes inventory took me more than 1/2 day. Inventory is a busy business and it has to be done carefully and always ensuring you store the part in the right location, record it in the right location with the exact number of the same parts on that location. All has to be exact so we know at any time where the part is, how many are in stock and how many have been sold or issued. In a nutshell, inventory normally is not a 2 or 3 hours job.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
Bingo man
@DanGilman
Ай бұрын
I sold bikes for a local motorcycle shop in Texas for a few months, and they did the exact same thing, I went from sales only, to meeting with parts dealers, to "hey sweep the floor, install tenders and swap them throughout, and move the bikes out every morning, and in at night. HEY, WHY AREN'T YOU MAKING SALES!?" Protip, if you're in the industry and facing this exact same issue, the correct answer probably IS NOT "MF it's 115F outside and I've been doing all these other things, I smell like a fishmonger and look like I just got molested by Oscar the Grouch!" but it worked for me, never been happier being fired before, and yes, working in a pizza parlor will make you hate pizza, after a while it's a burden and product.
@dracphelan
9 ай бұрын
You are describing why I am so glad to no longer be working retail and will never work sales. And, the PTO policy is ridiculous at where you worked.
@bobberguy1
9 ай бұрын
Work was interfering with my riding. I sat down with pen and paper and realized what I would be paid to NOT show up. I retired and ride almost daily.
@noidreculse8906
8 ай бұрын
I worked for a short period at my local Harley dealership, back in the service area as a porter. What goes on “behind the wall” and what the customer sees in the showroom is totally different. Plus worked every Saturday, cut into riding. A great tech is indispensable, but everyone else was disposable. Motor clothes girls were encouraged to wear low cut tops and tight jeans to push overpriced clothing.
@rodzimmerman1979
9 ай бұрын
I had a couple of girlfriends who worked at Safeway grocery stores who got the weekly schedule on Friday nights at 6pm. so they never knew if they would get a weekend day off and could not plan anything. Mostly split days off too but on rare occasion they would get two off in a row but never on a weekend. The benefits were non existent with no paid vacation and very limited matching retirement. I have an acquaintance that works at a Kroger and has for over twenty years who just retired and shocked me when she told me she is getting 600.00 a month for her pension so things don't sound like they are getting any better.
@tedroman5506
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been there done that. Best you brother.
@Accurize2
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like the management of that dealership were a bunch of oblivious dumbasses. Taking a new potential top seller off the sales floor is asinine. Having only 5 days of PTO is crazy too. Creating a burned out and bitter worker in 9 months takes a special type of level of mismanagement.
@UncleBogator
8 ай бұрын
yep
@VintageTeak
20 күн бұрын
Most people spend most of their adult life making other people money. Learn how to make money for yourself. That will likely mean you'll have to spend time learning a skill set, a trade, or provide a service, well enough until you can get to the point in your life where you can go off and sign the front of the pay check, not just the back of the pay check.
@jiml5233
8 ай бұрын
A friendly word of unsolicited advice from someone who's spent years in the wrong positions. When you get up in the morning and put your feet on the floor, if you're asking yourself how your going to make it through another day in that shit hole place. You know it's time to go, NOW! the longer you compromise yourself, the harder it is to leave.
@HooahArmyMan
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your sharing your experiences. Your shared reality will help people that are considering this lifestyle to go into it eyes wide open. It also explains the revolving door at many dealerships. I always thought it was the management at the dealerships, but I realize now that it's the old mindset this is how we've done it for the past X years and this is how we will continue to do it, and if you don't like it, there are 200 people behind you waiting for the job, so get to work or leave. Kind of work like a Soldier, but a Soldier is under a contract and doesn't have the option to quit! Again, thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you find a management position or even start your own company some day.
@Skidz75
9 ай бұрын
I got into healthcare 24 years ago. (Going on 25.) LOTS of turnover with HC. Even I admit I moved to TX in 2014 and have worked for 3-4 different organizations until I found a spot where I fit. Glad you didn’t lose this passion altogether! Keep up the content my friend.. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! God bless!
@DanielKulka
4 ай бұрын
Your right on! Never stay with a company that doesn't care about you. I've dragged up a plenty of times because of safety issues or a Ahole boss! Prode of my grandson whom graduated from a line man school. Got a job right away but was treated badly. He told HR and was told that foreman was like that. That company will never keep qualified workers. Glad my grandson told them to F off.
@DaveCorning-m4v
4 ай бұрын
I've worked in the restaurant industry my whole life. Most places you get 3 sick days and 5 vacation days a year. Worked 2 full time jobs for years. I had all the toys, but suddenly realized I had no time to enjoy them. Hahaha!!! You either have money & no time, or time & no money. It's the way of the world 😢
@rocco8222
8 ай бұрын
Interesting perspective, ironically I watched this video, then your video titled working at harley davidson, what it's really like. Your take on the modern working world is spot on.
@UncleBogator
8 ай бұрын
I recorded the work day during a time when I was still enjoying it. Definitely a shift
@PierrePagé-s6z
4 ай бұрын
Could you have had your family and/or friends over a weekend and hangout, tailgate bbq in the parking lot, etc...? I would have tried anyway, if just for the chance of having a manager come up to me and comment, and I would have let out on him and give them what for. They want to play that game, well... Play Ball! lol
@AdrianRP1
9 ай бұрын
Many opinions, but I will streamline. A close buddy worked at a huge HD dealer in the far north Chicago burbs. He was their aftermarket/customizing guy. Knew his trade well. Commonly wrote close to a million dollars in custom biz. He grossed 35k a year, and worked every weekend. Did this for awhile. Lmao. F*** H fing D! Never owned one, never will. Too bad as their cool bikes...I despise the 'fan boy' culture...the posing newbies ..the culture that says their more than a motorcycle..
@stingray44130
5 ай бұрын
Harley made the biggest mistake when they started letting automobile dealerships on 567 Harley Davidson dealerships the family experience is gone. You’re just a fucking number to them no service no compassion. Harley says no we ain’t taking care of it. It ain’t getting taken care . Whether it should be or not look at all the bad motors for 17 18, 1920 figured it out but do they give anything to the people they got screwed with the oil something the oil transfer no I got bad transmission and well known Harley never buy another Harley. I’ll buy a shovel. I enjoyed those bikes.
@thelost_woods
9 ай бұрын
I could never spend more than 30 minutes at a dealership. Blaring "I Stand Alone" by Godsmack at an obnoxious volume on a Tuesday at 9am to an empty store would make make my skin crawl.
@Axeman12171
3 ай бұрын
That HD dealership is ownrd by a guy who owns SEVERAL car dealerships and they just adapted all the car crap to the HD I go to the same dealership you were talking about well, i use to lol Im switching to Jims
@ianbrooker2389
9 ай бұрын
You keep saying you worked for Harley Davidson, but you didn’t. You worked for a privately owned dealership and while the management may have seemed ok to you, and they probably followed business/sales techniques as guided/dictated by Harley Davidson ,the ultimate responsibility for staff pay/welfare including holiday allowances was the OWNER of the dealership. Now I can understand why you feel you don’t want to put down the actual dealership you worked for because it may employ some very good people there, I myself worked in a Yamaha then a Honda dealership many years ago here in the UK when they were owned by actual motorcycle enthusiasts and not business men disguised as enthusiasts. My honest opinion is nowadays far too many big motorcycle dealerships are owned by business people employing staff who could be selling you white goods or any other manner of stuff for profit, but motorcycles are bought generally nowadays by enthusiasts like myself who would RATHER buy from a dealership owned and staffed by someone with genuine appreciation for the trade.
@ZeroKitsunei
8 ай бұрын
I work parts in a Big 4 dealer, and it's been kinda been soul crushing at times. Most of the time it's cool. The vacation is kinda lame. So you have a sales quota, that you have to meet. If you take any vacation time, yes you get paid your PTO, but it doesn't add any money to your goal. So let's say you take a week off. When you come back, you have a week to make that goal. Or you get a talking to. So I've only ever taken 1 day or a full 2 weeks. I've seen coworkers sit there and stress and struggle to hit goal after a week off. It's not quite as crazy as unit sales, but you also make a lot less. I hear sales guys brag about how they are taking home $6k pay checks. While i'm lucky to get $1500, maybe $2k in months like Dec.
@alexwilsonpottery3733
9 ай бұрын
Reading through the comments, it’s like no-one commenting was born and has lived in corporate-controlled America all their lives. I’m from Britain, and was well-shocked finding out what I’d given up in moving to the States (married an American) - 5 weeks paid vacation for starters, and a quality of life most Americans can’t even comprehend. Oh well, oh hell I guess. Never made enough money here to be able to move back, and now I’m too old to start again anyway, shit.
@therealrobertbirchall
9 ай бұрын
You need a union, bro.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of unions my man. I’ve been on both sides of them in the past and I don’t believe they actually do what they claim.
@therealrobertbirchall
9 ай бұрын
@UncleBogator always found them to be a winner, no one makes you 2 jobs for the price of one.
@dcm0712
Ай бұрын
I just purchased a new road glide I made it easy for my sales guy knew I wanted a bike was just debating between RG and SG. I can see your point and understand why you feel that way.
@Bill0167
3 ай бұрын
Work life balance is a necessity for happy employees. I would walk away from that job simply based on losing time with my girls.
@Bill0167
3 ай бұрын
Work life balance is a necessity for happy employees. I would walk away from that job simply based on losing time with my girls.
@mikeprince6045
9 ай бұрын
Not negative her brother…. Sold everything from airplanes to boats to cars to stereos…… it is the same ole song……. Matters where you go ….. work hard so the boss can get rich… dont like it??? We will find some other fool…. Never could feed my family untill i walked the plank😢 and started selling my own stuff….. then i made the lions share of the money…. The pressure didnt change but the money did…… so this is ment to be a word to the wise… you wanna be just the mule dragging the cart? Or be the cart and drag it to the money…. Thats an easy choice as i see it
@796andy2
5 ай бұрын
Old ami grad here , dealerships suck , some indy shops were kinda cool . I was a condition report writer for an auction place , that was great fun but no $$ (ride 50 diff bikes a day)
@artisaprimus6306
9 ай бұрын
Ant sales position whether its cars, motorcycles, RVs can relate. The dealership expects you to work every weekend and put in alot of hours. The constant pressure to just make a living can make you hate the job. No thanks
@funkingfuss9724
8 ай бұрын
Dude, It's not just HD. It's the same no matter who you work for. In Florida as a Right to work State it's up to the Individual to work out their own agreement with the employer. Sorry you didn't, most people don't.
@stevecox8066
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely NOT a negative video brother. Nice look under the hood at realities. I was in military same as you and those 30 days of leave just isn't a thing in the corporate world 😢
@joemetzger1362
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been in construction my entire life and it’s the same thing. I think Canada has a better balance between work and time off. I have always said this country had no moderation between work and play. I had a foot injury many years ago and after 6 weeks off it felt good to get back to work. Not enough balance in my opinion.
@Hardsend
7 ай бұрын
I under stand working the two job part i recently started working in my girlfriends family business and I’m lucky it’s Funtime 5 hours mon-fri but I own a lawn care business that I take care of after hours and I was so burnt out I don’t even won’t to look at my bike and on the weekends although i wanted to ride I was too tired and sore.
@thomasmallow9310
8 ай бұрын
Totally understand where you are coming from! Two days off a week that are split? Five days of leave a year? I would have walked too! If employers aren’t going to take care of their employees they aren’t going to keep good talent! Their loss!
@Michael-st1hl
9 ай бұрын
I used to be a mechanic at a motorcycle dealership, like most jobs it’s not the work that is difficult but the back stabbing of insecure people I had to work on all these jobs. Long story short, I bought a motorcycle at an employee discount and built it out of the crate on my lunch hour. The dealer manager asked me how come I don’t work that fast on customers bikes? I had a few words with the moron, packed my tools and left. The next few days I spent packing my new motorcycle for a solo trip from Chicago to the Florida keys and soaking up the beaches along the east coast for the next three months having an incredible time touring my new bike. It was my way of not mixing my passion for motorcycles and the low life dealer employees I was stuck working with at the time. I decided it was margarita time! Drink in my hand toes in the sand! lol. I’m 69 now and still loving wrenching, building and riding my three motorcycles. All vintage Harleys. I ended up being a precision machinist and working with our engineering department flying all over the country and Asia and eventually moving to Bali to start a business. Long story short, I never looked at motorcycle dealerships as real Jobs anyway…. Unless YOUR the owner.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
That’s the way to do it man
@dennisharrison4744
6 ай бұрын
Ever time I go the dealership like got the $$$$$ vib going even parts department got the presure going I don't like it I found a way around parts I got place I order now sales man try to sale me one I say your barking up the wrong tree lol
@MorrisandMaryGorko-ym8hp
9 ай бұрын
My experience with Harley dealerships is negative. I think he is correct that any dealership sucks. Wouldn't go near there for a job ever
@TheManoy66
9 ай бұрын
I used to work at a dealership before and i did some side selling gigs. But after 10 years of doing the same thing over and over plus dealing with office culture got old. I considered the pandemic as a blessing in disguise because it got me thinking about a lot of things. I moved out of that job, started working for my old man, we opened a motorcycle shop and i got to be my own boss. But the best part is i get to spend more time with my family. Best decision so far.
@UncleBogator
9 ай бұрын
hell yeah love that man
@nickmcclellan9623
8 ай бұрын
@TheManoy66 Where is your shop? I am looking for some custom parts parts for my Street Bob.
@JR-bj3uf
8 ай бұрын
I get it. I worked for an H-D dealer on a non-sales role. Wearing the Bar and Shield is really cool but H-D burns out their employees.
@JohnSmith-sj2dk
8 ай бұрын
Elec engineer, used to love tinkering with electronics and problem solving, until it became my job...
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