The 3 best things ever that the UK has produced... The Land Rover, Concorde & the IC125!!! Brilliant
@Martindyna
Жыл бұрын
Add to them the Spitfire and the Rolls-Royce Merlin & RB211 engines. I don't like to be too nationalist but I am so glad that we still have Rolls-Royce PLC to take pride in here having had so many companies sold off overseas like in the electronics & software fields I believe.
@Dave_Br
Ай бұрын
Tommy Cooper, Ken Dodd and Dick Emery
@jonahspiper
3 ай бұрын
Comfort and service from British Rail in 1985 you could only dream of today....This may have been a one-off run but as a regular user of HSTs and Inter-City services at the time, first class dining, just as in the video was a regular option, on-board buffet catering was excellent and second class had mostly seats with tables, less aircraft style seating. Ive not seen a better service anywhere today on any network from any provider than was provided by BR in 1985!
@leonblittle226
3 жыл бұрын
The Original HighSpeed One was an HST set let off the chain with a pair of Valenta V12s hammering along at 145mph.
@davidjones3758
4 жыл бұрын
A brilliant tribute to British engineering
@WarshipTV
4 жыл бұрын
The finest train the UK has ever had! Diesel perfection!
@dronespace
4 жыл бұрын
Diesel goodness ❤️
@kiwitrainguy
4 жыл бұрын
The HST's were designed as an afterthought to the XPT. Some afterthought!
@WarshipTV
4 жыл бұрын
@@kiwitrainguy Do you mean APT? Otherwise I am afraid you have it the wrong way around. The XPT was derived from the British built HST and built under licence in Australia. In the UK there were 200 power cars. The prototype HST entered service in 1972 followed by the Production HST in 1976, whilst the Oz XPT didn't enter service until 1982. Or did you mean APT - Advanced Passenger Train, something else completely!
@nkt1
4 жыл бұрын
@@kiwitrainguy Not so much an afterthought to the APT, not XPT, as hedging their bets, and rightly so.
@kiwitrainguy
4 жыл бұрын
Warship TV & nkt1 - Sorry, my mistake, I was writing from memory. I meant APT. It was taking too long to develop so they designed the HST's as well. The XPT is Australian, I get confused with these Alphabet Soup names they come up with sometimes.
@fatwalletboy2
5 жыл бұрын
2hrs 19m for 269 miles....... Who needs a HS2.....?
@deathbyteacup
4 жыл бұрын
Not practical in regular service sadly, the signalling just isn't up to snuff. They would have had to make a lot of exceptions and special arrangements to make this happen.
@PeaveyPV20
3 жыл бұрын
These record breaking runs tend to be non stop as well on a line clear of local services and freight
@PenzancePete
3 жыл бұрын
1 Short formation set of five coaches rather than eight. 2 All other traffic on the line cleared. 3 No intermediate stops 4 HS 2 will only be used by high speed trains, not a mixture that includes freight and stoppers.
@MePeterNicholls
3 жыл бұрын
@@deathbyteacup oh I see why 140 isn’t regular
@paulmcgeever5343
2 жыл бұрын
HS 2 is already massively over budget and won't be for the average commuter price wise. They can only recoupe over investment with high ticket prices.
@SteamboatWilley
5 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of an HST being used for a Pullman service until GWR's recent introduction of one to the west country. Thanks for sharing this video.
@hexagon7895
5 жыл бұрын
Not only did BR re-introduce Pullman dining services with the 125s, the later build of Mk3b loco-hauled coaches included some Open Firsts designated as Pullmans and used on services such as the Liverpool Pullman and Manchester Pullman on the WCML. The InterCity 225s also operated Pullman services, including in the early 1990s not one but a good three or so timed to do London-Edinburgh in 3 hrs 59 (faster than any present schedule, the single southbound only Flying Scotsman is 4 hrs with one stop, and I believe the fastest ever passenger schedule on the ECML) with two stops.
@tomhami
5 жыл бұрын
GWR have been doing if for a number of years now I believe. I one to Exeter five or six years ago getting a can of Tribute and asked what the amazing smell was, Fillet Steak or maybe the pan fried chicken I was told! There's also the Cardiff to Anglesey run (aka The Gerald) that does fresh food too included with your 'business class's ticket but not HST I believe.
@hexagon7895
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomhami Not quite the same, GWR's "Pullman" generally has to be pre-booked and is limited to the accomodation in the buffet car (or I think leading First Class car in the IETs. The BR Pullman service was offered at every First Class seat on such services and without a need to pre-book. Transport for Wales' Premier Service uses Class 67s with a Mk3 push-pull set (generally 5 coaches now); it doesn't need pre-booking but First Class seating is fairly limited.
@PigletTube
2 жыл бұрын
That's even faster than the new electric azuma!
@yescharliesurfs
3 ай бұрын
What a bunch of railway legends!!!
@EM-yk1dw
2 жыл бұрын
This was when train travel was a pleasure, now it’s an expensive ordeal.
@ChrisCooper312
4 жыл бұрын
Quite an achievement to not only set a world record for a diesel train, but in regular service too. The Spanish have claimed to have beaten the record, but that was a prototype and was never verified.
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
Tees-Tyne Pullman was a regular service, but this run was a staged publicity event under special arrangements. The train had five instead of the (then) standard eight coaches, there were 'clear run' conditions for signalmen to work to, no intermediate stops...and over certain stretches the 125mph limit was authorised to be exceeded!
@TrenyCwm
7 ай бұрын
The USSR beat it with an 160mph diesel train. Looks rubbish though whereas the HST is beautiful.
@cryptidhunter9901
2 жыл бұрын
I heard from a train driver that he and several others used to push these trains to 140mph back in the 80s on the western line and the northern line in certain stretches.
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
In those days you could apply experience to take a few liberties when running late. Stretches of good riding track + dry rail + well-sighted signals + when least likely to be 'railway suits' on board your train....
@andybray9791
11 ай бұрын
Now modern signalling won’t allow it. Western line u mean wcml?
@Danse_Macabre_125
5 ай бұрын
@andybray9791 No, they meant the GWML out of Paddington
@HedleyOnTheHill
3 жыл бұрын
See this is why you always trust a man from Newcastle. We'll do it
@dinglebay100
3 жыл бұрын
As a schoolboy in the 70s all we ever wanted to do as to be a 125 driver. Ironically I would go onto the footplate but on the SR, never got o drive a 125.
@boyinblue3500
3 жыл бұрын
I have one of the coins given to the staff who were on that train, my cousin was working in the buffet car
@Martindyna
Жыл бұрын
A good example of how prejudiced the media & commentators under the video can be, no mention of the spilt coffee on this IC125 run but moaning about the slight vibration of the cups of coffee on the APT 7:06
@neiloxley7229
2 жыл бұрын
I remember a 5 car hst operating on that line left 20 min late and arrived 3 min early. I wont mention the operator but it was a direct service between Sunderland and Kings Cross. Black train, orange stripe. Was a bit rattly. I asked the conductor how fast we were going and he said "must be exactly 125mph." 23 minutes saved on that trip. I reckon he was fibbing.
@kevinsmeeton9504
2 жыл бұрын
Grand Central?
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
Driven hard, most likely, not overspeeding. For the last twenty years all trains have had 'black box' recorders, and for longer than that HSTs have had speed governors, but I certainly remember some creative driving on HST journeys in the 1980s and 90s when making up lost time.😉
@cambo2910
4 жыл бұрын
I was on the footplate as the Intercity technical representative.
@nkt1
4 жыл бұрын
Apart from disabling the speed regulator and the shorter formation, did they make any other modifications to the train?
@cambo2910
4 жыл бұрын
nkt1 No the only major consideration on selecting the two power cars for the run was there wheel diameters, we looked for two units with new wheel sets so would have the maximum wheel size.
@nkt1
4 жыл бұрын
@@cambo2910 Interesting, thanks. The Valenta, cooler group, traction motors etc. obviously performed well at the higher loads.
@cambo2910
4 жыл бұрын
nkt1 only had half the usual train load so no problem.
@Keithbarber
3 жыл бұрын
@@cambo2910 black underpants
@bowlerwildcatGaming1991
3 жыл бұрын
There need to do the run again with the new return of the 2020 Pullman
@ABCDEF-yf4yu
3 жыл бұрын
The fastest sections of the line are between Darlington and York, and Grantham and Peterborough.
@AlphaNovemberHotel651
3 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t appreciated it was a short train of only 5 coaches plus the two power cars. Not a full length 8+2 HST. But nice one!!
@thefareplayer2254
4 жыл бұрын
3:06 T1 Trust: “Hold my regulator!”
@fatwalletboy2
Жыл бұрын
Im more impressed by the 115 average! And at 1.20 is that Prue Leith sat by the window?
@Martindyna
10 ай бұрын
Sorry no, pretty sure that's not Prue.
@kevinsmeeton9504
2 жыл бұрын
Question where is the ECML electrification in 1985, was it not completed back then?
@thebritishempire8754
Жыл бұрын
Don't think so, I'm from the North East and I think the electrification was completed in the 1990s, as trains were diverted to the Leamside line.
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
The project got government's go-ahead the year before this run. Electrification from Hitchin to Leeds was finished in 1989, and Doncaster to Edinburgh in 1991.
@joshuashepherd1439
3 жыл бұрын
1:25
@RobTheTrucker
3 жыл бұрын
7:07 Someone spilt a cup of tea :D
@trespire
3 жыл бұрын
@Chuck Noris That's a capitol crime in England.
@leonblittle226
2 жыл бұрын
For a Mk3 to be moving around enough to do that - I know from experience its being driven REALLY hard.
@markpunt9638
4 жыл бұрын
Have forgotten how amateurish, or maybe homely, regional reporting could be back then.
@PeaveyPV20
3 жыл бұрын
At least there was regional programming back then, does not really exist now
@colanitower
3 жыл бұрын
5:18 Any problems? - No problems whatever. No problems. ... Really? 😁
@abloogywoogywoo
3 жыл бұрын
Inter City 125: Look at me! I'm the fastest diesel in the world! Mallard (naked): Don't look at me! I'm not decent!
@MePeterNicholls
3 жыл бұрын
143 mph. Why did they downgrade the lines to 125?
@RabbitboyUK
3 жыл бұрын
They didn't the Signalling can't allowed over 125 because you'll need in cab Signalling in place and we didn't have that plus the fact that Local Trains are on the same tracks usually and you'd probably end up dead if you went 143 all the time 😐
@andrewjames3908
2 жыл бұрын
health & safety brigade decided it wasnt safe as drivers might mis see signals at that speed. dont really see how when the aws bell would clearly indicate it was green. when the IC225 was introduced it was intended to do 140mph and in fact holds world speed record for a loco hauled train (162mph, all trains that go faster are EMUs not loco hauled). makes me wonder why they trialled atp on the gwml when the ecml would have made more sense overcoming the signal sighting concerns
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
@@RabbitboyUK BR gave authority to exceed the 125mph limit only where signal spacing and sighting gave drivers a wider than normal margin of safety...and it was still within the braking system capability to stop safely within those spacings if required.
@splitters2477
2 жыл бұрын
Bet it drank some diesel doing that speed....
@Jeffybonbon
2 жыл бұрын
Today its a miss
@homeone4054
3 жыл бұрын
Azuma anyone....?
@galactic_nerd-sk4747
4 жыл бұрын
What about an Azuma? 😉😏
@Bahamas-rd8le
3 жыл бұрын
Galactic_Nerd-sk they’re rubbish
@Martindyna
3 жыл бұрын
It may perform well but we can take no pride in it's design.
@timwebster8122
3 жыл бұрын
Imported crap
@BritishTrainspotting
4 ай бұрын
safety systems won't allow for speed limits to be exceeded. IETs are capable of 140mph under electric power, they are only limited to 125mph due to safety systems and the line speed.
@davidjones3758
4 жыл бұрын
Why put crappy yank style music to the HST
@davidjones3758
4 жыл бұрын
Tosser
@davidjones3758
4 жыл бұрын
@MusicalElitist1 PRAT you wouldn't know music if it bit your backside,And I Am NOT a musician.So forget crappy music For THE HST
@tomtalk24
4 жыл бұрын
@MusicalElitist1 Agree, its 1985, northern news. A 7 minute segment, not quite the moon landings.
@paulhorn2665
4 жыл бұрын
Today they would put muslim music on it. Because diversity
@saltspringrailway3683
4 жыл бұрын
@MusicalElitist1 Nothing little about England.
@Rupertbear27
4 ай бұрын
Never be the same as sitting on a Pullman pulled by a STREAK or a DELTIC---although it's better than the crap these days !
@volvos60bloke
3 жыл бұрын
got brexit done
@mikeyb444
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic British engineering at it's very best. Take note snowflake generation😱
@jackmason7823
3 жыл бұрын
And it's the boomer generations fault we're still at the same speed 😉
@richardwills-woodward5340
3 жыл бұрын
135mph was quite regular in daily service until limiters. It shows the signalling was fine for the job for many years. You actually had to be a driver back then. Today it has to be idiot proof for people incapable of sharp eyesight like pilots. Now the Azumas are slower than anything gone before, and a diesel no less that beat them. Timetabled 1hr44 minutes to York where it was done in 1hr 40 minutes and later 1hr 39. All slower today. If there was a cable thief today, Millennials won't fix it like that, they'll say it can't run and we'll have to wait until next month for the parts. The UK has a weak generation and the ambition has all drained away in favour of over-regulation and excuses for it.
@tomtalk24
4 жыл бұрын
BR man: "People want it, business people want it". No, rich BR bosses want it, rich people would like dinner on it. People want trains, to work, on time, with seats. Out of touch much, all for Pullman trains but not on my taxes. Nice to see the A4 naked though.
@markpunt9638
4 жыл бұрын
This was 1985 - and not now.
@steveluckhurst2350
3 жыл бұрын
you obviously don't want a pullman train. You could eat those chips on your shoulders!
@thomash2806
2 жыл бұрын
How can Newcastle to London be a world record? Newcastle to London can’t happen in the rest of the world. It can only be a very local record. That’s hilarious. Typical British claptrap. The myth of influence only lives on in that kind of comment. I bet it takes twice that 40 years later. British progress! 🤣
@chasc301
Жыл бұрын
05.43. The ‘world record’ elements stated in the report are the top speed and average speed. Not the specific route.
@ChangesOneTim
Жыл бұрын
@@chasc301 ...for diesel traction...
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
World record for diesel traction, doesn't matter if it was set in Britain or Timbuktu
Пікірлер: 107