The problem with bootlegs and knockoffs is when they make them pass as the real authentic figures and scam people.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
Very true. It is an extremely scummy thing to do.
@Toy_The_Poser
Күн бұрын
EXACTLY! Look, if you want a Marvel Legends "Venom" or whatever that bad for whatever reason. It's YOUR money. And I'm not gonna "cape" for these big box toy companies. That might be getting hit from bootleggers. I just KNOW that if scalppers and reseller are whoever is sailing off their figs. They're NOT (more than likely) gonna tell you that it's a BOOTLEG.
@Artkaillector
6 күн бұрын
Totally with you! There will always be a rotten apple in the basket! Someday they will realize they have been wasting their own energy and time hating unnecessarily and trying to ruin others' happiness... they will realize that the essential is to not care about others views and to enjoy one's passion. As long as it makes you happy, that's what matters like you said! If someone's happiness is annoying you, especially that they aren't doing anything wrong but genuinely enjoying the hobby, then that person(hater) has a serious problem! In my own language I always say 'Saken so yen', this means 'to each their own happiness/hobbies'. The purpose of life is to love, peace and happiness! Hope dem haters find it too before its too late and that they mind their own business! Cheers bro!
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
Very well put man. I’m happy to hear you agree! Along with a few many others it seems. I love the positive feedback! That is totally the purpose of life! It is so much more fulfilling to be as positive as you can, as often as you’re able. Love, peace, and happiness is essential to all of us. That’s cool man. ‘Saken so yen’. That’s something to remember amongst us Collectors. Instead of judging, we should implore each others different styles and ideas of collecting. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@toyingaroundtoys
3 күн бұрын
Cause? They fund Chinese crime.. and are fall apart Everytime I had one cross my path..that?. iS why I HATE,bootlegs.
@subjectfnaf
4 күн бұрын
Some people buy bootlegs to make customs since 1.the figure line is discontinued 2.the companie won't reralease the whole wave of figures 3.we're broke 4.we don't want to customize rare figures 5.they don't want to customize expensive figures Well im a fnaf collector and customizer and found a Chinese bootleg set of wave 2 and they aren't half bad funko ain't gonna reralease most of the original wave so these are better alternatives
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
That’s the perfect way to break it down. That is probably a damn good definitive list of reasons why a bootleg can be a perfectly viable alternative.
@suddskys7482
2 күн бұрын
Love boolegs. Good for customization, and spare parts for original figures
@andrewcolantuono3339
2 күн бұрын
The issue with bootleg figures is that if they're done very well or near perfect then they will be bought and resold by others who will pass them off as authentic. Those bootleg may even cost you as much as the OG. The ones that are low cost may also be poorly done so then it feels like a waste. Either way, my main point would be that they can be passed off as authentic to collectors who aren't aware of the difference. This mainly is for resellers doing this as mentioned earlier.
@Thebbot
2 күн бұрын
Very respectable opinion man , never understood why snobs care so much about other peoples collections
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
Thanks dude! I appreciate your comment and you watching.
@jbatts23
6 күн бұрын
With you 100%. I’ve picked up quite a few KOs from AliExpress….& they’ve all been pretty damn good. Certain folks gotta calm the f down. For those late to collecting, & the secondary market what it is, bootleg figures provide a suitable alternative to paying outrageous prices.
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
They are pretty damn good! It just makes zero sense to me why people get so uptight about KOs. It’s super weird to me honestly. Thanks for watching & commenting jbatts23!
@PlasticAndPages
Күн бұрын
Bootlegs are essentially stealing someone’s art. I own a few bootlegs, so, I don’t have a problem with them, but it undercuts the talent of actual artists.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
That’s is true. I can’t argue that. The artist who sculpted the figure don’t get their “commission” for those sales. They’re gonna find any kinda legal loopholes they can to be able to sell. I can’t blame the hustle but I do understand what you’re saying though for sure.
@suhtangwong
3 күн бұрын
You should get the KO juggernaut, it's awesome! Some say it's better than the actual one because it has better articulation.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
Funny you mention that, iv been dying that KO and a couple versions of the hulk. That juggernaut looks freakin sick. It’s been in my cart for about 3 weeks now. I think your comment is the thing that gonna make me pull the trigger! I need him for my X-men display! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@willsworld1990
2 күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking up on this man! I love your passion and your conviction. Very refreshing
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
Such kinda words! Thank you Will! I appreciate that man! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@willsworld1990
Күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian no thank you man! You are a real inspiration for my own channel :D take care dude
@Bloodravens73
3 күн бұрын
You got it right bro. Do what makes you happy.
@PhillyFK
4 күн бұрын
Personally collect mostly official figures but for some like the Medicos Super Action Statue Jojo's Bizarre Adventure figures, they are just too expensive for me to get in a legitimate way. As long as there are good official versions out there I will keep getting them but when they no longer are being sold or get too expensive I look for either a second hand one or a bootleg.
@TheStonedMandalorian
4 күн бұрын
Definitely an appropriate mentality to have for collecting. I love action figures but I just don’t see the point in paying 60-100 bucks (or much more in certain cases) for a figure that retails at 25-35 bucks. Now for certain figures like Neca or hot toys, I totally understand paying a premium price for stuff like that. But I’m just trying to have cool stuff on the shelf. Obviously quality is important, but there’s no need to empty your wallet unnecessarily. If you want it, buy it. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. It’s that simple. Thanks for watching and commenting Philly!
@RJI8
5 күн бұрын
I’ll pay for quality. If the knockoff is super close in quality to the authentic, then I’ll get the knockoff. But more than likely, authentic ones are just better
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
For the most part they are. I can’t disagree with you on that. Ofcourse if I could buy the authentic version for a decent price (& or retail or close to retail at least) over the KO I totally would prefer the legit thing. But overall the authentic versions are the way to go. But in cases such as the Venom figure, it’s just hard to beat. For figures that are hard to come by or are just ridiculously overpriced.
@heavy5013
Күн бұрын
Bad quality products using character likenesses and engineering that's not theirs. That's the problem. They're making money off stuff that others made and own without the rights or permission in lower quality. I'd rather support the ones that actually earned money.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
That’s a fair reason. I can’t knock you for that at all. But in most cases people are buying KOs of figures that are either hard to come by or way too high on the aftermarket. When a figure is listed for double even triple the price it retails for, that’s not going to the IP anyways. It’s going into some third party sellers pocket. So either way the company you want to support is losing out on money. That just comes down to the brand you collect and rather or not they rerelease a certain rare or expensive figure in a certain wave. One example is Star Wars TBS. There are so many figures getting “refreshes” (just a rerelease on the same packaging) that are literally over double what they detailed for. Captain Rex is basically impossible to come by if you don’t spend at least 80- 150 bucks. Even more on some listings iv seen. Then there’s Bossk, hera, Sabine, hunter, crosshair, empower palpatine with his throne, ect. There’s even more than that, that’s just a small list. All of those figures I just listed were all INSANELY priced in the aftermarket. When someone has decided to bite the bullet and buy one of those figures, Hasbro doesn’t get that money. It’s going to the third party seller. So in essence by Hasbro not deciding to give these figures a “refresh”, they’ve been losing out on all that money. Money that collectors spent with OTHER companies because Hasbro didn’t have these figures available. So instead of those 6 years where those figures were “out of production” people have been spending DOUBLE just to get these characters on their shelf. That should be where the marketing team of sed company does research to find out what is selling and what collectors want. None of us want to spend MORE money than what it actually sells for, we just do it because there’s no other way to get that figure from the brand you want to support. Let’s just say last year 100 collectors bought captain Rex for their collection. They each spent 100 bucks a piece (that’s on the lower end for that figure too) that’s 10,000 dollars out of collectors pockets that we didn’t get to spend with the actual IP. If hasbro had that figure it would be 25-27 bucks depending on where you buy it. But IF Hasbro had that figure they would have made that money (2500 bucks if all 100 collectors bought from the actual brand. But because this figure is so scarce, collectors are just taking the plunge because they want sed figure/character in their collection. I think that’s the majority of people buying bootlegs. I doubt many people are going to buy a bootleg of a figure that’s readily available. MOST of not all the time, people are buying KOs for one of two reasons (this doesn’t include scummy scalpers who try and pass of something fake as real). One is that figure is way too expensive over retail, or that figure is rare and it’s hard to come by (or it’s just not in production anymore). But I understand what you’re saying. If I have the choice I’d always rather buy the authentic real thing. But in some cases that’s just not possible. Another example is symbiote Spider-Man. He’s 50 plus dollars on the aftermarket on average. When someone buys that figure it’s not going to Marvel Legends. It’s going to the seller who has it listed. So either way sometimes even if you buy the authentic product it’s not even supporting the line you collect. It’s just supporting the seller you bought it from.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
Sorry I know that was a lot lol. It’s a long comment.
@packrat2k7
Күн бұрын
I'm with you 100%. I've got no problems with bootlegs/knock-off as long as it's clear that's what it is and not an attempt to trick you into thinking it's the real deal... I even got a set of bootleg/knock-off TMNT figures like the ones you showed in this video. They're pretty decent (especially considering the price I paid for them). Would have preferred to get the genuine articles, but not at the kind of prices that they're going for on the after-market. Hopefully Neca does a re-release of those movie turtles at some point as they're my second favourite design for TMNT.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
Exactly. As long as there’s no deception going on between seller and consumer, it’s the best way to get something your after without emptying your wallet. Hell yea that’s cool. They’re definitely not Neca quality. But like you said, for the price point you can’t beat it. Well I guess if we had the legit neca versions, you could beat it lol. But you know what I mean. And I feel ya. Definitely my top three favorite interpretations of the turtles. I really love the 2003 animated turtles. That whole series was just so awesome and I like the style of animation and how they were drawn. Thanks for watching and commenting packrat!
@TimboToys
2 күн бұрын
I like bootlegs too!
@dropdeaddaniel18
7 күн бұрын
Support brother! I’ve bought some knock offs from Ebay before and you can’t even tell it blends in to the collection but also worse case scenario you gotta use a little super glue every now and again. Hey as long as the characters I love are represented on the shelf I’m ok with it
@TheStonedMandalorian
7 күн бұрын
Hell yea man! I see nothing wrong with that! As long as the info is accurate and it’s not misleading product information, and your AWARE of what your buying, thats a sure way to get hard to come by/expensive figures. As long as the representation is accurate & there is no misinformation, being content and happy with your purchase is all that matters! I appreciate your input and opinion man.Thanks for watching and commenting Daniel!
@Csthedirector
6 күн бұрын
Hasbro and Mattel make and import these figures from China to sell in the US. The only big difference I really see is that the KO doesn't have the official licensed company logo. Overall, it's all the same. I have some KOs, and it works for me
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
Yep. Very good point. Hell who knows, they could be from the same factory (after hours lol). Who knows? Nothing wrong with having a couple bootlegs.
@Csthedirector
6 күн бұрын
@TheStonedMandalorian I actually have a few KO transformers and have another on the way, but to me, they're getting better especially w the die-cast parts
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
@@Csthedirector damn. For the KO to have die cast pieces is pretty freakin dope! From some of the research iv done, over the years some of the bootleg Marvel Legends continue to get better and better. When it gets to the point where the knockoffs are so good the only way you can tell is by REALLY inspecting the whole figure. I’d say that’s pretty damn good. If it’s being mistaken for the real thing and the quality is damn near identical, you just can’t beat that.
@T-M-N-T
3 күн бұрын
Now the question is the boot leg toy for a kid to play with ? Is the boot leg toy for you to open & enjoy & play with ? Then yeah why not save some money & have fun. BUT if someone is going to resell it for a higher price later on & NOT mention it’s a boot leg then that’s NOT for the buyer
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
Totally! Shell yea! (Little tmnt humor) That’s the whole purpose of collecting. And just in general, that’s what action figures are for! Fun! Not to be horded and scalped. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@user-ti6bg7hl3f
4 күн бұрын
Yo Mando, I can't not see those two black dots on the eyes as pupils. lol I got KO MP Sound Wave from AE and it's amazing also a quarter of the price.
@TheStonedMandalorian
4 күн бұрын
lol that’s funny! And heck yea! Another defender for the underrated bootlegs! That’s awesome! I’m glad it turned out to be a good but! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@mr.gypsyfish6710
2 күн бұрын
Buy what you can afford and what makes you happy i agree just dont have ulterior motives to sell as authentic
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
Exactly. You know what the deal is gypsyfish!
@jimboscustoms
13 сағат бұрын
The problem with knock offs is when you buy them thinking there to real deal, i have have no issues with them if you know there not original there great for spare parts and accessories just dont buy fake neca predators big mistake 🤣🤦🏻♂️ also its nice to be able to have something you probably couldn't have in your collection for half the price. Nice video dude 👊
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 сағат бұрын
100% dude. Definitely don’t want to endorse scummy behavior and tactics. That’s true too. Extra parts for kitbashing and customs in general. Lol thanks for the warning on predator. Love the original film and some of the other films. Definitely would be a cool one to own. That’s the whole reason why some people resort to bootlegs. Sometimes it may be the only way to get a certain character. It sucks to say but it’s true in many cases. Thank you Jimbo! I appreciate that man. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the support!
@KarcamoGaming
Күн бұрын
Dude! 100% Agree with your vibe! You gained a subscriber.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
Thanks Karcamo! I appreciate you subbing. I also thank you for watching and commenting! Means a lot to me! I hope you enjoy my older and newer content to come!
@HyperdellicDude
3 күн бұрын
You buy the plastic you want!! Now I'm all riled up... I gotta do something with all this energy... I'm gonna go buy more toys too, lol. Great vid Dude... saw your name and HAD to see what yer about. I'm not disappointed.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
That’s right! You buy all the plastic…intill you’re slightly in debt….realize you have a problem….try to tame yourself….its an endless cycle!! Go buy something awesome dude! Those are kind words! Thanks dude! I’m really glad you stumbled across my channel. And I’m glad I didn’t disappoint! Thank you for subbing! And for watching and commenting! I appreciate ya!
@Thraxismundar
5 күн бұрын
Hell yea bro
@awesomereviews1561
3 күн бұрын
It’s really easy why. First it drives the prices down for the real item ( see the original Goku Black for example). And then it doesn’t give the IP any money to support it. And some KO are very expensive and they shouldn’t be ( KONG for example, super expensive and very poor quality control). I don’t mind KO, some are even better for the faces like Tonsenarttoys. But they should be a lot cheaper since they don’t pay for the DBZ license.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
That’s an interesting take. As far as paying MORE for a KO, that doesn’t make sense to me. And if it is more expensive than the authentic version I wouldn’t make the purchase. The whole point of a KO is to be cheaper. Like you said, it’s not like they’re paying for licensing or anything. So they should be dramatically cheaper for that reason. I don’t know much about DBZ knock offs but there is never a reason to pay more for the fake version. That’s wild. That all comes down to the collectors judgement and preference. To me it doesn’t make sense to buy a ko for something that is readily available. I don’t know how rare or not rare this goku black figure your talking about. But I know he’s an essential dbz character and probably the most populist anime character of all time. The only way it hurts an IP is if they don’t have it available or don’t plan to do a rerelease of that figure. That’s what actually drives the market price up. People buying KOs and spending more on the fake versions can definitely hurt an IP. But then you could wonder about how well their marketing & distribution is through whatever company is producing sed figures. In some cases KOs can drive prices up. Looks at the Neca tmnt turtles for instance. They were hard to come by for years got rereleased then became scarce again. Then other people started producing KOs of that line, then that drives the price of the authentic ones up because they’re even harder to come by. Every line has its issues rather it be reuse (which is important), marketing, distribution, pricing, availability, ect. There’s even more than that I’m sure, stuff that I don’t even have a grasp on how it works exactly. But I’m the instance of what you’re talking about, it just comes down to good judgment and what you’re willing to spend. Or not spend on certain scenarios. I appreciate your input awesomereviews! Thank you for watching and commenting.
@awesomereviews1561
2 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorianfor SH Figuarts/ DBZ the KO figures can cost double the price of a real one. For instance a real Goku SSJ 3 cost 60 bucks, but a KO from KONG costs around 150 bucks or more. It costs more because they use an updated mold ( that they took from SH Figuarts Son Gohan 3.0, whereas the original Goku SSJ 3 uses 2.0 mold) and different face plate. Or you have the Demoniacal Fit base Goku that cost double the price of the SH Figuarts original Goku. Same thing, they use an updated mold (3.0 vs 2.0) and to be fair it looks better than the original ( until SHF release a 3.0 version). But it cost double the price and that’s not good. You should take a look into it, the KO scene for DBZ figures is out of control 😂.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
@@awesomereviews1561 DAAAAMN. That’s insane! I had no idea DBZ KOs were so outrageous price wise. That’s wild! Well I definitely can’t blame you for being resistant to those lol. That’s just insane.
@ericrosales2332
4 күн бұрын
i dont collect but i like this guy
@duecejaygaming
2 күн бұрын
The thing is, people are going to say “aww those are legit, those aren’t real” but hell I’m not going to pay for overpriced action figures. Some of these people make some accurate af knockoffs. The thing for me is, my shelf is stacked with a lot of nostalgia, for me! I can care less what someone else who didn’t spend MY money on MY collection. Rule of thumb though, is doing research on knockoffs you’re potentially going to purchase. I’m getting black series knockoffs right now but have seen numerous video reviews about them. If they review good, I get them because they are complete custom clone troopers. Which Hasbro hasn’t released yet.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
PREACH!! Tell ‘em what it is jaygaming! I totally agree with you Jay. For example: the new 212th airborne clone trooper is pretty damn accurate and looks incredible! I literally just said the same thing in another comment. As you said it’s up to the collector to do the research and use their best judgment. A lot of knockoffs are very accurate. Another example is the regular phase 2 clone Jesse. That figure is practically identical to the Black Series 2020 clone body. Maybe slightly loose (for lack of a better term) but honestly not loose enough to where it has trouble standing or posing. In fact the articulation BECAUSE of the looseness has some insanely smooth articulation. I also stand by what you say about if a line has not produced a certain character or figure, your more inclined to buy it KO. But if that specific line DID have that character, most collectors would obviously more likely buy the authentic version. I’m in that category. If black series released a better version of Jesse or whatever other custom veils or AliExpress has, I would buy it. No hesitation. Some KOs are even better than the Original they’re trying to emulate. Thanks for watching and commenting Jay.
@jayd5360
2 күн бұрын
Depends on the quality for me, but I got nothing against goid bootlegs
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
That is the deciding factor for sure. Along with price too. As long as they coincide fairly, you can’t go wrong. Thanks for watching!
@ysoserious8526
2 күн бұрын
I just hate that nowadays everything has to be made in China. They say it is to keep the price low but actually it is only for higher profits. I don't have any Problems with well made KO's, because the Original figures are also made in China. I just bought a Predator Scout and Razor Claw Alien from Neca and tho the figures are looking soooo good and are original, both of them suffer from loose joints a lot which is just annyoing. I have 4 KO Clones which are absolutely great figures and one Figma Alien which was 20€ instead of 80ish and it is a decent build with great painting. Btw. I just got myself the Jabba the Hut figure together with a 40th anniversary Biba Fett for just 100€🤩
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
You’re exactly right Serious. There are quite a few collectors (like me and you) who have nothing but positive experiences with KOs and for the ones who have mixed feelings because the quality can have a wide range of being good or just trash. I think it’s really based on just doing your reasearch and not overspending. Ultimately it up to collector digression and judgement. OHHH HELL YEA!! Finally got jabba in your collection! That’s awesome my friend! You will not be disappointed! Such an awesome figure (more of a statue really lol. It does have arm and jaw articulation so I guess it still counts as a figure) and the paint on it is just spectacular. And the cool little hookah bar and salacious is just a BIG win for that pack. Congrats on the new addition! And as always, thank you for watching and commenting my friend. I appreciate ya!
@SlashTheWeasel
3 күн бұрын
I don't get the hate some have for knock offs. I don't pay attention to them. I collect Transformers and I love knock offs of them. Oversized, cheap, cheap plastic, strange colors and totally fun. I've heard of some TF collectors having dislike for certain TFs, not just knock off. Whatever. Buy what you want. Those TMNT look official. How much were they cause official NECA ones are so expensive. And at Walmart?! Dang. I've seen official toys with bad paint apps, stiff joints, etc.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
Yea it’s a little strange. I’m not a big transformer guy but I gotta admit they look freakin siiick. And the ones that I got were 90 bucks for all 4 turtles. I forget how much it was with shipping but all in all they were all cheaper than 25 bucks per turtle. I was pretty impressed with them quality wise for the price. Obviously the legit Neca is probably INSANELY better, but I just felt like it was a good deal. There is some sloppy paint on them, some of the joints are a little loose, the accessories are a tiny bit lack luster, but once they’re on the shelf they look so dope. Compared to spending 100 plus bucks on a two pack with Mikey and Donny or Leo and Raph. I would definitely reccomend you checking them out at least.
@buzzsawgr81
Күн бұрын
I have a few figma bootlegs and they are nearly spot on to the legit versions aside from some minor differences and I love em. and as long as they let you know it's a bootleg then who cares. and many bootlegs have reviews so you can see if they're worth getting.
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
Hell yea buzzsaw. That’s dope! I think some people would be suprised just how close some KOs can be to the real thing. Also true. Just check the reviews or even try and look on KZitem. With the community being like it is you know there’s bound to be others that are curious about the same things. Sometimes it just takes a little effort and research. Your opinion is spot on. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ooklathemok2941
2 күн бұрын
Probably because the critical dude is one of those guys trying to sell items on eBay for $50-60, and they don't want people to have cheaper alternatives.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
If the shoe fits….👀👀 That’s who I picture is the majority of people who are real uptight about it. That or they spent a lot on an official version and they get butthurt cuz someone got something almost as good for a fraction of the price. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@unorthdoxcleric6953
3 күн бұрын
Love a KO but only when it#s decent think of CT Toys as a recent good one. I adore my Amazing Yama Batman as he's great, just like the OG.
@nathanilsaenz8178
3 күн бұрын
when it comes to Star wars bootlegs, i am pretty put off by them, the only reason being because they cost the same or more than official figures. The entire point of bootlegs was to get a cheaper version for a dirt cheap price. Now i see clones on alliexpres for 25.99+ shipping. Then when youtubers make videos about the alliexpress clones and say they are close to the real thing, but most of the videos when youtubers pose them they pop apart and fall apart, but they still say positive things lol, some look like they have loose joints. The fact they are more expensive and more cheaply made, i cant bring myself to get them even though they make characters Hasbro has not officially made. I remember a while back wanting to get the 212 clone trooper from alliexpress but then saw the totaly was nearly 25, later i found the official ones at walgreens for 19.99. If the bootlegs were cheap then id be all for it, but the fact they are just expensive if not more expensive and not as durable as the official ones, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As for the marvel ones that are actually cheaper than official ones that have been sold out or are official are too expeisive then hell yea! id get em.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
That is a fair assessment and opinion Nathan. If you paying the same amount for a bootleg as compared to the retail cost of the authentic version, there’s something up with that. That is the whole reason for getting a KO. Not only to get hard to find or expensive figures, but also to get them slightly cheaper. The Star Wars KOs from veils aren’t terrible but I understand where you’re coming from. I have clone trooper Jesse with the accurate helmet and paint and he is damn near identical to my other 2020 clones. The only difference I can tell (as you stated) some of the joints are a little loose. But the joints on mine were pretty tight overall and the paint was pretty decent too. I only paid 21 bucks for him with shipping, honestly I would have paid the 25 for him just to have that version of Jesse. But the other ones I see like the plain phase 2 or “non-canon” clones and they’re like 26 bucks, I’m kinda out right there too. If the price is the same and the figure is readily available, I’m definitely going the authentic route. And as far as ML goes; from some of the research iv done, a lot of collectors say the bootleg versions have been getting better and better over the years. Thank you for watching and commenting Nathan! I appreciate your input!
@uncardedreviews9721
2 күн бұрын
Great rant 😂👍 Subscribed 🎉
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
lol thanks! Thank you for watching and subbing! I appreciate ya!
@Shell-Shocked_Sheldon.
2 күн бұрын
The tmnt mirage turtles from 2008 by neca have fantastic knock offs. I own the knockoff and you can’t even tell the difference.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
That’s awesome! There are honestly a lot of KO figures that hold up well against the real thing. I’m glad you got yourself a good purchase! Thanks for watching and commenting! Cowabunga dude!
@DomitriCervantes
5 күн бұрын
I don't hate every knock off, i have some, but some knock off are hideous xD I think thats why
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
That’s fair. Some knockoffs are clearly trashy cash-grabs. But for the few that hold up there’s nothing wrong with owning one or the other cuz it’s cheaper and the paint isn’t EXACTLY the same. But you’re definitely valid in your statement. Some are just simply not worth it.
@DomitriCervantes
5 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian yeah, compare the sentinel Master chef bootleg, which Is really good, to the figma silent hill ones and you can see why some people would hate them xD
@hyperdrivecollections6460
6 күн бұрын
Great topic, and I concur. Personally, I buy what interests me. Many official releases from hasbro black series don’t interest me and the figures I want (such as stormtroopers, clones or droid army builders for example) are impossible to find in my area. I buy high quality bootleg clones from sites such as aliexpress or third party sellers. As a customizer I use bootleg figures as the base figure to help defray the cost whenever possible. If people have a problem with bootleg figures the simple solution is not to buy them. It’s really that simple. The bootleg market supplies the consumer with that which can’t be bought at reasonable prices or which is not available. It’s a supply & demand scenario. I’ve learned after 51 years not to be bothered by the negativity that is spewed by others, perhaps it’s jealousy, maybe self-righteousness, or possibly motivated by self-interest but as Stoned Mando says- we work hard for our money. We should be ably to buy a bootleg toy if we want to and feel like we owe somebody an explanation as to why. Love your videos man-and hell yes, that Venom is awesome
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
Very well said/written Hyper. That’s another good point I didn’t bring up. Customizers! Especially if you’re into doing customs, buying the authentic name brand can be a bit pricey just to cover in paint anyways. Especially for someone starting out and is nervous of “messing” up their figures. Exactly! It is quite that simple! Just don’t buy them. I’m sure we could ramble on about all the issues some collectors have with fixating on petty minuscule things. The energy some people put into things they DONT like will never make sense to me. Thank you man. I am really stoked you dig them. Just trying to be honest and genuine. And man he is fantastic! I am super pleased with this figure and I am so psyched to have him in my shelf! Thanks for watching man.
@ricardohernandez8727
4 күн бұрын
Bootlegs are hit or miss! I gotta thing for Sandtroopers and I got an extra one from Ebay and it was a miss. No leg articulation. He'll be a background guy!😅 I think Bootlegs are great especially when you gotta pay a mortgage and a high car insurance, not to mention other stuff! This hobby is expensive and we need to have fun ! If you can find a deal, sale, or a kool Bootleg it's your $ ....your collection! Just have fun with it! Hasbro is tough on the fans and Bootlegs create a fun alternative to the hobby! The world is full of hateful miserable fucks that just wanna spread their hate or misery! You're collection looks great and man I need a Venom! I need me a bootleg!😅
@TheStonedMandalorian
4 күн бұрын
lol yea. Your totally right man. And hey, you can never have too many background stormtroopers! Especially a sand trooper! Exactly! We all have bills and responsibilities. From time to time even deal with emergencies or last minute incidents (like a blown tire ect). This hobby is supposed to be fun like you said. It’s not about the money you’re spending on it. Marvel Legends and Black Series are not some investment, like compared to a hot toys per se. They’re literally just toys, action figures (I say that loosely because they’re so much more than that. Memories, reminiscing, nostalgia, infatuation, entertainment, excitement, enjoyment, ect. I could go on and on) it’s not supposed to be taken as seriously as some collectors make it. Thanks Ricardo! I appreciate it man! It’s not exactly how I want it, but that’s the fun in a display. And just collecting in general. You’re never really “done” or “finished”. It just goes on and on. This Venom KO thoroughly impressed me by how decent it is quality wise, and how close it is to a legit ML. I’m gonna post the review for it later this week. I think you’d enjoy it. But hopefully when you see my review it will help you make up your mind! It’s totally worth it IMO! Thanks for watching and commenting Ricardo! I’m grateful for the good vibes your comment gave off.
@VictorRivera-lo6zr
6 күн бұрын
I know this may sound crazy, but donate plasma for your figure addiction. It can be $400 on straight figs and you don’t have to worry about breaking bank and you help those in need of it. Just saying. I started collecting ShFigs Naruto last month and now only need two figures minus 2024 release.
@VictorRivera-lo6zr
6 күн бұрын
$400 a month from donating *
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
Ehh it’s. It’s not THAT crazy. lol but I understand why you say it is. That is definitely another option, and you are helping out others in the process. I know there’s limits on how often you can donate just because you have to give your body enough time to create more.
@VictorRivera-lo6zr
6 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian when you go to the center they give you those guidelines to follow. They won’t accept you more than twice a week. This method is for collectors who live check to check without wiggle room.
@bozzy7946
4 күн бұрын
Bootlegs are great. I think it's easy to turn collecting into a rat race with other collectors. Also I imagine some collectors fear the value of what they have going down. I collect a lot of import bootlegs and even the more brittle ones I've been able to make work with a little modding. Venom looks great as he is!!!
@bozzy7946
4 күн бұрын
And collectibles or not, they are toys.
@TheStonedMandalorian
4 күн бұрын
Very well put bozzy! That’s where some collectors mess up with trykmy to collect for monetary value. It can definitely be worth it sometimes with certain lines. but for a line that produces figures in the 20-50 dollar range it’s just not the smartest way to go about it. If you want value or something to accrue or hold value over time, maybe look into hot toys or sideshow. This is supposed to be fun. And people like us will not allow some hater or haters to disrupt that joy.
@bozzy7946
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian amen bud. My current favorite figure is a knock off yujiro hanma ATM.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
@@bozzy7946 Il definitely have to check that out! I’m not familiar with what you’re talking about. But I’m always down to check out other figures and appreciate other lines.
@bozzy7946
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian hes a character in baki the grappler
@toomuchnewtoys
3 күн бұрын
People also have no idea how knock offs work. Plenty of AliExpress figures arent knock offs
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
That’s true. Not everything on Ali is bootleg. Yes there is a big avenue for that market, but that’s not ALL they sell.
@toomuchnewtoys
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian yeah even bootlegs are still a business so its not cost effective or even woth it to bootleg everything, increasingly sellers have immediate access to factories and I would guess factories are selling directly
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
@@toomuchnewtoys yea that’s another good point. Sometimes these “bootlegs” can perhaps be original figures, they just happen to have more paint and package defects that makes them “non-sellable”. QC mistakes and defects happen even in original authentic lines from time to time. The way I see it is as long as a third party seller isn’t trying to pass a KO off as the real thing trying to sell it, I can’t blame them for it. If these corporate companies can’t take the time to see what figures have inflated on the aftermarket that’s on them. They are literally losing on on money because they don’t rerelease a wave or figure in a wave. And instead these third party bootleg sellers come in a fill that missing piece. Star Wars The Black Series is a good example of such. They have a lot of re-fresh’s being released this year. And all of them are figures that are very pricey on the aftermarket. So now with hasbro “rereleasing” them. THEY can make the money from collectors that we’re going to spend their money elsewhere on a KO or just some third party seller with the original product but for a crazy price. In all honesty and truth, it’s really the company’s loss. People will hoard a set of figures and list them double to triple the retail price. And then that leave us faithful collectors to that line getting fu*ked. When all they have to do a whip up another batch of a figure that has gained value. Some people are gonna pay those prices because they want that “character” on their shelf.
@jasonpatchen1912
5 күн бұрын
os get a bad rap because people dont know enough to look for the signs but that not the figures fault thats your own
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
True. Another point that probably holds true for quite a few of those haters.
@theguyonthecouch42024
2 күн бұрын
To me not a fan of the bootlegs, you get what you pay for, I bought a "figma" attack on titan, I thought I got a good deal until the joints,pegs just melted, broke off. the plastic was cheap, so $50 gone the figure I can't even use for extra parts. THERE IS NO WRONG WAY ON HOW YOU COLLECT.
@TheStonedMandalorian
2 күн бұрын
Damn man that’s a bummer. Sucks you had a negative experience. Just for reference how much is that figure retail for? The authentic version? That last sentence is pure gold! That’s one of the main rules (if there were rules lol) of collecting! Thank you for watching and commenting my guy!
@robertj.3383
3 күн бұрын
I buy from Hasbro or I don't buy at all. But that's me. People can do what they want with their own money.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
I wish more people had your perspective. It’s really just that simple. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@hyperdrivecollections6460
6 күн бұрын
Hey im heading down to goose creek S.C. to visit our son. Any good collectibles shops nearby?
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
Not sure if Columbia is on your way down there or not, but there is an awesome comic shop called “Hero’s & Dragons”. Thousands of comics and hundreds of toys. Lots of black series and old school Kenner figures. Another cool place is called “LT Toys & Stuff”. Lots of cool stuff in that joint too!
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
I don’t know goose creek SUPER well. But Charleston is so awesome. Not totally sure where you coming from but depending which highway your on, Columbia may not be THAT far out the way for you.
@DanielGarciaNYC
Күн бұрын
If you let the ppl know it’s a KO then that’s fine cause ppl may need a certain figure but can’t get it cause it’s sold out or secondary market is too expensive I personally just don’t care for KO If I want the original then that’s what I’m getting. Just rather have an original if I can. If not the. It’s not for me
@TheStonedMandalorian
Күн бұрын
That is a totally respectable opinion Daniel! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I second that in fact. Sometimes I will spend more on the legit thing. One example is The Black Series Clone Wars General Obi Wan. I spent 50 bucks to have that figure on my shelf. But I didn’t even buy it from hasbro, it came from a fellow collector (which in some cases is better than some random third party seller. But I’m not opposed to getting a KO for certain characters. Thanks for watching and commenting man.
@Ken-vk8pb
7 күн бұрын
Some or even most people these days are far too judgmental or they have a strong opinion on certain things so they tell it as they see it. Especially online on KZitem in the comments section or even on Facebook messages and sometimes even in person. They will judge and criticize you on most anything and everything including toy and action figure collecting on what you buy and if you are an in box or out of box collector. They may even judge or criticize you on stupid things like even having tattoos when it's your body it's your choice including on what type and name brand of toys and figures you collect when it's your own money it's your choice. It's like they expect you to be doing things exactly like them when actually we are all our own individual person and that's what makes us unique. Even major name brand toys and figures when they are mass produced in the thousands some can have manufacturing defects and flaws or they can have slightly different variations on the same exact figure so not even name brand toys by Hasbro or Mattel are always exactly perfect. With buying an off brand knockoff you are saving alot of money so you can possibly buy 2 different figures for the cost of one single figure of a name brand one. You are mostly just paying extra for the major name brand and possibly getting a little better quality that's all. But all plastic figures will slowly degrade over time after many years regardless if it's made by Hasbro or Mattel or a knock off brand but some still last many years if well taken care of. I know this is a long posted comment but nobody else commented yet and this is a great topic to discuss so there was alot to say. They look like a great collection of TMNT figures to have anyway regardless of their manufacturer's name. 👍💯☺
@TheStonedMandalorian
7 күн бұрын
I love your comment Ken! You hit the nail on the head. People just fall in too deep with a negative mindset. That’s gonna get nobody anywhere. Everyone has much more to gain from having a positive mindset (obviously not all the time ofrocurse. We all have bad days.). And 1000%! Even the major name brand figures can have defects and QC issues. Toxic people like that will always find SOMETHING to moan and whine about. It’s just not worth all that energy. And no worries for the long comment! I love hearing what others have to say and their thoughts. You are welcome to say whatever you feel! Thank you for watching and commenting Ken. I appreciate it.
@TheStonedMandalorian
7 күн бұрын
Another thing I feel that happens is perhaps some people overpayed for a certain figure just to come to find out, there’s a VERY decent and cheaper alternative available. And they’re just sour about it.
@Ken-vk8pb
6 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian Yes, What you said is true. I've been a subscriber to your channel for many months now although I don't always comment on all videos but this was an important discussion. This kinda problem happens even on other toy and figures collectors channels on KZitem and also even on the music and movie reaction channels and other channels on this KZitem platform. All you can really do is just try to ignore these people and don't respond to them and delete their comments and block them but the only thing is there will just be another one of these type of people eventually again sooner or later. Good night.
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
@@Ken-vk8pb well thank you for being a subscriber. I am appreciative for that. It is definitely something that’s not SUPER often discussed, but we all have bills and responsibilities. People need to not judge on such petty meaningless things. Such as what kind of toys you buy. Once again thanks for watching Ken.
@MyPlaylistWillSaveAmerica
6 күн бұрын
5:15 it’s…….. A S P D 1 in 25 have it. Sorry YT won’t let me type it normally. The reason they can’t empathize with you. Why they get off on your troubles at your expense. Why they seem careless. Why politicians do wrong when they know it’s wrong. It’s apart of enlightenment. Don’t waste too much energy on them.
@TheStonedMandalorian
6 күн бұрын
I totally hear ya saveamerica. I am definitely not giving them any extra attention or any of my energy. It’s just very frustrating to me but Il never let it get me down to the point where it effects my mood or things I do. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ysoserious8526
4 күн бұрын
Whaaaaaaat?!? Your buying KOs? Man you are not a real collector. Your not in the inner circle anymore!!!!
@TheStonedMandalorian
4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Wait, Ysoserious! It’s not what it seems like! Trust me! lol.
@jasonpatchen1912
5 күн бұрын
wolverine hit you off right
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
What do you mean Jason? I’m not fully understanding man.
@jasonpatchen1912
5 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian started you on collecting the legends line
@jasonpatchen1912
5 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian the animated series wolverine you talked about how you and your brother watch it as kids so you just had to get him
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
@@jasonpatchen1912 ohh I gotcha man. Oh yea he got me pulled into a whole other line. Which I told myself I wasn’t going to do when I began collecting figures. lol.
@TheStonedMandalorian
5 күн бұрын
@@jasonpatchen1912 yep. Fond memories I have with my brother. Definitely struck a chord with me when I seen the show coming out. Forgot how much we loved X-Men growing up. Not to mention that figure is just so freaking dope. It’s damn near perfect in my opinion.
@toyingaroundtoys
3 күн бұрын
Cause? They fund Chinese on America crime.. and are fall apart Everytime I had one cross my path..that?. iS why I HATE,bootlegs.
@TheStonedMandalorian
3 күн бұрын
Man let’s be honest. America does on America crime. The majority of the USAs products IS Chinese. It just has an American company’s name on it . Why make it here in the states (to provide jobs and stimulate the economy), when we can make it across seas for literally next to nothing. It’s simple obviously, it’s money. (I say ‘we’, as in big corporations) In a sense, for years America has been struggling to keep labor over here in the US due to wages and price increases in materials and shipping. Or maybe I shouldn’t say struggling (for some companies that’s true)but choosing to go with the cheaper labor just to make an extra buck (which obviously we all know is what corporations do) is doing enough damage already to the “system”. But now that being said; you are entitled to have your opinion. Let me ask you this. Do you ridicule or judge others BECAUSE they buy knockoffs? Or do you simply just have your opinion and choose NOT to buy KOs. My main gripe is with people who get their panties in a bunch when people choose the latter. Instead of spending double, triple, even sometimes more than retail for an action figure. There are a lot of collectors that have positive experiences with KOs. But I’m that same aspect, there are collectors like you who seem to have bad experiences. Which is understandable.
@toyingaroundtoys
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian yup. Most is...legit. but .the ones selling the B/Ls.. are NOT. They? Are criminals..simple. but? Do you bro. I love 420. And..Actionfigures. I Just don't like supporting Chinese Gangs and Worse..w My $ no matter how 'small' of a fraction one thinks goes to that! They? Make the Fentanyl w those funds. And..I lost my wife to that. So. Can we end any Hostility..if their was any? I have a very good reason for my stance. So. That's all. 2 differing opinions. Doesn't mean I don't know how to shop and get stuff cheap in any event. So? I'll do me. You do you. 🙏 And..Yeah. I answered before reading your response fully. Cool. Yeah .So..Ya definitely know my real reason I ..cant do it (bootlegs) .. besides my wife? That sh#t has taken way more others I've known as well. .. It's not pretty . 😔 And..My God! I so wish they made em in America ... But? $. $ sucks too. 😊
@toyingaroundtoys
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian and..Nope. I don't make fun of anyone for much. It's not cool. My reason? Is far deeper. So..Hopefully? We have a understanding.. 😊 just 2 420 Actionfigure collectors w YT channels talking. All good.
@toyingaroundtoys
3 күн бұрын
@@TheStonedMandalorian was my comment just deleted?
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