They sound fabulous for the stones from the lapidary group. Some are harder than opal and I think they would be great for them too. Don't be so harsh on yourself. They are prototype and you are simply refining skills to suit. You are in a position that combined student and teacher in one person. That's the hard part! Thanks again Roy.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
True I think for harder stones that typically melt the novas in no time these will be a much better option. Also did you pick up your parcel yet? I saw it got to Dimmy the other day.
@nancycurtis7315
3 ай бұрын
@RoysRocks Oh Roy. I opened, saw. To scared to LOOK. It's so heavy. How did you stick so much into the post bag. It was screaming for mercy!!!!! I am about to look for real. Open inner bag. Only looked at bags in bag so far. See names of places...LOL I'm hopeless! Just set inverter up for the "shed.". I've run out of excuses now. Time to start. 😳
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Haha I did pack it in there and gave it a bunch of padding. With good hunting you can get a lot for $500 still online. Just a lot harder these days.
@nancycurtis7315
3 ай бұрын
@@RoysRocks I just had a proper look. Oh wow. I see wonderful things. (plagiarized from Howard Carter after opening King Tuts tomb). LOL
@Scarlet_Soul
3 ай бұрын
The new learning curve will definitely be worth it for the price differential
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
After all this time who knew I could be surprised with the action of a resin diamond bur?! 😂
@MrSkrilla316
3 ай бұрын
"I don't always try out new equipment, but when I do it's on a black opal." -the most interesting rocks in the world
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Haha I probably should have picked something else. I'm really interested in trying these on fire agate.
@ThatOpalGuy
3 ай бұрын
good knowledge for those who switch bits.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Its a bit tricky at first but I think once used to it things will be much better.
@debadams5676
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your learnings from this Roy so we can hopefully avoid the same "mistake"! Beautiful stone.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Should hopefully help once these burs get out there. I'll be sure to tell anyone I sell them to how different it is to the novas.
@ccccarriemchardy9216
3 ай бұрын
Good learning curve. Opal and Obsidian are a different fish when it comes to polishing stones.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
No two materials being exact but it keeps us on our toes thats for sure.
@nicolemurray-jeffery7433
3 ай бұрын
Mistakes are the best learning tool. Sux it was on a nice coloured stone like this one. Thanks for sharing with us as always 😊
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Good thing is it is easily fixed thankfully. Not always recoverable so could have been much worse.
@karenjones7111
3 ай бұрын
I so love the way you explain everything . I just wish tough shipped to the U S.✌❤
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
I do ship to the USA? I actually have a parcel that needs to head that way now but I can't get in touch with the buyer (the email they left doesnt work).
@redeyestones3738
3 ай бұрын
Kinda surprising that you'd do the final test of these burrs on such a nice piece. But, live and learn. Thanks for making the mistake for us, so we might not have to. But also cool that you'd post it anyway and use it as a learning tool. A lot of content creators would just delete footage of a fail, as to not damage their ego. That's commendable. Really looking forward to seeing the new resin burrs in the shop soon. I'd love to get some. I dig the fact that they're almost twice the size of the diamond pacific nova points. That seems much more handy for shaping cabs. And I've always been kinda confused as to why the nova points aren't available with a 1/8" shaft so I don't have to change collets. I've bought two different keyless chucks for my dremmel, but they both make my bits wobble very badly, no matter how much I try to adjust them, so I've totally given up on the keyless chuck.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Well confidence that they would behave semi similar to the novas really did get me here. Not a huge problem just means an extra 10 mins to get to the finished stone from here (tomorrow mornings job). If you are already using the larger shank these will be the dream. For me unfortunately the sintered burs are smaller so still collect switching or chuck in this case. You can get some really bad chucks out there. I have maybe 1 in 3 fail out of the box. I always buy 2+ whenever restocking just in case.
@evanshipley8523
3 ай бұрын
Something else to consider with these burs is the size. They are much wider with a larger circumference. So there is quite a bit more surface area contacting the stone with every rotation of the bur. And it’s moving faster being farther from the center axis. So there could be double the grinding power in the same amount of time.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
The max diameter of these are almost exactly the same as a set of large nova points. they are just much longer.
@chadatchison145
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Roy.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
No worries Chad 🤘
@ResortDog
3 ай бұрын
I will buy a set one of these days when minings not an option anymore. We always said Koroit (boulder) was the rough that ate NOVA wheels.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Koroit does have quite a destructive affect on the nova resins for sure. I should try these on a few pieces I have lying around to see if it is better or worse.
@Kerrsartisticgifts
3 ай бұрын
Well, if I get a set of those from you, I won't have to adjust because I have never tried a nova point. In fact, I'm only used to an angle grinder and my adjustment is to the dremmel and little mini rotary tool. Thanks for all the videos, Roy.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Well that is a plus! Its a much more comparable grind to electroplated and sintered diamond tools. It really highlights how unique the nova resin is by being so soft.
@dcallan812
3 ай бұрын
Its all a learning experience. Net time you will do much better. Great update 2x👍
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Its already better by stone 2 thank the Lord. I think I was right in the video though and I'm probably never going to use the nova points again (apart from the 14,000 and 50,000 grits)
@bbisyy4u
3 ай бұрын
Well that was interesting. Puzzling to me how the similar grits work so differently. My thought would be that two similar grits should function about the same. Is it the base material that is making them so different. Very good lesson today.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Yep purely down to what is holding the grit in place. Metal, hard resin and soft resin. I am surprised at how much of a difference it comes out to be!
@PulitzerOpal
3 ай бұрын
Nice video! If the two brands of burrs are the same grit, the only thing that could account for the extreme "bite" of the new ones is a higher concentration of diamonds, right? You could say that it might be due to a softer resin, but were that the case, the new burrs would begin to shrink (in diameter). I am not much of a carver, but I would use the new burrs to cut opal more quickly (I think!) dp
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Grit concentration is hard to measure in the set resin but I could do an estimate based on surface concentration... Or ask the factory. The hardness of the resin makes a huge difference I was trying to think of a way to describe it and the best I could come up with was hammers. Sintered diamond = metal hammer, hard resin = rubber mallet, Nova resin = plastic kids hammer. The speed is scary, I'm thinking I'll only need the 800+ post sintered diamond at this point but needs a bit more testing.
@estycki
2 ай бұрын
I've never worked with Opal, but I found a green stone one time, it was a pretty green when wet... I started with 80 and it ate a chunk out of it, it looked like it was turning to clay. I had to move all the way up to 1200 and it was still eating away at it. I wondered if what I found was soapstone.
@RoysRocks
2 ай бұрын
Possibly. I'm not to familiar with anything other than opal.
@estycki
2 ай бұрын
@@RoysRocks just curious if you've tried dental suppliers as an alternative, they have those diamond impregnated polishing spirals and discs. They're interesting but I can't figure out what the grit is, they use generic terms like coarse, medium, fine...
@RoysRocks
2 ай бұрын
@@estycki I have in the past but most are a silicon rubber like bur which completely fall apart and degrade when using them on stone. If they lasted longer they could be okay.
@jay8353
3 ай бұрын
Hey Roy, it's good to see that you are human and do make mistakes lol. I have learnt so much from you and Phil from the Opal Mills. I'm wanting to give silversmithing a go and I was wondering if you could give me an idea of the tools you used to get started? Please? I am a bit confused about what sort of butane torch I will need to do silver. Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
I'm still trying to work out all the tools I have for the silversmithing. I dont think I'll need everything I bought so once I get a few successful bits I'll make a video on the minimum tools because I looked for that online as well and kept getting lost.
@jay8353
3 ай бұрын
Awesome Roy I'd appreciate that. I'll be waiting patiently...well as patiently as possible anyway 😆
@HHGLowBob
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Roy 👍 could you verify the grit size with a microscope please as those burrs look really promising? 😁
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I can probably do that. I think 3000 ansi grit is only a few microns and they are in resin so a bit tricky but can always try.
@tr4pwolf326
Ай бұрын
This happened to me unfortunately
@RoysRocks
Ай бұрын
Its all good we all do sometimes.
@tr4pwolf326
Ай бұрын
@RoysRocks haha all part of the learning experience 😁 just got our mine be moving to growing the end of the year :) maybe I'll have some better pieces for you to rub in the future 😉
@bentationfunkiloglio
3 ай бұрын
Isn't that the worst? I hate messing up a perfectly good opal. Think I'd be used to it by now, hahaha! I wonder if that Chinese manufacturer makes resin wheels. I'd love to replace the wheels on my CabKing.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
These guys dont make resin wheels but others do out of a resin much more similar to the nova resin (way softer). This factory mostly does concrete grinding and polishing pads hence the harder resin.
@julieverreault9241
19 күн бұрын
Can you, please, send us a like on where to purchase them, thank you!
@RoysRocks
19 күн бұрын
I think you mean link and I haven't got the final product made yet.
@VersaiOnline
3 ай бұрын
What rotary tool and rpm do you use?
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
Ozito with flex shaft at about 8000 rpm
@joefrank1929
3 ай бұрын
ban tic toc and cheep resin burrs from the free world. diamond pacific = freedom and liberty. I still love Chinese food.
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
If diamond pacific was more reasonable with becoming a distributer, then I may have never even looked for an alternative but they dont treat people well and so alternatives will appear.
@EpicsodeOne
3 ай бұрын
So the mistake you're talking about is hitting the face? Or is it that the specific grit you were using was too harsh or was still new and grity for an Opal?
@EpicsodeOne
3 ай бұрын
Or maybe for this brand you used you sould have started with 800?
@RoysRocks
3 ай бұрын
The mistake is misjudging how different a hard resin is to a soft resin bur.
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