Appreciate you being so transparent! We need more of this on KZitem! Keep up the good work :)
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jag 🙏 ❤️
@eggs-benny
Ай бұрын
That’s useful insight, thanks for sharing!
@atreidis3946
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Ridah. Thanks for your honesty. You have now a new wonderfull watch. I bought my VC blue back in nov. 2019 for MSRP 19.000€. Waiting time was 2 weeks. My AD said now its about 5 years...🙃
@floridaboybrandon954
2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😔
@MartinMezoek
2 ай бұрын
Waiting time down to weeks agin 😂
@davn7723
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great info
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure ❤️
@z0zz0s
2 жыл бұрын
It’s your money bro. If you want it & can afford it, no problem. Great watch. Congratulations.
@paulhom8423
2 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness cut to the book and lifting out the watch! That’s original. Never saw before. Gorgeous dial color!
@jerseyneil1
2 жыл бұрын
I like watches as much as the next guy. While I look for certain models from grey markets and overseas dealers, I find the hunt exciting but the price and negotiations to me are equally important as well. The worst feeling is getting something you wanted and realizing that you paid too much and you walk away feeling like a sucker. I certainly would not have felt good about your purchase. It may have been cheaper for you to fly out to the UAE and buy the watch in person. Plus, you get a mini-vacation too.
@tash_is_a_diva
2 жыл бұрын
😱 you got ripped off with the additional charges! No way you should have been charged such high fees… yes, shipping fees and import charges are applicable but not at those levels! I’m in supply chain so I know this was a rip off 🙈 Stunning timepiece btw 👌🏼
@jimiola2781
2 жыл бұрын
Ok how am I just discovering this channel???? Straight up my new favorite watch channel period!!! Excellent excellent content.
@andreac1441
2 жыл бұрын
What can I say, wonderful watch, the blue dial is wonderful, congratulations on your purchase, 10 years waiting list in Italy.
@czywatch2142
2 жыл бұрын
love Vacheron! ❤️
@BaoDai-kx1iv
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I got mine at boutique in 2020 for retail and have since gotten Rolex at the grey market. Forget the haters. I don't think we should feel 'lucky' to get something for retail (or wholesale) or have buyers remorse if we paid grey pricing. You like it, you can afford it, buy it. It's that simple. Congrats again! It is the watch that consistently gets the most wrist time for me. Beautiful dial, high horology and the comfort - especially with the micro adjustments - is unparalleled. Don't know why this was a sleeper for so long. I should have bought a rose gold one, too. Oh well maybe I'll go get put on the list.
@SoCalWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats brother, beautiful watch! @vacheron make my brother an ambassador ❤️
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Get well bro, when you back will defiantly pull a kick ass collab! About time Vacheron get me on payroll 😂 ❤️
@SoCalWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchSociety thank you 🙏 brother ❤️
@MohammadAWaly
2 жыл бұрын
I got mine at retail at the start of the Pandemic, seeing this video make me feel luck and grateful… I’m planning on coming to Dubai in March and am aiming to get that white strap
@stevenskliros9608
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch absolutely love Vacheron
@Landmantx
2 жыл бұрын
That is one of my grail watches. Absolutely love it!
@dickydarmali7861
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information about the additional charges.
@osvaldoperez8258
Жыл бұрын
I love your video, thanks.
@dooks85
2 жыл бұрын
I love the overseas. The way the lugs are it doesnt wear very well on my wrist though. Grats on the new beautiful watch!
@underdog5081
2 жыл бұрын
Really a beautiful watch. This and Rolex make best blue dial I’ve seen. AP blue dial is a little underwhelming. Congrats!
@bigjspore5698
2 жыл бұрын
Next time use Ferrari Logistics, they specialize in luxury items and would have told you exactly all fees before you shipped.
@rb3782
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely watch. I had a similar experience ordering a watch overseas. Tip for import, do the import forms yourself and stick most of the cost in the “movement” category on the form, which carries the lowest tax rate.
@fire_watch7735
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ridah, Congrats and great watch! FYI- All overseas watch transactions are subject to 18-25% in duties, taxes, brokerage fees, and other misc. costs. That’s why the Seller says the buyers is responsible for all other costs. Sometimes when watches are ship through US Postal or Japan postal sometimes slip through without some of those costs but that’s only if you’re lucky. Cheers
@beluwuga
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Nice.. “Overseas” watch transactions.. that was good.
@culturehorse
2 жыл бұрын
What about offers to ship without value declared for customs and taxes purposes, does that significantly reduce those ridiculous overage estimates? thx.. (Guy on ebay is selling DJ 2 for 5k .. from Ukraine ..thinking about it) thanks
@fire_watch7735
2 жыл бұрын
@@culturehorse It does not. I’m fact, it causes greater issues as the authorities (customs & brokers) will assign a value and it could be worse. There is no way to get around paying. Cheers
@culturehorse
2 жыл бұрын
@@fire_watch7735 👍
@Amaru_r
2 жыл бұрын
Your collection is getting insanee Ridah 🔥
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Amaru 🙏❤️
@Antonios.P2312
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for your new amazing VC.!! I wish you will wear it in good health.!! I had the same problem with a watch purchace from UK to Greece..! I was lucky enough to cancel my order and the next week i booked a flight , went to UK and purchased the watch from a grey market dealer.!
@jameswestconsultant
2 жыл бұрын
They peaked at $62K for the blue dial version, but have recently corrected to about $38K. They’ll go back up as Nautilus & Royal Oak models will continue to drive this piece as the aforementioned are very pricey and really no better of a watch. I’ve had the black dial a couple years ago paying about $20K complete. I have a 21’ blue dial now and wear it on the rubber. Great piece and finally getting the attention from collectors it deserves 🙌🏻
@johnscott4693
Жыл бұрын
No. They won’t.
@jameswestconsultant
Жыл бұрын
@@johnscott4693 they’ve remained at + $32K with the Black dial version trading slightly less. Still way over the $17K I paid in 2020 ☝🏻
@eliasyannisvogt9187
2 ай бұрын
They are 25k in Switzerland rn
@jact12
2 жыл бұрын
Great pickup Ridah, as long as you’re happy with your purchase. Luckily in HK, we don’t get taxed so the blue 4500 new is around $41k usd.
@tbd1613
2 жыл бұрын
Ridah, you can never go wrong buying a watch that you like. The way to look at this is that you have the Rose Gold VC at retail which is currently trading way above MSRP and you paid for the stainless steel Overseas above MSRP, I would say based on current pricing of both watches in the grey market you are still way ahead. Wear it and enjoy it. Its safe money. Looking forward to your next video my friend!!!
@nofameculture
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's something else that you never hear about! Great video!
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@kimkruse4576
2 жыл бұрын
Man Ridah, I feel you. I am so in love with the Overseas, already before the rest of the watch mob had it on the radar as an Royal Oak alternative. You made a nice purchase (again 😉).
@Dunkindonuts644
7 ай бұрын
Hi you know they upgraded the watch. 4520v 0.31mm thinner,tapered bracelet and easier deployment.
@Neto_BCO
2 жыл бұрын
So why aren’t you telling us about the Grey Market Dealer ?
@TheMuffinator
2 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful watch. I put my name on the waiting list for it back in July. I really hope that someday soon I'll get a call to buy it.
@mariusz8751
2 жыл бұрын
Love this watch, love your content. Good job.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mariusz, it is your kind words that keeps me going
@chrisromieh2683
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Awesome watch, and really great video! Keep it up mate.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Chris ❤️
@Chaness100
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations man! I am hoping to add the traditional open work to my collection this year, my boutique should come through for me. I am growing a little tiered of sports watch. Just a little.
@kevinbermingham3135
2 жыл бұрын
Eye opening video. Thanks for sharing, no one ever mentions this. Based in UK, wonder how many of those taxes would apply to me. Probably all, bar the UAE tax. Feel it is a shame to have to pay grey market prices, like others have said, if you can afford it. Shame Vacheron could not do a bit more for you as a valued customer, but even Ed Sheeran had to wait for his watches, from his new Hodinkee video, everyone waits.
@NaVirazhah
Ай бұрын
Beautiful watch! I’m waiting for it from AD with an expected delivery time in 2025. I wish I would order it earlier.
@xXxToRtuR3xXx
2 жыл бұрын
Would have been cheaper to fly to US and buy it 😂 Great watch though love the dial. 👌
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
True
@travelandwatches8
2 жыл бұрын
except, if you get caught by customs when you get back.
@xXxToRtuR3xXx
2 жыл бұрын
@@travelandwatches8 be realistic you're not bringing 100 watches
@jamesdangg
2 жыл бұрын
congrats mate, really love this piece too, im waiting for my order, in south east asia its arround 55k
@floridaboybrandon954
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations brother 💯
@CJ-rb3do
2 жыл бұрын
Big ups on the new piece brother. That is a lot of cheese for a VC. However, this piece will jump in price soon, so you actually got a deal. Congratulations. However, I’d have gone for a Urban Jurgensen 5241instead, a CZAPEK Antarctic Passage de Drake or the new ROMAIN GAUTHIER Continuum - Titanium Edition One. Big up brother. And you honesty is appreciated.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Yo CJ, how you been? CZAPEK is on the map! The Antarctic passage de drake is 🔥 🔥
@mikefry5704
2 жыл бұрын
Nice vlog great watch good advice. Enjoy
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏❤️
@mikefry5704
2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchSociety anytime 🙏
@sofyankh82
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative about gray market, first time I heard about this extra fees
@Rulybanuelos
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! You know I love the 4500v, but you paid a grand seiko in taxes lol! Beautiful watch Ridah!
@martinj5364
2 жыл бұрын
Niceeeeee Bro, enjoyyyy 🤗🤗
@MartinGarthwaite
2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased this watch from the boutique in Dubai, I only had to wait a year, I was able to get on the wait list because I purchased the Overseas in steel with the black dial. They are beautiful watches
@watchfalcon122
2 жыл бұрын
The reason the dealer didn’t tell you about the hidden charges is because it would have scared you off as you mentioned. It’s not their charge so they shouldn’t have to absorb that headwind when it comes to sales. Thanks for sharing to keep others informed. Also that’s the most beautiful blue dial I’ve seen.
@neilbayley7539
2 жыл бұрын
Wow would love that vc 😍 out of my League great video
@kevincorkery6292
Жыл бұрын
That blue and stainless is beautiful!!
@JoseNunez-sz2vf
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new timepiece it’s beautiful! Sorry you had to go through all of that and thank you for sharing it really helps! I am currently in a similar situation where I might go grey for a royal oak but I might end up going with that vacheron. The more I look at it the more I fall In love with it! 😍
@robertopersico3745
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing watch, but what a price !!! Enjoy 😉
@galenmarek6949
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! Don't even start to feel bad about it. Here in Europe, 0n Apr. 13, 2022, the cheapest blue dial (4500V/110A-B128) goes for 72,000 Euros, not dollars, in Ireland. The black dial (4500V/110A-B483) goes for 49,000 Euros. Both brand new from 2022, stainless steel, with the caliber 5100. Your deal was a steal by european standards. Congrats!
@seaguls9974
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the candid experience you are sharing! Given you had the rose gold version, perhaps you could have gone with something else, more importantly Vacheron Boutique would have got that for you. As much as you can afford to buy from after market despite addl surprise fees, the overall experience of getting a watch from AD/Boutique is something else.
@thomasrusso1411
2 жыл бұрын
Wempe in New York you can get the black dial and silver dial at retail the blue there’s a waiting list
@drcustomizer
2 жыл бұрын
The stainless steel looks way better than the rose gold and compliments your skin complexion. One day I’ll own one too fingers crossed
@PrimeCollectibles
Жыл бұрын
Great vid bro, just subbed.
@flatearthbear4077
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the heads up and thank you 🙏
@floridaboybrandon954
2 жыл бұрын
Ehh it’s kind of the same but what hurt(phrase not opinion) you brother is the international purchase. I’ve been looking at the exact same watch I love Vacheron but your videos have made me want the model even more “just keep rubbing it in Ridah 😂” But I’m In Ft Lauderdale Florida If I buy that from Roman Sharf at Luxury Bizarre I wouldn’t pay taxes. If it was $45,000 usd I would’ve paid $45k flat but I may or may not of paid shipping from Philadelphia to Florida (sometimes they wave it for good etiquette). But it’s a lovely watch like I said we talked about it on the rose gold VC4500 video and we both laughed and said the stainless would go amazing with a grey rubber strap and even a white one and you said I agree and here you are with that match. Beautiful piece.
@bettersteps
Жыл бұрын
I've always known about these charges. That's why I always buy Vacheron Constantin in bulk. The savings is insane.
@cavaliericorey
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel and choice in watches
@robertlulek1634
2 жыл бұрын
I have a vacheron blue dial steel chronograph that I purchased at nine months ago I put a deposit on it I'm still waiting for it atlas price at 32,000. It's worth the wait it's already doubled in price
@ALLinHerMovements
2 жыл бұрын
Ok Ridah, now we’re going to need to see you reflect on VC vs AP. What’s the experience like with each? I love your gold Overseas so much. You got me thinking....
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Good shout! Yes possibly, even better if I could bring you in as part of the video! What do you think? Penny, the gold Overseas will kill hurt pockets, for sure! But you will never wear another watch after it 😂 I promise!
@Giovan_Nino
2 жыл бұрын
Great watch..👍 we live and learn thanks.?.
@Sams911
Жыл бұрын
You got taken to the cleaners man... I've bought a dozen high end watches over the years from gray market dealers, and I NEVER pay more than $0 for shipping (usually insured, over night) and the negotiated price of the watch.. I also NEVER buy from out of the USA. Anyway, I just picked up the black dial version, low key, stealth wealth looks... not really sure why the hype over the blue? bing factor?.. blue dials are a dime a dozen it seems.
@WatchloverPJ
4 ай бұрын
Buy the way thank you for letting us know about all the taxes and maybe we should not be impulsive when it comes to this addictive hobby. lol😃
@fame0095
2 жыл бұрын
Nice, im looking for my first VC but the white dial. You did good, that watch os trading $65-$70k.
@2536528
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 53K for a 22K retail watch. AD’s are getting seriously paid to back door these watches to gray market dealers. Pure profit.
@ninefingercollectormax3666
2 жыл бұрын
Should just fly over here purchase it and wear it back nice watch bro
@f.r.cofresi3497
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, very nice watch. How much the AD of Vacheron wants for these models, it seems that all the hot watches are now waiting list. My Rolex AD now has exhibition models; I feel like this year will be different to order from them; time will tell. In the meantime, enjoy in good health those watches, peace brother.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@dsvillalva
2 жыл бұрын
Love all your honesty in this video and for giving us an insight on the grey market. I'm patiently waiting for my blue steel Overseas from my local boutique. I expect it to be a 1-2 year wait.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you dvolla, the recommendation is persistence, pop by from time to time and ask the question of how soon etc. hope you get it soon bud ❤️
@dsvillalva
2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchSociety Thank you! I hope to get it soon too. I bought the 34mm blue dial diamond bezel for my lady at the boutique last October. It's a stunning piece - and I'm hoping to get mine to match.
@Wise.Wealth.Wisdom.
2 жыл бұрын
I have the Vacheron Constantin FiftySix. I love it.
@japd7897
2 жыл бұрын
The biggest portion (over 50%) of a watch price is retail margin and taxes (i.e. in Spain a Rolex is a compound of 21% VAT and 40% retailer margin).
@JergenSplergen
2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate going over the actual price. Very useful.
@michaeljordan6008
9 ай бұрын
Love the watch, but can’t pay over MSRP.
@nathanbee4597
2 жыл бұрын
In Australia we are charged 10% tax & 5% customs on the total value (incl Shipping). Although i generally have the international seller minus their local taxes (i.e 19% VAT in Germany) which they are happy to do as they are exporting the goods - so it generally works out pretty even. Great watch, blue dial 4500V is what i initially wanted until i watched some youtube clips (incl yours) on the black dial dual time (7900V) and it's now my daily. Unaware if you can contact your seller to see if they can refund their local taxes, may be worth a conversation?
@larryle3572
Жыл бұрын
Nice. These are at 27k new now on the grey market . So you can buy 2 for what you paid
@alc1824
2 жыл бұрын
Ridah, I must say I think you went totally impulsive on this purchase specially for the fact that you already have the same exact watch with the same exact dial in pink gold and you paid the same if not more for the stainless version?! 🤔 It is a beautiful watch no doubt but to have two of the same model in different metal is little redundant for me personally. I would’ve gone for the blue or black just to change it up a little. I definitely understand the sickness we have as I also spend a lot of time and money on our crazy hobby and trust me my friend I’ve made some large impulse purchases as well🤫! But obviously that just goes to show how incredibly gorgeous and intoxicating that blue dial is! On another note I was extremely fortunate and I was able to purchase from the authorized dealer a 4600 E on the bracelet! 🥳 It is absolutely gorgeous and I am extremely happy that it is still a sleeper and not a hyped model as I got “the call” just over five weeks after getting on the list.
@StarScream7ZZ
9 ай бұрын
The Vacheron Constantin Overseas stainless steel blue dial 4500V is also what made me fall in love with Vacheron. I know I am stating the obvious but that blue dial is mesmerizing and I want to dive right in
@rassf1
5 ай бұрын
To think you can buy a new/unworn nowadays for under $30K, i.e. 10-15% over retail... The market has corrected, for sure.
@dr.kevinmoore8889
24 күн бұрын
I called the Dallas VC boutique last week looking for a silver dial Overseas three hand. They have their last one allocated for the year coming in next week and I put a deposit on it. I get it next week.
@nicholasalonso45
2 жыл бұрын
Hey ridah can you do a review on the VC fifty six collection! Especially on the complete calendar.
@10alexa10
2 жыл бұрын
I like your taste. My only problem is you ve got the watches that i havent and your promotion makes it even more difficult to get them.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
😂 to come think about it, you are right.
@edchang9521
2 жыл бұрын
Great review love your transparency for other fellow collectors. Looking to pick up one from the grey dealers here in the US. Any advice appreciated cheers
@audemarspiguet4237
2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy and even dishonest from the seller. I find it annoying to pay these additional fees and charges when buying from abroad, hence why I try to only buy locally now
@chrisgreen764
Жыл бұрын
I find items from China take weeks to arrive, but they do 'doctor' the declared amount. America is a disaster, taking almost as long and with a huge tax bill. Now Europe is the same. You're right. I try and buy from within the U.K.
@rahulxsood
Жыл бұрын
I think sometimes we overpay for something we absolutely want. With that said as long as you're happy with it, it doesn't matter.
@deaz629
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that VC was highly demanded and hard to get. Crazy to think it has become so difficult to get stuff even when you have the cash.
@beluwuga
2 жыл бұрын
Are you crazy or something it’s part of the Holy Trinity ofcourse it is highly sought after... otherwise why wouldn’t it be there tho?
@19NJS71
2 жыл бұрын
why dont you consider the dual time? the black dial with red accents is beautiful.
@theladder06
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new purchase…it’s awesome 👍 You did what you had to do since you wanted the watch immediately. The cost is irrelevant because that is only determined by you and obviously you can afford the cost even on the gray market. A banger of a watch and I’m envious-enjoy!!!
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Well said bro, i knew i had to go for it, honestly no regret at all! I absolutely love it. What are your thoughts on the new Vacheron openworked traditionelle?
@theladder06
2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchSociety I think anything Vacheron should be admired for their history, beauty and cfratfsmanship. The Traditionnelle line is a beautiful dress watch. The Overseas is so much more versatile… Jeans, shorts or a T-shirt, doesn’t matter, she’s a thing of beauty✌️
@richrumble
2 жыл бұрын
A magnificent watch. I envy you.
@vannakmak1398
2 жыл бұрын
Back again 🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭brother ❤️
@aaronming8466
2 жыл бұрын
I got my VC overseas in 2019 from a local AD. I’ve worn it on weekends, and it has just stopped working last week. ( it’s out of warranty) I never had this issue with Rolex or Patek..
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Really? Have you tried taking it to the boutique? Really interested in the outcome, if you can please share. Hope you get it fixed asap
@alectang1614
2 жыл бұрын
I live in Hong Kong. I pay 0% extra.:D Oh and I got the Chrono blue with 25% off back then, just before it became a boutique exclusive. Ridiculous prices now.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
I recall the days, well done Alec 🙏
@sanjivrpatel
2 жыл бұрын
I think you’re going to get a lot of negative feedback on this one. They could have told you, but it’s understandable that they didn’t. I think most people who buy across borders are savvy enough to know there are additional costs. It’s good that you highlight this, so others can learn from your experience, but you really should have known - in fact you it’s hard to believe you didn’t know. Keep up the good work.
@villagranvicent
2 жыл бұрын
It is the buyer's problem to do some research on their local fees, not the seller.
@rezm5247
2 жыл бұрын
Reda, you should not have paid US taxes! You need to reclaim that; if the dealer shipped overseas the items, are tax exempt.
@WatchSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it bro
@robertlulek1634
2 жыл бұрын
I have a vacheron blue dial steel chronograph that I purchased a nine months ago I put a deposit on it I'm still waiting for it at list price of 32,000. It's worth the wait it's already doubled in price
@howardchen3456
Жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s not usually worth buying internationally unless you’re in an international airport
@jolstannard
Жыл бұрын
Mad how much these have corrected, bought last month for 96,000aed
@alfonsopartida901
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, for 8k maybe a quick joyride and pick up the watch in person would have been better 🤔 Saludos desde México
@rpsingapore2005
2 жыл бұрын
The next rocket VC6000v if not already!
@CWO4D
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Riyadh for this Vid.....very meaningful comments..... (-"
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