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@clinton9129
Жыл бұрын
Any updates on the Apollo?
@GoodmanMIke59
10 ай бұрын
@@clinton9129I believe he made an update video. I will find the link and attached, but apparently the case is now plastic, all but eliminating the chance for shocked.
@JonathonVasquez
Жыл бұрын
Finally a solar battery that requires zero maintenance for the rest of the buyers life.
@Isaacmantx
Жыл бұрын
However short it may be…..
@ryanyoder7573
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t get it until the end.
@Rotativo25
Жыл бұрын
😂 Savage
@Version135
Жыл бұрын
Excellent job
@largepimping
Жыл бұрын
Well played, sir.
@jimmurphy5355
Жыл бұрын
The 10 meg ohm input impedance of your voltmeter tells you the open circuit potential, but not the available current. It takes only a few microamps to create a harmless but alarming shock sensation. I urge you to test again with something like a 1 kilo ohm 1/4 watt resistor across the input of your voltmeter. That will essentially turn it into an ammeter that reads 1 volt per milliamp. If the leakage current is only a few microamps to a milliamp or so, I would not regard that as dangerous. My suspicion is that the MPPT converter in the unit is capacitively coupling its high voltage, high frequency switching waveform to the chassis. This is a common issue because the power switching devices are screwed to a heatsink of some kind and that can act as an antenna that couples the rapidly changing voltage on the switching devices to nearby chassis parts. Only a tiny trickle through the air - but enough to measure and feel, especially if you panel string is high voltage. Were your panel frames grounded? Was either the positive or negative lead of the high voltage DC grounded? The Hysolis units - were they grounded in any way? On rubber wheels, with no AC mains connection, I suspect not. Maybe all that is needed to make sure the units can't have voltage on the outside it a bit of grounding, somewhere....
@chadseld
Жыл бұрын
This is what I was thinking but you said it better. You can measure high floating voltages with lots of electronic devices. But if Will was able to feel the shock as something greater than static, that would indicate more current than I was thinking. I would love to investigate this further.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what me and my friend were thinking about the mppt. And I should test the amperage. Smart idea with the resistor. I'll have to test that carefully tomorrow. Good idea I just connected AC input to grid without solar a few minutes ago, getting 58 volts AC between expansion battery and main unit on the non-faulty one. So one has leakage from MPPT circuit like you mentioned, and would make sense, and other one has something else going on.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
All the panels are grounded because they are laying on the concrete slab and it's wet. Even when dry I measure some leakage from them. I actually connect those arrays to an isolated input on a victron for this reason. I have measured the leakage across my concrete slab multiple times. One time I had a solar panel that was leaking a lot of current and it was causing a buzzing on the ground array frame. That was fun to figure out. With another array connected I had less voltage but it was still present. I also checked the wires and installation and connections first.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Oh good point about the heat sink that's very true. My friend has a device for finding these issues. We are going to try to hook it up and see where it sparks.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
The hysolis is on rubber wheel platform. In the first thing I disconnected was the AC input to see if it persisted. Because I knew that would be a solid ground connection and the leakage to the concrete it would travel through.
@lightitrun5209
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Will, I'm glad you're still with us. Looks like you'll be adding a few more safety checks during testing. I know the 40 volt shock I got while testing the hook up on my solar array wasn't pleasant. Between your shock(s) and the no-fire fire of that one battery you tested.... let's just say your community of followers and supporters need you to stay safe. Appreciate you taking one for the team. Ralos.
@AntonioCunningham
Жыл бұрын
Second this!
@thinkcasting3182
Жыл бұрын
Careful, kids.
@lamoe11
Жыл бұрын
And this is the type of solid information that keeps us all coming back to your channel. Thank you.
@_Seagie
Жыл бұрын
Will Prowse out here saving lives...... pay attention 💯
@Rotativo25
Жыл бұрын
It's extremely refreshing to get sincere and honest reviews. We need more of this in this world. Thanks, Will. Keep up the great work.
@isaicarranza6972
Жыл бұрын
Since you are always taking the right steps to not get shocked, never really thought about a scenario like this. Will be praying for safety while doing your videos.
@QuantumMarmalade
Жыл бұрын
His PV array isn't grounded 🤦
@jajabinks92123
Жыл бұрын
Yep, u always have to ground it. Plus, any testing on a system like this ( with live DC from Solar/PV Panel, DC from battery, and potential for any AC/DC from inverter or transformers...not to mention the juice in any capacitors...u have to take safety measures While multimeter testing....by plugging in a 3 prong grounded extension cord in a properly grounded household outlet & putting the other end in your pocket. The shock will travel from your body to the grounded extension cord safely. * Also I'm assuming your elbows were bent & the shocked / current passed thru your elbows. At that amount of current (Amperes) if one of your elbows was straight (as in reaching full extension) the current would have traveled straight down your arm to your heart...and it can potentially stop your heart / kill. Lucky. Stay safe sir 🙏 It's good ur safe and alive to tell about this unacceptable voltage leak...by just touching it some exterior screws. Maybe isolate those screws or put non conductive covers/ caps on em. Maybe some non-conductive shielding or farad wrap shielding installed by manufacturer would make it safer. Portable systems... need to remember...need to be grounded to the Earth or to a an AC ground wire ( not chassis vehicle ground). Keep safe.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
It was grounded actually. Doesn't prevent leakage from MPPT circuit that's at higher potential than inverter output. Also I'm finding difference of potential between expansion battery and main unit without PV connected and ground connected with AC input. So it has problems
@tujuprojects
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse you almost got fried by hosed sunshine.
@jajabinks92123
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse Good to know👍 Glad u discovered this very potential Hazzard to people. Please keep safe sir🖖🙏
@gussiegus4943
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Sorry you were shocked, but glad it wasn’t worse. Hopefully they will fix the issue and improve their quality control processes so this doesn’t happen again!
@DustinWyatt
Жыл бұрын
Man, I was getting so pumped for these as I watched the first part of the video. Then my dreams were crushed!
@AntonioCunningham
Жыл бұрын
Same here. I thought I was satisfied with my current setup, but this once had my wallet preparing to argue with me... But my hype quickly vanished when safety became an issue. I really hope they sort these issues out.
@Forevertrue
Жыл бұрын
Will Prowse saves lives!! Thanks, Will! A new guy like me, dying for a system like this, would not have caught that. I hope they get back to you with one that is fixed, I would still be interested.
@QuantumMarmalade
Жыл бұрын
Actually, properly grounding your PV array saves lives...
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
PV array is grounded fine and there is a different array connected. Also, getting difference of potential right now without PV connected at all. See my community post. it's not my array, and that was the first thing I checked. And it should be isolated regardless
@baxs5076
Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumMarmalade Never tire of being wrong?
@brentkucera7858
Жыл бұрын
EcoFlow Delta 2 now has a “lab feature” that turns the AC inverter on automatically if it turns off due to a drained battery, then turns on automatically when solar input is available again.
@scotturner3178
Жыл бұрын
Careful Will! Safety should consist of multiple layers, any one of which is enough to protect you. One layer of safety is never enough, even if it's a strong layer.
@7RiversHomestead
Жыл бұрын
I have come so close to purchasing this unit but I kept putting it off until I could see your review. I am so thankful I waited but man am I disappointed! It is so unfortunate to have such an amazing unit that checks all the box and to have such a major failure. Thanks for your review and I really hope Hysolis gets this issue figured out.
@mega-hb4re
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I’ll stick to blueetti or eco flow as they are excellent proven quality
@Mobiltelekomnet
Жыл бұрын
and anker
@dominique___1980
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. LOVE the response from Hysolis. Wishing them all the best in sorting this. Please do keep us updated on how it goes. I'm also super excited to put this in the off-grid home I'm planning.
@Jasonoid
Жыл бұрын
The newly announced Bluetti EP900 goes up to 9000w of solar with a solar voltage of 500v input. It was pretty cool to see at CES! I hope you get to test that one as well!
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Good point. May need to stick to bluetti and eco flows for a while. Oh man I wish I could have met you! That place was overwhelming to say the least 😂
@ryanyoder7573
Жыл бұрын
Love to have 9000w beast with zero product support and nobody answering the phones. Lol.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanyoder7573 😂😂😂 so true
@Jasonoid
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse I had a chance to meet with some engineers from EcoFlow and I am super impressed with what's in thier pipeline. I'm sure Bluetti is also working on some great stuff but they do need to improve their customer support!! I was hoping to run into you while I was down there since you live in Vegas! haha Maybe next year!
@ryanyoder7573
Жыл бұрын
Did you guys see the 8 bit guy. I found you two from his solar work. Now I’m hooked on solar.
@coyotesden
Жыл бұрын
Shocking Video! But seriously glad you are ok.
@steventompkins4362
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Will. This one especially. After viewing your video and reading the comments below I realized I didn't have a clear understanding of phantom or ghost voltages. Upon researching this I learned my Fluke 117 has a loZ setting for measuring this exact thing. Actually, i knew the setting was there but didn't understand what it was for. KZitem has a couple of good explainer videos for the Fluke 117 AutoV LoZ. Once again you have expanded my knowledge! Thanks Will.
@attiliojorge2765
Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable that there is 180 volts. That’s just crazy! Thanks for the review and be safe man.
@HeyMichaelLeo
Жыл бұрын
I completely expected there to be issues, to many great features, and you my friend are their trouble shooter. I'm very glad you were cautious, we need you around and healthy to continue making your videos 😄
@kenzieduckmoo
Жыл бұрын
"the problem with troubleshooting, is that sometimes trouble shoots back"
@4philipp
Жыл бұрын
That’s what we get for removing that Ground connector…snicker…
@andrewakrause
Жыл бұрын
These things just look dead sexy - like mid-century electronic test equipment.
@DIYSolarEnergy
Жыл бұрын
They remind me of the old Heathkit Ham Radio Equipment from the 1970's, which I own a few.
@xsauce3858
Жыл бұрын
Apollo lunar capsule ?
@andrewakrause
Жыл бұрын
@@DIYSolarEnergy This. Or that one Mac workstation from the 2000s.
@ryanyoder7573
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is fallout shelter gold.
@mikemotorbike4283
Жыл бұрын
It just needs a big honkin' dial gauge like an old battery charger. Red means low.
@KarlKarsnark
Жыл бұрын
"Don't judge a book by it's cover." Thanks for the honest review. Hopefully, the company will learn from this and fix it asap.
@indycharlie
Жыл бұрын
WOW !! I hope Hysolis is calling and emailing anybody who bought one of these !
@williamnigh5979
Жыл бұрын
An unbelievable product, one shipped to a customer with a potenial to kill. How did this product pass the required government tests? As a retired engineer, I learned early about the principle of first do no harm. Incredible. Will, may you live long and prosper. Bill
@thomasjohnson6165
Жыл бұрын
Love how you dig in and find out the issues, minute man is a good watch too for many low levels of experience in solar, great video brother
@murrat
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Good response from the vendor. Hope they get this fixed soon and repair their reputation. Love the form factor and wheels option.
@Glocktard
Жыл бұрын
#1 I love the truth, thank you. Glade to also hear you talk with others like Ben from minute man prep, he also seems honest.
@TheTopCat650
Жыл бұрын
💜 thank you for your honest reviews 💕
@dig1035
Жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok William, glad you're there to save us from dangerous flaws! This is the difference between your skills and the others. Mad skills Wil!
@davef.2329
Жыл бұрын
Will, you may well have saved someone's life. Good on you!! Thanks for the wring-out.
@bdv861
Жыл бұрын
When Lake Mead runs dry and Hoover Dam's generators come to a stop, Will Prowse can supply the city of Las Vegas with all the power it needs.
@stuff3661
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will! Glad you're not hurt!!! I have one of these on order, I hope they get it fixed BEFORE it ships.
@Intellistan
Жыл бұрын
Now we're talking. Finally something that saves people the unnecessary hassle. I've been waiting for something like this. Sorry you were put in a dangerous position man.. I hope that company can get it together.
@teagueman100
Жыл бұрын
Very pretty casing. Looks so sci-fi. Shame about the current leak though. Having said that my Mpp Solar inverter had the same problem till I used a true earth ground.
@srf2112
Жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm glad you're ok. That is scary bad.
@DEADB33F
Жыл бұрын
Looks like this it has a lot of potential. ....in more ways than one.
@ProspectorTripp
Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy.. Deadly shockingly Crazy? Dang Will, you had me excited about this unit. It’s Super Easy to advertise these features.. and not to dang difficult to design in these basic features and functions? It’s Not Rocket Surgery! It blows me away that this thing got out the door? Function testing? Nope QA testing? Nope Safety testing? Nope Glad you are still kicking Will. Peace Prospector Tripp
@VarkaTheDragon
Жыл бұрын
Good job on giving the straight info - I'm sure they'll fix it, but that sort of issue shouldn't have made it through for an adequately tested product. Imagine if a Victron unit had done that - you'd be livid!
@FilAmGabe
Жыл бұрын
It's a great start for sure, just got a little excited for the launch.
@AppaTalks
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to start checking all new toys with a voltage leak test before I really get my hands dirty from now on!
@RimdarRanch
Жыл бұрын
Just curious if you had ANY problem getting a refund ?? WOW ! Sorry to hear about your close call with DEATH.
@JWTX
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's disappointing, iknow how excited you and minute man prep were.. Hopefully they will make the necessary changes. It has a lot of great potential...
@deanmcbride8747
Жыл бұрын
I think I'll stick to my ecoflow delta pro 3600 with an extra battery. The unit you showed in video sounded so good until you say you got shocked by it. Take care Sparky. Love these videos you do. Dean 🇬🇧 🙏
@antronx7
Жыл бұрын
Will just discovered the importance of case earth bonding in high voltage power systems. This is part of a reason why all AC mains powered metal cased appliances have a ground pin on the AC plug.
@kele1264
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've saved lives with this video, Will! Awesome work!
@arebear4797
Жыл бұрын
You put your life for us sir. That is oustanding.
@petenelson8136
Жыл бұрын
Next video title "Houston we have a problem" :-) Glad you didn't get injured, and thanks for all you do for this community.
@iditarod4081
Жыл бұрын
used to watch you prehoax seems like you've come a long way much bigger systems. Still the same will though glad you're still making vids. You can do anything you want to in life
@thepricelife2374
Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thanks Will. Maybe make a separate caution video explaining what you said at the end. We get excited to try something new, and trust that the products are going to be great. So we let our guard down and that can lead to accidents. You made a great point about that. Perhaps that warrants a video all on its own, a cautionary tale. Every system that can produce 120v AC has the potential to injure or kill someone. So even a 12v system, from the inverter on the 120v ac side has that potential. You are great at explaining these complex issues in a way that is easy to understand. Would be a great safety video for beginners who are excited about building their new systems. Thank you for all you do! -J
@budmartin3344
Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to hear the feedback from the manufacturer ASAP. I guess you will be adding another safety test step on your next review. You may want to have leakage tester for your lab.
@snarlbug
Жыл бұрын
I've seen this exact thing before in a tiny solar system I made using an APC SmartUPS. Solution there was to tie the battery negative to the AC ground of the output.
@arminius301
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, good thing it was a close call and not fatal! I guess it's always wise to treat a gun as if it's loaded. These high amp, high voltage generators may seem harmless but can make you cash in your chips at any moment when you're gambling. You may have saved someone from cardiac arrest by posting this video and also saved the manufacturer from having their asses sued off! Hope they will fix this asap and update all their inventory and send out warning notices to all buyers, recall the sold devices and fix them! Be safe!
@yougeekyou
Жыл бұрын
Please do a follow-up vid when you get some resolution from the mfg. I'm sure they won't let this lie and future units will fix the ground faults.
@Ambrovious
Жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't get hurt! Please do a follow up video after you speak with the manufacturer. Even if it's just a short.
@kenzieduckmoo
Жыл бұрын
If one company does something, then others cant be too far behind. I imagine this company will likely fix whatever leakage there is, but also companies like bluetti and jackery cant be too far behind.
@billsherman6129
Жыл бұрын
Many electrical systems/controls need to have a configurable rule re: what to do when power is restored. Should allow "stay off", "turn on", or set to pre-outage status.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@44beebe
Жыл бұрын
Stay safe. Thanks for the video
@all4uminers587
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 you have prevented many injuries from happening ❤❤❤❤
@sandrofermante
Жыл бұрын
😱 happy for you. Good luck for the next test!
@jamesmoore6424
Жыл бұрын
Wow, love your reviews and also that you've pointed it out to the manufacturer and they have come out and said they'll fix it!!!
@MrJanaRobi
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you are putting this stuff out there .
@DarrLaw
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Speechless. Like you said, Will, these look great. They look premium; they have premium features. They get your guard down, and then ZAP! Thanks for what you do! Stay safe!
@phlogistanjones2722
Жыл бұрын
I am SOOOO happy you are alright. I did ***NOT*** want to read that you had been injured by one of your testing subjects. At the beginning of the video I too was VERY excited about the stats on this device. Too bad about it being deadly.... jeez.
@mossymaple
Жыл бұрын
I AM GREATFUL TO GOD YOU ARE OK
@michaelberger8990
Жыл бұрын
Wow, nice looking units, but I agree with your testing... It could potentially literally " shock the living s*** out of you. One of these units would run my camper for a hell of a long time... With a touch of solar to recharge... Would like to see a secondary review from your channel, as you continue testing this beast...
@busyguy7479
Жыл бұрын
you are really good at catching something like this kinda sounds like a floating neutral not sure but u do an amazing job kudos to you . what u discovered most likely saved someone from a nasty shock or worse.
@shockracer
Жыл бұрын
I thought this was clickbait until the end, wow, just wow.
@reviews2you
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're OK!
@AskIveSolar
Жыл бұрын
Holy Hanson @ getting shocked. That's bananas!! Sheesh. Such a powerful unit to have that kinda issue.
@junkemboxx8313
Жыл бұрын
good video Will. as a reminder, even experts can get caught. as someone who works with HV power supplies, transmitters and amplifiers, we sometimes get complacent. all it takes is some sort of resistance to 'elevate' ground and now you're dealing with a hot case. Great reminder.
@MS-ie1gs
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being the test dummy!! You likely saved many lives!!!
@SheridanAtwood-bd3ks
11 ай бұрын
I am SO GLAD that you honestly reviewed the dangers of this Apollo5k, as I was thinking it to be superior to the Titan and now I wonder if they have corrected the problem by now…otherwise the Titan is still the way to go…
@bretoster6091
Жыл бұрын
Another nice and informative video Will. It was looking "the goods" there for a while. Cheers.
@carlosberrio2206
Жыл бұрын
Hi Will , I follow you for several years even though my English is just fair, but know nothing about electricity. I learned a lot from your videos . I was concerned about you lying your arms on this device, and coincidentally just happened., I was going to call your attention on this matters since this kit looks metalíc in the outside. Hope they fix the problem cause I been looking for a kit like this , not just for emergency’s but to have permanently hooked off grid,.. happy New Year and again big thanks.
@mikemotorbike4283
Жыл бұрын
yeah i sure hope will isn't vaxed, because it's all like "Static causes sudden death. Doctors baffled."
@theheathkitshop2424
Жыл бұрын
You need to add to your collection of test gear a good old Simpson 260, 20K input analog multimeter-THE standard for electricians for decades. A typical 200M input meter can read voltage across your fingers with a quarter between them. Slightly off subject. I installed 8kW of used solar panels in a grid tie application. When it would rain or get foggy out, the SolareEdge inverters would fault. The inverters would sense a 'isolation' error and shut down. Long story short. The used panels leaked so much current that you could read 18 volts from either lead to the frame. There as enough current that you could light a car's tail light bulb! Had to remove used panels and put in brand new ones. The old used panels ended up in the battery storage array where their leakage isn't a issue. Be safe!
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Good suggestion
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
And yes I've found leakage on used panels. Not fun
@paulpowers9329
Жыл бұрын
glad your ok man
@Asavent
Жыл бұрын
This is a game changer. Wow, I watched to the end after I posted and was surprised to see the conclusion. Needs some improvement after all.
@shawnplude5841
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful videos I live in Las Vegas and I am just getting into solar for off grid application
@vhfgamer
Жыл бұрын
The shocks that kill people are the shocks that come from the least expected place. Of course. Who in their right mind would mess with something they KNOW will shock them? One time I got nailed across the heart went I was fixing a flat panel TV. I touched the heatsink of an IC, and the metal chassis of the television. ZAP! Turns out the heatsink for that ic had around 65 volts AC on it. Sure scared me more than it could have killed me, that's for sure.
@theboo222
Жыл бұрын
This will be perfect once they sort out that whole killing you if you touch it thing. ⚡☠
@mikecaster4612
Жыл бұрын
They added AI self defense...
@azroseazlang9995
9 ай бұрын
Thumbs up for getting shocked and not crying 😭
@RicoCantrell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info brother . Maybe the competition will catch-up. Minus the shock.
@vernonwebb1449
Жыл бұрын
Stay smart Stay Safe
@johnbodnar3720
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will, brilliant system, unfortunately there is a problem, this will happen, to recover from it is the most important thing. The manufacturer has come to the party, this is impressive.
@AFutureOf
Жыл бұрын
Glad you managed not to get hurt Will
@stephenfuller2936
Жыл бұрын
Hey Will, big fan of the channel and been around on several youtube accounts for awhile. Interestingly enough, I had the same ground leakage issue on one of the eg4 6500ex inverters. It was eventually warrantied and I have a new one that works. In fact it's flawless. First one shocked me when I would lay my forearm across it or touch certain areas. I thought for sure I did something wrong... but my electrician (commercial electrician) and I verified everything was fine. We couldn't figure out why there was voltage potential across different parts of the body of the inverter. Super scary.
@stephenfuller2936
Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of eg4 and respect them 110% but perhaps there needs to be some standard operating procedures / standard installation procedures / standard user safety procedures because inverters are becoming more and more dangerous with the increased PV voltage IMO. It's necessary but safety blatantly falling behind in these Chinese circuits.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
No way!!! That's Awful :( what is your PV array configuration? What kind of solar panels?
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
And yes I agree
@stephenfuller2936
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse At the time, I was using 6 Trina Solar TSM-250PA05 in series. I was upgrading from the LVM-es 3000 growatt that has the 250 VOC limit. When I was testing the unit, the panels were on the ground outside on a large concrete slab similar to how you've set some up in the past. Decided on that since it was quick and easy to check connections without having to climb all over my roof or ground mount array. Regardless, I thought I was crazy. Actually had no Idea that this was an issue on inverter circuits until I went around the forums. I was measuring all kinds of weird potentials. Like probes on the case of the unit a few inches away from each other was 15-20 volts and other places it was 50. This was back in June 2022 and I know some revisions were made to the units since and my current one is great, except it has the error 61 issue. Thankfully, I'm using DIY LiFePO4 cells so it's a non-issue for me.
@FixLife119
Жыл бұрын
I was shocked! Well technically you were shocked, but I couldn't believe it! How they would let it roll out like that. I'm curious if it has a UL sticker on it. Also curious if the addition of that removable ground point could have had a hand in this?
@katsshibainus3258
Жыл бұрын
I watched Min Man's vids on it. Guess I will wait until they fix these problems.
@wut255
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing what you do help everyone. Stay safe.
@rizano7066
Жыл бұрын
Wow I'm glad you're okay.
@BlkFireHawk427
Жыл бұрын
Damn!... We were Almost there with what we are all looking for. I was about to put my Eco Flo Delta Pro on hold.
@tomg721
Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that a manufacturer could release a product like that. Hope they have a good legal team
@brianm1916
Жыл бұрын
Good luck suing China
@pep5772
Жыл бұрын
They're based in California and have excellent customer service
@StopTheBurn
Жыл бұрын
Equipment standing, rolling, or sitting on a rack should be grounded before you test anything. Check that new equipment is properly grounded to the case and connected to the building ground. Also, check leakage to the building ground with the power on and off. Stay safe, guys.
@Nicedesk
Жыл бұрын
Will may have saved some lives. Thank you!! Crazy that a company would ship an potentially lethal product with so little testing.
@rlcarbo
Жыл бұрын
Wow, this product review was shocking! But seriously … great job! Thanks for all your hard work!
@leochen4891
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and be safe.
@simon359
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Glad your safe! 🖖
@billjohnson3344
Жыл бұрын
There has to be another path to complete the circuit in your concrete test - seems like outside your solar panels must have a + or - short to earth in some fashion - and not truly floating. You also said this leakage happens with the MPPT usage - and you only have solar on the first unit (the one with the problem) - correct? Seems like you have a wiring fault with your solar, which is causing this issue. The leakage seems there, not in the unit.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
The panels are lying on the ground, that's why it's present in the concrete. And yes the panels have some leakage. Haven't found which one is doing it. Should be a isolated input like victron regardless.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
I have measured leakage across my concrete slab with my solar panels. One of my panels was leaking really bad. I did swap that one out. It was buzzing.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot to mention a few minutes ago I tested for potential on case and it was present when no solar panels are connected and only the grid was connected. So I guess it's not just the solar charge controller. And this was on the non-faulty unit
@billjohnson3344
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse Good you found the bad panel and source of the large leakage. As some others as mentioned, the AC on the case (with unit ungrounded) is going to be pretty typical. Unless you know how much current is possible to flow from the case to earth, measuring the voltage difference between the case and somewhere else is bound to have a potential - just super high impedance. If you ground this (plug it in), this of course goes away. There is a reason those other all-in-one floating setups from Ecoflow and others are encased in plastic. If you measure the actual chassis on those, I suspect you'll see similar things.
@skydivekrazy76
Жыл бұрын
Jesus, I was excited. I was about to look up buying and pricing options... Not now! Screw that! I like living more then I like backup power!
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