We need more HUMANITY, not machinery. - Charlie Chaplin's Great Dictator speech.
@celal777
5 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I fully endorse Steve Fuller’s statement that we are made in the image of God. Although not mentioned by him or anyone else on the panel it is also true that we are fallen creatures. Therefore there is plenty of malevolence to go around. The chap called China seems to be the one person on the panel who is more realistic and prudent in this regard. So I am somewhat to very concerned about Steve Fuller’s willingness to launch into some or any kind of transhumanist agenda with the exuberance he displays in this video. Or maybe he’s being American.
@Tuskengod
13 жыл бұрын
Rachel Armstrong: "Because I'm too stupid to understand how the world works, stop experimenting and using your imaginations!" We're already all augmented. Who here uses their built-in communication abilities to contact their friends? You use a phone. Who here only uses their musculoskeletal systems for locomotion? You use a car, or a bicycle. Who here doesn't rely on a calculator for difficult mathematical problems? Accept that we're going to merge with technology no matter what the bible says.
@jdebruynviolin
13 жыл бұрын
When the guy said that "enhancements" should be mandatory a shiver went down my spine. How the hell does he think that would fly? He's certainly describing a Brave New World.
@ChildofYHVH
3 жыл бұрын
Wow look now!!!!
@wapsiwilly
13 жыл бұрын
@Monk3ySee Ditto. I'm bothered by the lack of questioning the values at work here. Nobody's distinguishing between alterations and "enhancements". We've been altering our bodies and scaffolding out our brains for 10,000 years and it seems to me that what makes transhumanism distinct from any other conceptualizations of these issues is that it's incredibly creepy, and kind of wanky.
@miskee11
13 жыл бұрын
This man is dangerous.
@Memento_Mori_Music
13 жыл бұрын
This topic usually scares the shit out of me.
@justhuman958
13 жыл бұрын
@Tethloach1 Brian + Body does not equal human. Smarter + stronger does not equal better. I recommend the movie "Bicentennial Man" by Robin William, a great philosophical discussion on what make human human.
@quatzxice
13 жыл бұрын
@bumblebeewhoisalion Very good point. All of this discussion and no one asked, what do humans really need? Do they really need to progress to full trans human? The thing about technological or industrial advancement is that sometimes a change is irreversible, even when humans have made a mistake or even when events has let certain advancements take place and not others. They also forgot to consider the fact that human biology is much slower to catch up to our tech/industrial innovations.
@rhyfelur
13 жыл бұрын
After about 10 min, I could still see their lips moving but all I could hear was blah, blah, blah
@ophiuchus1116
Жыл бұрын
11 years later... ... .. we're here‽ ⚠️
@ArchonLicht
13 жыл бұрын
@wtf9times Wrong. Keyboard is just another tool, I'm likely to replace it if needed. I haven't abandoned using my Larynx as I use Keyboard - I still use Larynx all the time, and I'm NOT likely to ever think of replacing it.
@bumblebeewhoisalion
13 жыл бұрын
yeah this is kind of interesting in a very theoretical way but i can't help thinking we should put a bit more effort into making sure all the present humans can eat and drink safe water and not be at serious risk of losing their lives through pregnancy/diarrhea/freezing to death on the streets etc. before we start planning humanity 2.0. For 99.99% of humanity, a discussion of whether to put a keyboard in your head is not that relevant... interesting though it may be.
@maxgunn555
12 жыл бұрын
to be fair his statement,thinking about what he was intending to say with his words he meant no one really believes in the books of theology and all miracles and stuff and 'our culture' could refer to america and english speaking countries where religious people there are becoming less of today. i guess saying 'secular culture' was a bit too casual.
@maxgunn555
12 жыл бұрын
the keyboard hasn't 'replaced your laynx' and put the keyboard in your head gives an image that we receive text messages rather than telepathic complex communication that we dont know of. just a bit blunt your words for my liking but i get what you're saying. and people against transhumanism and immortality are just too cynical for me and stuff.
@Nashy119
13 жыл бұрын
@Gliese0 I don't know anybody who really believes in their religion, if they did their religious friends would say they were taking the religion too far, too seriously, or just call them weird/crazy. I don't know when it became like this though.
@sonicuprising
11 жыл бұрын
It's far more common now. Especially in developed countries and amongst more educated people. How many people believe the earth is 7000 yo or it was created in 7 days? What about 100 years ago? It's an ongoing process. The statement is correct in this sense. It would also be true if "we" refers to himself and his colleagues, who he is very likely to know better than we do.
@DarkNemesis25
13 жыл бұрын
@Gliese0 when schools were funded by the governments, and then able to not force religion onto people and children.. as well as when groundbreaking science was scarce and feared for infuriating religious authoritarians, think back to the 1800's if you had something to say or experiments that could benefit mankind but crossed into anything disagreeing with gods reasoning.. you would be mocked and disregarded and your career would be nonexistant, nowadays that's not the case anymore
@cerevor
12 жыл бұрын
Miéville is the judge of the debate.
@Tethloach1
13 жыл бұрын
@justhuman I agree with 50% of that statement because I only understand half of what you mean. When was the movie released? what genre does it fall in to? the more we know about being human the better we can improve, because we are still apes physically, but we as humans range intellectually and physically. well since you said smarter+better doesn't equal better you have a good point. being happy and living good full filling lives does equal better. humans are social creatures, and learning.
@BrandonHenryYates
13 жыл бұрын
Admittedly I found it difficult to follow along, but also very intriguing. I will definitely investigate further.
@DarkNemesis25
13 жыл бұрын
im having trouble piecing together what your trying to say, could you rephrase it? i think you may be right but in terms of people being more trusting and nice to people of their own religion im note sure. I live in canada so there's a giant shift in toleration and respect between different races and religions. i find that here at least here thats its an unwritten rule to challenge anyone or treat someone differently if they think differently.
@WigManThe1st
3 жыл бұрын
This is fuc uking insane
@3Gyro
13 жыл бұрын
Wait a second, China Mieville? Fuck yeah, the author of Perdido Street Station is in this video!
@Tethloach1
13 жыл бұрын
super enhanced humans, brian 2.0 body 2.0 we can be super smart and super strong, and super efficient I can't wait.
@MrIzzyDizzy
13 жыл бұрын
the long term social ramifications of the exremely long life spans that maybe possible with transhumanist idea are enormous - imagine 90% of the population retired or working until 200 or something. i am not optimistic about the ability of science and technology actualy creating a new form that would be readily acceptable to many - mainly because the capturing of emotions that are felt - seems tobe incredibly difficult - as we dont fully understand it yet and i doubt its electro mechanical
@8legsFreak
12 жыл бұрын
@justhuman Brian + Body = a guy named Brian and a corpse. Who's Robin William?
@8legsFreak
12 жыл бұрын
@wtf9times great comment. I agree 100% We should strive for H+ to become more mainstream, with more positive representation in media (since, al least for now, The Blade Runner, The Matrix and BS:Galactica are doing us great disservice in that department).
@brianm209
13 жыл бұрын
This video is an abstract overview of our (humanity's) current understanding of the way the world is [could be] trending.I will read (pirate) the book. It would be adventageous to my (our) understanding if theRSA linked to a catologed educational description of all the references (people, concepts) ~ basicually a cornell notetaking version of a college level discussion group which follows a time based version of this video investigating key people and concepts in detail to better comprehend.
@VildanLetic
13 жыл бұрын
Oscar Pistorious is a fine exemple at human 2.0
@kidwoofwoof
13 жыл бұрын
Rachel Armstrong. Deeply in love with herself in an infantile way. Not a good person to be meddling with the future of "wetware". *Shudder*.
@nosamnosam123
13 жыл бұрын
@Gliese0 I didn't get the update either; I was so excited when I heared but when I googled "religion," I still got 800 million hits... Bummer, maybe next time.
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