50 cent oops paint at the Home Depot. People bee painting hives for over 100 years.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
private bubba People have been driving gasoline powered cars for 100 years, too. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a better alternative out there if you look for one!
@privatebubba8876
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm To each his own mine is If ain't broke don't fix it.
@joerowland607
5 жыл бұрын
I do agree with him that latex will chip and allow premature decomp. I live in Florida and every prep you can take to extend the life of your wooden ware is an absolute necessity. Oh that coroplast that just might provide some shade for the hive here where it is Africa hot every summer, besides obviously shedding rainfall, but a frame to support the coroplast might be necessary here. The summer thunderstorm winds might otherwise make your coroplast a kite.
@JnJShiffler
5 жыл бұрын
In SE PA we have clubs that wax dip our hive boxes. Reports from a NJ commercial beekeepers is his hives are going on 30 years. Mainly parrafin wax and/or micro crystaline parrafin wax with some resin added. 260-280*F for 10 minutes, cooks out wood moisture and replaces with wax. Our CCBA recently added 80-100# of beeswax beads to our last two was dipping sessions and it smells terrific. Down side $4 per item dipped. On my used painted gear I melt beeswax into the top and bottom edges to help preserve as those edges seem to rot first. What is the oldest hive you have with this product? Can you show how it weathers? I have been laser engraving / wood burning my new hive bodies this year to give some artistic flare. I can use the laser before (is best) and after wax dipping. Fun.
@shannonswyatt
5 жыл бұрын
My guess is wax dipping would outlast any topical finish. I wish I could get it done locally. Then I wouldnt have to paint again.
@daveb8598
5 жыл бұрын
@@shannonswyatt Agreed, I wonder if it would work to dip the hive bodies before you put them together, that way you could do it yourself in a deep sheet pan or something
@beebob1279
2 жыл бұрын
Dipping became more popular after I had already had my operation up and running twenty some years ago. I'm in Bucks County and our club has nothing like what your group does.
@ipvr15xify
5 жыл бұрын
I used 2 coats of a stain/sealer, then i bought some crystal clear epoxy and covered it. uv and waterproof, always looks wet and shiny
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
That sounds cool, I hope the epoxy doesn't get all cracked once the wood expands and contracts.
@ipvr15xify
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm hopefully it holds up the epoxy is super tough, you can see a little of what it looks like here. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2IaL1JZtopl0mWk
@MaryMillerSpoolhardyGirl
5 жыл бұрын
I started out assembling my own boxes and coating them with tung oil, but I don't really have a good set up and it quickly became a pain in the butt. There is a guy here locally who assembles hive boxes and dips them in paraffin. It is really great equipment that is impervious to all the weather conditions Ohio can throw at it. It does cost me some $$ but I think it will be worth it in the long run. I decided pretty early on, I could be a beekeeper or a carpenter/furniture maker, but I couldn't be both! :)
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Mary Miller The wax dip method is great. I’ve heard of people just using beeswax too, but that’s quite an investment!
@robinj.9329
5 жыл бұрын
Grandpa used to paint on a thin layer of perafin. He said it extended the life of his "Woodware"!
@emmymade
5 жыл бұрын
Great! I was looking for an alternative to tung oil - thanks!
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
emmymadeinjapan Thanks for watching, Emmy!
@commonsensegaming1756
3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey its Emmy. Hiiiii
@commonsensegaming1756
3 жыл бұрын
@Jermaine Johan so what are we searching?
@commonsensegaming1756
3 жыл бұрын
@Jermaine Johan more info please what are we looking for. I dont understand what this is supposed to mean
@commonsensegaming1756
3 жыл бұрын
@Boden Jakob so what is happening?
@andrewc7369
5 жыл бұрын
I have had great success with tung oil, thinned with natural gum turpentine 3:1. Agree its too thick to put on neat.
@cavemaneca
5 жыл бұрын
I've done Tung oil for my supers, and it seems to work just fine for summer boxes. However the 2 brood boxes I did it with were wrecked after just 1 winter. The wood was moved so much bees could crawl into the gaps! For the rest I've just gone with the exterior paint that matches my fence color, and it was only $30/gal which has triple coated half a dozen 10 frame deeps without making much of a dent in the can. I'd like to try a more natural look again sometime, and that product you've had experience with looks like it might actually work pretty well. It'll be interesting to see how long it holds up especially with how much protection your boxes get.
@jackbquick123
5 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know I'm going to try this stain. I looked everywhere in my area and no one sells it. I looked on Amazon and it doesn't have a good selection. I went ahead and contacted the manufacturer and ordered it directly from them,, it was cheaper and they processed it very quickly and said it will be here in 2 days. Thanks for the info. I'm going to try this and see how it goes.
@bachirkanawati5361
5 жыл бұрын
why you don't buy apimaye thermo hive?? Love u bro no homo I have 200 bee hives
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Bachir Kanawati Lots of reasons.... I’m already fully invested in wood. I like being able to make components with easily available materials. I like being able to use components interchangeably. I like the system I have now with removable insulation and wraps. I can wrap and unwrap my hives now in seconds. Plus those hives are not very pleasing to look at in my opinion.
@simopr09
5 жыл бұрын
advice, when it's cold, doesn't mean there isn't any activity. They will soon resume their activity and you will have to add supers and check for swarm cells. If you fall behind one or two weeks you may miss some warms.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
N O Oh, I know! It’s just been cold every day for about two weeks. They’re pent up and not much to forage. I need to get in there and make sure they don’t need food but it’s been too cold every time I’m free.
@simopr09
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm I had the same problem. It rained everytime I was free and two of my beehives swarmed on me, a matter of 10 days. Be careful.
@chazinhub
3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm I guess it's been a bit warmer here on the coast(Boston) and the rain has the backyard filled with dandelions and purple and white/purple violets...we just decided to let the landscaper know to not mow in the back for a while(though the ladies seem to be ignoring those flowers).
@eureekahavoc3977
5 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t your double nuc boxes painted purple and Orange?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Mercs Legion Yes! But it’s only a splash of paint OVER the sealer and it’s only on the front face. I did it to differentiate the boxes but it’s not for protection.
@eureekahavoc3977
5 жыл бұрын
Vino Farm ah. Thanks for the clarification.
@yoho1021
5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of apimaye hives?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
fred white I don’t like the idea of buying into a proprietary system. I like being able to construct hive components out of wood with simple tools. I like my removable system of insulation and wraps. And I prefer the traditional look of my wood boxes. Basically, I’m not a fan.
@rembrandrembrand
5 жыл бұрын
my friend use epoxy coating,it will last for 25 years...it is expensive but it will last longer then regular paint..
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta' watch the particular epoxy. Most of the stuff I've used (structurally) specifically says to add top coat as it is not designed with UV inhibitors.
@rembrandrembrand
5 жыл бұрын
@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 use food grade epoxy,food industrie used a lot,every epoxy coating need base coat and top coat,it is 3 layers coating..
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
5 жыл бұрын
@@rembrandrembrand Ooooh, you're talking epoxy paint. I get it.
@kookiboy
5 жыл бұрын
I wax my boxes. Hello from Fance, love your vids.
@bigbrickwall
5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you made a wax moth beacon.
@awalker7581
5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean you boil dip the boxes?
@2of238
4 жыл бұрын
What do you called that kind of wax ?
@cathyhanley8658
3 жыл бұрын
@@bigbrickwall Are the moths attracted to the smell of wax?
@djg585
3 жыл бұрын
@@bigbrickwall Wax moths don't need any help. I dip my edges in beeswax.
@kthearcher3357
5 жыл бұрын
Cool! I like the idea of the Vermont whey stain :) Another reason hives are painted is to help your bees find their way home and help those virgin Queens return to the hive they left for their mating flight 🐝 maybe the kiddo would be into painting or wood burning some small images on the fronts of them. Anyhoo just and idea with my 1.5 cents ;) Glad you did this video!
@MegaMackproductions
5 жыл бұрын
i Can see it now "Polywhey, the first choice for new england beekeepers"
@krups06
5 жыл бұрын
There is a Japanese technique called shou-sugi-ban where charring the wood creates a very durable, natural protective coating. I wonder if this would work well for your hive boxes.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
I've considered this! It would sure look cool. I already have the propane torch and everything.
@privatebubba8876
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they bees would enjoy the constant burnt wood smell. I would suspect they would abscond.
@billb.2673
5 жыл бұрын
The Japanese traditionally used Japanese cedar for this process. In order for it to be effective, the charring must have a minimum depth, which the cedar can endure during the burning, otherwise it simply eroded away in short order. Many western woods will not be able to withstand this process. The Japanese would also oil the wood after as well.
@jamesbsa6450
3 жыл бұрын
Shou-sugi-ban looks fantastic, had a friend do this to one of his bee boxes. But the effort was off the chart, and just not good for more than a few boxes unless you have nothing better to do.
@geterdonegranny1639
5 жыл бұрын
Coat them with beeswax. Lol
@joerowland607
5 жыл бұрын
Laugh but there is a KZitem video of someone using beeswax and soy wax to do just exactly that. Only he coated them inside and out.
@geterdonegranny1639
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Rowland I actually thought it may be a good idea. Natural! And I would love to see that video. 👍
@joerowland607
5 жыл бұрын
@@geterdonegranny1639 posted by Megan Denver.
@joerowland607
5 жыл бұрын
Oops it has been a while since I watched the video. I thought he used beeswax. I was wrong, but on his concept you could. Same principle. Temp would be much lower for beeswax. The downside is beeswax is pricey. Although when you consider hive body costs......
@joerowland7350
3 жыл бұрын
@@joerowland607 hey nice name lol you in to bee's to
@shannonswyatt
5 жыл бұрын
I like it in theory, but I'm paying less than 10 a gallon for mis-tints. I don't care if my boxes are orange, or blue or pink.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Shannon Wyatt There are cheaper options, of course. My point was that latex paint can actually shorten the life of your boxes. It’s not about the color. Thanks for watching.
@privatebubba8876
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm so you're saying latex paint is going to shorten the life of my house. Not hardly.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
private bubba You didn’t listen to what I said in the video.
@privatebubba8876
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm I was responding to what you wrote.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
private bubba Did I say latex would shorten the life of her house? I specifically said latex paint was great for things like house trim and sheds and things that don’t move around and get chipped. The problem with hive boxes is that people put a coat of paint on think they’re done. But then they get all dinged up with hive tools and constant handling. The part that gets chipped first is the corner end grain. That’s right where the water goes. Then the water sits in the wood behind the paint and rots the wood from the inside. This is not an issue on a house. Unless you are banging on your siding with a hive tool and exposing end grain on your clapboards.
@BESHYSBEES
5 жыл бұрын
Cook your boxes in paraffin wax for ten minutes, when you pull them out paint with oil based(outside only). The paraffin soaks in and protects and as long as you don’t have disease problems they should last 20 years
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
brent behsmann Please tell me where to acquire a paraffin wax cooker and dozens of pounds of paraffin wax for less than $65!
@BESHYSBEES
5 жыл бұрын
Vino Farm you know I can’t beat your can for $65 you can make a shallow tray and cook one side at a time with a gas ring burner, we have a commercial size deep fryer converted to a wax cooker 2 boxes at a time it’s still a slow process but 20 yrs protection. The paraffin also deters moth and other timber pests
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
brent behsmann I was half joking. I would love to dip all my boxes in wax. It’s just a much more elaborate setup than I can handle right now. I’m not planning on getting much bigger than I am but I would probably look into a wax treatment if I ever do decide to grow into something commercial. I think the point of my video was that there are options besides paint. I found this one and it works for my situation. Wax dipping or box charring might be perfect for someone else. Just anything but latex paint!
@BESHYSBEES
5 жыл бұрын
Vino Farm I figured that much, our friend runs 2500+ hives his wax dipper does 1 a min with frames and requires 6+ people to operate it so I understand “elaborate” Have you heard of the bee bee tree? I really enjoy the vids and progress keep em coming
@beru666
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Have you seen that video about was dipping? kzitem.info/news/bejne/s62guaGQop-Wn4Y
@nicky3182
5 жыл бұрын
What about varnish couldn't it be a good alternative?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Nicky Du Plessis The key is the finish needs to penetrate the grain and be flexible. I think varnish would get all crackled with all the hot/cold cycles.
@nicky3182
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm cool thanks with the help and advice
@jo-han
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Would linseed oil work? I can't find any whey based coating locally...
@mikeries8549
5 жыл бұрын
@@jo-han I treated a hive body with linseed oil mixed with bees wax. After three years that box is UGLY. Mildew.
@mikeries8549
5 жыл бұрын
Do this video again in 3 or 4 years. What tears up my boxes are bees chewing their way out. Ever hear them gnawing?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Really??? I've never see or heard evidence of that. What kind of wood are you using for hive boxes? It must be tasty!
@mikeries8549
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm same flavor as yours. Eventually the box gets soft at the corners from abuse. Then you'll get enough boxes and colonies where you're not as careful. There's a guy in town here that's a painter/beekeeper. His hives always look new because he's anal about visual impressions. Me? I inherited mis-matching equipment then put bees from cutouts in. Low budget big time. Can't replace boxes fast enough to look sexy. Once you get where your bees produce a ton a year or better...looking sexy don't matter. Your hives are very sexy. ;)
@mikeries8549
5 жыл бұрын
The first one I built myself got decorated with fancy folk art. Beautiful. ...then I got serious. The top bars...beautiful but a pita to keep bees in. Back to white paint. It got busy. You're going to explode next season. Or crash. I crashed pretty hard 4th season. Hang on tho.
@privatebubba8876
5 жыл бұрын
I've got screened bottom boards and they pluck it like they are playing a harp.
@zacharysmith5947
5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeries8549 Wow, I guess I am heading down that same road. It is a beautiful box. I don't think the bees care.
@AllanGyllingOlsen
5 жыл бұрын
What kind of tree are You using for the hives?
@blaahster
5 жыл бұрын
Pine
@larrytornetta9764
5 жыл бұрын
The hives have to look different to the bees or they may drift.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
larry tornetta I put a single coat of paint on the faces of my nucs OVER the top of this finish. So the double nuc boxes look different to returning queens, but I need to do something similar to my big hives.
@mikeries8549
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm you have over thunk the mating nuc thing. Bees orient to a location in 3D. Move a hive up a foot and see. If a queen goes back to the wrong box you don't want that one anyway.
@buildingwithtrees2258
5 жыл бұрын
As a former long time log home coatings contractor: Find a locally available coating. It gets spendy to import coatings across state lines. Coatings will last 3-5 years. Black has the highest uv resistance, longer life. For example, permachink is my local coatings producer, available locally and cheap.
@CWsooner
Жыл бұрын
Yes but black is the most heat absorbent in the color spectrum so it's not good for bees in the summer especially in the south.
@buildingwithtrees2258
Жыл бұрын
@@CWsooner Bees can regulate the Temps. Boxes can also be placed in the woods.
@CWsooner
Жыл бұрын
@@buildingwithtrees2258 yes, they regulate the temps with bearding which is what will happen when using darker colors and or you don't vent unless they're totally insulated like this video states and the Apimaye hives prove for year round use. I don't want my bees bearding and your solution doesn't help regulate the temps or the moisture which is what the video is about. Shading the hive may be a problem controlling hive beetles.
@paparomesoutdoors711
Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video I’m in the Catskills and just got two new double stack large hives and couldn’t find anything safe for them this is perfect. How’s it holding up still? Any changes or concerns with the product and your bees
@PaulDrummer1
2 жыл бұрын
what do you use to wrap your hives? and how thick is your wood wall? and what wood is it?
@vickihawse3769
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My mentor taught me to melt beeswax and linseed oil. We melt it together in an old coffee can and paint that onto the raw wooden hives. It does not create a seal. But with repeated applications the wax does create a nice build up. It smells great and the bees seem to like it. Just a suggestion.
@awalker7581
5 жыл бұрын
Vino would you be able to have a look at the mini poly queen mating nucs this year ? Im curious about them and think youd be honest about their design/practicality :)
@Maanlingxx
5 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands beekeepers often use hives made of styropor/eps. So insulation is not necessary, because they are already made of the stuff you put around around them for the first winter. Why not use those, since your winters are colder than ours? They are much used because of the weight (much lighter than wood) and they last for up to 25 years. Google 'Segeberger' and you see what I mean.
@Erik76368
5 жыл бұрын
I think they look like shit
@jo-han
5 жыл бұрын
Wood is more natural, also it breaths and absorbs water (and dry out again). When it is cold and moist enough, water can condens on inside of styrofoam. Bees have interactions with wood, they also need stuff produced by molds in the wood and use it as antibacterial agent. Although those molds are usually not wanted inside the hive but sourced on moldy wood somewhere nearby.
@nunyabeeswaxri7358
4 жыл бұрын
I was able to order this at my local Ace Hardware in Rhode Island. Thank you for the tip
@02271953me
2 жыл бұрын
What is the white plastic layer you placed on top? Sorry, I didn't quite catch what you called it. TIA!!
@vinofarm
2 жыл бұрын
It's a piece of coroplast. Corrugated plastic.
@blueelectricfusion
5 жыл бұрын
What about soaking hive bodies in hot beeswax/linseed oil?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the wax dip method and it looks awesome. Unfortunately, the setup and investment in wax is way beyond what I or a lot of my viewers would like to spend. If the opportunity arose, I’d be happy to dip all my hives.
@alx252
3 жыл бұрын
Boiled linseed oil, just painted from the outside it a perfect protection. Wax dipping makes the box extremely heavy and is not very protective
@bobwebber8521
4 жыл бұрын
This product as far as I know is not available in New Zealand and the cost of purchase and shipping from the U.S. is astronomical so will have to keep plaguing our paint people to get their act together. Nice video by the way and have subscribed.
@JamesCrouchX
2 жыл бұрын
That time of the year again. Found a local supplier in Indianapolis, In, USA. Wow 5/17/2022 $37.00 a quart in stock. Indianapolis, Indiana, USA (more if I have it shipped)
@LazyDogsRanch
5 жыл бұрын
We have to paint down here or the boxes would disintegrate within the season. I use a primer/sealer coat and then latex on that. Works well through our rather extreme climate. But I'm always up for an experiment, so I might check out that stain (especially if it means fewer coats of stuff to do, as I just got another case of hive body parts to put out).
@f.demascio1857
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the product review, sounds like a great product. I did Boiled Linseed Oil and bees wax in, mixed a crock-pot, brushed on. Worked well, but laborious and best applied on hot days.
@BESHYSBEES
5 жыл бұрын
A link for flowering plants shrubs PDF download www.agrifutures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/publications/12-014.pdf
3 ай бұрын
Hi, I live in Quebec/Canada where we have -40 to +40°C. I started 3 years ago and I put Exterior Translucent Wood Stain by Saman on cedar wood. They said one coat is enough, but I did two. Last year, on pin wood, I decided to try boiled linseed oil, two coats too (I just do the exterior). This year, I bought a hive with wax coating to compare the efficiency. I like to keep the natural wood colour. Also, linseed oil and beeswax coating are smells bees like. As two of my hives have a chalet roof, I used a paint/primer 100% acrylic flat white exterior paint just to give a better protection on the top, made by Sico.
@annettecornish3632
4 жыл бұрын
Your “awnings”...if I went into my local Home Depot what would I ask for to buy some of these? I have been using plywood with metal roofing for my rain protection. Very heavy and cumbersome to lift on and off. Your awnings look much better and much more user friendly. Thanks!
@paulinawimberley4930
Жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been looking for through the comments also! :) I’d love to get the right material for these awnings
@tadhoening6877
Жыл бұрын
I like this approach better than painting for all the reasons you mentioned. Glad to hear that you've had good results in your first three years. How have your hive boxes done since this video was posted? Are your six year old hives still in good shape?
@theohiohousewife
3 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time farmers painted their barns with a mixture of milk and iron oxide rich clay. It did need to be reapplied on occasion but even with severe neglect many of those structures still have their original siding. So a whey based sealer makes perfect sense to me.
@nathanbarker4394
5 жыл бұрын
If you paint your boxes every other year don’t you think that would work? Just wondered because mine are painted! Thats cool though
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Barker Painting boxes every other year sounds like something I would not like to do! If that works for you, fine.
@nathanbarker4394
5 жыл бұрын
We would probably need to repaint this year. There already painted so don’t have much a of a choice. Keep up the videos!
@themadmailler
3 жыл бұрын
interesting mentality. Ever think about using something like boiled linseed oil or beeswax?
@vinofarm
3 жыл бұрын
I like linseed oil and I'm using it to finish my barn. Future woodenware will probably be coated in linseed oil. Beeswax would be nice, but expensive. I like the concept of a paraffin/beeswax dipping, but don't really have the setup and I don't really have all that much woodenware to treat right now.
@Niko-ri4rs
5 жыл бұрын
Aye I live in Hudson valley in NY we sure have had some crap weather this spring! Terrible for my bees
@minecraftepicbuildsbystrik6320
5 жыл бұрын
Can you please make another video PLEASE I'm waiting anxiously
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Within the hour... Steady, pal.
@johnn1a2
5 жыл бұрын
I use 100% Acrylic. I prepare my boxes thinking of the bees inside not how they look but what's best for bees. My boxes are six years old and look the same as 6 years ago just some bee droppings. I put one coat primer and two coats paint I use white or yellow alternating colours, and putting distinguishing markings on every front of hives. For the obvious reasons greatly reduces drifting which can be especially negative on hives if freshly Mated queen goes in wrong box. The other obvious reason is the heat factor. Lean against a white car in the sun when outside temp is around 90*F. Your boxes are darker in colour ,and they all have the same appearance. The only thing I wish I had of done is seal the Joints at ends with putty, then primed and painted.
@acs6656
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, know if you can use this on Cedar wood? Also a lot of people in the UK use cedar wood boxes and the impression I had was that you wouldn't need to paint them due to the natural oils in the wood?
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Toby LeRone Have a look at their web site. I’m sure it would work on cedar. Cedar is rot and bug resistant, but not impervious to water soaking in and expanding the grain. I’d think some kind of sealer on the open end grain would be beneficial.
@Jul3swashere
2 ай бұрын
Do you still do this to your new hives? How has it held up throughout the years? I'm considering doing this instead of painting but not sure
@cultleader6977
3 жыл бұрын
What about Thompson's WaterSeal Waterproofer Plus Wood Protector, Clear ????
@jeremymartin7474
5 жыл бұрын
My Tung Oil experience has been great! Great looking boxes and easy to use. Nothing gummy or messy in my situation. Recoat time is a little long...about 24 hrs. Wonder what happened to you Tung oil experience? Thanks for the cool product info! I’ll try that stuff if I can find it in MN
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Martin I’ve seen many formulations of Tung Oil and some of them have drying agents added that I try to avoid. The true tung oil is really sticky and takes forever to cure.
@janiceseigler6317
5 жыл бұрын
100% Pure Tung Oil is FDA approved for food contact and has no additives, harsh chemicals or VOCs. I use it and my hives are protected and beautiful! I place the hives out in the sun and they dry fast.
@guangyizhu5232
3 жыл бұрын
it could be better if we prepare a tray or a shallow tub half filled with that polywhey thingie, and just dip the hive boxes in one by one, quicker and more thorough
@lonoris74
5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and I honestly wish you did get the things that you use as you seem to really enjoy them! I do have one unanswered question though, instead of paint what do you use to color your different hives? (Like the resource hive) I'm not at all involved in beekeeping I'm just legitimately curious, oh and thank you!
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Lanoris That is just paint, but it’s painted OVER the sealer. It’s only there for the splash of color. Not meant to protect the wood. And it’s only on one side of the box.
@DougMcHone
3 жыл бұрын
I bought a packet of Eco Wood from Home Depot for under $15. That packet will mix into a gallon of water. It claims to be a one and done wood treatment and a few woodworking beekeepers have discussed it on KZitem. I have one "bee barn" finished and another almost there. They aren't as pretty as yours but I thought using different woods on the front of them might help the bees know which is which better.
@vinofarm
3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Send me a link!
@DougMcHone
3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm kzitem.info/news/bejne/2WeM4KuGjpRkZHY Here is a decent video example. Some of the videos show the boxes being dipped briefly in the solution with good results years later.
@vinofarm
3 жыл бұрын
@@DougMcHone I meant the bee barn!
@DougMcHone
3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm LOL. I only have one photo so far, please excuse the mess. I started with a 8-frame box that was 16 1/4 inches deep, but ended up adding a 3/4 inch board on the bottom to hold the insulation, so it's 17" tall. Next step is custom made frames and a custom bottom board. I'm thinking screened with a tray underneath to trap hive beetles/varroa mites. Next Spring is my target to be ready photos.app.goo.gl/a7u1E5NasGbtfQr59
@DougMcHone
3 жыл бұрын
2 barns and 2 Modified Funnybug Bees bottom boards to make SHB lives miserable... and short. I used pine, pallet wood, and reclaimed wood, but only pine on the inside. The vent/feeder/wick boxes are next, followed by an inner/outer cover. Supers too if I can get them done. I think I can batch supers and the feeders as the horizontal and vertical dimensions are the same. photos.app.goo.gl/g9bNsu5ivmx8SntFA
@hypsin
2 жыл бұрын
Naked stain will disintegrate within 2 years, take it from someone who tried it before. Bite the bullet and do a proper primer + exterior paint if you want your boxes to last for more than two seasons...
@billb.2673
Жыл бұрын
Hey Jim.....so here it is 4 years later and the outdoor furniture (two benches, two Adirondack chairs, 4 side tables) we treated with the Vermont Natural Coatings goop is holding up great! This was brand new, unstained virgin wood and it soaked up this stuff like a sponge. As you mentioned, it's important to put it on quickly and get that second coat on immediately before it dries. Just thought I'd follow up with a "real world" long term review. Thanks again. Bill
@timlewis9873
6 ай бұрын
I put that on some of my bee boxes. 3 yrs. later the wood is bear. I would never use this product again. This is not a how to comment, it's just the truth.
@ericklingele661
Ай бұрын
@@timlewis9873 I agree with you Tim. I put this product on over 50 medium boxes about 2-3 years ago. Now I have to find another solution because some of the boxes are in terrible shape already. It is an expensive mistake!!
@1aliveandwell
5 ай бұрын
How does it look on wood after ages? Need something for wood fence that is less flammable (live in fire area)
@mdj131313
2 жыл бұрын
Paraffin wax is how I seal my boxes. I boil the frames for about 3 to 4 minutes. works well...
@sarahs7058
5 жыл бұрын
If I ever go into beekeeping, I am going to review all of your videos as my sole tutorial!
@andywalters3264
5 жыл бұрын
If you dip the hive parts into,hot wax once it will last approx 25years.. obviously you cannot do this a tank of wax is expensive but it is worth looking for somebody who can do it for you, good luck with the coming season Andy UK..
@chriswright1991
Жыл бұрын
Question........would this be OK to apply this to a solid bottom board ?
@aheckers
3 жыл бұрын
Why can't you wax them down? Isn't wax a sealing medium?
@umustbbornagainActs2-38
Жыл бұрын
Will going from white hives to a natural finish confuse my bees?
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
2 жыл бұрын
I don't paint my hive boxes... Here's how I paint my hive boxes... 😂🌱🐝
@vinofarm
2 жыл бұрын
00:30 *with latex paint
@HUNZY-qo3cv
Жыл бұрын
I used left over deck paint kinda ugly
@pcdubya
5 жыл бұрын
I have a couple I put a water based red barn stain on just because I had some at the farm. It seems to be holding up and is super easy to apply compared to painting, 10 bucks a gallon. The others I put kilz 2 primer and then top coat with 9.00 a gallon mismatched paint. I make most of my stuff and try to keep it cheap because nothing is lasting too long in the baking sun and weather of the south. Nice video
@OkieRob
5 жыл бұрын
Well shoot, now I have to replace 20 something hives worth of woodenware.
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
OkieRob Sorry, Rob. This is the future.
@OkieRob
5 жыл бұрын
Vino Farm , I'm always late to the party
@geturphil69
5 жыл бұрын
I got stung for the first time today. I wasn't even holding anything standing next to the hive during inspection and I clasped my middle finger and thumb together and just so happen to catch a bee between them. Stung me in the finger. I had a buddy there-it was his first experience with bees. As I continued the inspection another one tried to sting me but I backed away from the hive and swiped her away each time she tried to peg me. I put on my veiled jacket and continued the inspection until she started trying to get my hands. I backed away from the hive and returned when she was leaving me alone again and just wrapped up the inspection a little early. As I was closing up the hive she got on me again and I walked towards my buddy saying, "I think this has been the same bee trying to get me." About that time I guess I got in proximity of him and he wasn't wearing a suit. The bee switched targets and went after my friend. She stung him in the back of the neck. He ran away and left after that. Rest of the inspection for my other hive and the one we were stung from went okay. I opened up the aggressors again and put their beetle buster in there. Didn't see the queen but there's eggs. I hope it was a fluke and it was the pheromone from the first sting. That is a about 3 week old package of bees and if they're mean then I'm about to have a lot of meanies :P.
@julieenslow5915
5 жыл бұрын
Apply smoke to the sting area after you have removed it - to remove the alarm pheromone. It helps that, but is not 100% effective if they have already caught the alarm. Best to just walk away, taking the smoker with you. Then after a minute or two of the smoke application, go back and proceed. Crossing your fingers is optional.
@tallakff7349
5 жыл бұрын
I Live on an island in Alaska in a rainforest so I placed my hive in a garage with a small duct to the outside. I treated my hive the same way even though it is indoors. If you have time, I would appreciate your comments on my beekeeping videos (I only have two so far)
@julieenslow5915
5 жыл бұрын
TallAKFF Please be sure your bees can not get into any antifreeze. It is sweet, and very deadly. Generally, it sounds like you are doing what is needed to give them a good chance in a rather hostile environment. Kudos.
@ThePG90
2 жыл бұрын
There are also a few traditional ways: 1: Old beekeepers around here used to boil theyr hives in bees wax. I'v heard that this worked really well but wax is expensive so most beekeepers rather sell the wax nowadays. 2: Propolis. A solution of propolis in alcohol can be used. It also works well but has to bee renewed regularly and (like wax) propolis can be sold for more than paint costs. 3: Lineseed oil was also commonly used and works well (if renewed from time to time) It can be quite cheap if you find the right seller (filtered oil for painting is best, non filtered for animal feeding (e.g. horses) is cheapest) Downside: takes a looooong time to dry (sometime weeks) It needs UV-radiation and oxigen to dry. The first layer should be pure, a second layer should be mixed with natural pigments. Darker pigments better protect the wood from UV-radiation. Lighter pigments work better if you don't want the hive to overheat in the summer. I like Iron Oxide. It's non-toxic and unexpensive. Thouroughly boiling the oil before use is the traditional way to make it dry faster...but still slowly. (It won't penetrate the wood as deep as unboiled oil though. A good alternative for the second layer) PS: Only wax or propolis should be used on the inside. It's your bees home...they don't like unfamiliar chemical human stuff around. But the old bee keepers told me that the bees do this part themselves if you give them a few seasons time.
@commonsensegaming1756
3 жыл бұрын
I seen some bee keeper basically deep fry their wood boxes in wax. Then KZitem started recommending me videos of people treating their fences with motor oil. Obviously I'm like "that's is not healthy ". Then I seen videos of people treating fences with cooking oil. In the end I thought maybe I will combine some different methods. I am wanting to deep Frye one of my boxes in used cooking oil after I use an old Japanese technique for preserving wood called sho sugi ban. Should last forever lol. And we will see how the bees react.
@ximono
4 жыл бұрын
"Latex paint breathes"? Whoever said so don't know what they're talking about. Alkyd paints may "breathe" _some_ if painted thin, but it usually isn't. High quality linseed oil paint breathes and is good for both wood and bees. You also have other traditional and modern paints that lets the moisture out, but they may be hard to find.
@danielgriff2659
3 жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion of Thompson's Water Seal? and not sure why you dont fill the staple divots with wood filler first.
@vinofarm
3 жыл бұрын
I've never used it. I've been using Linseed oil lately.
@xJuno
5 жыл бұрын
oh great youtube unsubscribed me from your channel and i haven't been able to watch any of your videos since around november 2018 :( i'm rewatching it sll now but i'm sad i couldn't *bee* there when it was all happening!
@djg585
3 жыл бұрын
I dip the edges and seams of the new (assembled) hive body in very hot beeswax, for about 10 seconds each dip. This year I'm thinking of simple coating the whole box in beeswax (if I have enough wax!).
@johnemmenecker4859
2 жыл бұрын
dude im scaling my operation and you saved me a whole lot of money....... I have a sawmill so I was planning on using some cool hardwoods and oils, but now I am glad I watched this so I didnt just paint and subsequently doom all my boxes that were gonna be made from pin oak and other scrubby wood I have.
@tillerbeez6575
4 жыл бұрын
Good info but I'll stick to buying clearence exterior latex for about $7-$10 a gal. Color is of no concern, in fact to more contrasting colors I get the better the bees can find their way home.
@777Thebear
3 жыл бұрын
I use i mix of raw organic food linseed oil and beeswax. Linseed penitrates deep into the wood and brings the beeswax with it 2 to 3 coats makes it waterproof. You just reapply it once a year. Its food grade no worries about chemicals or paint chips getting into your honey.
@bonnied72
4 жыл бұрын
Could I apply the Poly Whey stain & then when it is dry paint my boxes if I'd like colorful hives? Or would that potentially make the hives retain too much heat? (I'm picking up my 1st ever hive set up next week).
@sunshaker01
5 жыл бұрын
This seems like a better solution than hot wax...
@vinofarm
5 жыл бұрын
Sun Shaker If I had large vats of beeswax, that’s the finish I’d go with, but I do not , so this is working great instead.
@sunshaker01
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm You don't want to use the beeswax for the hive boxes, the melting temperature is too low, so in the summer when it gets hot and has direct sunlight your hives would "sweat" the beeswax out of the wood. The wax they use is usually a mix of Paraffin (80%) and Microcrystalline (20%) wax or a mix of Paraffin and Rosin. I personally don't want to play with 300F wax around open flames, especially when it foams up, so that is why I think what you use is a better solution.
@Jerfish1
3 жыл бұрын
My Layens hive has aluminum corner protectors just for the reason you mentioned about the end piece vulnerability. Horizontal Hives in general are less prone to dinging, but I wish I had seen this video before I painted my new hive yesterday!! It’d be nice to have a natural looking finish.
@Bogie3855
5 жыл бұрын
Why not just take some beeswax and mix it with solvent to make a sealer cote. I use it for cutting boards that lead a hard life. The solvent evaporates quickly and allows the beeswax to penetrate the endgrain as well as the pores on the boards.
@curtferguson1421
3 жыл бұрын
Eco Wood treatment is quite a bit cheaper, comes in powder form you can mix yourself in a tub and dip woodware in to protect all sides. Treatment lasts for years and completely safe.
@longie2484
4 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a suitable protection for my hives and l came to the conclusion to use pure Tung oil. The research l’ve done says to give a 1:1 coat mixed with terps as a first coat then add a third more oil. The final coat is pure oil. Would it still turn black doing it this way?
@bradgoliphant
2 жыл бұрын
Vino, could you help me if you can? I have a one years old "cedar" flow hive. Prior to use, I used Vermont Natural Coatings to stain the hive. One year later the stain is wearing off, so I tried using Tung Oil and it could not seep into the wood and just made a mess. I need suggestions on how to preserve my wood. Anyone? Help please?
@vinofarm
2 жыл бұрын
Tung oil is kind of a mess anyway. Nothing will enter the wood grain after VNC treatment. I’d try cleaning the tung oil with some solvent and just letting the VNC age naturally. The wood is protected. It just may change color. It is possible to paint OVER VNC but the paint sits on the surface.
@bradgoliphant
2 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Thank you Vino. After asking a few friends for help, I may try sealing the entire hive, except the front until winter, with Fiberglass Resin. I see a lot of beekeepers using it after staining the the wood and it seals very nicely. What are your thoughts about that? Thank you by the way. I'm very grateful.
@robbailes9614
2 жыл бұрын
I will check at ACE and try it out. I’m putting my first hive together for this spring
@KD9ZHF
2 жыл бұрын
Do you still use this on your hives? Have you used the EcoWood Treatment ever?
@vinofarm
2 жыл бұрын
I coated most of my boxes 4 years ago. Recoated last year for good measure. Boxes still look great. I’ve never used eco wood.
@sledmaker02
3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of using the Poly-Whey for my hives when and where do you use color paint or milk paint.
@karenl6908
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that birch wood with the bark still on it is a natural protection against bugs, fungus, and mold.
@michaelmiller2200
7 ай бұрын
What load of crap who has time 4 that,sorry brother over thinking
@vinofarm
7 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@CuriousCreature
5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a gallon. Do you have a quiet box yet? I’m putting one together to move frames around.
@cliffdonally6608
2 жыл бұрын
Hi do you use metal on you outer cover
@CPMJunkRemoval
2 жыл бұрын
That “not vegan” was funny
@luci75d76
4 жыл бұрын
Paraffin is best for wood. Boil the wooden parts in paraffin and it’s the best for bees too. Inside and outside. Twice if you want for base parts
@dzdffxddvbaiden225
5 жыл бұрын
Omg Vermont coatings is the best! Used it on all our new bathroom cabinets and it has held up with 3 kids. Regular polyurethane would never hold up!! Love that stuff
@dogalarclk1541
3 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷🇹🇷👍👌🤝
@gabaisa
3 жыл бұрын
as of today (18Sep2021), on amazon a quart of this stain is $40 and a gallon is $100.
@vinofarm
3 жыл бұрын
I saw it at my local Ace Hardware recently for around $80/gallon. Not gonna lie, things are expensive. A gallon of Benjamin moore exterior paint is around $80, too.
@gabaisa
3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Hi Jim, I didn't expect you to respond. I just wanted to give your viewers a heads-up on the amazon prices. I want to take this opportunity to say I'm a big fan and really enjoy the bee videos. Congrats on the success of the channel and the beekeeping. I'm taking a woodshop class at my local high school and decided to build a 10-frame Langstroth beehive! Unfortunately, I'm not incorporating the bee-barn modifications. Maybe in the next build? This will be my first attempt at beekeeping. We'll see how it goes. Thanks again.
@doreenhurley938
5 жыл бұрын
I sent a copy of this video to Vermont Natural Coatings .... They need to see , They may not do anything , but they need to at least see .... I live in Virginia and IF I were raising bees they would be happy right now ... my back yard is chock-full of dandelions
@fatherthomas1575
5 жыл бұрын
Butcher block oil.
@ginomorris4873
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this important information living is Massachusetts myself I was having a hard time deciding on how best to protect my new hives and I feel your method is by far the most effective....
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