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@jong5306
15 күн бұрын
I got super excited but then saw they ship to the EU and USA but not the UK 😢 Curses to Brexit!!
@christianwheeler8386
17 күн бұрын
As a guitar player, synth nerd, and fellow groovebox obsessed this is so helpful. Your old video on patch bays was a huge inspiration for me. I watched it many times. This is the next level. 22:01
@wren23_bass-synths
18 күн бұрын
This is a great idea for using multiple pedals.I have many ideas now how to setup my pedals for my synths. Great video!
@TangoDelta70
17 күн бұрын
Top Notch Video as always! I can't agree more with the importance of labeling. I've plugged and unplugged gear to move around, and before I labeled what was what, actually burned out a power adaptor in the process. Thankfully it was just an adaptor and not permanent damage on the equipment. It makes things so much easier to navigate around too! A patch bay for Pedals! Genius!
@Knightsnare
16 күн бұрын
I really like the cables that have the flat back to them to keep the pedals close together, very tidy!
@landonh3535
16 күн бұрын
I just did this exact thing except I used a spare patchbay . I can now route any sound in my studio through my pedals in any combo. It’s a beautiful thing.
@BoBeats
16 күн бұрын
👌
@framlucasse
18 күн бұрын
The patch bay on the pedalboard is a good idea!
@ondraJams
16 күн бұрын
Amazing video, thank you🙏. Full of great ideas and for sure it is the best 101 tutorial how auxs, sends, returns, normalization etc works. Thank you!
@audiblevideo
17 күн бұрын
What a tour de force of an explanation. Thank you.
@DesertNinjaX
17 күн бұрын
Just picked up one of the Minibay patch bays and two of the Nanopatch M' 🎼🎶🎵🖤
@ManCalledMif
18 күн бұрын
Meaty info video. Excellent work Bo
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
thank you! it took a while to make
@DoomyMacDoomface
16 күн бұрын
I use the Boredbrain Patchulator to change up the signal order of my pedalboard. Makes it easier to interface with synths as well. I've started to build a synth setup on a pedalboard. All semi modular, so they can talk and play with each other.
@infn8loopmusic
18 күн бұрын
Oh boy! Just reading the title gives me GAS for a patchbay. I kinda use this idea with my mixer to run signals out and back in, so I bet this will be really helpful!
@CognosSquare
17 күн бұрын
How cool is that pedalboard. Knob heaven.
@ChristianSamsel
17 күн бұрын
Patchbay as replacement for a loop switcher is a really cool idea.
@WoodyPianoShack
18 күн бұрын
wonderful video bo, good idea with the pb! just need to slap a looper pedal at the end of the chain, imho! give it a try for endless loops and layers :)
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
i really do need to get a looper like roland rc, i am not very used to using loopers!
@seoverus7805
17 күн бұрын
Been Waiting 3 Yrs for this ! Thank you Bo
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! Sorry it took me so long 😄
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
This is an excellent video, Bo! I do happen to know from experience that patchbays are the penultimate stop on the train which inevitably leads to matrix mixers. The water is warm here...
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
havnt gone down the route of matrix mixers just yet... but...
@ManCalledMif
18 күн бұрын
YES to patch bay 🎉
@seanp2k617
17 күн бұрын
Just gave Perfect Circuit and Big Daddy Hosa a few bucks for this patch bay and 16x sets of STP-201RRs and a bunch of other cables 😂 thanks my dude
@pinkmouse4863
16 күн бұрын
Just a quick comment from an ex-roadie: put clear heatshrink over all your wire labels to protect them, or they will fall or get rubbed off! Even better, get one of the Brother labelers that prints directly on heatshrink sleeves.
@The_artist_called_The_Engineer
16 күн бұрын
What’s wrong with a little overkill. On my guitar I have a ge200 and connect a pedalboard with a metal extreme, digital delay, octave and a volwah. Whereas for my synths I just have a Zoom 70CDR
@JSprayaEntertainment
9 күн бұрын
19:00 one of my Mixers has 4 Subgroub Outs with matching pairs , the ( qx2442 ) i use my Aux send to make feedback loops xD
@Personalnadir
17 күн бұрын
If I see a Zoia I always scroll through to see if any patches I made were used. I think that might be the biggest change that pedal made to my life
@Smordor_Stormcrow
18 күн бұрын
That’s pretty awesome 😲
@hulkslayer626
14 күн бұрын
Dan from That Pedal Show needs to see this! lol
@hulkslayer626
14 күн бұрын
I don't know how to link/tag someone... someone please tag Dan lol
@VacancyOfDisco
18 күн бұрын
I'm building a live pedal board for my synths and have been greatly irritated by the lack of stereo aux sends on mixers. I think the Radial Key Largo is my best option, but having a mixer with channel EQ and 2 stereo aux sends would be ideal... The only thing that seems to tick those boxes is the PLAYdifferently model 1.4... Which is outside of my price range right now.
@stephpicher
15 күн бұрын
I thought I would find this rather easy to understand, but not I'm a little "mixed" up. Maybe even a little fuzzy. (Still very very useful.)
@adissart
17 күн бұрын
Would you share which wires you use, link which you like. Your thoughts on which cables you would not choose. Great thoughts and information on the order of connection, and finally the useful use of a portable printer.
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
I like the flat patchcables from EBS I am sure theres cheaper equivalent cables but EBS have good reputation
@AlexBallMusic
18 күн бұрын
Really interesting to see your solution to this one. One thing - can you talk dirty to me about impedance and how you manage that?
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
Impedance.. honestly I have not found a solid way of dealing with it. I just plug stuff in and hope for the best 😅
@AlexBallMusic
18 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats Haha, OK fair enough. 😂
@Niven42
15 күн бұрын
So this is pretty cool Bo. I’m wondering - do you find it annoying that your 9V pedals need a different power supply from 5V modular? Is there a market for 5V pedals (that could be powered by USB or phone batteries instead of wall power)?
@BoBeats
15 күн бұрын
No not annoying at all Its a bit annoying if a pedal require something otjer than 9v DC power. But the psu i use can handle it
@tracyharms3548
17 күн бұрын
This showed up while I was taking a break from reconfiguring my patch bay interconnects. Coincidence???
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
Google knows you…
@peterpeper4837
18 күн бұрын
Great pedal for a board like that is the Electro Harmonix Tri Parallel Mixer, cheap , very flexible and sounds good.
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
Looks cool but does it allow for patching between the fx loops?
@peterpeper4837
18 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats Think of it as a single channel with three sends and returns that can be turned on and off individually plus eq on every return and polarity
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
@@peterpeper4837 so, not nearly as useful as a patchbay!
@peterpeper4837
15 күн бұрын
@@pjforde1978 Two entirely different things and both necessary.
@pjforde1978
15 күн бұрын
@@peterpeper4837 give me a matrix mixer any day.
@simonenligne
18 күн бұрын
Needs more Fairfield 🤠
@MrFlottgote
18 күн бұрын
What a nice pedalboard, Bo! Now, let's hear some music.
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
here you go bobeatsmusic.bandcamp.com
@dictabeat
18 күн бұрын
I have exactly the same label maker :D
@marcoscataglini8023
13 күн бұрын
Genius... I didn't know a non-eurorack mini patch bay like that existed... Neither I knew I needed it. I just hope I could spend to populate something exactly like that... ... But in the meantime I can just buy that bay and let it sit with the other underused gear... Just in case 😂
@BoBeats
13 күн бұрын
brilliant strategy 😘
@macaronafterparty
18 күн бұрын
zoom cdr. job done
@Scheckiification
17 күн бұрын
Surprised you didn’t do the Erica matrix mixer. It’s literally all of the benefits and dozens more and no need for patch cables. I have 2 in my current rig.
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
That one is very good too but i felt minibay is better suited for pure pedal setups One negative i see with the erica is reliance on minijacks for gear patching. So it would mean very difficult connections between L jack TS plugs into pedals into minijacks somehow
@Scheckiification
17 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats I agree with that being its biggest flaw. However I bought 28 right angle mini TS make to 1/4 TS female cables to work around that. It is however an additional expense….. I would love if they made a thicker version with all side mounted 1/4 jackfields!
@Scheckiification
7 күн бұрын
@@yannleroch1760 kinda. But kinda a hybrid. The difference is there are 3 different attenuation settings that can be applied to each route, so a very limited mixer, but it does make it much more creative than just a router.
@Scheckiification
7 күн бұрын
@@yannleroch1760 also while most routers will allow feedback loops (an integral part of the experimentation with the Erica and where you need that attenuation ability) and most routers will allow one ( source) to many (destinations) I know of no router that allows many (s) to many (d) and many (s) to one (d) routing. In fact that is by definition mixing.
@BobbyGeneric145
17 күн бұрын
Bo, I don't understand... I have the df audio minibay as well and mine flows from top to bottom... you seem to be connecting things across the bottom row... how did you go about doing that?
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
Turn off normalization If you have gen 1 open up box and use switches to turn off normalization If you have gen 2 theres switches behind a panel on the front
@BobbyGeneric145
17 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats ah gotcha. I have gen 1. I was just curious, my setup does what i need it to do.
@Synthwaver1
17 күн бұрын
Esta buenísimo eso que hiciste ahí . . .
@SentaAerger
17 күн бұрын
thanks for the video! i always wondered: what do you do with the aux outs on stereo channels on a mixer? do aux1 and aux2 still correspond to the left and the right signal of the channel respectively? also, i'm using the tascam lm-8st for connecting my synths/samplers/fx/etc in the studio and i can highly recommend it, it's small and it doesn't have unnecessary stuff like EQs that you hardly ever need when working with such gear
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
Hey! You have to test bc this could be different depending on mixers signal path. Could be its hard wired aux 1 L channel and aux 2 R, or some sort of sum. Hard to say!
@SentaAerger
17 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats i always just assumed it was a sum of the stereo signal on each aux...
@pauldolman7487
17 күн бұрын
Can you get parallel effects with your setup? I would suggest you look at RME fireface ufx iii.
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
Yeah, i can do parallel
@davidlafrancewinner4758
17 күн бұрын
Hi Bobeats- what model Zoom recorder is that one you’re using? Thanks👍
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
H6
@peterpeper4837
18 күн бұрын
A patchbay is a great idea. One with minijacks not so. At least use one with proper jacks or TT phone
@SmallWorldBigThings
17 күн бұрын
One of known advantages of patchbay is flexibility in use of external effects. Nothing new 🤷♂
@martianearz1806
17 күн бұрын
🤟
@juanjogarcia2956
18 күн бұрын
you cannot buy the minibay from European Union distributor without customs hassle? Am I missing something? I love it, but geting it sent to EU sure is not cheap, and customs process are complex. Some retail distributor I am not aware within EU?
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
Check with Unzunz! Linked in description. They are a Swe based store that sell to EU and US
@juanjogarcia2956
18 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats thanks a lot for the info. I did not realitze they were in Swe. Thanks!!!
@nagchumpalot
17 күн бұрын
Great anaother project to make me spend less time making music. 😅😂.. nice Baird though!
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
this is true it does take a lot of time to set up once set up its pretty practical tho!
@ManCalledMif
18 күн бұрын
Overkill? I say organised
@Hysteric_Subjects
18 күн бұрын
Omg I’m going through this crisis rn
@Hysteric_Subjects
18 күн бұрын
Funny I was looking at the DF Audio mini for other things but now it’s all clear - get one for my pedal pile
@Hysteric_Subjects
18 күн бұрын
Thanks Bo. You always come through and the timing of your topics is Swedish chef’s kisses
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
As the video shows: it will be time consuming setting it all up But once set up, the patchbay will make everything so much more fun!
@adeevision1297
18 күн бұрын
Or you can put them all in a mod dwarf and have one box with multiple pedal boards and synths !
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
That's great so long as you're signed up for relatively and subjectively generic effects categories. There's nothing wrong with wanting to throw some chorus and delay on an instrument and calling it a day. But that's not why most of us are here.
@adeevision1297
17 күн бұрын
@@pjforde1978 you obviously haven't looked at the effects or the box!
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
@@adeevision1297I haven’t owned one, but I’ve read through the website and watched some videos. I think that you’re hand-waving away the fact that I can’t use that box to get a virtual LVX or Nightsky, and even if I could, the controls on board don’t come close to replicating the user experience of having the control layouts of each pedal, which ignores both the fact that that UX has been designed or might be intended to be performed - knobs manipulated during a song. I’ve got NOTHING against multi effects, but I do think you have a fundamental lack of understanding as to why and how we use pedals. It’s likely very different from you. And that’s okay!
@adeevision1297
17 күн бұрын
@@pjforde1978 I have plenty of understanding thanks! And yes you can use the knobs to change values!
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
@@adeevision1297 you can use all three knobs to control values, you mean. Except that the majority of the pedals (plural) we're using have 6+ knobs. Let us know when you catch up.
@hannibalactor1287
18 күн бұрын
Overkill indeed 🤯
@Hysteric_Subjects
18 күн бұрын
No such thing if yer addicted to pedals lolol
@hannibalactor1287
18 күн бұрын
@@Hysteric_Subjects well...that's probably right 😅
@gesucristo8511
18 күн бұрын
Dio can vez
@ralphashford9022
18 күн бұрын
Ummm...the idea of a pedal board is to conventiently arrange pedals in a signal chain, comprised of the pedals/effects your music requires. A patch bay seems counter-intuitive and in this case, takes up too much real estate. Why not just get a multi-effects processor and use a midi foot controller?
@BoBeats
18 күн бұрын
The video should explain in detail why But in case it doesnt suffice: One chain is inflexible Synth setups are basically music production setups and not one instrument setups like a typical guitar pedalboard setup Therefor having the ability to quickly patch things is important and also to set up multiple routings at the same time
@infn8loopmusic
18 күн бұрын
Can't answer for OP here but In my case I got the chroma console and added it to my mixer as a send/return for that purpose but... In some cases you need multiple send returns and want separate parallel FX processing. For instance my groove box goes into my board and our to a limiter and back in and then I boost the bass on that channel. Then I also run that signal out to a separate channel where I pull the bass out and run it into the chroma console and so I can process the non bass and mix it in. It's all about the flexibility of routing in and out of the mixer.
@ancientmartianunderground
18 күн бұрын
Personally I agree with you... but I must admit that being able to isolate pedals can shorten the chain and perhaps the signal is stronger
@Lorneplumber
18 күн бұрын
@@BoBeatsto be fair things have moved on from in/out of earlier processor. I had iterations of lots of expensive pedals, switchers, patch bays For sheer flexibility that eclipse what you are doing the helix floor is so difficult to beat Happy to show you how I’m incorporating synths, guitars, vocals through 1 helix with stereo/mono independent fx flows. All recallable and infinitely flexible People often reproduce say the cosmos on helix and upload for others At this point with free updates it’s a no brainer
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
While some clearly see "conveniently arrange pedals in a chain" as a pro, lots of us see this as creatively restrictive. There's lots of reasons why you might want to mess with your order of operations (reverb/vibrato or reverb/distortion for examples) and you'll see both pedals which allow you to flip that order internally and pedal boards which have multiple copies of the same pedal, which is a kind of insanity I have a lot of empathy for. Patch bays and matrix mixers are both incredibly limiting for people who want all of the flexibility.
@simia85
18 күн бұрын
Guitarist's been doing this for decades and Bo's over here acting like he invented the wheel lol
@CelticStone
17 күн бұрын
flexing how much gear you own, without telling people how much gear you own
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
yeah, it's so crazy that a gear reviewer has a lot of gear
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
gear reviewers? Go to any synth group and post ”show me your setup please”
@pjforde1978
17 күн бұрын
@@BoBeats ignore the haters!
@BoBeats
17 күн бұрын
@@pjforde1978 i try my best, thanks for the reminder
@SantiagoGT15
17 күн бұрын
Nobody needs this amount of pedals
@BubbaSatori
17 күн бұрын
How do you know that?
@SantiagoGT15
17 күн бұрын
@@BubbaSatori I’m highly resistant to consumerism
@CtDawG77
17 күн бұрын
6:48 Cool looking but I hate spending hundreds on cables that are used for one purpose only. Keep looking at upgrading to one of the Cioks isolated power supplies but it is $250. If I was going to spend $250, I would rather spend that much coin in another Synth not a power bank or cables.
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