Radahn does seem to have the dutiful first born son energy, Rykard the weird middle child, and Ranni the overindulged youngest, but I would also not be shocked by literally any other order.
@thally4061
Жыл бұрын
Radahn in his prime didn't give a fuck about Rykard because he was dumb and got eaten by a dumb serpent that didn't do anything in that world worth anything.
@metroplexprime9901
Жыл бұрын
I personally think it's the opposite order. Ranni is the perfect, untouchable firstborn child. Not only is she a powerful moon sorceress, she is one of the people that could have replaced Marika and she most likely would be the next ruler of Caria. Rykard is definitely the weird middle child. Smart enough to make some neat sorceries, but literally fed himself to a snake for power. Radahn, I feel, is the neglected youngest child. His perfect older sister was set to be the next god of the lands between and his older brother had struck out on his own and made his own type of sorcery, but Radahn was either uninterested in magic to that degree or simply wasn't as magically gifted as his siblings. And so, he was ignored in favor of them. It would at least explain his lack of overt ties to his mother and siblings and how at least some of his deal is spiting his father (wears his red hair proudly instead of feeling it is shameful, uses the lion imagery of Godfrey). That, or they're fraternal triplets. Honestly, given how many weird births there are in elden ring, a set of triplets wouldn't be surprising.
@drazzytime9353
Жыл бұрын
@@metroplexprime9901 he was interested in magic enough to Master Gravity magic. People really downplay how hard MASTERING a type of magic is without losing yourself completely. Especially magic to do with space where outer gods and the primevil current are.
@lowtideluke
Жыл бұрын
@@metroplexprime9901 Ranni is the youngest, she literally gets away with murder, lol.
@theberserkerarmor6511
Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Rykard is the oldest simply because he looks the oldest, not to mention he has a more prestigious title
@toxicjl
Жыл бұрын
I could listen to her talk all day, the fact that I get to learn Elden Ring lore is just a bonus.
@WildBerryAura
Жыл бұрын
agreed!
@GanjaScotty
Жыл бұрын
Simp.
@Cman04092
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Chalice does have a really soothing voice. She could probably make some good money doing voice acting, voice overs, audio books, meditation guide, ect.
@aldosalas2722
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Lovely voice!
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that makes me so happy to hear. Comments like yours make it all worth it
@semberspirit
Жыл бұрын
Rykard's actions could also be explained by him being the eldest and first in line for the throne, until Ranni was born. A proud man suddenly losing his status and station to a younger sibling could definitely inspire rebellion
@occultaire
Жыл бұрын
I love how they carefully chose the verbs "hew" and "felled," which are verbs connoting the cutting of wood. I'm an grad student studying literature, and the careful attention From and the translation team pays to language never fails to make me smile. Some detractors of the souls games are often quick to attack the game for it's writing (or, as they claim, the lack thereof), but careful word choice like this one makes me respect the sparse writing and environmental storytelling in these games above all. One of my favorite parts of playing a new From game is piecing together what has happened in this world, and there are often so many clues in the language itself. I hate the corny exposition dumps most games use to transmit the story to the player. Games like Elden Ring, DS, and even Sekiro truly immerse one in a mythological setting, with all the weirdness that entails, better than any other media I've experienced.
@knight_lautrec_of_carim
3 ай бұрын
It's a UK based localisation studio called Frognation that have been working with Fromsoft for a long time now (since Demon's souls in 2008)! They're totally underrated and I think more people should know their name. I am very certain that without their talent, these games wouldn't be half as succesful in the west.
@shocked-by-your-nonsense
2 ай бұрын
It's very good, my only issue is that English has so many synonyms for things which Japanese lacks that at times things can seem disparate. Like in bloodborne we had like 15 cosmic horror terms making them seem like separate things while it was all originally a single thing.
@clintonlee
Жыл бұрын
Praetor refers to a man acting in two official capacities: The commander of an army as well as a government official, while General refers solely to the commander of an army. This also seems to align with Rykard being the eldest, as he seems to hold more power and a higher level of responsibility. Love the videos--you could narrate literally anything and I would listen.
@Munnwort
10 ай бұрын
what if she narrated your moms last words, would you still listen
@Ark132
Жыл бұрын
I agree on the sibling order but I have a more dramatic interpretation. Rykard is oldest and lived part of his life assuming he would be the heir because he was older than Radahn and there wasn't a daughter yet. When Ranni was born and he lost his status as the heir he rebelled and turned to the snake god. Radahn pursued his dreams of being a warrior because he was never in consideration for being the heir since he is neither the first born nor female. Ranni then slots into the youngest having displaced Rykard and becoming the new heir but despised having a fate pushed upon her and so rebels too.
@Dressyone223
Жыл бұрын
The idea that the stronger you are, the longer it takes them to respawn could explain how there are still all the shard bearers despite the fact that Vyke somehow was on track to become Elden Lord despite all the shard bearers still living. He must have been imprisoned for so long that the shard bearers were able to respawn, but how they got their great runes back is a mystery
@SmartySkirt
Жыл бұрын
I think there were more minor shard bearers. Rune arcs are said to be small shards from the Elden Ring. So I think the shard bearers we meet are the ones left.
@Dressyone223
Жыл бұрын
@@SmartySkirt could be, but most of the shard bearers are children of Marika, with Rennala being the exception. I don’t think just anyone could have a great rune of the Elden Ring.
@DieFast4
4 ай бұрын
@@Dressyone223bit late but there are two that fit the bill of being shardbearers but don't, those being ranni and godwyns, so Its possible those had their shards took by vyke and had plenty of time to "respawn" until they were killed again but this time by black knife assassins wielding the rune of death
@jashin888
4 ай бұрын
@@Dressyone223There are many unnamed and unseen demigods. Marika had many children some of them are in the walking mausoleums this was stated by one of the ghost npc’s. Also other demigods died on the night of the black knives not just Ranni and Godwyn. The most likely answer is that vyke killed minor or unheard of demigods(possibly in the shadowlands) to get his great runes remember that even weak demigods like Godrick can have a great rune.
@mrsoulslike570
Жыл бұрын
If you narrated literally everything in existence, i'd have zero complaints
@ianwall36
Жыл бұрын
The kanji in "kyoudai (兄妹)" at 24:00 can be read as 兄( Ani - Big Brother) and 妹 (Imouto - Little Sister) separately
@epryn
Жыл бұрын
Which is important, as kyoudai can also be written 兄弟 which is used more generically as siblings in addition to also meaning "older and younger brothers" There's also 姉弟 for specifically older sister-younger brother combinations (which can still be read as kyoudai, though that's not how it necessarily should be read) So the choice to use 兄妹 does certainly imply that Ranni is younger than at least one of her brothers
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
Ahh I see! I didn't know about breaking down the phrase to read the characters separately. That's really interesting, thank you!
@jakebennett9130
Жыл бұрын
@@miss_chalice a lot of kanji works in this way, in addition to there being tens of thousands of characters across multiple countries that use kanji. It becomes a language of context more than words actually said, due to the sheer volume of meanings behind every character.
@cat.sunday
Жыл бұрын
I really think Rykard is the oldest child. Rather than acting like a middle child, I think it makes just as much--if not more--sense that Rykard is trying to gain power in this alternative way *because* his claim to the Carian throne has been usurped by the birth of a little sister. Also I love your videos! ^^ Your voice is so soothing and you really put a lot of thought behind your analysis.
@nodiggityindeed
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I viewed Rykard's actions. A man who once had a claim to the throne and it was taken from him would do anything to have it back. And that fits with Radahn if he never had a chance at the throne he would never have cared about succession or control and focused on what he was good at, magic and fighting.
@connormaclean1569
Жыл бұрын
It's funny if this is true. Radahn the only one to never have the chance to be a king/queen yet acts more like a leader than both Ranni and Rykard
@kylemclaren617
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't really make sense as rykard works WITH ranni to help her out of the greater wills control and into the puppet body we know. I don't think he would have conspired with her if he was upset at losing some place in the royal line to the throne. I believe he just saw the truth of the greater will like his sister did.
@manumainio
Жыл бұрын
@@kylemclaren617 Was about to say the same thing. Rykard and Ranni are allies in their rebellion against the order.
@cat.sunday
Жыл бұрын
@@kylemclaren617 That's interesting! 👀I interpreted that as a mutual use of each other's skills, since both would have something to gain in that situation and Ranni's already keen on "gaining advantage" from her allies--even the ones she doesn't particularly like (Selevus, lol.) Rykard is even "rewarded" the Blasphemous Claw for his help on the Night of the Black Knives. You could say it's Ranni caring about Rykard's well-being, or that it's payment in exchange for a job well done. I lean towards the latter, since Ranni doesn't extend that same courtesy to Blaidd, or Iji, who she *explicitly* says she loves.
@Black_Phillip_215
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to answer questions, it’s an amazing way of giving back to us!
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
Any time! I really enjoyed picking questions that I didn't know that much on, it was a great oppurtunity to give my brain a work out, and go explore the world again :) It's super rewarding and I'm glad you enjoy it too! thanks for watching !
@Capybarristan
Жыл бұрын
It might also be worth noting that the Fingerslayer Blade in Nokron looks almost exactly like the Sacred Relic sword which the Elden Beast turns Radagon into, only distorted and flaccid. This is just armchair theory, but maybe that’s why there’s no third giant body on the throne in Sellia, or maybe it has other implications as to what it took to forge that fingerslayer blade.
@kitsunami3107
Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple woman. I watch one miss chalice lore video and I cant help but to click on another. Loving your channel so much ❤️
@dyllanaldridge1044
Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff! My personal theory on the "lord of night" is they are a concept similar to the "lord of frenzied flame". They have not come to be, but you, the player, can become them. Ranni's age is one of darkness and the stars...I think it plausible the player character could be referred to as a "lord of night".
@TheBuuteredBiscuit
6 ай бұрын
I always had it in my head that the sibling order was Rykard, Ranni, Radahn. Radahn strikes me as a proud younger brother with something to prove. He also learned gravity magic to hold the stars in place and undermine his mother and sister
@soap9277
Жыл бұрын
Hype, new video drop! If it weren't for you, Vaati, and SmoughTown, I'd have no idea what is even going on in this game.
@tysaylor7079
Жыл бұрын
Check out Tarnished archeologist too!
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
I love to help give you my insight!
@mixmax6027
Жыл бұрын
Plus, i'd never get any sleep 😴 . Love these videos!
@surgiosurge
Жыл бұрын
Allow me to recommend you Hawkshaw, he's ultra professional and very insightful
@eldenservices2777
Жыл бұрын
V-Limit is pretty great aswell
@Neuvost
Жыл бұрын
Your deadpan delivery of, "He allowed himself to be devoured by serpents - classic middle child behavior," is so funny. The subtly of your humor is much appreciated.
@Fullmetalnyuu0
Жыл бұрын
Important to note, the fingerslayer blade looks exactly the same as the sacred ritual sword if you straighten it out, meaning it was most likely also made from the corpse of a god
@davidclark765
Жыл бұрын
With regard to why Demigods don't revive, there's actually a clearer explanation that fits with why your character revives as well. In a very long video by a fellow calling himself T-L-G-T-W (kzitem.info/news/bejne/pIF_tpxvgWJ1fqA), he explains that in the Lands Between, BELIEF is what creates power. Spells are manifestations of belief, and so is one's ability to revive. So long as they hold true to their convictions, they cannot perish. Such is the nature of the Tarnished as well. And what we see with everyone we kill is that as they die, their beliefs falter and fail, thus, ending them permanently. A few examples: Godrick is defeated, and abandons his desire to progress, instead falling into his delusions of gold; Rennala doesn't die at all because her beliefs are not shaken; when Malenia is defeated, she says she has finally "met her match", and thus gives up; Radahn's mind is already gone, so when he dies, his beliefs die with him; and as a final counter example, Rykard explicitly tells you "a serpent never dies", and sure enough, his head reappears in his boss room, presumably still "alive", though now being consumed by Tanith. With regards to your character, so long as you never give up on your goal to become Elden Lord, you cannot ever perish, and that is why Margit threatens you saying "Put these foolish ambitions to rest." He's trying to break your convictions, and thus cause you to die permanently. But of course, we don't let him! Anyway, love your content, and hope this helps clarify things! All credit to T-L-G-T-W for this insight, and if you all haven't watched his massive video, it's absolutely brimming with great info and is worth your time.
@Wveth
9 ай бұрын
I think if that was the intended reading, there would be textual support somewhere. The reasoning given here doesn't seem firm.
@pinglewingle1304
8 ай бұрын
This seems like it's putting the cart before the horse. It's just as easy (easier tbh) to say that it isn't that they're dying because they're giving up hope, they're giving up hope because they're dying. While we don't know all of the details of how death works in the Lands Between, we do know some of them, and this theory is counter to what we actually find in the game.
@spazemunky
Жыл бұрын
I think the giant skeletons were a part of a cut story line. The more I learn about some of these minor quests the more I think a library of story was left on the cutting room floor. Hopefully we get this in the DLCs
@fireburn264
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos Chalice, and I've learned so much from them. 💙
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I do my best to share my perspective and always like to share how I came to the conclusions that I did. I appreciate that you like my explanations and find them interesting!
@danielossa2721
Жыл бұрын
Never played the game but I’ve been bingeing these videos because I find the Lore so interesting. Would love to hear your thoughts on Melina. She is the first person we meet and yet seems to be the most mysterious character in the game. I like the theory that she’s related to Melania and miquella, or that she might be the Gloam-eyed queen. Hopefully we get to see more of her in the DLC.
@NXVSTAGRAM
Жыл бұрын
If you ever get the chance well worth investing time into
@TOUGHEYES
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the consideration for answering some musings that people have about the Lore. It's only a small reference but it ties into this relationship the game has with multiple cultural mythologies. I know everything about the Regalia of Eochaid already, Eochaid is the name of the King of the Fír Bolg of Irish Mythology. Big guys, but the Ash of War on it and Executioner's Greatsword, I believe is based off of an archaic spear described as a weapon of the Fír Bolg. Its not that they had tips, but the sides were sharp and the blunt tops potentially could have smashed through shields, hence the corkscrew drill effect of Eochaid's Dancing Blade. Its not worth it's own video, from anyone for that matter, but as one example of Irish Mythology that could be interpreted from the game, I wanted to mention it.
@TheCHAOXUS
Жыл бұрын
In my headcannon, Rykard was firstborn, Ranni the middle child and Radahn the youngling. Ranni is very hard to place since we never see what she truly looked liked and since the shrouds herself in mistery. But I would be confident in putting Rykard above Radahn, Rykard always looked old the in paintings whereas Radahn looks quite young. Additionally, Rykards domain is directly next to the capital, Leyndell, and with his title of Praetor he seems like he must hold a high standing in society. In Rome most praetors started out as generals or high military officials before becoming a praetor, so it makes too much sense to me that Rykard is older than Radahn. The reason I have Ranni as the middle child is because Ranni seemed to be a lot closer to Rykard than to Radahn. Multiple channels talked about the theory that Ranni told Rykard about the night of the black knifes before it happened. Additionally, Radahn actively sabotages Ranni's fate with his influence on the stars with his gravity magic. Rykard on the other hand does not act again Ranni in any shape or form. Them being close does not mean that Radahn is the youngest, but I could see that Rykard and Ranni were born close to each other while Radahn was born considerably later.
@midoritokiwafan
Жыл бұрын
your voice is somehow very calming to me!! I’ve been having a bit of a hard time lately and even if it’s just for a few minutes your videos really help me to relax! plus elden ring lore is pretty interesting
@meganlarkin7436
5 ай бұрын
I would also say that Radahn being the eldest is also supported by the fanboying over his dad. It speaks to a strong relationship likely facilitated by a lot of time to bond.
@Layzieee
Жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that Radahn looked up to Godfrey more than Radagon, which depending on when in the timeline he started to look up to him it could be a sign of rebellion towards Radagon. Great video as always and good luck on your journey as well!
@grogueQ
Жыл бұрын
I love your slow and detailed explanations with the visuals and all the translations and definitions. Some of the other really great lore hunters just go too quickly and although they may have all the information, it's hard to pick it up. But the way you deliver it it's so understandable and much appreciated. Keep them coming.
@tomislavpoje2159
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for answering questions. I'm especially honored you pick mine which was about Radahn, Rykard and Ranni :) I do agree with you that Rykard is probably the oldest with Radahn being the middle child and Ranni being the youngest. On the other hand, Ranni could be the eldest one as well. I'm really glad you're doing this for full time job. It's something you really like. You already have a massive success. Keep doing it and , like Godrick said, you'll be delivered to greater heights ;) Btw, did you check Elden Ring: Official Strategy Guide Vol 1 and Vol 2???
@gedewahyu.p
Жыл бұрын
This is about the Roundtable Hold but relates to the Fingerslayer Blade. To continue your theory of the use of the Fingerslayer Blade, I can only guess that it was used to eliminate the Two Fingers in the Roundtable Hold in Leyndell, where we can find Raging Wolf Vargram & Errant Sorcerer Wilhelm, which is why, further, that Roundtable Hold isn't operational anymore. Consequently, then, the new Roundtable Hold is not as lively, because most Tarnished refused to move or, like Istvan or Tragoth, enjoy grass more. The old Roundtable Hold still has visitors, except that there's no more Two Fingers reside within.
@jeftecoutinho
Жыл бұрын
5:08 Also, the Two Fingers say that "the Greater Will has long renounced the demigods", which might imply that the Grace that would normally keep the demigods alive is no longer with them. There's also the fact that Grace will leave you once your purpose is achieved. Which explains how Godfrey and Morgott die, despite having grace. As Varré says: "It shows the path that you are meant to follow, even if It leads to your grave."
@Siculidee
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Rykard comes off as the second. IMO, I do not think Elden Ring wanted to imply Praetor in the sense of a military general or commander. I think, they were instead going for the Roman Empire’s use of Praetor, which also had a function of overseeing the “Munera”, or in our view, the gladiatorial combat but eventually moved onto inquisition of criminals and noblemen. This makes sense when considering the duelist all wear serpent emblazoned armor, perhaps these were gladiators originally condemned by Rykard. So here’s my view: Radahn has a lion theme and is the “General” of the game, he represents the great general himself, Julius Caesar (Caelid) with Leonard as Asturcus, Caesar’s human footed horse lol. Now his armor does come from Guts, but it also comes from the myth of Hercules, god of strength and heroes wearing the pelt of the Nemean lion. Hercules also had a bout of madness, and Caesar had a parasite infection, maybe a correlation with Radahns scarlet rot madness. Anywho, I think Radahn represents the Republic period of Ancient Rome. 1st born. Rykard has a serpent theme and is the “Praetor”, he represents the gladiatorial games for a period but moves on to grand inquisitions. Rykard then moves away from this belief system and explores the cult of Eiglay, her winged form representing both Mercury (Divine messenger) and fertility snake god, Glycon. He then abuses his power and title by killing and eating noblemen, knights and anyone else, decimating human population but growing his serpent hybrids. Rykards journey mirrors that of Alexander of Abonoteichus, a Greek oracle that prophesied the coming age of Glycon. It is stated he fixated a human head to a snakes and sat at his throne, he was hated by Christians who deemed him a blasphemous liar and would not offer him communion. This can be viewed as the period of the Roman Empire, 2nd born. Ranni has a witch theme and is a “Princess”, she represents Selene/Luna “the white armed goddess”. Ranni/Rennala/Snowy witch form the triple goddess, Maiden/Mother/Crone and with Ranni having Blaid and gifting us the lone wolf ashes, this represents Romulus and Remus, founders of Rome. However, with the heavy emphasis of witchcraft and the Golden order’s war with Liurnia, and Ranni being the last Princess of her line, it would seem Ranni’s time mirrors that of Empress Maria Komnene, representing the last Byzantine Empress of Eastern Rome (Constantinople), the last Born. I may be wrong, but I’m not trying to change anyones head cannon or debate, just offering up my thoughts on it all, 🍻 did not expect to research so much and write so little, cheers 🥂
@visisydandthevoid
2 ай бұрын
I put on your Elden ring playlist every night when I law down for bed. Such a smooth calming voice 💕
@myrrh1463
9 ай бұрын
As for middle child syndrome, I think Rykard has a variant I'll call middle heir syndrome. If he were indeed the eldest, but it's a matriarchy, then he would have been raised as the responsible firstborn, taught to own his actions, etc. only to be replaced by his little sister. Being the elder sibling, and also going from being the apple of my parents' eye to the un-favorite all of a sudden, I'm definitely catching some familiar vibes. Where Ranni definitely shows spoiled youngest traits, Rykard has a bitterness and morbid acceptance about him that an abandoned eldest might have. Radahn, on the other hand, seems like someone who was never first in line to rule, and so was able to choose his own path to a greater degree. He idolized Godfrey and Radagon, and so he became a general, with one item description quoting him saying, "I was born a champion's cub. Now I am the Lord of the Battlefield's lion."
@Flappr
Жыл бұрын
Your channel is a blessing. Keep up the good work.
@borderlandish1140
5 ай бұрын
Well I found the channel im going to be falling asleep to every night from now on. That voice is so soothing.
@taylorball3005
Жыл бұрын
In regards to the siblings positions I think it’s Radahn, Ranni, then Rykard. My main reason is because Rykard knew that he would never have a chance at getting at the throne, and that’s why he went to the serpent so he could potentially overthrow everybody and secure his own rulership. Radahn was first born and a prodigy in Magic and war and was almost guaranteed until his sister was born so that’s why we find him actively using a lot more magic that his sister does. And he knew that her fate was tied to the stars, so that is part of the reason why he held back all the stars, because if he held it back, then she would not be able to live her fate as truly intended originally, and then that would’ve given him an opportunity for the throne which would’ve been his originally.
@kekmitkeks9328
Жыл бұрын
Man these videos are so interesting, I can always see the curiosity sparkle in your eyes
@Wenzel368
Жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soft and soothing I've started putting on a video to get to sleep.
@corbinmoreno6962
Жыл бұрын
I suppose it's possible that morgott is not only effected by the omen curse but has also came in contact with the aspect of the crucible tail since he has horns and a tail
@BalkanRedneck
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the respawning bosses, having the demigod bosses being hewn into rememberances makes sense. But what about the last Flame Giant or the two dragon lords that also grant rememberances despite not being demigods? Could it be that one's level of power also determines if they are hewn into a rememberance? Also just wanted to complement you on another great video. They are a godsend for bluntsones like my who overlooked some of the lore because they were too busy panic-rolling.
@Kris-wo4pj
Жыл бұрын
I think it's cuz they were captured and forced to survive the greater will. I know the one dragon lord for the destined death god was a friend and willingly chose to help his friend fight the destined death but they are both literally in the roots of the erdtree.
@miss_chalice
Жыл бұрын
I think so! Enia does say that not only demi-gods are hewn, but "even the greater of the champions are" - which could include those other beings. i think it's some kind of power limiter on the world! also thank you so much for your kind words, i'm really glad you enjoyed this video!
@BalkanRedneck
Жыл бұрын
@@Kris-wo4pj I suppose that makes sense for the Giant and Fortisax (I think that was his name). But the Regal Ancestral Spirit and one of the Natural Borns of the Void also do and I think they aren't a subject to the greater will. Heck the latter is from outer space.
@BalkanRedneck
Жыл бұрын
@@miss_chalice thank you for taking the trouble to answer :). I think that actually makes a lot of sense. Perhaps the Greater Will, much like a spider's web, traps those beings, who's power could potentially serve to upset order. I think the fact that the Natural Born of the Void, isn't a native to the Lands Between yet leaves behind a remembrance, lends credence to that theory.
@jacobfreeman5444
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts on the matter is that the greater will can capture all souls upon death(which may be why the other civilizations had an ax to grind with the Erd tree. They felt the greater will was overstepping its boundaries) and that all souls would be reborn. But that doesn't mean they would be reborn as they were. The remembrances may be a trophy given to the tarnished by the greater will for their achievement. A pat on the back for taking down this powerful being by being given an aspect of that being's power.
@pip5188
Жыл бұрын
6:54 Reminds me of scientists in Pokemon creating Ditto the shapeshifting blob pokemon in an attempt at creating their own powerful legendary pokemon
@augustgurtisen
Жыл бұрын
"In Marika's own words. Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices." This directly backs up your remembrance point. Her useless demigod kids are killed and stored for later use. This is before the shattering
@aggersoul23
Жыл бұрын
The most entertaining, informative, and well spoken channel out there... And you get to expand your vocabulary as well. What an absolute win. You rock Missy
@merio177
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually currently doing some research on the gothic movement (in literature mostly) and its elements or influence in Elden Ring, and these videos are absolute gems to break down characters or aspects of the lore and then establish the relations I'm looking for. Great work, keep them coming :)
@RougeHimbo
Жыл бұрын
The Erd tree could be picking and choosing who comes back. It no longer needed the golden order pantheon and sought to rid the lands between of them anyway.
@xiledturtle766
Жыл бұрын
I'm learning more about Elden RIng from you and this Q&A. Ive enjoyed everything you have been putting out along with your Loreplay,
@puncherofbread
Жыл бұрын
Radahn is definately the middle child. Only because it makes the most sense if you take into account the type of family that the Carians are. They are the ones rebelling against the erdtree, so the rebelling with them would be just following the status quo/ joining the side of the erdtree.
@idiot_sandwich_
9 ай бұрын
I like to think that since the remembrances can be used to get weapons or spells, the demigods kinda live on in whatever weapon you chose
@nemesisundead83
Жыл бұрын
Just a guess Radahn is the oldest and strived to protect his family and his throne til Ranni was born then he focused on other things then Rykard was born and realized he would never become the Lord and looked for other means to become a lord (snake time baby) or switch the men either way should work and I'd also say they have to be 10-12 years apart or 700 depending on when the rune of death was removed from the Elden Ring cause death was stopped but what about life I don't think they mention anything about not being able to give life only that it can't be taken away anymore
@lilstamp08
8 ай бұрын
5:03 could it not be possible that Marika/and or the greater will simply do not wish to revive the demigods anymore? They all seemed to forsake Marika in a way, and a Marika also warns them that they will be sacrificed if they don’t make something of themselves. I think the regular enemies are there as tarnished food. But the bosses are a test that need not be repeated once vanquished.
@ShadowMertag
Жыл бұрын
In terms of Radahn, Rykard and Ranni. I would put forward Ranni is the youngest, as you say, she seems to lack a lot of the responsibilities of her siblings and is the first heir and yet acts in very young impulsive manners. However as for Radahn and Rykard. Radahn is a military man, and a high standing member of the army. and Rykard is a man of the cloth, effectively the church (bare with me). In old traditions, the First Child was normally given the largest responsibilities in terms of protecting and guiding the realm. The Middle Child is typically given to the church to wisen them to guide their sibling and extend the monarchy's influence in the church, and to keep the "back up" safe. So to prep the two for the throne this tradition may have been followed either as a formaility or just as a plan. But when Ranni entered the picture that simply threw that out the window and while it kept the two men as powerful individuals they were no longer in the running to rule.
@Fixti0n
Жыл бұрын
Am on the side that Radhan is the oldest child, the elder child usually take on the protector role and is more likely to be a good warrior, and during WW1 the army discovered that the eldest brother were more then three times as likely to be the best solider in the platoon, and rising up the ranks of the army. The General of the army would more then likely to be an eldest child. He is also shown to care deeply of all those he calls companion, especially his horse, who he learned gravity magic just so he could ride him. If that isnt give you older brother vibes, then i dont know what will.
@Necoy666
Жыл бұрын
This is the type of ASMR I didn't know I needed but I absolutely love, subbed
@jamesdogsniffer8031
Жыл бұрын
Please do another Elden ring manga reading, I loved your other ones!
@jacobfreeman5444
Жыл бұрын
Not sure you can judge a demigod by the standards of mortals. I think Rykard's apparent difference in hair color just showed he was a black sheep of the family. His place to govern was even a freaking volcano. Figure he was given it as a means of keeping him out of trouble. Radahn obviously felt a need to follow in his father's footsteps so that explains his demeanor. He was trying to be the conquering hero to show he was worthy of his lineage. And Ranni was expected to follow her mother as a Sorceror queen. To head the Carian house in place of her mother whom had gone a bit...eccentric. But this doesn't mean they were at odds. I take the way the infighting went down in the Shattering to show that the fighting was not between each demigod and their followers but rather between each demigod house. Of which we have three confirmed. The Golden lineage, the Carian, and whatever we are gonna call the twins. With Morgott being his own seperate entity because he was the only one fighting to keep the battles outside the Capitol.
@marlonlam6959
Жыл бұрын
You have such a soothing voice. Sometimes I forget I’m listening to dope elden ring shit.
@oblivionsmuse
Жыл бұрын
I'm replaying with a bleed build but after listening to a few of your videos, it has made the world and the quests within it, make so much more sense! I am falling in love with this game all over again. Can't wait for your next videos!
@brandonm9378
Жыл бұрын
I did notice sometbing about Rykard and Radahn in relation to their age. As you stated, the title Praetor suggests that he was involved in law and administration whereas Radahn's title of General only suggests military duties. In our world, in the late middle aged, older sons were often given more domestic roles within government as it was safer and younger sons could be sent off on campaign as their deaths would be of less consequence to the kingdom due to the inheritance laws you explained.
@gregsimonds6416
Ай бұрын
In my interpretation, Rykard is acting more like the elder sibling who expects to be given authority due to their age, but doesn't get it, and thus acts out in a way that seems to demand that authority.
@edsonos
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear more of your perspective in other games like The Witcher, and the upcoming The Legend of Zelda. The amount of lore in the last, is really something that offers endless content.
@mynameisgryphon1007
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you have so few videos - your content is such high quality! I thought it was a more established channel that I just hadn't seen yet! I could really listen to you read anything for hours. And the commitment of your cosplay in the videos where you do it so dope to see. I hope you do more lore videos for all the FromSoft titles but I'm sure anything you make will be excellent. You've got a new subscriber. Really great stuff
@sgtpastry
Жыл бұрын
I remember learning in Social Studies (is that still a thing?) that with British Lordships the order with which you were born dictated what path you would go down. At least, for the sons due to the patriarichal structure. The eldest would go down a government-oriented path, and I think the next went down a military-oriented path, and the next youngest did whatever. I might be wrong, as it's been two decades since I learned it (when did I get old?), and I'm too lazy to look it up. Assuming it's true, and Rennala/Radagon family followed a similar structure, then the order of eldest to youngest would be Rykard, Radahn, Ranni. Rykard was a justiciar, which I'm assuming is closely related to a government-oriented path, Radahn is a general, which is obvious, and Ranni does whatever she wants. As for the "middle child syndrome," Radahn did halt the stars, which goes against both his mother's and sister's best interest. To me, that seems like a big "middle child syndrome" move. Plus, Rykard may have been close with his mother and was equally heartbroken when Radagon left her. After seeing the state of Rennala after the divorce, I think Rykard said, "I'm going to burn the Erdtree to the ground and I don't care what happens!"
@thefirstofthelast1181
Жыл бұрын
I always believed rykard was eldest, as he grew to the rank of praetor (which is above a general in terms of power) before his serpenthood. I think its important that his snake-self not go unmentioned, as the relation between the snake-god eiglay and the erdtree is a very fringe and unmentioned thing. The war of the serpents is, in my opinion, a war that originally took place in the age of the ancient erdtree (when it was still an arborial tree). In this time, the tree poured with sap that increases vitality, endurance, and mind. Hence, the covetous serpent god eiglay sought to eat the tree. This began the rivalry between the erdtree forces and those of the serpent. The serpent was defeated and locked deep within Mt Gelmir by Champion of the Erdtree, Hoarah Loux. This combat between Hoarah Loux and the serpent explains some things: 1. The ceremonial role of the serpent duelists in the coliseums. The duelists are adorned with snake imagery and aren't very strong enemies. The hypothesis is that they're like the "bad guy" in wrestling, a gladiatorial sport showing a fight between the erdtree and serpents 2. Why mt. Gelmir looks like that. Hoarah Loux is one of the few people capable of shattering earth. We see only a fraction of that power when we fight him, since his lordship required that he tame his destructive ways. It makes sense that fighting a god would cause some extra landscape damage. 3. Why HL became Godfrey. Everyone knew after this that HL was powerful enough to level leyndell should he want to. Therefore, he was forced to become a more civil lord and not shatter the earth. 4. The age of rykard. This war of the serpents was an ancient one, and few know of it at all (on purpose, i imagine, to reduce the possibility that someone might do what rykard did). If rykard was the eldest, and a praetor, it would make sense that he would know about these ancient events.
@Ozric42
Жыл бұрын
I have watched some of you character lore videos before because I have always found them to be a thorough explanation. This video is another perfect example of that. The amount of digging you must do and the level of detail that you go into to bring all the information required together, is very impressive indeed. And you then convey that in a very clear manner. Thank you very much for all you do! All the best for your endeavour of going full time, I hope you get some voice acting work too it would be deserved.
@Calithilhel
Жыл бұрын
I actually just thought that Rykard's depictions were colourless, rather than blonde/gray, I think titles is the best way to go because all three of those siblings are ridiculously accomplished. Radahn was the most powerful of all demigods and he lived alongside Godwyn, Rykard has the title praetor and had the means, courage and wisdom to rebel against the Greater Will openly, and Ranni masterminded the events of the entire game, even becoming a true god in her ending. All these things to me denote an extreme amount of experience.
@Jumungous
Жыл бұрын
This channel is my favorite internet discovery in weeks Listening to Chalice lay out her extremely well-reasoned case for each topic is like a hot cup of tea for your brain
@silentservant_
Жыл бұрын
You add the most interesting and unique perspectives to the game and the Souls series that many don’t, when you mentioned about how much time actually passes by when our character dies in game and comes back. You’re right, it can be a very long time and we just don’t realize it. A very unique point with Master Hewg
@automatedsoul
Жыл бұрын
Damn I never thought about the “we die for a moment, but it coulda been months years”
@drsidsloth
Жыл бұрын
Because I've been struggling to sleep lately, someone recommended to me to find an audiobook to listen too related to my interests and I came across your channel and I've had a solid night's sleep for a week now! Please keep making videos! Your voice is so soothing and I drift off having elden ring dreams lol I'd love to hear you talk about all the souls games!
@ghostpants7930
Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see a video on Roderika and Master Hewg. They are my favorite related questline characters.
@everybody_awful
Жыл бұрын
Rykard's actions can also be ported to be the actions of a person who was to become king, but was ultimately denied from beeing one with the birth of his younger sister and the preeminence of the greater will. With that he came to overthink his role and found the ways of the greater will to be flawed, ending up hating the greater will (we don't know if he hates Rani, but there is also no portrait of her in his manor) While Radahn found his purpose in battle, (he is shown to be a good and well liked general) Rykard instead looked for alternatives for the greater will, changing his attitude when he found the serpent. I think in his mind it is not him or the snake ruling, but the amalgamation of all who where devoured. Making it to some kind of democracy in his book
@toomanylies7716
Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't think you could answer that first question satisfactorily without just saying it's a game mechanic, but you did. Much respect.
@DarkHypernova
Жыл бұрын
About Demigods possibly reviving. It is said that Vyke managed to aquire two great runes. This is curious since that means he would have felled two demigods but they are all alive when we face them. Maybe the shardbearers lives are linked to their great runes now. Perhaps when Vyke was imprisoned, he lost his great runes and from those the shardbearers could take physical form again.
@travislloyd1377
Жыл бұрын
My own interpretation was Radahn > Rykard > Ranni, however there's a book I like that briefly looks at the traits of children as adults based on their birth order. In Edelstein LN PH.D 2006 - "Writer's Guide to Character Traits" in regards to siblings and their birth order is that: The Firstborn; Identifies with parents and likes to be in authority, is disciplined, has good verbal skills, is protective of others, wants admiration and respect, may appear arrogant and seeks reassurance, is devastated by failure, finds it difficult to delegate, a high achiever and can be driven, puts in a lot of effort and can be pessimisitc, is nurturing and could be overcommitted, and responsible, perfectionist, a worrier. The Middle-Born; becomes the family mediator, may not have developed distinctive traits, may be confused about identity, may feel that life is unfair, does not feel special like the oldest or youngest siblings, does well in marriage and is loyal, can be secretive, is social and popular, avoids conflict and does well as a friend, knows how to get along with others and share, may become excessive in peacemaker or mediator role and tries to make everyone happy, has a personality that is greatly influenced by siblings, has a desire to be first and can be competitive or self-destructive. The Last-Born; Is used to a lot of attention and pampering, feels rules have little meaning and may lack disipline in personal life, may manipulate others to get what they want, is lighthearted and charming, looks to others for answers and others have broken the ice, is dependent on others and finds it difficult to be self-sufficient, is less career oriented than other birth positions, is attracted to creative arts, and is more likely to follow than to lead. One thing I like to also consider to the timing and effects of Rennala and Radagon's divorce, along with some aspects of the children's influences. Ranni does not seem to mention Radagon at all and it seems like she was incredibly attatched to her mother at least at some stage in the past, which might suggest she didn't have much of an opportunity to connect with her father before he left and perhaps didn't want to after he betrayed Rennala. Then there's Radahn who was inspired by Godfrey and look pride in the Red hair he inherited from Radagon, as well as being more aligned with the Erdtree. While I don't think we'll get the full picture yet, it's interesting to consider the traits and their applications to the Carian children.
@geckowins9652
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, starting a rebellion against the Erdtree and getting devoured by the great serpent are definitely signs of being a middle child
@Loctorak
7 ай бұрын
CLASSIC middle child
@megamicromanager2449
Жыл бұрын
*Radahns character shows great influence from Godfrey, Radagon and Sellia, proud of his lineage *taking responsibility to protect Sellia, leonard(bless him) and militaristic discipline. *his rune also shows characteristics of burning(resistance) of outside influence, similar to how malenia's rune resists the scarlet rot from inside. *his fighting style looks like spinning /dancing if you ignore his size, almost like those nomadic warriors and his blade is also like a curved sword if you ignore its size.(did he also travel with nomadic warriors at some point?) he's the big brother we all deserve and needs to be protected from his small sisters simps.
@wearblackclothes
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that when you die, what happened is the whole universe just went on without you. Then billions of years later after the heat death of the universe some unknown force crunches everything together again, expansion starts again and history repeats it's self and your soul awakes in such a state right before you died. It's also terrifying that the soul returns to the body of those hanging burnt bodies. And thats why they are scream. They die, return to their bodies just to suffer and die again
@maxanderson8872
Жыл бұрын
I think that Rykards rebelliousness could be attributed to Rennala doting on her dear daughter, and neglecting her sons, who proceed to go off and do their own (destructive) thing. Let's not forget that halting the stars is also clearly dangerous and reckless
@Vospader21
Жыл бұрын
Love the little bit of soft background music. Thank you.
@nooby0316
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the first question, there is an important point and that is that you don't kill the demigods in the game at any time. Godrick's head is still alive on the ground. from Rykard you find his head on the ground and a tanith eating it, possibly to speed up the reincarnation process. Morgot is left alive on the ground. When you kill Maliketh and the death rune thing happens, all "killed" demigods finish to die, the example of this is Morgot in Godfrey's hands. I think what happens in the fights is rather to hit the bosses until they are completely broken but without actually killing them, the moment they die is after the fight with Maliketh.
@bakhtrian2867
4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on Shabriri, would love an insight into this very interesting character
@MrKamex
Жыл бұрын
The part of the big ones being turned into remembrances couldve been a nice way to redo boss fights. Either use the remembrance to let them respawn or trade it in for a weapon/spell
@strawhatrore2072
11 ай бұрын
Kyoudai is usually written as 兄弟. But the one you have here is 兄妹, which is the character for Older brother plus younger sister. It can sometimes be read as Kyoudai too, but the choice of these kanji over the standard ones suggests to me that they may be directly indicating the age relationship. I'm not a native speaker, but I am relatively fluent. Though it's my first time seeing Kyoudai written in this way. You can see my Japanese level on the front video of my page.
@godofhypersapce4570
Жыл бұрын
As a fellow middle child i understand completely what it feels trying to understand or discribing how multi child families work in lore of things, also I really love your pendnet. For a question for elden ring, if its possible can you do some lore about the elemental dragons and the ancient dragons and how Dragonlord Placidusax is said to be the previous Elden Lord before the arrival of the Erdtree.
@Ozric42
Жыл бұрын
A question I've been wondering about, is who are/were the Night's Cavalry? All we really easily know is they used to be lead by Fell Omens, but I find it intriguing how they are spread all over the Lands Between including the Forbidden Lands and Consecrated Snowfield. If you can find out any more information it would be very interesting to hear.
@auberondd
Жыл бұрын
these Q&As are my favorite videos, really nice format
@occultpuppy1828
Жыл бұрын
After listening to both you and Quelaag talking about the sibling order, I really can't shake the Rykard, Radahn and Ranni order. I'm so grateful for fun information/discussions these videos always pose and it's nice/refreshing to have women help leading in these discussions also! Thank you!
@thiagobnla
Жыл бұрын
I love the attention to details you give in your answers. I have lots of questions of my own. curious to see what's next
@HoujinShimanagashi96
Жыл бұрын
In regard to the order of the R family: If you are assuming the Erdtree (and therefore Marika) are the top of the familial hierarchy, then yes, Ranni and Rykard are rebelling against their elders. However, you must remember that initially (at least from the Carian perspective) Radagon was a lesser member (relative to Marika) of the Golden Order; and if you claim the Lands Between was matriarchal, then would allegiance to Rennala and the Carian Royals make more sense to the immediate family, ESPECIALLY when it was Radagon who arguably made the first betrayal by ditching Rennala entirely. He even had the M twins (and theoretically Melina) with Marika after the fact. Rennala was so heartbroken that she shut down and went insane. What children wouldn't be bitter about their father abandoning them and hurting the rest of the family. You could then argue that it was Radahn who actually rebelled against the Carians by halting the stars. My point is that the middle-child-syndrome is hard to use here when the parents were "divorced" in the first place. Radahn sided with his father likely because he idolized Godfrey, while Ranni clearly sided with her mother. Rykard may be argued as more of a third party, although his antagonism towards the Erdtree and allegiance with Ranni makes it seem like he's more of a momma's boy.
@puddlewater8954
Жыл бұрын
Ayyy so you decided to make the jump to doing YT full time it can be scary but we’re all here to support you and we all love the content so keep it coming. We will all be here on the next one.
@bunbunbunnyboop855
Жыл бұрын
I don't remember where, but I could've sworn that the game says that they had a queen that they worshiped in Nox, and when she died (perhaps Marika killed her), the people of Nox attempted to remake their queen using the mimic tears
@caseyclark5174
Жыл бұрын
No idea how I've never found your channel till now with how long and how deep into the souls community I am, but I absolutely love it! Binged the whole thing in 2 days haha. I was wondering if you had any interest in ever covering lore from the older souls games, I'm not sure if this was your first souls game or just the one you decided to start covering but I wouldn't let them being older and already covered scare you away from talking about them. I've already seen vaati and plenty others cover the things in elden ring you have too and I still love the passion and personality you brought to it in your own unique way as well! : ) Plus so many good cosplay opportunities we'd miss out on haha
@danielwilliamswriter
Жыл бұрын
Sibling-wise, I agree that the eldest is either Rykard or Radahn, though I think the rebellion against the Greater Will is less to do with middle-child syndrome and more their anger at their father breaking their mother's heart and returning to the Golden Order, their old enemies. I see them as children of divorce who deeply reject anything to do with their step-family to an extreme extent
@artursantos6619
Жыл бұрын
If only you knew how much I've been wanting more videos from you. They are always 10/10 ^-^
@TonkarzOfSolSystem
Жыл бұрын
Many characters say that people will return to the Erdtree when they die, but we never see anything that suggests it actually occurs. The blessed dew talisman says: "It was once thought that the blessed sap of the Erdtree would drip from its boughs forever -- but that age of plenty swiftly came to a close, and with time, the Erdtree became more an object of faith." So I think this idea of returning to the Erdtree is a article of faith, not something that actually happens. The Erdtree burial crypts in particular show that the people of the Golden Order will actually place people in the roots in the belief that they will be sucked up by the tree. Yet we can see that those corpses are just decaying into ordinary soil and nutrients. As a side note we see many characters act as if death is permanent, that would not make sense if people come back to life. For example Edgar and Yura. Bloody Fingers and Recusants in particular wouldn't make sense if every tarnished is just returning to life every time they get killed. And Hewg actually says he thought the player might've died. Death seems to be just as real and permanent in the Lands Between as it is anywhere else.
@iyannaranjo3665
Жыл бұрын
I love your lore videos, I love fromsoftware and the way they let you piece together al the lore it gives just enough information to catch your interest but doesn't give enough to let you speculate for years to come, watching your videos I have realized a lot of things I haven't been able to piece together, thank you!
@mathewmontavon9079
5 ай бұрын
I tend to agree with the Rykard, Radhan, Rannie birth order. Mostly because of their ranking and how Renalla refers to Ranni. Frankly, I've found little correlation between ones position in the sibling order, and attitude. To really get a feel for it, I'd prefer have dialogue from both Radhan and Rykard pre faculty loss. Ranni's behavior doesn't really strike me as a tantrum of any kind. Really, both Rykard and Ranni came to a similar conclusion as Goldmask (who is actually my favorite ending). Each just pursued different extremes with the goal of repairing the world. Ranni choosing to pursue her Age of Stars, Rykard failing outright and being destroyed by the serpent (I do not think that relationship was symbiotic in any way besides maintaining a pulse), and Radhan waiting for a chance to prove himself in the eyes of his dad's ex husband. What I found to be interesting and confusing are Firstly, the reasons behind Melania's march across TLB in the first place, because she appears to be the main aggressor aside from Morgot and his dominance of Leyndell, but his goals were fairly clear. I assumed it was to search for Miquella and she just missed the Teleport in the Snowfields, and likely it will be expanded on in the DLC. Second, that Godwyn isn't mentioned as being an Empyrean at all, which to look at things as they are, the basis for that decision is a matter of raw power and potential regardless of its form. That also might explain Marika's decision to become Radagon and pursue a second marriage as her first had failed to produce an heir and she knew the Erdtree would eventually fade. In that regard, I'd say Ranni has the most offensive ability that we get to experience, being cunning AND the only NPC that can blink you to death. Then Miquella having a specialty in academics and hypnosis. In regards to succession I'd say Melania is basically irrelevant because she actively chose to become Miquella's body guard, but for the sake of argument she's still powerful in her own right and holding back the power of another God.
@jaimais3527
Жыл бұрын
your voice really calms me down and you explain the lore in such a fun way, thanks for making these videos
@fayelawless2625
Жыл бұрын
there's a symbol on the side of marika's hammer that can be interpreted as jin or ku depending on how she's holding it, which is the name of a fox character from DBZ.
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