Sadly I failed while editing and forgot the audio file for the lemat! (and did the new army twice) The lemat pistol is great for fanning, has a good bullet velocity and a solid shotgun! (conversion fanning is better) I can highly recommend it! Also you can put dragon breath on it for utility (burning hunters)
@tonyl9636
Ай бұрын
I feel like you should mention that slugs are powerful. I don't think my strength is slugs, but the one shots are not that hard up close.
@limonero8757
Ай бұрын
I feel like Crytek overnerfed the Uppercut a bit. It's great that it FINALLY isn't in 100% of the matches, but still.
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
ye I agree I think they could have either taken the damage or the range but both while not compensating for it was kinda rough
@charliebartlett5768
Ай бұрын
I think everyone underrates the chain pistol. They all just focus on the fanning. The real power of the chain pistol imo is having 17 shots and never having to reload during a firefight. Pairs really well with other reload heavy weapons like the Romero, Crossbow, Rival etc.
@colinm104
Ай бұрын
Agreed
@wzrd.7471
Ай бұрын
Especially with FMJ feels unfair sound tracing and wall banging full squads😂
@fieldmouse
Ай бұрын
🤠 S+ tier video as always! Thanks for putting in the work 💚
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
always fieldy!
@koyomiararagi3018
Ай бұрын
LeMat got skipped over in the audio, though I think it's placement is obvious
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
must have missed that
@mahockey3
Ай бұрын
Unfortunate that an S++ tier gets missed
@Ajattaro
Ай бұрын
Ah yeah I also went back thinking that did I miss it! 🤔 Very solid reasoning in this video! I agreed pretty close to 100%
@friendlyplayer92
Ай бұрын
Afaik Lemat shotgun also got buff, its great
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
@@friendlyplayer92 added the pinned message
@AshunPhubu
13 күн бұрын
I feel like putting the Schofield precision in E was an injustice because I love that gun and have done so much work with it, the rate of fire is as fast as the Schofield spitfire with less recoil…. I get that compared to the other medium slot options it is outshined heavily but at least D tier cmon 😅 Edit: with the nerf to uppercut and its variants I’d even use it over both of them.
@Mr.Ford3350
Ай бұрын
The handcannons are so great right now, I love them. Even the Lemat's shotgun feels excellent this patch
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
yup even the lemat shotgun can not be underestimated anymore, great changes
@beardedhoser
Ай бұрын
Great video. I really appreciate this tier list. I am always bouncing secondary options around so this definitely helps.
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
I am glad! Hope it helps or shows you some new secondaries to try!
@beardedhoser
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy it will help. It will be my new cheat sheet….😂🤣
@andrez1866
23 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree with putting Bornheim match in the S tier. I play on console (where sharpshooters are very rare) and always go with incendiary ammo on this one and I can't remember how many times people got two-tapped in a split second and panicked because they are on fire and then died to the third follow-up shot (if they are not within the range to die to the second shot already).
@Whityyy
23 күн бұрын
Bornheim is such a menace people are 100% sleeping on it
@dankmemer5699
Ай бұрын
4:38 Bornheim doesn't use stripper clips, unlike the mosin and dolch. Stripper clips, like the name says, are just strips of metal to hold the rounds in place in order to put them in faster, mosin and dolch can work just fine without stripper clips. Borheim uses an En Bloc magazine like berthier, and would not work without it, but it's a bit fudged in hunt since it should work exactly like berthier does. You can just call it a magazine tbh
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
noted!
@DarrenRoberts123
Ай бұрын
Really like these lists and hearing pros and cons. Maybe one for tools, consumables and traits too
@tueddy2539
Ай бұрын
Very well structured video - super informative. Need to actually play more trueshot now!
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
I appreciate that tueddy 🙏🙏🙏
@Helldragon789
Ай бұрын
Fantastic video Good and concise information. I always enjoy hearing peoples opinions. Is it safe to assume that for dualies the placement of the 1-slot pistols translates pretty 1 to 1?
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
appreciate that! the best dualwielding pistols in my opinion are conversions and trueshot
@rollingslothmachine3431
Ай бұрын
The pistols Dolch and Bornheim gain a not insignificant advantage with their much faster reload time when dual wielding thanks to their stripper clips. The chain pistol also fairs a bit better dual wielded, because in that case you are more or less spamming anyway and the much greater ammo pool helps significantly not to run out of bullets to fast. You also have to consider, that you can't use fanning while dual wielding, so in that case, double action revolvers like the officer and new army, as well as the pistols, stand out with a higher fire rate compared to the single action revolvers.
@nageshngu4088
29 күн бұрын
I've been using mosin obrez drum for quiet some time it really is amazing with 25 bullets we can use incendiary ammo and spitzer ammo as well 🎉🔥
@justvid366
Ай бұрын
I asked for this, and you made it!
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
WE DID
@MrTinman712
Ай бұрын
Fun fact, after testing in the range, the uppercut precision incorrectly shows 65m as drop off range, its actually 55
@dtm20004
Ай бұрын
Did they ever normalize Draw times for handguns, or is it still semi-arbitary, like how the officer draws faster than the new army?? Like I get the Uppercut drawing slower than the basic Conversion, but the unlisted drawtimes being different without clear reason is evil 💀💀
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
they never did, still slower afaik
@rollingslothmachine3431
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your work. I do have to say though, that some of your evaluations of the weapons are pretty surface level and therefore don't fit the tiers you put them in. For example, the LeMat/Haymaker shotguns are way to good atm, which combined with their unique tool like capabilities (dragonbreath for burning hunters), should warrant them both a slot higher in the tier list, in my opinion. The Rival handcannon is also one of the best medium slot shotguns, exactly because of what you named as it's supposed drawback. If you don't one tap with the rival, you can *immediately* doubletap, which almost guarantees a kill, even with flechette. The bow also does not get enough credit from you, as it is not only a good tool and great anti ai weapon, but also a very strong close to medium range weapon, if you practice a bit with it. There is a reason many people play it at the moment. Since you've put the Scottfield swift at a high tier with the caveat of it needing fanning (an 8 point trait), the needed two point trait for the bow should not give it a lower rating, as far as your own reasoning is concerned. On the other hand, as much as I love my romero hatchet, it is definitively not an s tier weapon. You claim if you miss a shot with it, the fight is already over anyway (which is not necessarily true), but that only accounts for 1 on 1 fights. In 2 or 3 on 1 situations, about every other medium shotgun is better then the romero. That is, unless you manage to kill the other enemies with the hatchet, but that requires skill and a bit of luck, since the meelee range is very short with the romero hatchet. Still an overall good video and helpful for new players.
@Parkourjumper1
28 күн бұрын
Hey, ur vids are so good :) What do you think about Centenial silencer with bleed ammo and Bornheim match as sekondary? i can do alot of kills with the centenial in solo vs trio but my loadout lacks a short range answer if I get ambushed.
@JorgeLTE
Ай бұрын
Love these Tierlists!! One thing, the LeMat got skipped. Could you write you thoughts here? I'm very curious about how it performs this patch.
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
Will add a pinned messaged after stream! Sadly missed that while editing
@Potironche
Ай бұрын
What do you think about melee weapon as sidearm ? Where would you rank the katana for exemple ? Great video
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
personally I'd put them in the "fun-tier" great for bosses but when it comes to pvp it's more relying on your enemies doing goofy stuff/mistakes. I play the katana occasionaly to have fun but I don't run it when I am planning on winning
@rollingslothmachine3431
Ай бұрын
The katana is hands down the best meelee weapon, thanks to its unique trait, which gives it an edge compared to the rest. The berserker event trait also makes meelee weapons pretty viable against bosses. The one big caviat being, that nothing beats the spear at the moment. It does as much damage as any meelee weapon, if not more, but can also be thrown and only takes a tool slot, instead of a weapon slot. So until crytek nerfs the spear, there is not realy a reason to use a meelee weapon, unless you need your tool slots for something else and still want a potent hitter.
@TallyHoBr0
Ай бұрын
These are surely a pain in the ass, so thanks for making them for us noobs!
@Roberta-yf4ge
Ай бұрын
Honestly everything is on point but i do think you underate the scottfield precision since it got some serious buffs to its rate of fire. Just belongs in C above the nagant though
@Tsunamiieh
20 күн бұрын
will there soon be a best pistol tierlist?
@saltypirateHSD
25 күн бұрын
RIP uppercut, most of the time i wont even pick it up after winning a team fight 😵. GGWP nice vid. 🏴☠
@laurenz6760
Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this one!
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
and here it is!
@ambidexmed
Ай бұрын
@22:50 the pop up text says 390 with hv. It should say fmj.
@DemonTime08
Ай бұрын
Bornheim marksman with incendiary ammo is my choice of secondary it gives a better iron sight and more stable incendiary help the damage a bit it works just fine I use it with the bow
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
bornheim match is such an amazing secondary
@JeremiahR2461
25 күн бұрын
Im probably missing something, but where is the haymaker?
@Chickenburger-2
Ай бұрын
do you like akimbo pistols?
@gangstersnow
Ай бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything except Scottfield precision, i use it with dumdum with my shotguns and have like a 80% winrate with the loadout. Feels very strong to me, and i almost never used the spitfire before the update so its like like im just used to the weapon. But outside of my shotgun loadouts, almost always use pax trueshot, and the occasional hand crossbow.
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
Like I said every gun works if you make it work but for example you could use a centennial shorty dumdum or drilling with dumdum and probably get equal or better results
@cymbolicjedi
Ай бұрын
Im exited to get the old maps back because i feel like meta could now be kinda dependent on the map your on
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
I think the guns are gonna be equally good but it's gonna be very interesting how the map dynamic changes with bullet drop etc
@cymbolicjedi
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy the bullet drop is more what I was thinking about, not going to be as much of a factor in the bayou as it is in the mountains making long ammo more viable, and shotguns are going to be disgusting in those close quarters compounds
@searching4skill33
Ай бұрын
Thank you !
@fluid8888
Ай бұрын
Dear Crytek, Please buff the uppercut!
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
dear dennis this year for christmas I would like an uppercut buff
Why is Scottfield in d but pax in a when they are essentially the same gun
@Qit_qt
Ай бұрын
Scofield has slower ,bullet worse fanning and a lot more recoil .
@broski8944
Ай бұрын
so you're saying if I exclusively play S tier I'm winning? >:)
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
BIG WINNING
@DaComrade
Ай бұрын
He's not just saying. He's absolutely guaranteeing it! Or your money back!
@Chainsawwed
Ай бұрын
Scottfield Precision in G tier?
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
pretty much
@flawless_cowboy1
Ай бұрын
The bow in b tier? I had great success with the bow i would easily rank it in at least A tier
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
I don't think the bow is that effective once u move into the higher elo brackets and people know how to play around it since it has a lot of movement limitations
@zexedearth89
Ай бұрын
Basically it comes to Hunt : Spamdown, sadly But it is what it is, haha. Great video bud!
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
ye more spam 100%
@zigamoot
Ай бұрын
🐐
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
ZIGAGOAT!
@hilkmeister1382
24 күн бұрын
New Army is better than the Officer. Officer is worse in every stat except muzzle velocity, which for a dolch substitute pistol is the least important stat as shots will almost certainly be within ranges where the muzzle velocity is irrelevant (and if not then why are you picking a fight with a long rifle with a compact pistol at long range?). It has better upsides in Rate of Fire and damage which are both what you want for a dolch substitute. The damage difference is small, only 6 points, but that is enough to make an arm+torso a kill rather than requiring a 3rd shot like the officer would. 2 more things, 1 the Bornheim match sucks and 2 it is nonsensical that the Springfield striker is WORSE than the compact according to you. To why the match sucks, damage dropoff. Unless you hit the head you will need 3-4 shots at any range beyond 30 meters, which puts it in an awful niche where it wants to have range but no so much as to make you spend a whole mag downing 1 guy. Even then I have never WANTED to bring a match especially over a handcannon, dolchP, or Obrez. That is only when compared to other 2 slot weapons, when compared to 1 or 3 slot weapons it is even worse as it loses to New Army, Officer, Dolch, or Fanning. At range it loses the medium range fight to Winfields or the Officer Carbine. The matches niche is supposed to be a 2 slot officer carbine yet loses to a regular officer pistol at range and close, and can not hold a candle to a rifle at meaningful range (unlike your other S tiers that are not shotguns). Finally, the Striker Springfield is just a Springfield Compact with a discount knife attached to it. The melee is not supposed to be a PvP weapon but a PvE tool for dealing with AI on a budget as a knife costs 30 compared to the extra 10 of the striker over a compact. The reason that matters is because if you are willing buying a Springfield compact then that saved 20 bucks means a lot. At worse they are the same gun as for rich hunters the 10 bucks is a right off and doesn’t negatively affect the weapon’s performance. Doesn’t mean the Striker is better than the Compact; only that it is neither is definitively worse.
@S_Philipp
Ай бұрын
I like the bow, but it always trolls me in cqc. I hit in the arm consistently and consistently get demolished by shotguns. I would love limb penetration on bows, xbows and hand xbows
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
would be nice or simply arm shots to deal more damage in general
@S_Philipp
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy rainbow six siege fixed this issue giving armshots the same damage than torso, but I think limb penetration is a better fix for this
@Maeda_Rogue
Ай бұрын
bornheim m is Best
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
bornheim is king
@mateobadajoz
Ай бұрын
Centennial shorty silencer is clearly a S+ tiier dude.. is being silent what gives you the S
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
ah man can't argue with that
@sordieo
Ай бұрын
Officer is my least favorite gun on this list
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
the officer definetly can be weird at times
@sordieo
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy I can't get hits markers with it so I don't use it anymore
@demonsdoe6431
Ай бұрын
New army talked about twice, lemat not talked about. Slight editing error i guess
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
ye I screwed up, must have missed it. I will add a pinned comment later. Basically lemat has good fanning, great velocity and a solid shotgun
@demonsdoe6431
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy all good man, great informative video anyways. Love the content
@mohnkuchenzentrale
Ай бұрын
Centennial Silence only C Tier? I am mildly disappointed xD. Just jokin :))
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
c-tier is not terrible! haha
@mohnkuchenzentrale
Ай бұрын
@@Whityyy not great not terrible :D
@brdynali
Ай бұрын
comment tax !
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
comment tax paid
@achop980
Ай бұрын
scottfield brawler should be A tier with the spitfire since its the same with just knuckles attached
@shredgordon3240
Ай бұрын
Unless they changed it since release, the scottfield brawler has the same fire rate as the base scottfield.
@fezguuy
Ай бұрын
The brawler has a significantly slower fire rate when compared to the spitfire. I think it shares the same fire rate as the base Scottfield which is why for most people it is outclassed by the spitfire with its better general fighting capabilities
@Whityyy
Ай бұрын
the brawler actually still has lower fire rate than the spitfire to my knowledge. It looks like a spitfire but is not
@achop980
Ай бұрын
Oh wow, I’m a dummy. Ty for the info guys, explains why I’ve always played like shit with it lolol happy hunting
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