Honestly, I'm glad. I did not like Zero at all and was hoping they'd find a way to retcon it or at least the whole part with Tucker losing his signature sword
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I think the way they did it makes the most sense if they want to return to the finale of season 13. Not mad about that at all
@fumi7643
Жыл бұрын
I thought zero was cool, but maybe it could've been its own series instead of being season 18
@DIGITALGH05T
Жыл бұрын
zero had some crazy ass action scenes but the story was trying to do too much with 6 episodes
@lykan2
Жыл бұрын
@@fumi7643 Zero would have been fine if they would have gotten rid of any RvB references, be it in the title, references in episodes or actual appearances. It's own thing in the same Universe, without any direct connection to it.
@dogeknight6000
Жыл бұрын
@@AlFishI actually loved season 17 most especially Washington and Carolina’s relationship and general character development because that was just sweet and absolutely great for both characters and the Loki story a grand total of 8 times so
@AceToast777
Жыл бұрын
The fragment is definitely Sigma, and I think you're spot on about the reasoning why. It also is foreshadowing with the fire in Church's helmet
@ryanschmidt58
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s him, it’s the meta, or rather the AI amalgamation that controlled the meta
@CDNBreadDogs
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanschmidt58The Meta was, at the end of the day, Sigma. When the Meta was first born it was still only Sigma inside, and he just gathered more AI from there
@lazyliongames6660
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s omega since church used every fragment except omega and omega even acted like how the mystery man asking church something along the lines of “are you getting angry?” When Carolina was fighting the flamethrower guy in the mountains
@shoulderpyro
Жыл бұрын
I.. honestly think its neither Sigma, nor Omega. ..I think it's Beta. Tex. The figure is wearing black armour, much like Tex was. Tex, or at least robo-tex, had a similar robotic voice as well, and as the Beta Ai, she too was a fragment. The Fragment of Allison's memories And the mystery figure is, as Church calls out, the one overflowing the feed with visions of Allison. The two seem to be on decent terms with each other, despite also having different points of view. "Do you ever wonder why we're here" is not something we've seen Sigma say before, nor should Sigma remember it as he wasnt present during blood gulch... but Tex, or Beta rather, WAS present. ... in any case I'm probably wrong but I'm holding out faith that it's Beta
@lazyliongames6660
Жыл бұрын
@@shoulderpyro no, Tex was forgotten by epsilon and has never appeared again, she’s been deleted, and the black armor only helps my theory that it’s omega because he was so connected to Tex and would always find a way to her when given to someone else
@carloseot5548
Жыл бұрын
I know this is a retcon, BUT... it makes sense knowing that it was Epsilon this whole time making these simulations, how sometimes the characters behave (specially Tucker) is like Church making these simulations and being like "yeah my buddies can do this and can do that" and at some point during Zero he literally just creates an action movie like the ones he loved to watch with Carolina, is poetic sense while also being a retcon
@awesomecake_abc2748
Жыл бұрын
How do we actually know it is a retcon though?
@carloseot5548
Жыл бұрын
@@awesomecake_abc2748 cuz it was said that it was all a simulation, so it never happened
@awesomecake_abc2748
Жыл бұрын
@carloseot5548 it's equally likely that it was a stylistic choice, a way for the show to reflect on its past (looking at all seasons) to give the prologue a sense of finality. That's why they were showing seasons from 1 all the way to 17. The simulations could have just been a justification for showing future seasons in the moment. Otherwise, they couldn't show Church. What's stopping the show from continuing where it left off?
@angelusb2066
7 ай бұрын
@@awesomecake_abc2748honestly other than the clear hints in the trailer burnie didn’t write it and that was one of the biggest complaints
@titustavares335
Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of character development from 14-17. Like Donut’s time adventure, Doc resolving his issues with O’Malley, Griff’s storm off and eventual rescue mission, Sarge let his need to be a soldier go after fighting “himself”, Caboose got to say bye to church, Wash got shot in the neck….I’m actually really glad that’s not happening…maybe he’ll be fine this season. I’m happy they’re ret-coning this, they could easily put all this stuff in the new season in new ways. Can’t fucking wait.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I really liked how emotional Wash's story got, so I'll always look at that part of the newer seasons fondly because it actually tugged on my heart a bit. Then again I'm sure this season will as well given the circumstances
@ArcTrooper-fx4wh
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad our boys will soon get a proper goodbye...I just hope they all have a happy ending
@ReiseLukas
Жыл бұрын
I said my proper goodbye in Season 13. There was no need to continue after that.
@caboose_is_god5115
Жыл бұрын
I honestly stopped watching TV not long after season 13. I forgot exactly but somewhere around S15. this is by far the best thing RT could have done to not only save the show but even improve in these wacky random seasons. I can watch it without having to wonder if I'm on LSD
@ArcTrooperRod-269
Жыл бұрын
The Mysterious A.I. has an Eva Suit, just like Meta, IT'S OBVIOUS IS SIGMA
@TakaChan569
Жыл бұрын
Man i forgot this show was even a thing yet alone still being made, it sounds less fun and more drama filled than i remember it being at the start lol.
@Thanos5
Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching when their was a story being formed and no longer was just some guys dicking around in a map
@ShirouBrando
Жыл бұрын
The story is actually really good up to the ending of season 13 I highly recommend it
@Ragingknight12
Жыл бұрын
@@Thanos5so before Meta shows up.
@mattemattics5667
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I’ll be a little upset we don’t still get: Wash’s brain damage. That was a really dramatic part of the post-Chorus story. Though they did ruin it in Zero so hey
@Spectralyzed
Жыл бұрын
2:48 Wait, Sigma was voiced by Elijah?! Holy- now that I think about it, I can totally hear it. That's actually incredibly cool!
@NanashiKokoro
Жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of retconning details, but I can make an exception for this one. Everything beyond season 13 was *watchable,* but it did feel off. This would cleanly explain it all away and still keep the core story intact. I'm all for it.
@Karampole217
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they can rope back Joel as well for this.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
In an ideal world I'd like to see the entire OG cast return to finish the show, but sadly I don't think it'll happen
@bdeamon1
Жыл бұрын
I think we'll still have Caboose at least. Wish Joel could voice him tho
@PebkioNomare
Жыл бұрын
There's a chance that this isn't actually Epsilon, either. There are no fragments here that weren't in the Meta's head when Alpha entered it before Washington supposedly hit the Emp. Even though they say there were two others that Epsilon *definitely* should've remembered as well. This could actually be taking place in the Meta's head at Command. The memory fragments wouldn't be memories, they're the actual fragments, trying to help put the Alpha "back together" by letting him deal with his trauma as Epsilon. The only part that sucks about this theory is that it removes, basically, *all* character and story development for the past 15 years.
@PebkioNomare
Жыл бұрын
It does fix some problems I had with the series in general, though. Like Epsilon fully recreating Beta again, somehow. And how the Director was able to recreate Beta over and over and over without the Alpha. How Epsilon was able to set his memories on tasks as if they were fragments. Why the Progenitors were the same species as the aliens that impregnated Tucker but didn't speak the same language and weren't involved in the Great War and who's tech wasn't the aliens tech, actually... the disconnect is weird and, thus, hard to fully describe. And the blarg aliens weren't involved with what's happening in Chorus at all? Really? Not even a passing interest?
@manemperorofmankind8119
Жыл бұрын
Say what you all want about everything past 13, but season 15 brought us one of the best RVB seasons ever, easily a top 3 contender
@connorstephens2651
Жыл бұрын
I presumed that the other fragment speaking was tex, using the voice simulator again similar armour too so that would make sense especially if they were showing all the fragments and Tex was created by alpha so why not epsilon too. She had to still be in their somewhere
@laverniustucker8198
Жыл бұрын
Tbf, we don't know what it is. They haven't confirmed it to be a retcon and if so, why do it on the final season?
@flyzfm5060
Жыл бұрын
Im sad the Chorus arc is being retconned because I actually loved that season, Locus and Felix were perfect villians and made the reds and blues push themselves
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
The final season takes place as the Chorus arc ends, nothing with Locus and Felix will be retconned other than Locus' involvement with the wash getting shot storyline!
@flyzfm5060
Жыл бұрын
@@AlFish oh shit I must've forgotten that, and I just finished rewatching all the way to S15 from the beggining rip
@hydrocodred6672
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched any RT content in awhile especially hearing about the controversies the company was dealing with. And yeah season 15-18 was disappointing to me especially with other RT series such as RWBY. But since they’re gonna make a final season of RvB with the OGs themselves, I might as well come back one last time.
@Rasmatus
Жыл бұрын
Thankfully everything after season 13 was a non-canon event, thanks to Spider-Man 2099
@KireaPhillips_superj0ka
Жыл бұрын
Is it crazy that I don’t think Season 14 is a simulation? Or if it is, then it’s VIC’s shutting down and leaking all of Project: Freelancer.
@aZeddPrattFilm
Жыл бұрын
What do you think of Red vs Blue: Out of Touch?
@selena8472
11 ай бұрын
I would like to add one thing I have already seen one creator pull something like this ever heard of Dragonball GT?? *and then!!!!* to no one's surprise people from that timeline show up in the main timeline only this time in the reverse order of the other timeline and of course said Creator is likely thinking he's sneaky and that we wouldn't notice see you can't have it both ways you can't say I'm gonna retcon this chunk and then make parts of said chunk appear in the main timeline the ones doing this season better be absolutely sure there's no other way to handle this because retcons can be dangerous overall.
@liamw3153
Жыл бұрын
I’m just disappointed they cut Washington getting brain damage as that would have been an amazing thing for character development and was completely ignored in Zero
@pieemoji6702
Жыл бұрын
I really hope Joel Heymen comes back for this season
@fiammaorsmth9840
Жыл бұрын
i doubt it
@gorestar216
Жыл бұрын
I thought the fire ai was omega?
@alpha1346
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the show since I was like 13 when Washington was wounded and they stopped putting the latest seasons on YT and Netflix dose anyone know where I can watch this series again I miss it and I'd love to watch the latest episodes
@saltshaker6002
Жыл бұрын
They took it off netflix but they never stopped uploading it on yt as far as i remember, at the very lease you can watch every season here now.
@theCreamyCrusher
Жыл бұрын
Sick i dont have to care about the time travel or the gods i didnt even bother with zero
@Airagon_
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not Sigma. Maybe Omega because of the black armor. And it was always the strong one. Wanted to do everything because it felt it was the only one strong enough to win. Other then Beta or Tex.
@selena8472
11 ай бұрын
*sighs* I'm gonna be *that person* so I am sure someone's gonna Jump on me but I liked the seasons beyond 13 but 14 should've been the continuation of 13 but the ones after thirteen were not bad with this retcon that means in this timeline we never get to know the backgrounds of Felix and Locus See the background of the Reds and blues and discover they weren't the first and let's be honest at the end of the day it seems highly unlikely that these idiots who turned out to be a "mindbogglingly impressive team" (partial quote from wiz of DB) were actually the first of their type how many times do humans truly get things right on the first try and of course when they do for reasons beyond comprehension they want to start making copies of it though I think the one truly good thing about this is it saves Grif's life and Tucker's too.
@Bluekingdom-Customs
Жыл бұрын
as time went on i moved over to S13 been the true ending due to the massive decline in quality, Zero as a prime example of the mess, The trailer for Restoration alone is better than the previous 4 seasons and genuinely fills me with hope that this Goliath of a series ive watched since season 1 will get the ending it deserves, and not what we was getting which was a death by a 1000 cuts
@michaelnorton1427
Жыл бұрын
I’m just sad donut’s character development got Rhettconed
@jerm70
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is just sad. Red vs Blue was an internet series that should have ended after Season 8. The narrative was complete and all ties were loose. Maybe have season 9 as a finale without Church being pulled out of the unit. Trying to bait fans with "The true ending to Season 13",a story from almost a decade ago, is just symbolic of the core issue of RoosterTeeth. They cannot create something wholly new and original without it being considered mid or bad and the one who could make new good content was a talent that sadly passed on from this world. So RvB has to be a walking zombie for the sake of the company. So this final season may very well just be clickbait and they will release the hit continuation Blue vs Red in two years if RT has enough gas to stay alive in the corporate nightmare it is in.
@Naetheon
Жыл бұрын
Frodo did Sigma?? Jesus I have to look at the voice actor list more often
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction when I realized, immediately went to the show's IMDB page
@RAJi7945
Жыл бұрын
There not reconning season 14 because it's backstorys and other parts from the past of rvb
@Maverick9k
Жыл бұрын
Thank god, everything after chorus was trash
@philippierce3198
Жыл бұрын
Lol people pay to be first members just to get a whole rvb season retconned.
@AustinGMRS
Жыл бұрын
Rooster teeth knew that everyone hates rvb beyond that one season where Church/Epsilon “die-ish” so they’re mking that everything is just a test of the aftermath 🤯💥
@rexhouston6272
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a good idea. Especially when most of the original voice actors/ original rooster teeth members are gone and some even alienated. I don’t know how they plan on dragging this franchise through the mud even more than they already have. Why not, since they just recently killed RWBY. So of course it’s how the company can possibly make up for another failed series. I’m saddened by what the company has become.
@SephticMI
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they respectfully retconned Zero. People are happy it's gone and Zero fans are happy it was retconned nicely, acknowledging it saying it's cool and moving on not like "it was shit, we don't talk about it."
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I think having the in-canon acknowledgement and it almost being a Church fanfic is hilarious in a respectful way
@SephticMI
Жыл бұрын
@@AlFish he did talk about his love for the very generic trashy cheesy action flicks in the Death Battle episode so it also just makes sense he’s come up with it.
@tijera1234
Жыл бұрын
Wait, there was Zero Fans? WHY?
@SephticMI
Жыл бұрын
@@tijera1234 Because it's dumb fun? Everyones got their reasons but to me it just activated something in my brain and it was a blast to watch. I'll always be thankful to Zero for literally changing the course of my life and pushing me forward in my animation career.
@victor2641
Жыл бұрын
Well not all are happy
@morienforeshadow4553
Жыл бұрын
Even though I was a bit of a fan of the Shisno Paradox (mostly because of the character development), I do think that this is a pretty solid way to retcon those seasons. Never watched what came after the Shisno Paradox, just heard that Tucker lost his sword and I lost my interest in it. So, it may be a net positive if RvB Restoration maintains the core of the original 13 seasons.
@EliteEpicGamerz
Жыл бұрын
yeah while im overall happy that the shisno paradox was retconned, we do miss out on insane character development for Wash, Carolina, Caboose, Sister, Grif, and Donut
@raphaelrodgers7407
Жыл бұрын
Are we sure they retconned those season? Seems like to me they only rectonned season was Zero, even then that’s only because people didn’t like that season and church specifically referenced it. Even if those season were simulations, they still could’ve happened. It’s too early to say.
@starsteve4143
Жыл бұрын
@@EliteEpicGamerzPretty much my feelings also don’t forget about Locus and I did like the season 15 villains but sacrifices have to be made
@HamazuraGOD
Жыл бұрын
@@raphaelrodgers7407 Considering we're going back to the season 13 finale, and it shows clips primarily from 14-18 while discussing running simulations, i think it's very clear to say they're retconning it all
@Jose-oj6qy
Жыл бұрын
zero was the transformers Michael bay of rvb but like less cool than transformers, have to say I liked all the development of the Shinzo paradox too
@ArtyKibbles2190
Жыл бұрын
The best things about the now retconed seasons were Caboose saying goodbye to Church at the end of 15 and Donut being an actual character instead of a walking sex joke. But I am glad that they are retconing those seasons even if they had a few good moments.
@TheDirvish
Жыл бұрын
Part of me hopes that Burnie sort of keeps the "Memories" of these simulations (S14-19) so that the character archs and character moments from these seasons arent just fully lost. Donut finally embracing his pink armor, +everyone respecting him. Tucker and Kaikaina developing a friendship and maybe a budding romance. Caboose coming to terms with Churchs death, everyone understanding Wash's sacrifice by letting himself get shot in the neck for their sakes plus his further development with Carolina, Wash's newfound close friendship with donut (Born from them accidentally time traveling to when Wash shot him over and over like 20 times, ITS COMEDY GOLD) and Grif and Kaikaina finally making up with each other in the Labrynth where Grif finally admits he wasnt drafted and actually abandoned Sis and their mom to try and better himself away from them, and sis apologizing for accidentally burning their childhood house down because she was lonely after grif left and playing with fire (And also her cutting herself) Plus a bunch of other little nuggets like grif learning how much he needs the reds and blues, grif and simmons reunion and admitting how much they need each other, and Lucus turning to the light side and both befriending Grif and following in Wash and Carolina's footsteps on the path to redemption. These moments will all be lost unless theres some workaround where church somehow beams these memories from the simulations into the other characters heads. Then again, it would also mean they have to remember all the really bad character moments that have been added as well, like how season 16 completely retconned that Sis and Tucker made love in the cave at Blood Gultch - they were both so promiscuous and it made so much sense to their characters, and I think everyone unanimously agrees it sucks that they "never actually boned because they themselves time traveled back in a closed loop and accidentally scared themselves off before they could go through with it". Also it would mean they'd have to keep the memory of Sarge completely betraying everyone in Season 15 just out of like, boredom? Sarge was eccentric yes, but pre season 15 it was always in a jokingly father sort of way - and whenever things were serious he dropped the act and was actually a very nuanced and effective tactical leader who was never too stupid to lead his men and get them through a battle. Look at how cunning and brave sarge is during the Recollections trilogy and his ability to rally the troops at any given moment to save the day - then compare it to Sarge in season 15 pathetically begging for forgiveness on his knees and lying about secretly being a good guy only to get rejected by everyone. Add that with the fact donot betreayed everyone at some point, grif abandoned everyone, and doc straight up turned evil and betrayed everyone too, and youve got like, half the cast betraying their friends over the course of these last few seasons. Youd also have to keep the memories of tucker becoming king of cemlot and leading the entire country to death before abandoning them, or the fact tucker will then have to also remember punching a gus cyclops in the balls - and yeah, I guess now that i lay it out theres just as much bad stuff added to the characters as there was good. And i dont know about you guys, but despite the overall silliness of RvB, I love these characters the most when they actually display confidence when its required of them instead of routine tone deaf treachery and patheticness to drive forward instead of real stakes and drama. RvB isnt just funny, its also cool. Also side note, im actually pleased as punch that RvB is going to finally end but on Halo Infinite. Now theyve used every single game and not only come full circle with Burnie starting AND finishing the show, but also ending the show on Halo Infinite - a soft reboot of Halo CE where it all began. Its high time things come full circle - ill finally be able to accept the end of this story and move on.
@SomeRandomName460
Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like this comment was stolen..?
@theSpartan187
Жыл бұрын
Only one episode of sea14 was simulation
@TheDirvish
Жыл бұрын
@@SomeRandomName460 I copy and pasted MY OWN comment from a different rvb video, but that's just because theres no point in completely re-typing all of it out again if I'm literally sharing my own and same exact opinion between two different videos.
@effortlessfury
Жыл бұрын
Did they confirm they're using Infinite? They're definitely using UE5 given the end card in the trailer.
@TheDirvish
Жыл бұрын
@@effortlessfury I mean, they're using Infinite for the current RVB PVA's. So maybe?
@40MikeActual
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure all the events in season 14 that take place before season one are cannon. Also, the stuff about Felix and Locus are most likely cannon as well. Guess we'll find out.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm curious to see where that season falls as well, since it was more just letting other creatives add to the canon of some characters rather than being another season
@CDNBreadDogs
Жыл бұрын
Well yeah Season 14 was kinda like the writers saying "we really wanted to show you this but there was never a good time in the series... so here it is now :)!" Plus a few extra lil fun ones. Like we had origin stories for Blood Gulch and Felix+Locus, another trio of Freelancers that could still be out there (and definitely is now that season 15 is retconned), and things that happened while Church was inside the unit looking for Tex. It's definitely safe to say most of Season 14 is canon
@linkofhyrule27
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this might just be me hoping but I think the voice might be a tiny leftover fragment of Tex/Beta maybe seeing her helmet triggered something in him which is why he keeps seeing the Allison video and is told he’s the one bringing it up
@robertparkhurst4034
Жыл бұрын
Unfitting voice, Black armor, a different AI then we’re used to seeing in Epsilon and coming in after the Allison memory forced it’s way into control. Seems more logical than the Sigma suggestion
@CDNBreadDogs
Жыл бұрын
This voice is pretty identical to Sigma's voice during Epsilons confrontation with the Director. Plus the flames, and Sigma isn't among the AI thay flash on screen. Church let Tex go, as much as we'd all love to see her again, she's free
@LeadingMole058
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I’ll miss is the developing relationship between Carolina and Wash and yes I know it pretty much didn’t go beyond season 15 thanks to Wash getting shot but I felt and still feel that it was a good development for Carolina’s character and it’s nice to see Wash get a win. Maybe that’ll return in restoration, maybe not regardless I can’t deny I’m looking forward to it.
@rowdeemunkee
Жыл бұрын
Anyone else feel like its Burnie doing damage control and trying to let his baby go out on a high note?
@saltystick_99
Жыл бұрын
Genuinely wouldn't be surprised. Honestly, a lot of big name KZitemrs are regaining control of their content/channels it seems (Ian and Anthony now own Smosh 100% again) so Burnie coming back to make RvB not only have a final season, but a high note to go out on feels appropriate.
@doootuz
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny, how red versus blue, more compelling, thorough, and complete story than halo infinite or anything 343i puts together.
@HUMADUCK
Жыл бұрын
Halo 4 and Infinite had a good story
@CDNBreadDogs
Жыл бұрын
@@HUMADUCKnot better than RvB
@Carpediem357
Жыл бұрын
@@HUMADUCKno they didn’t. They have mediocre stories at best. HW2 in the “343” era was the best. Both could’ve really good but were just terrible
@dragonstormx
Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed the fight between Halo 5's two leads was leagues weaker than fights in Red Vs Blue.
@colonel1003
Жыл бұрын
@@HUMADUCKBungie intended the Forerunners to be humans so that it is ironic that the Covenant who worship the Forerunners are knowingly/unknowingly the killing actual Forerunners. Knowingly because the Prophets knew about humans being Forerunners and what the rings actually but it was already too late and they would’ve most likely lose all control of the Covenant if they were to tell the truth. Unknowingly because everyone else that isn’t one of the Prophets are unknowingly killing the very people that they worship. Now you got 343 changing all of that. They turned the Forerunners into some weird robotic force wielding vampires. And worst of all, changing Halo’s message about believing, finishing the fight against all odds into a generic chosen one story in one fucking cutscene. Remember the bitch Librarian? She somehow knew Master Chief would exist and created altered DNA for John millions of years before he’s even born. So it becomes a prophecy and her prophecy in a way is at fault why the Covenant and Human war even happens because it’s part of her prophecy. Dogshit writing. The whole dilemma of Master Chief being either a machine or human was somewhat interesting because of Cortana’s existence, but failed because they killed off Cortana and made her into to the female space version of the funny mustache guy from WW2.
@SleepySeal121
Жыл бұрын
I dropped off Red vs Blue when they did that time travel season. Admittedly though, I wasn’t super into the seasons after 13. Lotus was freaking awesome though. It’s a bit of a shame that he’s gone. Regardless, they actually found a way to get me somewhat interested in the series again, which I’m really impressed by. Though, all the Rooster Teeth controversies over the years have me hesitant to dip back into anything they make. I LOVED their stuff as a teen, but I try to keep my distance from them now.
@Jbush69
Жыл бұрын
Joel won't be caboose so I'm not watching personally
@nukebiohazard1
Жыл бұрын
I actually think the talking mystery AI is Omega, cause later on it says we and then that's when the flames of Sigma show up.
@InitialPC
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is, because when all the fragments appear behind Church Omega is one of them, but Sigma is not. The flames show up as the mystery AI monologues. Also the things he says like "I have a goal, a purpose" makes more sense with Sigma than Omega since he represents ambition. Also I think the line at the beginning "You have a new voice" is a reference to how he won't be voiced by Elijah Wood.
@theBEnjamin32_
Жыл бұрын
@@InitialPCI also think that since he is in Maine's armor, that maybe it is "powering" Sigma or Sigma is familiar with this armor the most.
@zrixie7695
Жыл бұрын
I hope they keep some parts of the simulations somehow. Like Grif learning Spanish and Locust helping them out and Doc finally snapping at them for constantly forgetting about him. I hope that happens again.
@GigaChad-tr4zj
Жыл бұрын
Alll the fans will come back for this one. Rooster teeth finally listened after years of pain and misery to make this last season. I hope they make this a good one
@MisterPuck
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t bet on that.
@b-reel5298
Жыл бұрын
I always had that little hope on my gut for “one last hurrah” with Burnie behind the wheel one last time. That hope was slowly dwindling but to know it paid off was such a great feeling, here’s hoping it’s something to praise
@daveTHEdirty
Жыл бұрын
I liked season 15 the only thing I liked about 16 and 17 was donut had a time to shine. So I'm not too heartbroken about the Retcon
@theBEnjamin32_
Жыл бұрын
Initially it was available for people at RTX. I saw it live. I cried.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I'm so jealous of you
@colonel1003
Жыл бұрын
At cried when I heard the jingle heh
@jamielee1259
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if this was a possibility but I'm not surprised considering the character and his origin
@hexxgear7573
Жыл бұрын
Don't recon the shisno trilogy it was low-key really good. Great character devoplment for Donut, Carolina and wash. Don't throw that away
@theSpartan187
Жыл бұрын
They aren't retconning Sea14. It was an anthology season. And one episode was literally a simulation. Some took place before the show and some took place in different universes
@manwithgun9768
Жыл бұрын
Even though i did enjoy some or the shizno seasons.. (keyword SOME, alot of it sucks including zero) its probably the right choice. Having time travel in this would just complicate everything even worse than the shizno paradox already suffers at
@MattSipka
Жыл бұрын
It’s a breath of fresh air when a studio takes what fans didn’t like and put a positive creative spin on it. (Like making Raiden a cyber-ninja) Addressing it and fixing it rather than ignoring it happened at all. Too bad 343 can’t seem to figure this out with the actual Halo franchise. Seems like with every new game, they like to pretend events in the previous games never even happened.
@jtbush
Жыл бұрын
If they are really retconning the previous seasons watch as they throw a curveball and kill off one or two of our characters
@robbyrhodes4572
Жыл бұрын
This is a big fuck up. I liked the shisno trilogy. They should focused more on that instead of retconing it
@haustyl12
Жыл бұрын
I believe the last simulation is rooster teeth’s Hail Mary to stay relevant since their massive scandals that tainted their brand
@kyletorrezsierra8489
Жыл бұрын
What better way to end the story, whether we knew it or not it all started with Church and its all going to end with Church
@thehyperverse
Жыл бұрын
red vs blue zero gets reconned nice coz it sucked
@AliceHobbes
Жыл бұрын
How do you retconned season 14 to 18 of Red vs Blue and make it believable so that everyone is okay with it? It was all simulation done by one of the best AI. When I heard that this was going to to be the final season of Red vs Blue I was okay because the last seasons being boring, but when I saw the prolog I got hype. They handle the retconned so well. It fit in so well with the story of RvB. I can't wait for this season. i hope they get everyone back.
@cameronbaker97
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm wondering about that too.
@wintersal449
Жыл бұрын
I originally thought that the figure talking about Alpha meant Alpha was out there alongside the original fragments (i dont really believe that the AI were able to be killed by an EMP. Seems like a flaw to me) but youre idea of epsilon sigma trying to form the alpha in someway using epsilon makes a bit more sense
@laneleach
Жыл бұрын
Anyone else love the fact that caboose and sarge, the red and blue characters, don't have any special weapons or are holding more than one, they just have their own signature guns, on both sides of tucker.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
Technically, Caboose does have a special gun since it has Freckles inside to help him not kill his teammates
@laneleach
Жыл бұрын
@@AlFish I meant something alien when I said that, but whatever.
@helcarloki1887
Жыл бұрын
Gonna be a bit of an issue if caboose doesn't come back
@WackaMei
Жыл бұрын
The only piece left to make this the finale it deserves to be is to bring back Joel Heyman as Caboose.
@Juan_Dominguez
Жыл бұрын
Yuup
@SeathThePawn
Жыл бұрын
Won't happen sadly. Joel was offered at one point to continue to be Caboose's VA, but refuses to return to RT in any way last I heard...
@WackaMei
Жыл бұрын
@@SeathThePawn I've only seen Joel comment about how they haven't reached out to him since, but that he had some lines recorded for future PSAs. I'm hoping they'll patch things up.
@perrycarters3113
Жыл бұрын
RvB was at its best in the Chorus trilogy, so.... hard to blame them for going back to that storyline for the final season.
@bananaman8691
Жыл бұрын
So it sounds like sigma is gonna be the necessary evil to reform the alpha when church is gone. In a less evil way than he was originally doing.
@AlFish
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if this version of Sigma (remember, the fragments here are technically all a part of Church and not the original fragments) ends up getting Church to agree with him in the end.
@orlando_kozak
Жыл бұрын
Pov simulation troopers
@qwefg3
Жыл бұрын
Curious to see what they do as this wouldn't be the first time they did 'AI simulations' as a season or explanation. I am more curious to see if 14-19 were just simulations or if everyone ended up experiencing some of them or at least those linked to Church. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Then again... I think half the reason why we are curious... is to see if Griff will still know how to speak Spanish. After all he needs to know it know what our favorite Spanish speaking robot is saying... and not provide any translations.
@davidblount9361
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know about the retcon I don’t think the other seasons were great but I liked that caboose was able to get some closure and I think it was one of the most impactful part of the series
@gavinduke2107
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I was hoping that S15-16 would stay. Unfortunate but understandably retconned for the final season
@cameronbaker97
Жыл бұрын
And season 17.
@matthewwatson1463
Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that this retcon and the significant downgrade of seasons 14-18 are both still better then anything 343 and paramount studios came up with for halo
@ElseAndrecool
Жыл бұрын
0:24 its 19 not 18
@Jake-dm4rk
Жыл бұрын
They aren't making 14 a simulation. It's all origins stuff.
@VegetaLF7
Жыл бұрын
14 is split into canon and simulation events now. All the prequel stuff (the Reds and Blues getting assigned to Blood Gulch, the Locus/Felix episodes, the bottom ranked Freelancers, etc) are still canon while everything else in that season as well as everything from 15 through Zero are all now retconned to being simulations.
@Gwolf303
Жыл бұрын
I'm always hesitant with retcons like this in general especially after Danganronpa V3 because it's way to easy to mess up in my opinion. I never actually finished season 17 or saw Zero so I don't personally get the hate but I hope this seasons ok.
@Chloe_Cortana
Жыл бұрын
I am upset that a lot of 14-17 are being retconned honestly. Not every episode in 14 was amazing for me, but season 15 was one of my favorite seasons ever. Grif got so much character development and I loved it. 16 and 17 had their funny moments and while yes the story was ridiculous with time travel, each season also gave good character development to basically the whole cast. Zero was cool but I didn't care for the plot personally even though I liked some of the characters (Fiona in RvB is great). I'm looking forward to Restoration to see what they do to end the show, but it is bittersweet
@carlosrendon7393
Жыл бұрын
Ohhh...it was all a simulation...ok....great news *inside my mind* MOTHERF-
@electrobob992
Жыл бұрын
I still hope they will reveal that the original Alpha SURVIVED the EMP that was used against the Meta. Since if Epsilon was this fast.. Then the ORIGINAL AI fragments would be FASTER. Where they possibly transferred INTO another part of the suit that would be IMMUNE to EMP, possibly the life support systems since I could see that system being one that shouldn't be affected in battles. Having the Alpha return as a BAD guy AI *Hating the Reds and Blues*, with Epsilon being the GOOD AI.
@jaexibylkarlssin3854
Жыл бұрын
After the pizza quest its just trash. Fuck zero. Chorus trilogy is great... blues and reds season is also good. RIP LOCO. i like the early seasons best 1-6 And loved the psa's and extras too Project freelancers era the least. I remember seasons 1-4 as they were first released in "shorty shorts, just 5 minutes at a time, hi didley dooo 555VICK"
@kingdom13keeper
Жыл бұрын
Yeah… for me, I was more a “end with RVBVBVR” where we said goodbye to church. Caboose always being the viewer themselves. Especially with a train wreck of art style of the Shinzo saga and the fact that zero took the classic ideas of “the aliens are idiots” to “aliens are gods.” But definitely happy we will be able to find out about post season 13. Although one thing I originally wanted with that ending, was instead of just dying, church sacrifices himself to split into the fragments and give them to the RVB group. Basically bringing us back to classic sigma point but it would have been sigma taking over Lopez or something lol. Although then at the end, have the villain sigma gather the AI and RVB group, just to recreate the alpha that ends up being epsilon (church) as memory has always been the key. Then end with a classic scene of the group saying “let’s go home” and end the saga with Simmons and griff zoom in and ask “ever wonder why were here” Griff just saying “no clue man but I’m happy I’m here with you” and Simmons go “what? No! I’m meaning why are we back at this shit home after being war heroes! Oh never mind” and zoom out and fade to black. Then have post card pics of each character with ending stories. ❤️
@rookiedrifter4273
Жыл бұрын
Hang on... Didn't Hargrove say that he was looking at acquiring an AI? There was that one scene where he was talking w/ Felix & Locus about the Meta's armor, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned trying to buy an AI. I'm trying to remember, are there any Fragments that we DIDN'T see get absorbed by the Meta?
@rashanmcrae9166
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm fine with this since zero, 15 and 16 has alot of flaws ( I actually like 14 since it show that not every red and blue Sim until got a happy ending or were just as scared by project freelancers doings and the while what if senerious I really liked.)
@johnyossarian1135
Жыл бұрын
Doing away with the time travel crap and whatever zero was is great but we're also losing two of the best moments in the series. Epsilon's goodbye might not happen anymore so that kinda undercuts all the tears that were spilled at that scene and arguably more importantly is the season 15 ending where caboose learns to say goodbye to church. Those are the two things I'll miss the most about what they're getting rid of. Also Dylan as a character is pretty good even if Jax is only useful for explaining plot contrivances and cracking jokes about clichés that grif did anyway. Oh, and the Felix and locus origin story
@YoungMrBlue
Жыл бұрын
I honestly think the mystery fragment is Tex but it could be Sigma
@adamalexander4883
Жыл бұрын
Kinda sucks they had to retcon season 15, I actually kind of liked it. But it was a small price to pay to get rid of the garbage that was 16, 17, and Zero.
@theduke7539
Жыл бұрын
honestly, S13E20 was the canon end for me years ago. 14 had some decent episodes but everything after 13:20 was never canon to me. Even the Wash and Carolina starting to show romantic interest in each other during Shisno. Because its just out of character for them, theyve built a decent friendship, but theyve known each other for years and for nearly all the time theyve known each other, they distrusted each other and had a lot of animosity towards each other. 13 was the true end and I think 19 being a victory lap is A okay with me, Im glad they still have heart and faith in the series that has been with us for 20 years now.
@DarkLord-7
Жыл бұрын
I think that mystery fragment is actually Beta, aka Tex. Tex has used a voice changer in the past, and Beta is telling Church that he will inevitably fail every time, something that Beta, the fragment of failure, knows all too well. And yeah, Church tried to forget Tex, but like the memory of Alison, it came back. And back to the voice change real quick, I don't think they have Kathleen anymore, so she can't come back to voice Tex, so they gotta go with a voice that Tex has used in the past, or at least a similar one.
@hylianglitchmobber7570
Жыл бұрын
So we got Burnie back but still no Joel? Cuz without Caboose there is no Red vs Blue. And I mean no offense when I say the new Caboose voice sucks ass
@beritoearmy
Жыл бұрын
i came up with an idea after the original finale, since the meta's suit was the last place the alpha existed, it would be neat if the councilor was getting an AI added to it to recover any remnant of it since we never got any conclusion on the suit, now that epsilon has reunited with the suit where the alpha last existed, something may develop. And the idea that this fragment is sigma that would make this idea have more ground as now the plot is seemingly going to center more on sigma being antagonistic searching for the alpha again
@Freelancer837
Жыл бұрын
Them retconning all of that bad shit out of the canon was the obvious and only answer. Funnily enough, that is also the case for the actual Halo games, but I doubt they'll ever be smart enough to realize that's their only option if they truly want to fix the Halo series like the Red vs Blue team did
@kareemabdulbaki1627
Жыл бұрын
could the mystery fragment be actually the epsilon fragment of church.
@loganfoco1184
Жыл бұрын
I am a season 13 is the true ending kind of guy not because of the dip in quality of the next sessions, but because it was the most perfect ending for a show I have ever seen. All shows come to an end, and like the hero that sacrifices himself, we don’t get to see what comes next. Even though we want to see the fight scene, after epsilon deletes himself, we don’t. And we don’t need to. The show is over. The cherry on top of this finale is the admission of how much that sucks. “Ain’t that a bitch.” With that line, it is the show itself admitting to the viewers that it’s over.
@affarinoxa
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched rvb since season 13. Always wondered what happened but felt like it was already over with that.
@monarchberry1107
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with retconning is the moment between Wash and Carolina near the end of Season 17. I personally think it was one of the most heartfelt character interactions in the whole series and I hope they'll re-do it here.
@Chinesetakeout382
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t like the direction the series went after 13, but I’m not a huge fan retconning it like this. Especially if this new season is a simulation.
Пікірлер: 296