Just noticed on watching back that the CPU never pulled more than 20w! Any ideas? Or is the board just reading faulty?
@Midori_Ringo
3 күн бұрын
Pretty sure that 20w reading is wrong. 20w idle? Yeah that's reasonable for a CPU of this era. 20w at 70-80%+ load on a 84w TDP CPU? No chance that's correct. The platform itself isn't too bad though replace with a i7 4770 or 4790, cheap 120mm Heatsink, another 8 gb of Ram + RX 580 or 1060 6gb and you're playing most modern AAA titles with FSR for not a lot of money with mostly second hand parts. Also just as a sidenote, it didn't look like your i5 - 4460 ever hit it's boost clock of 3.4ghz. (it's not much but it helps) so check BIOS settings.
@andystech101
2 күн бұрын
Yeah I’m guessing it’s a faulty reading off the mother board as yes it should be at least 60w+! Might try a bios update to see if it fixes it or just leave it… No it never boosted under load really but it’s been replaced for a E3 1240v3 £12.50 well spent.
@Midori_Ringo
2 күн бұрын
@@andystech101 Shouldn't have to. Check your power setting in BIOS and also check power settings in Windows - if it's in eco mode or balanced it probably won't hit boost, should be at performance mode. This will affect your new cpu too. I can't remember if boards of this era had the modern easy way of updating BIOS or the old way with a possibility of unrecoverable bricking potential.
@AlfaPro1337
Күн бұрын
Haswell has a FIVR (fully integrated voltage regulator), that means the VRM that you usually see on the motherboard is moved to the CPU silicon itself. This attribute to the increase heat output, and likely why it's 'sipping' power--because there's voltage and heat wasted (the close to the 'core', the better). Just like how IF has a huge bottlenecking when compared to monolithic die. I remember some old PSU being mentioned to be 'incompatible' with Haswell, as when the chip went too low wattage due to system in idle, the PSU 'trips' thinking it's off. Then again H81 is pretty basic chipset, try using a H87 or Z87 chipset.
@bauer9101
4 күн бұрын
This will play 90% of my steam library just fine. Haswell and Maxwell still slugging away.
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
No such thing as a bad gaming pc just a bad use case 💪🏼
@Timmy51m
Күн бұрын
It's the same as my old Bitfenix Prodigy itx case inside, so I assume it's a Bitfenix case. You can't go wrong for £50 can you, £20 will got you an i7 4790 from CEX, 16gb ddr3 cheap as chips. Excellent retro rig.
@andystech101
Күн бұрын
Exactly what I’ve done, added the Xeon, cheap Ali express wifi card and an 8GB stick to make 16GB. Think I’m about another £22 in now. Ohw plus a 1TB HDD I had around. Get asked a lot at the moment for sub £200 systems for Roblox so it fits the bill and should double my money for other projects.
@DestelloTech
4 күн бұрын
Back in the good old days where Chillblast didn't bother charging to install Chrome 😂. Great video as always mate.
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
Haha! Yes shame on them…
@konstantine_c
4 күн бұрын
That's an amazing PC for 50 GBP! Would be nice to see a quick update video to show how much better it performs with that Xenon processor you mentioned as well as 16GB RAM in dual channel. And maybe then trying out a different GPU to see how much extra difference that makes.
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
Maybe we can do a quick one! I’d love to have to time to get more out and I’m trying to cut things down so I can! I may do a review on the E3 1240v3 Xeon as I’m interested in its full potential going forward! Not much but it’s probably enough to keep up with a 1660Ti/2060.
@AndyLayman
4 күн бұрын
Perfect video to wind down my workday, thanks for uploading! Glad to see a fellow Andy back again 💪
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
Thanks and glad to be of service to a fellow Andy 🙏🏼
@TrusteftTech
3 күн бұрын
Here I am with my GTX 860M, hearing you talk about this as a potato system! lol Fair enough. Yeah I think the extra RAM could help a lot with the 1% lows in some games. Regarding suggesting a Xeon CPU, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be a better purchase. Xeon CPUs (that I know of) lack an iGPU. That can hurt under certain circumstances, especially when talking about older hardware which are pushed to the limit today. The iGPU can take a load off the rest of the system at some times, which can be very useful when the PC is struggling to cope with whatever you are doing. Just putting that out there. I am sorry for your loss. That always sucks. I wish I have some comforting thing to say. I haven't found a way to not think about these things yet, so....good luck and stand strong. I have to say, that PC case...looks interesting. I like how the motherboard is parallel to the desk and that it has space for optical and FDD. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work.
@andystech101
3 күн бұрын
To be fair I have a lot more fun playing on these over my main system. Just a challenge to see what playable titles you can get out of them! If I’m board I’m usually playing old totalwar titles which run on anything. Honestly the Xeon’s are night and day Fortnite when up to 123 / 68 / 15 over 92 / 1 / 1! £12.50 well spent and i won’t get it coming back at me for the dreaded stutters 😅 Im tempted to recase this and turn/cut the case to make a second test bench for pre build testing! Only trouble is it’s mATX. Still cool though! Would be fun to put a 12900k and AIO in for a laugh Cheers and will do 🙏🏼
@grimmpickins2559
4 күн бұрын
Glad to see you back, Andy!
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
Thanks and much appreciated 🙏🏼
@voteDC
4 күн бұрын
I have an Aero Cool Integrator 750w semi-modular PSU that I bought at the end of 2018. According to the tier lists out there it is little better than a IED. Yet it has powered three generations of my gaming PC with the current one being a Ryzen 5 5600X, 32GB of DDR4 3600MHz, and a RTX 3060 12GB, two NVMes and three hard drives. I suspect the people who make these tier lists have never actually used the components they rate.
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
No I don’t pay attention to the tier list and I don’t think it’s anywhere near a real world ranking! Generally I go with my gut/feedback/trail and error! Corsair I’ve had the most problems with and they’re supposed to be a top brand… generally any £30/£40 PSU is going to be some sort of IED but I think budget goes over most reviewers heads as I don’t have £100+ to spend on a PSU haha
@voteDC
3 күн бұрын
@@andystech101 Same here. KZitemrs tend to rag on Kingston as a budget RAM brand for example but they've always been the most reliable in my experience.
@Midori_Ringo
3 күн бұрын
It depends what aerocool you got - the high end is very well regarded. The low end - not so much. The more reputable tier list have testing methdology and if you have a basic understanding of how voltages work and what they're testing for you will understand why some are not so good. Stuff like voltage ripple, voltage noise, soft/hard switching etc etc. The smaller components get - we're at 5nm CPU's now - the more sensitive they become to voltage issues. The reason your PSU scored so lowly was the internal components - capacitors/FETs are from a manufacturer that is very hit or miss. We're taking about miniscule differences like .5% failure rate vs 3% failure rate or 5% variation in voltage vs .05% . It's not much but on a grading scale it's a lot. As for your RAM comment - understand the purpose of the channels you are watching - they're not after stock standard stability - they're after overclock potential, high frequencies and fast timings etc on top of stability. That's where they fall down. It's not that they're bad, it's that they typically when they do the l33t gaming tests, they don't perform well in the standard test benches for those. Kingston is a reliable brand - majority of office PCs will use them, they just fall down at the performance sector (other than the Hyper X stuff) where 99% of tech youtubers are making content for. The Kingston Hyper X range is well regarded in the high performance sector. The Kingston Value range is not recommended in the performance sector.
@ZeRDTechGaming
3 күн бұрын
I just love these PCs; they're capable of playing many games, especially for under $100.
@andystech101
2 күн бұрын
100% agreed! It’s much more fun than more expensive stuff.
@DuneRunnerEnterprises
3 күн бұрын
Upgrade it to the max, with 4790,watercool it,add 1660 (any kind).
@andystech101
3 күн бұрын
I’ll poll it 💪🏼
@DuneRunnerEnterprises
2 күн бұрын
@@andystech101 Ok,roll with it!!
@AlexHusTech
3 күн бұрын
Nice little build for the price, hopefully can get 150ish after putting it up for 200ish.
@andystech101
3 күн бұрын
Cheers and not bad for an eBay job! £150 is what it’s going up for with the Xeon and 16GB ram. You can buy a lot worse.
@RobertFixit
4 күн бұрын
Ironically these specs are very close to my personal rig, and I just upgraded 😂😂😂 Did you just say CyberPunk and budget gaming in the same sentence?
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
I love Cyberpunk as it’s forgivingly brutal all at the same time haha! Nothing wrong with Haswell mate even in 2024. I ran a Dell 3020 for a few years before going to a 5600G when I started the channel it’s just been down hill since then haha! Still got the Dell though 💪🏼
@jonathanparker123
4 күн бұрын
Another video! I had nothing to watch, thanks alot lol
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
12 minutes you’ll never get back 😅
@refurbs1971
4 күн бұрын
Thats a nice little case for 10 year-old not too big, i think you should have added the ram and put I bought a £50 ebay Gaming PC for £55, Ha ha
@andystech101
4 күн бұрын
I could have cheated haha I’ve got draws of the stuff! May do a quick follow up just to see what it does with the Xeon and 16GB! Maybe overclock the balls off the 960 but Zotac cards have a habit of blowing up on me….
@refurbs1971
4 күн бұрын
@@andystech101 Ha Ha yes, that would be good, ye iv had a load of 'broken' Zotc cards in the past and XFX Ghost, may be the single fan, but the interwebs was flooded with HD7850/70 XFX Ghosts
@Playtrack22
2 күн бұрын
That pc should be retro emulator project.
@andystech101
2 күн бұрын
Like your thinking!
@pete8475
3 күн бұрын
1:50 - "stingle"
@andystech101
2 күн бұрын
I’m dyslexic so you’ll have to just roll with it 🙏🏼
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