I feel like you could really lean into that weird feedback sound and make some pretty haunting horror soundtrack style songs with this thing.
@draugr905
2 жыл бұрын
thats how id play it
@DrJrGenius
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that feedback/resonance sounds very similar to that of a Waterphone
@bright218
2 жыл бұрын
I think it lends it's way to last of us soundtrack feel, right?
@4Bakers
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Everything soundtrack (Everything is the name of a neat steam game)
@bruellwitz
2 жыл бұрын
Also my first thought! That would be amazing. Imagine the goosebump potential!
@Saltytoastplebs
2 жыл бұрын
Me: makes a violin shaped like a violin The violin: (demonic screeches) This dude: makes a box with strings The violin: (angelic chanting)
@fatitankeris6327
Жыл бұрын
You should put effort into acoustic qualities for sure, that comes before the looks.
@iandeare1
Жыл бұрын
It's called a Trapezoid Violin, and a hundred years ago one built by a professional Luthier was favourably compared to a Stradivarius in a blind test... The validity of the test may be debatable, my reference: Violin-making as it was and is, by Heron-Allen, Edward Published 1885 Was for many years, including my time as a student Luthier, considered the Violin Maker's Bible; but, it's author's reputation has diminished somewhat, more recently, he was, in truth, a collector, rather than a technician 😉
@tomasotreasaigh111
6 ай бұрын
@@iandeare1 If it stood the test of time and was considered the 'Violin Makers Bible' for so long, then surely it would mean any recent revelations about the authors 'credentials' are purely academic at this point? ;-) If the books information was deemed important (pious even, lol) for almost 150 yrs, then I would assume to dismiss it now is a form of (the all too common) music snobbery, don't you think? Just a thought, peace and best wishes to you all from Ireland, keep making music x
@mjordan4251
2 жыл бұрын
I love how casually you just invented, made and played this amazing instrument. Kudos man 🤘🏻
@sahandn9
2 жыл бұрын
I think the "feedback" sound you're expecting is actually a resonance. I can't tell how it's occurring exactly but maybe has to do with the shape of the chamber
@JGHFunRun
2 жыл бұрын
There's a good chance that the amount of movement is simply more than would normally happen for a spring reverb which causes a bit of issues, best I can think of since it sounds a bit like when you hit one. Sadly I don't have one of these so I can't test that theory, and in fact it could just be that it's inside something designed specifically to resonate
@Aeduo
2 жыл бұрын
@@JGHFunRun I was thinking maybe it was the vibration of the note being played beating on the vibration of the sound held by the springs. It kinda had the beating interference sound to it of 2 close frequencies constructing and destructing with each other.
@JGHFunRun
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aeduo that also would make sense
@bowdownandobey
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe sympathetic vibrations?
@wickharr
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if larger f holes could help?
@LockOfImage
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I have never heard a violin this sad... I love it!!! Will definitely try to simulate the sound digitally.
@Zavendea
2 жыл бұрын
That strange “feedback” effect is definitely you hitting the resonant frequency of a spring. Sounds exactly like a wolf note on a cello (which is happens when you hit the resonant frequency of the body of the instrument.)
@justaweeb9086
2 жыл бұрын
Learned some new today. Thanks
@itstyromusic
2 жыл бұрын
Having a sort of "Dampening" mechanism to mute the springs when you want less or no reverb would be awesome. Bassically like a cloth pad on a lever you can move with your chin to mess with the reverb. Just a thought. :)
@TheVarkol
2 жыл бұрын
This!
@warlordtf9608
2 жыл бұрын
Use the chinpiece akin to a pianist pedal, I like it +1
@MrJasonodonnell
2 жыл бұрын
I had a home made Valve amp from the 70's years ago. I played around with putting thin bands of ShrinkWrap on reverb springs, also tried adhesive foam. The shrink wrap was cool.
@DavidHilowitzMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I have to try that!
@PeterEvans_music
2 жыл бұрын
That would sound very cool for mandolin, because the unfreted strings are supposed to resonate for certain styles it would be like having continual ringing strings which would be great
@eagereyes
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! You probably won't be able to do this through the sound holes, but I figure adding a bit of damping (like cotton or some thin pieces of fabric) would help control the reverb without reducing it too much.
@DavidHilowitzMusic
2 жыл бұрын
I actually might be able to do this? Somewhere I have a tiny dentist's mirror that I would need to use to actually see what I was doing. :)
@eagereyes
2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidHilowitzMusic Ah, neat! And your crazy sound post tool might work to get things into place. Seems worth a shot to me; it sounds fantastic IMHO, just needs to be reigned in a bit.
@brad42948
2 жыл бұрын
Not really - spring reverb is independent of air volume (unless you're intending to pack the spring enclosure itself with fabric... which would have some effect, mainly in reducing the upper frequencies 👍)
@bronsoncarder2491
2 жыл бұрын
@@brad42948 If the cloth is in the right position, the spring will contact the cloth when it goes out of control, dampening it.
@daneguitarist1
2 жыл бұрын
could you put like.... a movable level sort of deal that can mute the reverb tank, or dampen? really cool! I hope new instruments come from this :)
@theaquariancontrarian3316
Жыл бұрын
Very eerie and beautiful!
@CardamomCake
2 жыл бұрын
Super awesome. Isn’t this technically a pickup system too? I never seen a non piezo pickup system for a bowed string instrument.
@linqua1728
Жыл бұрын
I wager a lot of people would enjoy building your hobby ideas and the jobs that would create. I enjoy your videos, thank you.
@xnooknooknook
2 жыл бұрын
Decent Sample pack worthy. What a great sound.
@Shameless-Plugs-TM
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Please create a Decent Sampler library from it!
@disacramento_music
2 жыл бұрын
Up
@disacramento_music
2 жыл бұрын
There are folks like me ho would love to have some samples of this masterpiece
@betodealmeida4040
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please!
@JamesWatsonComposer
11 ай бұрын
This is the violin of the future! Sounds great for sound design in media projects.
@joshbabbitt9243
Жыл бұрын
After watching many videos, I had no idea you played violin like that...nor that you build them. Love finding what other vices each musician I encounter also likes to mess with. Like it's always visable whatever someone is headfirst into...(Like a guitarist for example.) But then, you later find out they play the keys and then the drums and then even wild synths at home, after work, lol. I guess I don't know what I'm really getting at, but it seems we never ever want to stop making music, somehow.
@SPLENDIDZEN
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent proyect Mr. David Hilowitz!... Congrats!... Cordial greetings from Madrid(Spain)!!!...
@VioletMidnightProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Oh now I want to make my own violin!
@vicsardou9654
2 жыл бұрын
That's really neat. Really like the sound. I also like your experimentation. I was wondering if you could could dampen the springs? Cotton balls? Felted wood? With some sort of adjustment. Thanks.
@RocktheProject
Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of when Andrew Bird recorded an album under the Hyperion River bridge in L.A., on the record appropriately titled “Echolocations: River”.
@micah_noel
2 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful man. I found this from the homemade instruments FB page and I think I may be inspired to experiment with springs in my own fiddles.
@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet
2 жыл бұрын
How David accidentally created a superb sounding violin. I mean you could record it for movie soundtracks and I doubt anyone would think "hmm this violin doesn't sound pro enough". And when it falls apart, just glue it back together! Don't forget to use the same glue for the signature sound %) Let's make a library out of it too!
@nicholaswalker7198
Жыл бұрын
Try using different rubber washers with varying softness and rigidity between the chassis and the wood like shock absorbers. I’m going to try this! Thanks for the video!
@FLH3official
2 жыл бұрын
The soundpost: In French this piece is called l'âme, the soul. Poetic.
@Swenglish
2 жыл бұрын
This sound would be great for movie scoring.
@msamour
2 жыл бұрын
Well, ain't this guy just a regular Stradivarius! It does sound nice. He might be onto something there.
@JonDeth
8 ай бұрын
*Very, very clever!*
@zeromt3577
2 жыл бұрын
Great work! I can't wait to try out the Decent Sample library you posted too. Also, I don't know if this was intentional, but the lighting and colors in your workbench shots (from roughly 0:25 to 5:15 ) are extremely soothing and meditative. Those shots (or similar), possibly at slower speeds, would make a great, ambient "music video" for a track or two of the big, swelling reverbs you're getting out of that great super cool box violin.
@karingriffinelectricacoust8822
2 жыл бұрын
Dave…love your demo!
@doctorauxiliary
2 жыл бұрын
this is just plain fantastic!! bravo!!
@WinnieRoseReyes
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely haunting sound. Fabulous! Happiness!
@velazquezarmouries
2 жыл бұрын
Square violins look really nice
@thomasmartinscott
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Looks cool and sounds GREAT!
@heyitsburt
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! I just subscribed this past week and have not been disappointed yet! So many ideas for projects now!
@BF-up5xw
2 жыл бұрын
That sense of danger of everything getting too crazy makes it even more poignant to listen to. It can be understated and yet still sound dangerous. The Brown Sound of violins!
@Ithirahad
2 жыл бұрын
This is a rabbit hole that needs deeper diving. One could probably make an amazing-sounding acoustic instrument (or several - what about dulcimers, for instance? erhu? even wind instruments?) by purpose-building a good spring array for this use case.
@robwebnoid5763
Жыл бұрын
I've done the same thing decades ago on my 1970's Conn home keyboard organ with that resonation & noise from the spring reverb tank, as when you push or bump around the organ which makes the springs go wack.
@pattmahiney
2 жыл бұрын
Man, music is cool.... This is awesome, dude. Thanks for sharing
@SmolFrogge
2 жыл бұрын
"Looking into the wistful mist, lost in memories one cannot recant. Mired in the echoes." Yes it is a very inspiring sound.
@robertodemenezeslyra3586
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, this will be greatfull to improuve the sound of some kind of Rabeca Violin from Brazil.
@arampianist
2 жыл бұрын
this totally belongs in a film score!!! so awesome!!!
@AAIVE
2 жыл бұрын
i love the texture of the finished product on my ears, what a cool thing you made! music experiments are so beyond worth embarking on. :)
@alexanderdornier7245
2 жыл бұрын
That‘s a really cool video and I‘m only a few minutes in… The introduction was very good. I like the fact, that you explain, what a reverb spring does.
@guitfidle
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is my first visit to your channel, and I absolutely love this!! I recently bought a cheap violin neck and hardware to put on a cigar box, also recently set up a cheap violin with octave strings (one fifth above the tuning of a cello!), and have yet another cheap violin I will be setting up with flourocarbon ukulele strings just to see what it sounds like (make sure you get a non-reentrant set, so the low string is the fattest). I have also in the past made a teardrop violin completely from scratch- carved the neck, fingerboasrd, tailpiece, and scratch made bridge. I also have a few reverb tanks sitting in my garage, a couple new old stock and a couple used ones..... I think I might have to give this a try! Thanks for the inspiration 😍😍
@rabiolied
2 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be quite a good idea to try and maybe ship this out to people and stuff as it's own instrument because it really does look and sound like a whole different instrument from the regular violin
@Mike-hr6jz
2 жыл бұрын
You could put a foot pedal with a mechanical brake cable that goes to the violin and dampens the springs when you need to just a thought
@normapadro420
Жыл бұрын
It sounds so beautiful. Your idea was really cool. If it does fall apart make another one. It's worth it.😊
@howlinhobbit
2 жыл бұрын
this is intriguing in concept and rather glorious in sound, but boring old me would be happy with a plain jane box violin, simply to have another sound on my palette. in any event, it got you another subscriber. be well!
@JoshIsMakingMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Really awesome. I don't even know how to play violin and this makes me want to learn, and make a reverb violin at the same time.
@ianwattsOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Well done ✅🏆👍 sounds great, one man orchestra 👍
@davidbraid8429
Жыл бұрын
remarkable - like a viola d'amore but more!
@DJZofPCB
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your exploration, and wonderful discovery that opens doors for those who can imagine and be inspired
@avielp
Жыл бұрын
Without the reverb it also sounds realy good
@MrAshleysPlace
2 жыл бұрын
As a non musical person and more of a maker I did really enjoy that! The sound was very haunting. Cool video!!!
@c123bthunderpig
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of The Theremin what a great sound, Bach would sound awesome.
@jamessteidl5260
2 жыл бұрын
I loved this. It's much cooler to have reverb when unplugged.
@elcharrosays
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, subscribed. Absolutely fascinating.
@iissamiam
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen something similar on cigar box instruments (violins, ukuleles, and such). People have attached ordinary, household springs, like what you can find in hardware stores, to the inside and it achieves a similar effect. And I think the heavier springs are more resistant to the overloading feedback. Although they weren’t using electronic pickups.
@Mr.MarlonRiver
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!!!!
@DonKelleyMusic
2 жыл бұрын
whoa.... THAT IS SO COOL!
@robertchamberlain
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@danielemerson312
2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a book about Victorian-era inventions, and there was mention of a violin which had internal resonator strips connected to the bridge. Apparently the great maestro Joseph Joachim was very intrigued by the design. This reverb tank takes the idea a bit further.
@wilsoncalhoun
2 жыл бұрын
There's also the much older viola d'amor and hardanger fiddle.
@jt-la777
2 жыл бұрын
Sound amazing ! 🤯❤️❤️❤️
@TxmmyBeats
2 жыл бұрын
So cool!
@glowinggrenade
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a professional luthier but I did read up a design document that the soundpost-bridge combo is meant to act as a lever system to convert the horizontal movement of the strings into a vertical movement on the sound board, and the soundpost acts as the stiffness required for one side of the lever to work.
@VIRGONOMICS
2 жыл бұрын
Make the spring tension adjustable - use a dial or something to put pressure on reverb tank stretching the springs and lessening the effect .
@VIRGONOMICS
2 жыл бұрын
Like an overhanging spring loaded mount that attaches and by putting pressure on it , it should control the tension and saturation.
@VIRGONOMICS
2 жыл бұрын
I hope this makes sense -
@indiefilmandmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Very much like an Indian sarangi. Instead of springs, it's 32 resonating strings.
@TheErilaz
2 жыл бұрын
Taggelharpa also has those.
@blaizerhodes
2 жыл бұрын
If you drill your hole from the other side you won't get so much tear out... or use masking type on the far side before you drill.
@DavidHilowitzMusic
2 жыл бұрын
good advice. thanks!
@internationalicon
2 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack for lonely drifting ghosts …
@thecatofnineswords
2 жыл бұрын
For a vid shown to me by The Algorithm (All hail the algorithm) this is a really nifty concept. I'm very interested in the experimentation you're doing and the effects you're getting.
@madmusicianmagician
2 жыл бұрын
Truly beautiful sound, really great idea 💡
@glenesis
2 жыл бұрын
Dude! Great idea!
@docbobster
2 жыл бұрын
great idea!
@FunnFoto
2 жыл бұрын
Man this is so awesome. I wonder if you only limited it to one spring coil maybe you could find a sweet spot. As a dancer that works with different musicians I would jump at a chance to work with some who had this. I am sure it reacts differently than just using an array of peddels. Keep rocking.
@Mevzuderin
2 жыл бұрын
I guess you have to make some sort of mechanic that you can control the tightness of the springs. If you want to controll the vibration ofc
@rasmusn.e.m1064
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In cigar box guitars, some makers use box mattress springs with hooks on them and then attach them to screw-in hooks attached at an angle inside the body. You can then turn the screw-in hooks to tighten the springs, or even adjust the height so you can control whether the spring is touching the soundboard or not. Dell Puckett has an excellent video on that: kzitem.info/news/bejne/zYB6qZ6lk3yKaWU
@DavidHilowitzMusic
2 жыл бұрын
That’s really cool!!
@johnsulistyo9856
2 жыл бұрын
Inspiring. I'm going to make a lapsteel gtr based on this principal idea.
@timothym9398
Жыл бұрын
So... I've been poking at files for producing 3d printed violins. I think it would be entirely viable to have a design with a left hand thumb button to either place (or remove) a lever to silence the springs to turn them on or off. I wager you could pull off the same with a spring mechanism and some string with a wooden instrument.
@Privateerblack
2 жыл бұрын
Sure it may fall apart in a year or so, but that just means that, now that you know it's a good idea that works, you can build a better one.
@jaderington
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@paintboy360olie
2 жыл бұрын
What violin makers don't want you to know!🤓
@chodnejabko3553
2 жыл бұрын
First of all use the springs alone, without the metal plate, which is designed to isolate the strings from the mounting points. You don't need the transducers as well. Second - attach one end of a string where the vibration is produced (directly under the bridge). You should glue a mirror bridge under the original bridge, and attach springs to the tip, as if they are mirror strings inside the box. In this way you will get the full spectrum of vibration transduced to your springs and thus get a full spectrum reverb. Right now the only sounds amplified by the springs are those that resonate with them, because they are the only vibration that can travel through air and skip the dampers. Reverb strings should be designed in such way as to exactly avoid resonance in the given spectrum (weight, length, wire thickness).
@timbetween
2 жыл бұрын
Fender reverb, man. It's just that much boingier. Well done!
@Psionetics
2 жыл бұрын
So neat! I wonder if I could get one into my charango somehow....
@yurr7408
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this should be recorded with an external mic rather than a pickup... It definitely sounds better In Real Life because the body is dampening many of those unwanted vibration noises. And external mic may pickup the sound much cleaner, and be more comparable to what you hear in your room
@AndreaGiordaniComposer
2 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@notshared4072
2 жыл бұрын
This is really fascinating, but instead of a mechanical reverb I would wish to hear a transducer like the kind Yamaha uses in their Transacoustic guitars and pianos. Can a $40 violin with some completely hidden components outperform a hyper-expensive violin? I think that maybe it could with the right processing.
@lapboard340
2 жыл бұрын
Try soldering a capacitor across the Jack poles.
@kenneth1767
2 жыл бұрын
Reverb springs on a slider that can be 'tuned'? You're forgiven this time for using woodglue and not hideglue. Great sound.
@emiliano_pena
Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Wouldnt it be amazing to have it with a muting (or sustain) pedal (or handle) to tap in between some note changes? like one would do on piano, reseting the springs to avoid some undesired clashes. I'm clueles on where and how to place it though, due to my lack of knowledge of the instrument and its practice
@ambiention
2 жыл бұрын
Prediction: will sound pretty cool, but handling noise will be unbearable Edit: actually not as bad as I thought
@index7787
2 жыл бұрын
I would have put the tank on the back instead of the face, could help it not get over loaded.
@Fos3tex
2 жыл бұрын
Why are violins shaped the way they are? Is it aesthetics, traditionalism, or does it actually make the instrument sound better?
@jaysonfrankwitbooi216
2 жыл бұрын
Please build me a violin like that
@onlyoneneuron
2 жыл бұрын
You are a f.... champion. Congratulations and thanks for sharing
@MrUNIXsnob
2 жыл бұрын
Super cool thankx :)
@None_of_your_business666
2 жыл бұрын
6:30 maybe the overvibration comes from removing the external box
@11ccom
Жыл бұрын
This would be good in this violin maybe: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lJt-zJqeiWaprXo
@baroqueguitarist5673
2 жыл бұрын
I play an Indian instrument called the “sarangi”. It’s extremely similar with 3 main playing string and 30 plus sympathetic strings all tuned to the scale of the raga I’m playing. It’s hollow inside similar to your instrument and as I play up and down the scale the sympathetic strings tuned to whatever note I’m playing automatically go off. So if I play the note A on the main playing string all my sympathetic strings tuned to A automatically go off. The whole hollow instrument vibrating to the note A causes any strings also tuned to A to vibrate without me ever touching them in anyway. Every note I play The same happens B C etc etc... the sympathetic strings create a very similar reverb effect. I’m surprised how similar your reverb tank violin sounds to an Indian sarangi
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