Shunning friends and family for leaving your religion is cult territory. Something to think about.
@kerstinanderson6172
2 жыл бұрын
The past several months one of my very best friends decided to leave the Mormon faith. When she told me, I made sure she knew that I would still consider her a good friend. I am glad she told me her decision, and while it hasn't been the easiest news for me to hear, we are still very much there for each other, which I am very grateful for. She is very much a good person, and that is who I want to surround myself with.
@oliviaroos9152
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up LDS in a small town in Utah. Being a member of the LDS faith requires a lot: Sunday worship, many weekly meetings, 10% of your income, and complete compliance with church leaders. I remember seeing portraits of Joseph Smith, the founder, on the walls of the church and being told that except for Jesus Christ, no one else had done so much for the salvation of mankind. Mormonism has lots of quirks, including early polygamy that was practiced by all the early leaders until the US government jailed leaders for being polygamist. I never knew until I was an adult that Joseph Smith actually secretly married 30+ young teens and women, at a rate of 2 or more a month before he was killed. Some of the young girls he "married" lived in his household as adopted daughters. Other women he married after sending their husbands on church missions. All of it was secretive and denied by Joseph Smith during his life. The church never talks about these details openly but they have been forced to be more transparent in recent years because so many members feel they have been lied to. I left the church after learning about polygamy and how the second prophet advocated for slavery being legalized in Utah. These were moral qualms I had, but I was labeled as a bad person for leaving by some in my family and many of my friends. My perspective is that some faiths are more demanding and harmful than others. All faith is subject to question AND honest research. Many LDS people on this comment section say that those who leave the church are left in peace IF they are silent about the issues. However if they speak out they are labeled as the enemy. In my eyes the true enemy is the organization that avoids questions by shaming those who have honest problems with the early church.
@rebeccaoprea9917
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but if the faith is founded on a lie , then there is no truth at all in it .
@wess8346
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response. I really do wish you all the best and there is nothing wrong with asking questions and finding truth. I have heard, read, pondered, etc all those things that are troubling you. For me personally they have all led to dead ends and my faith and knowledge are stronger. Best of luck.
@ne9835
2 жыл бұрын
Whoah...
@blakebenham3130
2 жыл бұрын
As Wes mentioned, I too have had questions and concerns and searched for answers. Most of which come from unreliable sources and others seem to have answers that I can accept but may not fully understand. In the end, it has only made my faith stronger. It’s probably best to have humility and remember that we don’t know more than God does, and shouldn’t act like we do. I also won’t pretend to know more than the brilliant minds leading the church today. So I try to be humble and not outsmart myself. Sounds like you once had a strong testimony and shared it with the world. I bet it’s still in there somewhere :)
@Nepthu
2 жыл бұрын
@@blakebenham3130 Joseph Smith married more than 30 women and kept his marriages secret. Mormon sources at the time insisted Polygamy wasnt being practiced despite the "rumors" that turned out to be true.I can't understand how anyone would consider that acceptable.
@Ruprecttt
2 жыл бұрын
Fellow exmo from Utah here. There is life beyond. Do what's best for you and don't let fear lead you. There's definitely a social scene outside of it, just gotta look in new places.
@christinahek
3 ай бұрын
I'm always suspicious of a church that fosters dependence, meaning creating a situation where you feel like you're going to "spin out" without it. That's dominating through fear.
@karriweadon
3 ай бұрын
I left the Mormon church in 2017 and I am free in Jesus! I walk with Him - no person or church will ever get inbetween me and Jesus ever again. Thanks for freeing me Jesus!
@courtneyko1466
3 ай бұрын
Haha! Amen, Karri!!!
@darlayeates510
2 жыл бұрын
I am member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also. I really agree with Dr. John's advice. Many who leave the church are devastated because they leave everything they knew and loved without considering the things they still can hold on too, Including family and friend relationships. When our sister left the church it was kind of scary because we didn't know how it would affect our relationship. But it's been great as we have remained close without judgment from either side.
@BlakeBake
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it worked out for you guys. Having said that, if a family ever denounces a family member due to faith, there's something wrong both with the religion and the family.
@ember13dp
2 жыл бұрын
@@BlakeBake yep
@mrcharliewebb
2 жыл бұрын
Read the book of Romans........ in the Bible, not an LDS issued book, but a real bible that hasn't been edited. The man-made religion of Mormonism is sadly a country club. It's a sad thing on many levels when parents disown their kids if they choose a different path, or when friends throw each other away if they leave "THE CHURCH". When we're at God's gate he WILL NOT ask us what church we belonged to. He will ask simply did you follow me? And only me?
@drkimap5784
3 ай бұрын
My spirituality and guidance for my life path grew exponentially once I left the Mormon church
@BrotherhoodWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
"The opposite of faith isn't doubt, it's certainty." That spoke to me bro. That one's gonna make it's way into my mental DNA.
@aladyknight
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with a “Mormon” mother and a southern baptist grandma that played a large role in my life. It was a gift to be exposed to the truth of my Mormon faith from a young age. Too many faith families paint the past in roses and then the kids feel betrayed by the truth. Religious histories are messy. They’re full of humans who get it wrong often.
@tokouatonga7914
2 жыл бұрын
I’m a proud member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. This is a great comment.
@waterpolostr17
2 жыл бұрын
I'm also a devote Latter Day Saint member and I really appreciate the advice John gave here. I hope Sean can do what he feels is right and that members of the church will still show him love and support as the Savior would. I wish more people who are having faith crisis would follow the council to look for the good they have gained from their membership in the church instead of wanting to burn it to the ground.
@ingramwifey2016
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a devote Latter-day Saint, and I appreciate this call so much. There are a lot of questions I've been asking myself. This helps a lot ❤❤
@janelleg597
2 жыл бұрын
Question away. Courage and hope to you🙏
@amandaharwood6126
2 жыл бұрын
There are others questioning many things about the church. I just posted a comment about listening to the Mormon Stories podcasts... best wishes to you! Hugs!
@TBIhope
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wish you all the best. But figure out what you yourself have questions about before you turn to general conference talks, the mormon stories podcast, or anything else. You don’t need factual or logical evidence to support your decision. God leaves it up to you to decide what to do with your life. If you think your life will be better if you stay, stay. If you think your life will be better if you leave, leave.
@rameysavoie7442
Жыл бұрын
CES Letter
@michaeleardley
2 жыл бұрын
I've left the Mormon church and have been ostracized by the majority of my community. Not fun but sometimes necessary
@th3_crappi3_kill3r
2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Don't read the nonsense in this thread. All the brainwashing in the world in here right now.
@kathleenberg9168
2 жыл бұрын
Mormon Stories Podcast is helpful.
@luannkelly5071
2 жыл бұрын
We have a family friend with a fear of leaving Mormonism. His wife doesn't want to leave also because they will be shunned from all their friends and some family. They decided to just stay with the Morman church to keep their circle of friends rather than lose everything. I went to a baby shower at a Mormon's home and all these women had babies and were like, why did you invite her? Not one of them spoke to me. It was so uncomfortable! They WILL lose their Mormon friends.
@vickeycodella7828
2 жыл бұрын
That’s terrible. I’m sorry you were treated that way. I’m a member of this church and I would have sat beside you and had a great time getting to know you.
@KidCity1985
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good thing. To leave that cult.
@justinbowman2126
2 жыл бұрын
I am a Latter-day Saint as well. I appreciate his call. It’s normal to have questions and doubts. How you go about and who express those to makes a lot of difference. If you only express to other doubters you will only get more doubts. I have never lived in Utah but I have a lot of family that does. From the outside looking in, being a member of the church is more of a culture than a religion. I can understand his worry if he leaves. Dr John did a good job, as always, with this call.
@nickdipaolofan5948
2 жыл бұрын
I am a life long active member who at the age of 40 had a faith crisis. I noticed several inconsistencies regarding what modern prophets taught. I also started researching the history of the church and noticed that the church was whitewashing and distorting the actual history. I went through the proper steps and brought my questions to the bishop, who referred me to the stake president, who completely dismissed my questions. I then went to the church handbook and followed the handbook and wrote my questions down in a several page letter addressed to the first presidency and gave it to my stake president to forward to any church representative who was authorized by the first presidency to answer my questions. The response was insulting. It was basically something generic you would expect to get back from a companies PR department that does not want to admit ANY past or present wrong doing or inconsistencies. The letter implied that I was just interpreting the quotes I was citing differently than the prophets intended meaning. This was so insulting because I had literally read EVERYTHING this prophet said on the subject I was brining up and there was no possible other interpretation of his position. So, how you go about it and who you express those to making a lot of difference is simply not true. There is NO way to get your questions answered by the church. If there is, please give me an example of someone who had a question that the church answered directly and now we have the answer.
@oliviaroos9152
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickdipaolofan5948 agree completely. You can ask the approved questions. You can receive "personal revelation" as long as you never contradict the leaders. And you're never supposed to criticize leaders "even if the criticism is true". Life is better on the other side.
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not about having doubts. It’s about actually looking at the information that’s right in front of you and reading about the history of the church and the discrepancies and the things that they hide. And if you read about Joseph Smith he was a horrible man. He was a ConMan actually. I don’t say this to be mean her to be rude to you. I was also LDS and now I’m considering apostate. But I research for many years before I made this decision. And I’m pretty sure that I made the right decision now I follow the real Christian faith not one that was made up by some guy that was peddling stories and making up things as he went so that he could have multiple wives and take money from people. Look into the history I’m not talking about the history of the church books that you will see you at your local ward. I’m talking go to the library and start comparing the Bible to the book of Mormon. It’s almost verbatim. Only certain words were changed to make it look like Joseph Smith wrote it. But he took it directly out of them Bible. He plagiarized basically. I hope youCan see the truth do not close your heart. Think about how crazy all of that stuff sounds talking about different levels of heaven. Crazy stuff and all the weird stuff that you do when you go and get sealed in the temple and get married etc. those come straight out of the Masons. Joseph Smith was amazing and he took what he learned there any new played it to his new faith that he made up. All of the information is out there it’s nothing that I making up. God bless you
@twilde3754
2 жыл бұрын
Sean, if you are going to leave the Mormon Church you need to get out of Utah, first. You will always be spinning your wheels in Utah. Leave, leave soon and start over in another place. There are many, many places to start over.
@It.is.kayladiaz
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I grew up Mormon in Utah most my life. All my family is still Mormon for the most part except a few like me who have left and don't buy it. My husband and I moved and left Utah over 10 years ago to the east coast. Definitely eye opener...most are very sheltered and only see things one way there.
@anthonyschneider8835
2 жыл бұрын
Growing up Catholic I was always told that it's ok to ask questions as long as you end up still believing in it. The more I researched the religion and its teachings the easier it was to see that it's a giant self-propagating lie (all religions included here). Religion makes it so hard for people to ask questions and eventually leave the faith with family and social pressures being sadly one of the toughest. If your family and friends require you to believe their fairy tales to accept you then they don't really love you. Generally, when people don't accept you for leaving a faith it's because a.) They aren't smart enough or haven't put the work in to figure out it's a lie b.) Cannot accept that they spent their whole lives believing a lie so just choose to go with it c.) They are afraid of the implications of leaving the faith themselves
@donnafontaine2799
2 жыл бұрын
Well said! And thanks for your intelligent comment
@meganparker8703
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with everything you said. Super intelligent comment
@Nepthu
2 жыл бұрын
A major difference between Catholics and Mormons is that most Catholics only go to church on Sunday and may keep religious items in their homes. Meanwhile Mormons are expected to tithe 10% of their income, attend church every week, do church service work mid week and then go to the Temple to obtain even higher blessings. Mormons whole lives are wrapped in the church.
@ML-kv8lv
2 жыл бұрын
I left the faith more than ten years ago after finding some of the ward members paying their tithing with credit card debt. I was already sick and tired of the Mormon church inculcating the importance of tithing and offerings. My husband and I were big fans of financial safety that it was no brainer to leave the church. No more tithing slavery. Even Jeff Terry Green, the ceo of the trade desk left the church.
@katjorbar
2 жыл бұрын
How could what other people do influence your core beliefs?! That makes no sense!
@ML-kv8lv
2 жыл бұрын
@@katjorbar Religion is lucrative business. I found better and more theologically knowledgeable clergymen and women and more efficiently organized churches that explained to me how they'd spend the church members' tithings and offerings. We've been smart consumers . Those skittish idiots who got brainwashed and trapped in the Mormon food chain would never tap out. No regrets for one second! Leaving that prophet selling corporation was the best decision ever. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians...there are plenty of normal and generous Christians out there. So glad we joined a normal church .
@jackiechoate6163
2 жыл бұрын
Well I'm pretty sure you can't pay tithing with a CC. The online donation form requires a checking account number, but if you are paying tithing but then using your CC for groceries, then I see where you are coming from.
@rachelgee7894
2 жыл бұрын
That's just stupid. The church doesn't tell anyone to go into debt to pay tithing.
@jackiechoate6163
2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelgee7894 Even though that is true, they teach to always pay tithing first over anything else. They preach that God will bless you for it. Some people might be too embarrassed to ask for help from the church with rent and groceries. Most Bishops, if not all expect members to pay tithing to get regular help. I have experience with this in the past.
@tokouatonga7914
2 жыл бұрын
Not to be disrespectful to this brother. Just want to lighten up the mood a bit lol 😂 It’s a common joke among my fellow Tongans… “ ‘alu koe, ‘oku toko lahi be siasi ia”. Loosely translate, “go ahead and leave, there are already plenty members of the church”. Lol 😂 On a serious and sincere note… Good luck to you brother! I have had too many, way too many spiritual experiences to allow some small doubts to wash away my faith. Being a person of color, I had a lingering discomfort when it comes to black and the priesthood for a very long time. It was never a do or die question, nonetheless it was in the back of my mind and I often wish there was a comforting answer. Recently, I had a marvelous answer as I was studying. I will be forever grateful for that experience. Do what you think is best brother. At the end we will all be judge individually not collectively! Cheers 🍻 (that’s rootbeer float btw lol 😂)
@andyg806
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Dr. John's level headed approach to this question. Too many people can't refuse the urge to take cheap shots at the Church. I hope the caller takes the time to truly find out what he believes. It sounds like up until now, he has been sleepwalking through his faith.
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to start off my comment by saying the Mormon church is definitely not a place where you can ask questions. If you do ask questions you are told to keep them to yourself. That’s exactly what happened to me when I started asking questions. First I went to my bishop and sat down and asked him all kinds of questions, they visibly got irritated with what I was asking and they referred me to the stake president. I was basically told by the state president to keep my questions to myself and that I was not to read any outside literature that didn’t have to do with the church. Let me reiterate, he meant don’t read any literature that the church didn’t approve. I was a convert. And I started looking into the religion and doing research and history after following the religion for over 10 years. I found so many discrepancies and things that didn’t make sense. But in this faith you are taught not to ask any questions. I live in a predominantly Mormon community outside of Vegas and I stopped going to church so I am considered an apostate. All of my friends or so-called friends in the church no longer speak to me and they pretend that I don’t exist when they see me in the local stores or when driving down the road. I can care less because it’s a false religion and I feel sorry for my brothers and sisters that are still continuing to follow a faith that is not true.
@shannonrose4916
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this is how the LDS church has designed its community. A person (family) is totally shunned. So sorry this happened to you.
@eurekahope5310
2 жыл бұрын
Cults love bomb those who are searching or join but ostracize those who leave.
@davidmilhouscarter8198
2 жыл бұрын
7:20 The foundation and the story of Mormonism is wonky? No, you don’t say… 🙄
@minaguta4147
4 сағат бұрын
"The opposite of faith is certainty."
@bradleysherman3103
2 жыл бұрын
I am currently a sunday school teacher in the church. I love questions. I ask them each day I teach the kids and the kids are free to ask any question they want. I spent two years on my mission asking questions about God and church history. I read more Anti-church material than anybody else I personally know. In each case I got answers eventually. I find it incredibly dissapointing when questions are discouraged. I was never discouraged from asking questions whrn I was young. Church leaders commonly encourage questions as far as I can tell. The only people I know who discourage questions are those who are insecure in theit ability to answer them.
@Jupiter_Crash
2 жыл бұрын
Asking questions isn’t the problem. It’s that The Church limits your search to only church approved sources. That’s the equivalent of limiting your child’s exploration to a sandbox when there’s an entire playground to explore. Information control is not a sign of an ethical institution.
@whatthefifty
2 ай бұрын
I don’t know how old you are but when I was growing up in the LDS church, questions were not only discouraged, but we were shamed by leadership and other members for doubting! The mantra “Doubt your doubts!” came straight from the General Authorities, so to paint a picture of the Mormon church that they encourage honest questioning is disingenuous.
@TPeack21
27 күн бұрын
As a parent of an adult daughter who has left the church, I made sure that she knew that there was nothing she could do to make me stop loving her. It made a difference for her and me. This caller sounds like he could use someone that could help him understand the stuff he’s read. My husband is brilliant and is willing to share his knowledge. Please let me know if you’d like to email and get in contact with him. The biggest thing to know is that he needs to go to Jesus with his questions. The answers lie with Jesus. It always has. Ask Him.
@grantguy8933
2 жыл бұрын
love this guy.
@NickRaeff
2 жыл бұрын
A very close friend is a LDS member. I’ve looked into many of their teachings and readings (Book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price). Though there are many good quality teachings that can be found in their books, and I’ve met a number of Mormons who really are amazing people... I feel bad for them. The idea of looking your parents/friends/family in the eyes and saying “I don’t buy this anymore,” and then just deserting you is heartbreaking. Where is Jesus in that? Where is the Gospel in that? If indeed you claim to be a Christ-follower, why would you shun someone for being honest and finding their truth?
@jackiechoate6163
2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! As a Latter-Day Saint, I completely agree.
@rachelgee7894
2 жыл бұрын
You're never supposed to shun nonmembers. That's never something taught by the church. That's immature members who can't handle different points of view.
@michaeldodd9260
2 жыл бұрын
I am so “blessed” to not have been raised in a cult surrounded by lies and liars. Truly blessed. Religion is poison for the human mind and “spirit”
@AwakenTheEarth
2 ай бұрын
So true! Hope you're doing well
@mikkibates7854
2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be tough. If he's searching, one interesting book might be "Passport to Heaven," by Micah Wilder. He was a faithful Mormon who walked through some doubts after digging into the Bible a bit further. I love that you recommend living in communities that welcome questions. The Psalms are full of anguished cries to a God who knows our fears, and doubts, and yet He loves us still.
@vjs4539
2 жыл бұрын
The #1 no no in the Mormon church is researching church history
@aladyknight
2 жыл бұрын
This is false.
@chicken8471
2 жыл бұрын
@@aladyknight #1 no no in the mormon church is to research church history with unaffiliated outside sources.
@68Fourty72
Жыл бұрын
"My mom lives in Ohio and when she graduated from High School a friend said they should join the Mormons. My mom decided that the Church was not right for her and she left shortly after she joined, however the Church never left her. From time to time missionaries will ask her to come back."
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that Dr. John doesn’t realize is in the Mormon faith if you stop going to church they consider you in an apostate and they are pretty much instructed not to interact with you***read my previous post. It explains how I was ostracized when I stopped going to church and stopped being active and I stopped doing my calling. . They have even stopped having the missionaries come to my house.*DARN*🤷🏼♀️
@tyleralger6083
2 жыл бұрын
I’m an active member and have heard others say this. In my view, when someone isn’t attending I don’t see it as apostate at all. It’s really up to other members to reach out and I think some congregations are better at that than others. My old ward didn’t interact with me much but the one I’m in now is super welcoming. So I think it depends, but we aren’t told to not interact with people who aren’t active, we’re actually encouraged to do so through ministering. Some members are just more proactive than others in this area.
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
@@tyleralger6083 In the words that I was in they had a Fire side talk one time where it said that if you had friends or family that we are no longer active that we should encourage them to come but we should also limit the interactions that we had with them. I heard this myself.
@rachelgee7894
2 жыл бұрын
100% not true. In fact the opposite. We are encouraged to love and include others even if they leave the faith. Not sure what church you're talking about...
@tokouatonga7914
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest lie ever… wow 😮 this is far from the truth. We spend so much time and resources on trying to help people back into the fold that are wandering.
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
@@tokouatonga7914 All of you are commenting on this as if you know my ward and the members here. We all know it’s the members that are the ones that make people uncomfortable. How dare you say it’s a lie. This is exactly what happened to myself and several other members. After I started asking questions and showing proof to what I was saying I was told to basically be quiet and to not read outside information. I stand 💯 I’m what I wrote . It very much is the truth. So, if you actually know me and what happens at the ward I once attended I suggest you keep your comments to yourself. Have a nice time at your sacrament meeting this morning.
@TheHopeofIsraelWorldwide
2 жыл бұрын
Praying for the person leaving the Mormon Faith.
@Fadrowskis
2 жыл бұрын
To this caller: I was not mormon but... close to.. I went through the same he says. One day (13 years ago) I said to my myself... If I can go back to the early first christian church, what was like? What was the first church? (Christian). I converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. Keep searching . To delony: you tell the caller let's take religion out of the table and let's take parenting. ? Really? Dont u think these are two different things.?
@70s80sVintage
2 жыл бұрын
Turn it off…like a light switch
@tyleralger6083
2 жыл бұрын
Mormon church = The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
@courtneyko1466
3 ай бұрын
Would love to hear an update. It's been 2 years.
@Khemtime
2 жыл бұрын
Just leave. The people who ostracize you weren’t your friends in the first place. I get that Utah Mormons are different culturally then Mormons elsewhere, but you don’t want to be around them anyways.
@quarterlimit5838
3 ай бұрын
Get out of the bubble of SLC and life will make more sense Sean.
@DevylsAdvocut
2 жыл бұрын
Just be good people. Folks who are raised right know right from wrong, good from bad. Religion is/was a way to control people and explain things that humans didn’t know 2000 years ago. Religion was man made, and the Bible was written by men. Just understand that and live the way you feel is best for you.
@KEANUWHITE
2 жыл бұрын
Until you're dead and you become a spirit, THEN and until THEN, ,you will be talking different and wishing you had heed the good word. May God be with you on that Spiritual Journey
@rosejones2932
2 жыл бұрын
The Golden Rule, eh?
@Jupiter_Crash
2 жыл бұрын
@@KEANUWHITE - That’s complete nonsense.
@KEANUWHITE
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jupiter_Crash let my opinions be free, you’re free to think however you want
@Jupiter_Crash
2 жыл бұрын
@@KEANUWHITE - If you believe something without evidence you’ve crossed the line into delusion. You’re free delude yourself all day, have fun.
@NellBelle
2 жыл бұрын
The opposite of faith is certainty, what belief to wrap your mind around. In this day and age when most folks are Certain that theirs is the only way.
@mollynash2597
2 жыл бұрын
I am technically still a member but I haven't been completely active for about 3 years. I did not grow up in the Mormon bubble, so for me it hasn't been that hard to move away from the church. I would imagine for someone born and raised in Utah, it would be very difficult to leave.
@marlowilliams4264
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I prefer going to the Mormon church outside of Utah. The whole culture is too much in Utah.
@Khemtime
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sobeliever1638
2 жыл бұрын
Dr John seems like a new age believer.
@BG-nm5xt
Жыл бұрын
Of course he's afraid, don't be surprised Dr. John. Does he want to move to a community that is less dominated by Mormons? He will feel more accepted and find friends and community, if he would consider moving to a good place. He would find more diversity in thoughts and beliefs and find acceptance.
@BG-nm5xt
Жыл бұрын
He will be shunned by some friends and family, work associates, so be careful and think about relocating. Get some ex-Mormon support in your community and online who are willing to talk with you and be supportive.
@wendyfrick4262
2 жыл бұрын
Micah Wilder has a book called Passport to Heaven. The subtitle says that he was a zealous Mormon Missionary who discovers the Jesus he never knew. I have not read the book, but I've listened to him on KZitem and I would highly recommend him to people of any faith.
@alanparedes2034
2 жыл бұрын
So he can go from one kooky religion to another.
@AwakenTheEarth
2 ай бұрын
Religion is so messed up
@KidCity1985
2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck sir, give yourself time and grace. Sounds like mormons need to clean some things up. They may want to start by watching the South Park episode.
@cedrickparish7985
2 жыл бұрын
If my comments offend anyone, get over its called free speech!!!
@rameysavoie7442
Жыл бұрын
Idk if anyone needs to see this, but its okay to not believe in a god. It's also okay to never know if there is one.
@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391
2 жыл бұрын
Would he be disowned?
@jacobamundsen4837
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully not formally. But it is a huge cultural staple of living here. It seems the older generation is a lot more “ride or die” with what we call being “active” vs “inactive “ in the church. I’ll casually mention to my mother someone who no longer goes and she treats it like they died or something. It’s a little intense.
@waterpolostr17
2 жыл бұрын
No
@a.r.hollowayauthor7210
2 жыл бұрын
Normally not. But its like with any faith. The method of his leaving the faith formally, and the attitude he has towards those who still stay in the faith, will determine how he is treated afterword's. You wouldn't expect a Jewish man to permit his adult son into his home, if his adult son is going to insult his mother, father, sisters and brothers because they're wearing traditional garb, and eating kosher at dinner. That's disrespectful, rude behavior. But if that son leaves their faith and still has respect for those who have staid, and is willing to be kind and disagree without being disagreeable? Then sure. . . in most households they'll still be welcome at weekly dinners, not be disowned, etc. They're still family, even if they chose to go towards something else. The family might be heartbroken, but they still love their son/brother. Its only when they turn around and hurl hatred back at you that things start getting dicy.
@jaredandallie1681
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the family members
@bradleyburkhart8601
2 жыл бұрын
The term 'Mormon' has recently been labeled derogatory. Let's start to shy away from the term.
@candyluna2929
2 жыл бұрын
Really? So let's change our vocabulary every hour bc someone finds it offensive 😒
@nicolab2075
2 жыл бұрын
It's an irrational belief, whatever you call it.
@tewminator
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the everchanging world of Mormonism. Doctrines are now folklore etc, etc. I don't think anyone in the church really knows what they believe.
@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left
2 жыл бұрын
No, if you dont like it. Then you are too weak. The term is what it is
@jacobamundsen4837
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not “offensive” it’s just not the “actual” name of the church. There was a push from leadership a few years ago to use the true name, because it emphasized Jesus Christ rather than “Mormon.” Most members don’t really mind and will respond to both.
@michaeldodd9260
2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning, man invented God. The end.
@cedrickparish7985
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 wrong!!
@Kittycattnatt
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy…..
@curiouslights7111
2 жыл бұрын
Mormons teach ppl common sense & call it gospel (stay away from drugs/debt/filth media). They say God blesses u when u do this. But it's not God, that's just natural consequences/how the world works. It's ok tho, some people need to be taught those things.
@R.G.0000
2 жыл бұрын
D&C 130:20-21 “There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated-And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.”
@davidmilhouscarter8198
2 жыл бұрын
10:15 Has he been writing letters to all of his wives?
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