to swap out the jaw position just remove the caphead bolts and place jaws on the back sides of vice body where the second set of threads are.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hiya, yup I see it now thanks. Sometimes I can get on the wrong track .......... 😁
@MyLilMule
7 ай бұрын
Well, you know how much I love reviews, especially Vevor. 🙄😂 I would like to pass on two pieces of feedback. 1) I've never seen anyone, on a regular basis, mount a vice left and right on the milling table. I suppose that the rotating base would come in handy to mitigate the hold down problem, but then of course you lose Z axis height. 2) It's the jaw faces that are removed and turned around, not the physical jaw itself. Just the faces using the two socket head cap screws in each one. Cheers - Greg
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Greg, good of you to watch the review all the same because your comments have helped me. It's my inexperience perhaps but I always cut towards the fixed jaw if I can to avoid any chance of the work slipping. And yes about swap-ending the jaws, well yes it's obvious now you say it 😒🤣. I went for the first idea that came into my head as I saw it - not the right one unfortunately. But at least it gave people the chance to see the underside of the sliding jaw. All the best, Paul
@Watchyn_Yarwood
7 ай бұрын
One of the best observations of Vevor products is on Mitthias Wandel's Woodgrears channel, video entitled Why all the hate for Vevor? I encourage all to take a listen.
@bobvines00
3 ай бұрын
@@Watchyn_Yarwood Yes, like Stephan Gotteswinter says, the "import" equipment is really a kit of parts that you modify until you get the accuracy that you need!
@darrendean21
7 ай бұрын
Good video as usual ... but you don't turn the jaws, you unbolt them with the two bolts each and fit them to the other end .. Hope that helps. I have one and find it to be a good usable vice with quite a secure grip on your parts. I'm not sure why you'd want to mount it longitudinal? Can't say I've ever needed too. Just mount it with the handle facing you.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Darren, thanks for the advice. It may seem strange but I've never done much with large vices so I've had to go through the learning loop. I habitually have, in the past, had the vice along the table so I can machine towards the fixed jaw for greater security. Cheers
@marklester7034
7 ай бұрын
I enjoy your channel! I appreciate the variety your content and have learned a lot from your work. I’m a home shop, self-taught want-to-be machinist. Thank you for what you do. Mark
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Very kind of you to say so Mark. I just enjoy the hobby and the videos just flow from whatever I'm doing. Just a window into my workshop - regardless of success or failure. You watch as I learn. Cheers
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
7 ай бұрын
Another honest review Paul. Most of those vices are mounted for-and-aft…. Hence the hold down and drainage configurations. One advantage of vices (like that Vevor) that have keyed-on fixed jaws, is that the base can easily be ground ( or scraped) for parallel. I bought a 4” Vevor CNC-style vice, and it’s good quality ( apart from needing de-burring)… for the money. Robert
@chrisarmstrong8198
7 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same thing - milling vices are usually mounted with the jaw faces parallel to the X-axis.
@Watchyn_Yarwood
7 ай бұрын
One of the best observations of Vevor products is on Mitthias Wandel's Woodgrears channel, video entitled Why all the hate for Vevor? I encourage all to take a listen.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, I've always tried to setup with the machining force pushing against the fixed jaw so that was why I was talking about setting the vice lengthways along the table. But I see now that is not generally a problem if the vice has enough clamping pressure. Cheers.
@davidberlanny3308
7 ай бұрын
Mornin' Paul, A good honest review and very well presented with the cardboard cutouts showing the alternative sizes. I'm really pleased that you are able to fit out your workshop in this way and it works well in the mix of video content that you publish. Well done!! Have a great weekend!!
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi David, I've been trying to get a certain thing for a while and nagging Vevor for it but they don't sell enough of the one I want ..... I may have to buy it myself with the 5% discount code. 😒🙄
@tyreynolds4556
7 ай бұрын
I bought the exact same vice as this, All i can say is that i think it was built at 5pm on a Friday. If it wasn't so heavy, i would have sent it back. The "tramming lugs" didn't even fit in the slots on the vice! It looks like it was machined with a slight skew, but the lugs were too big anyway. I was expecting some sharp edges, and it did not disappoint (easy fix though). The tops of the jaws are not parallel, so i need to spend a bit of time with my surface grinder to sort out. I really wish they would have put a grease nipple in the body where the screw goes through it, and thrust washer to make it easier to tighten. At the end of the day, it's a cheap vice and it's holding the work, so for the price, its ok . Maybe if they tightened up on the quality control and added a tenner, it would be great. *just to be clear, i have no hate for Vevor and have bought a ton of stuff from them (including lifting gear and dividing head), and will continue to do so. I wish they still sold electrical stuff in the Uk as had a couple of VFD's and they were good.
@Watchyn_Yarwood
7 ай бұрын
One of the best observations of Vevor products is on Mitthias Wandel's Woodgrears channel, video entitled Why all the hate for Vevor? I encourage all to take a listen.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi tyreynolds, I will look at putting in an oiler and a thrust washer as you suggest. My friend has both 3in and a 4in Vevor milling vices and they have oilers so I don't know why they were dropped. Electrical products - yes I want an ultrasonic cleaner and a parts washer but Vevor can't currently supply in UK. 😒 Cheers
@RB-yq7qv
7 ай бұрын
I would buy the 4 inch and 6 as this many dollars cheaper then one known brand vice. I'm not chasing to the 4th digit if I hit 2 I'm very pleased. From the several reviews these vises will do this or better. Anther point I hate paying for a brand name to say look at me money is better in my pocket to buy something else.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi RB, I think some big brands do represent quality but others don't especially as there is more and more 'badge engineering' these days, i.e. putting your sticker on somebody else's cheap product. But big brands that do sticker engineering without some other value-add (like great customer service) are just lining themselves up to go out of business sooner or later. Cheers
@TheRecreationalMachinist
7 ай бұрын
My vice is the same pattern only smaller, and from a different supplier. It's great value and is sufficiently accurate for my needs. Compared to my previous (similarly low cost) vice, the wedge action on the movable jaw greatly improves the tendency to lift the work when tightening up. Swapping the jaws can be a lifesaver, though the grip isn't as solid as everything is in tension rather than compression. I've found it particularly useful for coordinate drilling parts that would otherwise need clamping to the table (and all the hassle that can bring). Cheers, Matt 👍
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Matt, thanks. I forgot to mention another disadvantage with the Indian vice with 'ways and gibs' is that tendency for the jaws to rise up when clamped. The pull-down action on the Vevor vice should be a lot better. Cheers
@StuartsShed
7 ай бұрын
Great, thorough and detailed review. You cannot beat facts and details for people to consider when they are evaluating a product. A good review takes a significant chunk of time - the effort is appreciated!
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Stuart, so far I've reviewed a Vevor dividing head, a tilting table, and the vice. The vice is new of course so I've not used it yet but I've used both the dividing head and the table for important tasks and found them to be very good for my needs. But yes, I thought 'what can anybody think to say about a vice?' and then several hours later....... Cheers Paul
@billdoodson4232
7 ай бұрын
I bought one of these off Vevor about a year ago for my older milling machine and must admit to finding it really quite good, even excellent for the money. It has a good number of sharp edges that need the attention of the micro die grinder that are on the to do list, but nothing that stops it being used.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Bill, I may make a few minor improvements but overall I'm pleased. I've since spotted that the screw is a bit shorter than I would like - it's half way out of the nut when the jaws are fully closed. Cheers
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
7 ай бұрын
Hi Paul. The Vevor vice is very similar in looks to the ARC Versatile vices sold by Arc Eurotrade in 80mm, 100mm and 125mm widths. I have used the 80mm for many years and found it robust, accurate and reliable. Mine at 8kg is so much lighter and looks dinky compared to your beast. 🥴
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, I will have to see how I get on with the 6in vice it is large. I'll keep the Indian vice also because it has the swivel base. My mill has a 45 degree horizontal swivel table but my shaper does not. That's just given me an idea - my shaper table swivels left/right, the shaper head swivels, and my vice swivels so I could set up quite a complex compound (not a new thing but I just realised I have that option). Cheers
@TrPrecisionMachining
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for you time Paul
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Always welcome 👍
@andrewdalgarno5322
7 ай бұрын
Your video is timely, Paul. I ordered a couple 6 inch vices off amazon and they just arrived. Exactly the same packaging, so fair chance it's the same manufacturer, just a different reseller. Appreciate the review! Andrew
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
You are welcome Andrew. Cheers
@GardenTractorBoy
7 ай бұрын
I do like Vevor products, they are good for the price. I like how they have thought about coolant drainage
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi J&I, I was at the autojumble at the weekend and saw a small UK-made swivel vice looking pretty worn out for the price of that 6in Vevor vice. I know which I'd rather have. People don't realise that a lot of the old every-day British tooling stuff made for schools and colleges was cr*p. I have some examples myself. Cheers Paul
@russellwall1964
7 ай бұрын
I have the 3” version that came with my mill (it’s much smaller than the one you have, but works for me) and I have found it to be a good value for the cost. It’s performed well and is decently accurate. As always, I appreciate your honest reviews and enjoy hearing your take on a particular product. The jaws on my 3” are reversible as well. Comes in handy for smaller vices.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Thank you Russell. Arguably the 6in is a bit large for my mill but I may be glad of that at some point. Cheers
@coplandjason
7 ай бұрын
Good review Paul. I have a couple of Vevor vices (Vici perhaps?) One is a standard blue-painted 4" which is quite a decent bit of kit but I also bought a 4" "Precision" Vevor vice which I'm quite pleased with. Bang for the bucks they're excellent value, a Kurt clone really. I do agree with you on the manual, the translation is pretty poor but for something as simple as a vice it wasn't a problem, on some of Velour's more sophisticated equipment it could be an issue though. Cheers
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Jason, I fed back to Vevor about the manual so maybe they will encourage their supplier to improve it. Cheers Paul
@glennwright9747
7 ай бұрын
I have a similar 4” vice but branded “Elephant”. I found the base was warped when I checked it on the granite plate, and when I tram the jaws there is about 1/2 thousand deflection as I pass the jaw bolt holes. Being hardened steel and no surface grinder in my shop a scraped the base and used a diamond hone to help true the jaws. Took hours, but I know it is still not 100% and there are so many other deficiencies in my mill, I just live with it.
@Watchyn_Yarwood
7 ай бұрын
One of the best observations of Vevor products is on Matthias Wandel's Woodgrears channel, video entitled Why all the hate for Vevor? I encourage all to take a listen.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Glenn, it is a little bit "you gets what you pays for" but I think for the money you get a lot. Like you, I will live with a few imperfections. Cheers
@bostedtap8399
7 ай бұрын
Interesting disection of the specifications Paul 😮😅, good idea to review physical size in detail 👍. Happy milling. Thanks for sharing.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi John, yes I need to find a project to test it on now. Cheers
@robertginther9248
7 ай бұрын
For the price it's OK. Had a 6 inch machinist vice & finally broke down & got a Kurt. Apples & oranges. Worth every dime. Repeatable to within 1/2 a thou., but I work to within 50 millionths. Even I can't beat free, though. Good score on your part. Cheers.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Bob, I've just spotted a scruffy lookin 6in Kurt for sale on ebay at £309 and £792 postage from US. That totals up to US$ 1350 for something with hardly any paint and drill holes in the bed. Fact is all our UK tool manufactures went by the 2000s and our options now are generally Chinese or Indian for anything new. I did see a new high-precision Kurt-style vice for sale in the UK at about $1000US - it was Indian. Cheers
@robertginther9248
7 ай бұрын
HOLY COW! I had no idea what that stuff costs there. You did GREAT Paul! Sorry I even mentioned Kurt. Keep doing what you're doing & don't listen to idiots like me. Darn near had a heart attack @ the pricing. Cheers.
@blindness2sight119
4 күн бұрын
great review. I really need to know, though, does the jaw/workpiece lift when tightened? They claim that this vice has a lockdown system and is a sellig point. would have been great if that was explored. Cheers.
@HaxbyShed
2 күн бұрын
Hello blindness, so I just clamped a known square block 35mm wide and the sliding jaw lifted 1/100 of a mm or near enough half a thou. If I spent more time cleaning everything it might be less. So compared with a normal vice with a dovetail slide and gib I'd say the Vevor vice does pretty well. Hope that helps. Cheers
@TheDaniel85
6 ай бұрын
The MK2 is not really an error, mk2 is a pretty common terminology as it's short for either Morse Konus in German or Morse Kona in Swedish. Just as it's MT in English.
@HaxbyShed
6 ай бұрын
Hi TheDaniel, thank you. Another person pointed that out too and now I'm aware of the gap in my knowledge. It was on the Vevor UK site so maybe the English term was still better. I try not to fall into the trap of assumptions and (mis)judgements but it does sometimes happen when I'm over confident. Cheers.
@TheDaniel85
6 ай бұрын
@@HaxbyShed No worries, just figured you might want to know why it said MK instead of MT. But being on the UK site it should probably say MT though. We use both over here, with MK being the most common of the two.
@tsheritageengineering
7 ай бұрын
I have a 5" on the Harrison and a 4" on the Tom Senior.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Clearly Tony you are a man with many vices 🤣🤣😁 (Not being rude, Tony is a friend).
@Watchyn_Yarwood
7 ай бұрын
One of the best observations of Vevor products is on Mitthias Wandel's Woodgrears channel, video entitled Why all the hate for Vevor? I encourage all to take a listen.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi W_Y, thank you I just watched it and left a comment. Cheers
@yelims20
5 ай бұрын
I like my Kurt D40, DX4, D675, and DX6. The 4" cost more than the 6". I got the D675 used and cheap, I bought the others new. Yes, it is an expensive hobby... buy once, cry once.
@HaxbyShed
5 ай бұрын
Hi yelims, thanks for the comment. I will make the assumption that you are in the USA. It's just down to cost really - a Kurt here will set you back US$750 perhaps. Even a scruffy used one with drill holes in it could be US$450. Shipping costs from the US to UK are eye watering - and on top we get stuffed with 20% purchase tax (VAT) and import duty (perhaps 5%). The tax and duty are applied to the total value, which is the value of the item + the shipping costs. (Yes they actually put tax and duty on the shipping costs as well!!). This is because there is no trade agreement between the US and UK. Cheers
@MartinE63
7 ай бұрын
A 90 degree rotation on the vice and all will fit the milling machine table 😀
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Martin, yep I was slow to pick that up but my teachers have put me straight now.🤣 Cheers
@thewoodworkingstudio
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for you review. Just curious why you fit the vice lengthwise on the mill table. Is this because you can also horizontal mill?
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi there, I'm probably showing my lack of knowledge but I always try to cut towards the 'hard stop' of the fixed jaw. The logic being that heavy cutting on work clamped at the sides might allow the work to be pushed along in the vice jaws. Cheers
@hilltopmachineworks2131
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Paul. Too bad they don't carry an 8" version.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Tom I can see some in China (Aliexpress etc) but shipping is prohibitive. Cheers Paul
@hilltopmachineworks2131
7 ай бұрын
Okay thanks.@@HaxbyShed
@kennykash6089
5 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to my why anyone would use a 3" screwless vice sold by LMS? I'm just starting out, but it seems like junk to me. Well ground but difficult to use. I'm sure it isn't, but it's over my head. Looking for one like this now for milling. Thanks for the review.
@HaxbyShed
5 ай бұрын
Hi Kenny, I have no experience with screwless vices but I see how it works. The vice I reviewed for Vevor is a Kurt-style clone and I think it will meet my needs though I would probably have bought a smaller one - maybe 5 inch. (The 6in vice I reviewed was provided free to me). Our US colleagues swear by the Kurts but you are talking £450 to £650 probably for a vice of that quality in UK. Unlikely you will come across one cheap in a 'yard sale' or car boot sale. Cheers Paul
@Warped65er
7 ай бұрын
Thx for the vid.
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Welcome Sir.
@everlast2658
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@HaxbyShed
6 ай бұрын
You are welcome 👍
@newt2010
Ай бұрын
I have never seen anyone mount the vise from left to right. I have always mounted mine and only seen others mount them so the handle is facing the operator. This is a first. Why are you mounting it that way?? CHEERS
@HaxbyShed
Ай бұрын
Hello Newt, you can see I'm still learning/experimenting. I did it because I always prefer to work/cut towards the fixed jaw of the vice so that no matter how much force the cut requires the work will not slip in the jaws. Now saying that I generally cut in line with the table axis because my mill only has an x-axis power feed (no y-axis power feed). I have a big Indian vice that has clamping lugs on both the sides and ends so it will clamp on the table either way. Cheers
@argee55
7 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with being an "influencer."
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Hi Argee55, if people ask me "what do you do?" I say KZitemr. Sometimes I slip it into conversation and typically young people say such things as "I was not expecting that!". Always good to have a few surprises up your sleeve, especially as we get older. 😁
@theoldstationhand
7 ай бұрын
MK 2/3/4 etc is a German thing
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
Yes indeed - I see the latest VW Golfs are Mk8. The German car makers are heading for a tough time, as the cold wind of stiff competition blows in from the East. Cheers
@theoldstationhand
7 ай бұрын
@@HaxbyShed Yeah, I think you missed my point, (not that I explained it very well) they actually refer to MT(Morse Taper) as MK (Morse Kegel) in Germany. Same dimensions per each taper. Similarly, taper dimensions for NT40 are the same as SK40 but tooling is retained by different drawbar threads. You find out all about this after operating German machines such as Deckel and Maho. Cheers
@HaxbyShed
7 ай бұрын
ah sorry that went over my head completely. That's useful to know. Cheers
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