5970: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME?!" 3DMark: "WHO EVEN ARE YOU?!"
@therealnoodledog6660
3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@jerrypowell6940
3 жыл бұрын
I wish, that was one of my old "Burn-in" stress test for a workday on a graphics workstation in 12/1999 I think that's when they released 3dmark 2000. Good times.
@BLKBRDSR71
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@cadetsparklez3300
2 жыл бұрын
3dmark existed b4 lol
@xemphios
3 жыл бұрын
The tail end of that era was when I was just getting into PC gaming and learning about all the hardware, wanting to build my own PC, and finding people like you on KZitem to learn from. The nastalgia hit hard talking about all the old hardware from back then and remembering piecing together builds I wanted and watching benchmarks and reviews that you put out back then. Maybe some day we will have fun stuff coming from competition again in the PC hardware market.
@white_mage
3 жыл бұрын
i've been into computers since before this card released, but pc gaming in my country didn't take off until like 2010 onwards, so i didn't know that was a thing. in 2015 i got my first REAL computer (real = not an old potato) and people in school was like "what does it run?" and i had to tell them it had the intel graphics. then i became the idiot who thought that was cool lmao. it had a pentium g3250 (interestingly enough, my parents paid for an i3 4130 which was about 30% more expensive for some reason. i didn't tell them because they made me go pick it up to the store and walk back home with it, which was a bit too far away for such task. my arms hurt so much i could barely grab a glass of water for a week, so i didn't tell them and i've been stuck with it until last year. i regret the decision so much today.), 4gb of 1333mhz ddr3 (later upgraded to 2x4 1400mhz. then the gigabyte h81m-h motherboard died. bought another one; same story. bought an asus h81m-a; its still going. won't buy gigabyte again.) 500gb 5400rpm WB blue which would fail every now and then, causing blue screens (it would turn off for no reason. im still using it today for storage and every time i try to access it, it "turns on" but it isn't off.), cheap ass case that would bend if you poke it too hard with your pinkie finger (no joke). in 2018, i later added an ati sapphire 5670 512mb gddr5 i bought from a friend for next to nothing. he bought it in 2010 and he had just bought a brand new 1050ti. this 5670 performed about the same as the intel graphics but had a ton more bandwidth (64gb vs 22.4gb) and thats what made the difference. i overclocked it and that gave me about extra 10fps in most games. i played the whole campaing of doom 2016 on it at 25fps avg. now i have a ryzen 2200g with the vega 8 overclocked at 1500mhz and 2x8 2400mhz cl19 ram overclocked to 3000mhz cl21 with just 1.24v and runs escape from tarkov at 1280x1024 25 - 50fps. slowly drops below 20 during gun fights but i prepher the stealthy approach anyways so fps doesn't matter too much :v
@derealized797
3 жыл бұрын
I've been using computers since the 80s. In the 90s, in high school was around the time i learned about building them. But i didn't have the money to really build from scratch my very own until around 2004. And i didn't have KZitem or anyone to guide me back then. But it came out good. I spent around $1,800 on it. Can barely remember what was in it now, although i loved ATI back then, and i had a $400 "All in Wonder" version, which allowed me to do pretty much anything with that PC. I also gave it RGB back then. But it was different from how it is now, i had these solid tubes that lit up, and only one color. Can't even find them now.
@white_mage
3 жыл бұрын
@@derealized797 those are cold cathode tubes. its the only kind of illumination i would like to add to my pc but they just don't sell anymore.
@derealized797
3 жыл бұрын
@@white_mage i looked for them and couldn't find them anywhere. Barely even information about them now almost like they're just sort of obsolete and forgotten. Mine broke eventually. I guess after a while they wear out and that's it. They were cool though while they lasted.
@white_mage
3 жыл бұрын
@@derealized797 cold cathode tubes i think don't last for long. i got to know them through retro hardware's channel. he makes all kind of builds using old hardware. mostly from the 2000's.
@DavidRomonti
3 жыл бұрын
I love when jay goes back to older gpu’s hopefully we can see more content like this 👍
@absolarix
3 жыл бұрын
I like it too. I just starting learning about all this stuff when the 900 series was out in full swing, so I have no idea about any of the older stuff. Videos like this help give me an idea of how things progressed.
@DLxDaemon
3 жыл бұрын
@7:30 it's like "I think I can... I think I can..." 🤣
@thequietplayer3691
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I also had an HD 5970. That was such a powerful video card, but I had so many issues with Crossfire that I had to use single-GPU mode for a lot of games.
@canderson7776
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it sucked, massive potential but never saw good enough fruition. Used to own two HD5850's in CF.
@CakePrincessCelestia
3 жыл бұрын
Just looked up the price and saw an article saying it was "exorbitantly expensive" - at a mere 560 Euros. Try getting a current or last gen card for that today. Good luck.
@Sol_Divisive
3 жыл бұрын
I remember buying (2) EVGA 9800 GX2's back when they came out lol
@TimothyStovall108
3 жыл бұрын
We need more "Group B Rally" type engineering
@MrHowardMoon
3 жыл бұрын
I was 16 when this card came out and I remember my friends and I all talking about how much of a "game changer" it was lol :D
@GhostSenshi
3 жыл бұрын
I miss those days too bro and I agree with how those days felt
@Ender5529
3 жыл бұрын
I had a sapphire one of those :), was my first pc build, paired with a i7-920. Ran LOTRO nice (but had to disable the second core because of reasons). Think I still got the card somewhere attached to a very heavy copper water block. Another funny thing with regular hardware back then, triple channel ram thought that was interesting for non server gear.
@TheTekknician
3 жыл бұрын
I remember buying an X850 Pro and I think my mouth didn't close from amazement for 3 months in a row.
@richardstokes276
3 жыл бұрын
Just did a quick check and the going rate for one of these, if you can find one in stock, is £35!!!
@williamchestnut9668
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, I’ve got an Nvidia 7800GTX from an old dell computer I had. I just clean out a bunch of computer parts I had laying around.
@briand01
3 жыл бұрын
HI Jay I have two HD 7990's both have line issues screen turns into a tartan kilt type of problem. also have an XFX Radeon 6990 antillies works fine..
@Jeff13mer
3 жыл бұрын
Aww man. I just got rid of my old dual xfx 8800 alpha dogs form 2000-something. Oooo, I'm getting old.
@Slamraptor
3 жыл бұрын
I loved my 8800 GTX, what a beast.
@EatingPubes
3 жыл бұрын
I want to see a HD7990. That thing was top of the chain in the old days for me. R9 295x2 was cool but way over the top.
@AznStylezYT
3 жыл бұрын
I wanted this card so bad back in the day
@motoray69
3 жыл бұрын
same
@NemouseJurado
3 жыл бұрын
I still do... but no way my PSU can support 294 Watt GPU! LOL
@WarsunGames
3 жыл бұрын
Right now i would like to see more benchmark test. I want to see what it can actually do in Doom Eternal, Skyrim special Edition, and Warframe (Because its perfectly optimized).
@prostreetcamaro
3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@Wolfeman2000
3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@deadspeedv
3 жыл бұрын
"If you had this you were super elite". I actually found the receipt for my HD5970. It was only $US759 in Feb 2010 ($952 in 2021 money). It was the RTX3090 of its time. A RTX3090 today costs like $US2500-3000. The bleeding edge today is significantly more out of reach for most people than 2010.
@flippercomet5002
3 жыл бұрын
You mean an rtx 3090?
@deadspeedv
3 жыл бұрын
@@flippercomet5002 fixed
@Celme44
2 жыл бұрын
Im still using good old sapphire 6870 founders edition.. it's LONG TAKES TOO MUCH POWER AND STİLL GİVES ME WHAT I WANT
@Skyline33_
2 жыл бұрын
@@Celme44 I have 2 XFX 6870s in a drawer with the crossfire cable and they still work pretty well
@4gbmeans4gb61
2 жыл бұрын
I had this card with the new i7-980x cpu that came out. They both came in an Alienware system lol. VERY over priced but was so BEAST. Mine at least OC to 850 on the core and +1000 on memory. Thing was like a jet engine going and it heated ur room like a real heater lol. But i look at it this way, cards now maybe 1500 for a 3090 ti, but its 20 TIMES FASTER> with out using 20x the wattage or price.
@xJokerzWild
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i think the main issue with the 'scoring' is that, back when this card was relevant, DX11 was the 'new' thing, and everyone was still on DX10 mostly. If the Benchmark tests used DX10 instead of DX11, i think it may be a slightly different story.
@AlfaPro1337
3 жыл бұрын
DX10 was shortlived, since few uses Windows Vista, either enthusiast, or they managed to get their system stable.
@skurasch
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfaPro1337 he's right though. I was gaming back when this card was new. Dx11 was an afterthought and it had terrible tessellation performance. Running any game in dx9 or 10 and it was capable of truly ludicrous performance. This thing could max out crysis 1 and 2 at 1080p and lock to 60 FPS. It was also capable of a technology they called eyefinity which allowed triple monitors to be run as a single monitor. In eyefinity it could max out left 4 dead at 60 FPS at a resolution of literally 75% of 4k. This thing was a true monster and this video didn't do it justice. Really wish they had done research before making it smh.
@ArtemisKitty
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlfaPro1337 Maybe consider rewording that as "Vista worked fine for me" possibly? The fact is that, statistically, loads and loads of research shows that, overall, most end-users hated Vista for one reason or another. Programmers/coders hated it because it broke our code, gamers hated it because it made our games suddenly drop to 40% of their former FPS, office IT departments hated it because it crashed way, WAY more often, requiring a lot more repair/service tickets... I could go on. My point being that, were you lucky enough to find an OS that worked perfectly well for you, on your hardware, in your use-case, that does not automatically mean your experience is the norm, or even common. You may have just been exceptionally lucky. For me? Well, ditched it and went back to Win2K server, then 2006 server - yes, even for gaming, it would outperform Vista on *my* particular hardware setup. (This does not mean you would have had the same results.) From there it was straight to Win7, and I was happy for a while, but... I digress. So yeah, my personal "OS used for PC gaming" history? Dos 3.1 -> MSDos 6.2 -> Windows 3.11 - Windows 95 -> Win98 -> Windows 2000 -> XP/Server2006 (had 2 PC sets due to work for a few years here, but my gaming one was the NTFS server rig, while our employees used laptops that had XP Pro (I also had a VM set up just for gaming that would assign 10 Xeon cores and 24GB RAM to it)) -> Windows 7 -> Windows 10/11/multiple Linux distros/OMG just let me have one OS that does everything again! >.< Note: I did TRY all the intermediary OS versions from Microsoft, as well as Apple and other companies, partly due to my work, and partly to try to get a better gaming experience. I tried Vista. I even tried really hard to get it working. Several of my relatives had me work on their PCs, of course, and I can't even count the # of headaches Vista caused us, as a whole. Simple things no longer working due to driver conflicts that would magically appear after an automatic update, disabling my elderly grandmother's PC thousands of KM away, and so on. (It was bad enough that I installed an IPKVM system for her and replaced her desktop with a Dell business model that had DRAC, just so I could repair/reboot it remotely.) So anyway, THAT was my experience with Windows Vista. But... that's just one experience, as is yours, ne? Edit: Note: as there may be a bit of confusion with the comment of "going back to win2k server" - I was also running NTFS server on my laptop, as the main rack servers were already running 2ksvr at the time. I used my laptop to test new operating systems, as it was a model that offered lots of almost ring-level diagnostics and had a docking bay where the CD/DVD drive usually is, allowing me to use a 2nd HDD for testing purposes, isolating the important stuff completely on its own drive for safety. Dual-boot setup. That's where I first tested Vista, but just like XP, in my case? W2K was still faster/higher performance for games. Less OS overhead eating RAM. (Note: my rack server that I would use for games on the VM? That's half the power. It only had 20 cores total and 48GB RAM, so I was being greedy for gaming, yes. I do acknowledge that, along with the.... foolishness of wasting half the power of a rack mount server for games, but... ahh well. It DID let me max out settings so everything looked pretty... well as good as it could with games at the time, of course. But I was also gaming on a laptop that had a Quadro card in it FFS... But that's what it comes down to, doesn't it? You work with what you've got, then perhaps play around with a few different options (new OS, for example), and see how you can get the best experience for YOU personally out of your hardware, right?)
@AlfaPro1337
3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtemisKitty Dude, I literally had almost the worst set-up. P4 (478), 7600 and 2 gigs. Once again, it all boils down to the completely rework architecture underneath Vista, which is also in 7 and newer. Even literally, I had to use my friend's Acer Vista PC (it had all AMD, previously AMD-ATI) back in mid of 2007, which continued until 2010. It was fine, no crashes nor performance hit. He even had Aero on all the time, whereas, for me, I had to revert back to Standard, because of my 7600. I never had issues with upgrading, since 9x era, only from 9x to XP had issues. That's why, I always cleaned installed instead of upgrade. Moral of the story, I never had the best hardware, I had a mediocre or dead end hardware.
@Nevict
3 жыл бұрын
Not bad for an old card! It shows how sturdy they used to make them. Also, congratulations to Rocket League's programmers for being so good at their job.
@GreatYamatanoOrochi
3 жыл бұрын
Afaik this was back in the day where GPUs just ran at 100% always, so they had to make them last long. Nowadays they just regulate themselves to operate based on workload, which is pretty cool, of course.
@ArtemisKitty
3 жыл бұрын
Granted, I agree with you that it was, but... does this test REALLY show that? TAKE THE NEW RADEON OUT! The instant I saw crossfire pop up, I knew the entire test results were ruined from that point on. It is NOT an accurate representation whatsoever of the experience you'd get with that 14 year old card when you ALSO tie it in to be assisted by a new model from a current line. That skews results SO FAR that it.... I don't see the point of the video, TBH. Was it to see if you could combine/crossfire an old card and a new one from the Radeon line? I mean... I guess at that point maybe it's a success? But beyond that... definitely not. This is NOT what you and I would get if we reproduced the experiment, but first removed the newer GPU. Or rather failed to install it alongside the older ATI Radeon in the first place, so no drivers would ever even detect it on that OS installation for testing purposes.
@bdl555
2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtemisKitty The ati is not crossfired with the amd radeon. There are two cores on the ati that are crossfired to each other. In essence the ati is two gpus on one pcb.
@thelespauldude3283
3 жыл бұрын
I miss when 5 year old GPU was less than MSRP of a 3060
@TNoStone
3 жыл бұрын
I could sell my gpu right now for what i built my entire computer for
@thelespauldude3283
3 жыл бұрын
@@TNoStone same lmao😂
@dcard228
3 жыл бұрын
I found a 1650 super for $300 and I leaped on it
@AliceC993
3 жыл бұрын
I bought an EVGA 1050 Ti SSC right as they launched in Dec. 2016 for $150... I could sell that card, 5 years later, on eBay and break even
@OmniscientlyMe
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my 7 y/o discrete GPU died a month ago and it would literally costs double to replace it with something barely better. Fortunately, I got a PS5, so I'm console gaming for now and the PC is mostly usable with the on-board GPU. The additional strain on the market from crypto is just one of the reasons I wish governments would clamp down on that digital ponzi scheme.
@ashey12000
3 жыл бұрын
I remember running quad sli with 2x 7950gx2 what a beast of a machine that was for the time
@MandoMike
3 жыл бұрын
I've built a couple arcade machines over the last 10-15 years, I used GPUs with S-Video ports so I could connect them to a regular CRT TV for that realism of arcade cabinets with a 4:3 monitor, LED TVs just don't have the same feel.
@rotor13
3 жыл бұрын
@Gainstrup Then upgrade to a 240hz display
@DigitalJedi
3 жыл бұрын
@Gainstrup I'm pretty sure we're pushing into the 500hz territory with ultra-fast panels right now. You can get up to 300 or 360hz fairly regularly in a more expensive gaming monitor or laptop.
@darthwiizius
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@darthwiizius
3 жыл бұрын
LCDs are 1000th of the speed of plasmas let alone CRTs. Before you idiots talk about milliseconds milliseconds are an eternity in electronics, you can't get beyond the basic speed of a screen by circuit refinement.
@darthwiizius
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I didn't mean you, I was talking to others.
@DigitalJedi
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this thing is managing to even play Rocket League at 1080p at all is very impressive. Well done ATI chaps. I really wish dual GPU cards were still a thing. It's just so cool to me to have these little compute clusters inside a regular PC.
@sebaschan-uwu
3 жыл бұрын
Rocket league is very easy to run. I had a 6870 and it was very good in rocket league and decent in valorant/csgo. And that was with the 1 gb version of the card. I bought that card secondhand for like 50 bucks
@ThePopeofPoland1
3 жыл бұрын
i would love to see a dual 3090 just for the lulz. but would be a fun option to see like a dual 3060 card as well.
@CakePrincessCelestia
3 жыл бұрын
Rocket League runs on like half a toaster... :D
@DigitalJedi
3 жыл бұрын
@@CakePrincessCelestia It does and that's what I love about it. I'm more impressed this card had support for a fairly modern directX version.
@DigitalJedi
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePopeofPoland1 I'm picturing a penta-slot dual 3090 or it getting its own 360mm rad.
@TheCrazyCanuck420
3 жыл бұрын
I had two of those cards driving three 30" monitors for a total resolution of 7680x1600. Good times.
@Neojhun
3 жыл бұрын
You mad man. I only had a single 30" NEC 1600p monitor and an ancient LG 4:3 LCD as an auxiliary screen. That was being driven by a single Radeon HD6850. It was on the cusp fluid and usable for stuff like 3D Topographic Maps and CAD. I would not even attempt gaming at that resolution. LOL 7680px wide.
@TheCrazyCanuck420
3 жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun Pretty sure those old HP displays were NEC panels back in the day. Then I thought AA? I don't need no stinking AA at 7680x1600 which made the framerates doable. I remember when AMD (ATI) came out with ultra wide screen resolutions and they pioneered that short lived thing of buying big monitors and praying the game can be displayed before hitting bottlenecks.
@TheCrazyCanuck420
3 жыл бұрын
but i do remember early 90s shit finding it's way into my late 90s plans before the originators took full control over everything, if that didn't happen here let me know and I'll fix that :)
@TheCrazyCanuck420
3 жыл бұрын
hell.... Jay was probably ripping poor solderers apart early on and that's probably who he's targeting right now :)
@MathiasWesterlund
3 жыл бұрын
I ran the previous gen of it :D The 4870X2 and two of those, built it in 2008 when the card was brand new. Then when empire total war was released i remember the awe my friends had at the settings i could play it :P, same with eve online. I could partake in large fleet battles and not reduce settings!!
@aaronmcneal1698
3 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is, that was my dream graphic card back when that thing launched. And to see how far we've come in just over a decade amazes me
@4wdguydrivesby
3 жыл бұрын
I remember my best mate building a pc with two of these; I think he bought them online from the US (we're in AUS). It ran Far-Cry pretty sweet, and Crysis, and it also doubled as a very effective space heater.
@rfouR_4
3 жыл бұрын
I ended up getting two HD5870s instead of waiting on the HD5970 because more OC headroom that way and got a sweet open box deal at the time for the second card. Got both cards to 1GHz core clocks and it absolutely ripped at the time considering these HD5970s came at 750Mhz core clocks, that's a 33% increase in comparison. 😅 At that time I was playing Crisis Warhead at 2560x1600 with Max settings and 4x MSAA at over 60FPS. Was so insane at the time.
@ieatchickens
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, a bot copied your comment
@Rex-tt1vk
2 жыл бұрын
I also ran a 5970 at 1GHz in my first PC, ran like a champ for me but I'v heard about people heaving problems with VRM temps on stock cooler, and it caused whole card to throttle
@rfouR_4
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rex-tt1vk Yeah I think having two 5870s helped mitigate that issue, having the split dedicated VRM and splitting the cooling demands between two cards and their coolers and fans helps. Less heat density and all. Also I think benchmarks at the time showed how the PCI-E limitations at the time from having to run the GPUs on x8 essentially did have a small impact too. I think at the time my board had dual x16 PCI-E slots so that was lit. With the stock coolers at 100% fan speed I think GPUs ran in the 60s Celsius and VRMs were healthy temps too.
@Graphics_Card
3 жыл бұрын
Even though I like the new gpu boxes, and gpu designs, it doesn’t change the fact that I still miss basically everything about the old gpu designs and boxes.
@Biker_Gremling
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a GTX 680 Lightning back in the day. The box for it was gionormus with a huge flap full of cool graphs with specs.
@dankone3
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are missing the point it’s not just the design and look it’s about the fact that the CONCEPTS were also very different. They won’t try that shit now because it’s a lot safer and more profitable to keep it safe using an easy already winning formula instead of innovating so fuckin stupid
@YOEL_44
3 жыл бұрын
I was a humble second hand laptop kid until relatively recently, but my first bought GPU was a GTX 660 Windforce OC, a mid level card that had a full metal enclosure (altho no backplate) these days even the highest tier cards come built in rattly plastics, I get that it costs and weights less, but the cuality feel, sturdiness and even recyclability is lost.
@almightysosa8395
3 жыл бұрын
Jay: 2009 was 12 years ago Me: Realizing I haven't done anything since Highschool...
@therealnoodledog6660
3 жыл бұрын
Me realizing this was my coolest buy at 12 years ago
@markm0000
3 жыл бұрын
You miss all the opportunities you don’t take. Get out there and do something.
@sulfuricanaljuice3994
3 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 IM GONNA DO SOME DRUGS
@verneshodzic6665
3 жыл бұрын
Jay: I like to collect old cards. I've got 580's, 680's... Me: Cries in Nvidia 7300 GS daily.
@Kevinb1821
3 жыл бұрын
I remember this one of Linus’s first graphics card reviews ever on his channel
@casedistorted
3 жыл бұрын
I miss when Space Pinball existed as a showcase for buying Windows.
@nullerror4049
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure its coming back with win11. If u wanna switch to that garbo.
@FleaOnMyWiener
3 жыл бұрын
@@nullerror4049 why do you say it's garbo?
@nullerror4049
3 жыл бұрын
@@FleaOnMyWiener i just dont like windows. Thought it was obvious, without saying anything else and forcing my opinion on others. Also from what i heard. Many people shit on win11 and the upgraded bloat they install with it. Also aparently some feature that cuts gaming performance by a fourth. Altho its still beta so i doubt that will stay
@nullerror4049
3 жыл бұрын
@RO been on linux for a year and a half. No blue screens. No weird internet usage, triple the bit rate in obs with nvfbc patch, everything just works. And only game for my library that i find that under preforms is hitman 2016. Wich im not too suprised about. Legitly have to buy each mision for like 7 bucks. And ive tested over a hundred of my games. Ive seen a big increase in settings, fps and 1% lows for games like rotr far cry 5 and subnautica (the ones on top of my head). And it just gets better when steam proton gets updated. Linux is great. But i dont want it to become mainstream. Cuz then we will have another shitfest like windows or mac on our handa
@arnox4554
3 жыл бұрын
@@FleaOnMyWiener TPM requirement. Little innovation. More restrictions. More ads... Like seriously. Why should I use Windows 11 over 10 or even fucking 7 besides driver support? Microsoft has stagnated so bad and I think it's really starting to cut into that momentum they've had for so long. And with the Steam Dick coming out, Linux desktop marketshare is gonna start rising. Not sure how much, but it will increase.
@3draven
3 жыл бұрын
I've got an nvidia GTX 280 that still runs well after 10 years of use. Used to have 2 in sli but one started artifacting after the 11 year mark
@TrinityRDS1
3 жыл бұрын
I have two of these in quad crossfire with a Phenom 1090T on a 890FX Crosshair, I love to collect parts I could only dream of when I got into PC building
@reik019
3 жыл бұрын
Similar story here. I built my ''Dream Godavari rig'' this year with an AMD A10 7870K overclocked to 4.4GHz, 16GBs of Kingston HyperX DDR3 at 1866MHz, dual Radeon R7 250 2GB cards, and a GIGABYTE G1 Sniper A88X, it's safe to say that it was a top of the line FM2+ PC. Some vulkan games I play on it do like to scale on the three GPUs (The two dedicated and the integrated one), so the integrated graphics are enabled, while the pair of dedicated cards are always on CrossFireX, and sometimes I run the IGD alongside one of the cards in dual graphics, but it's a bummer that I cant run all three of them at the same time, that would be some stupidly high uplift from pretty midrange components of the era.
@MetalZoned
3 жыл бұрын
This was also an era when AIB cards had swords, fantasy characters, dragons, flames, and all sorts of other ridiculously awesome graphics instead of trying to be sleek and modern.
@Drek492
2 жыл бұрын
The boxes art for GPUs were fucking wild
@alexzhu1
2 жыл бұрын
i remember that!! so many anime characters, aliens...nvidia CORPORATE put mermaids on their cards and ATI had Ruby the female action hero as well
@MetalZoned
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexzhu1 it was crazy 🤣🤣
@darrianweathington1923
3 жыл бұрын
"Like group b rally" Wow Phil, stop their already dead...
@icecoldkv8005
3 жыл бұрын
Last Year's 31 days of Techmas was the best. I love when Jay posts everyday
@garbuckle3000
3 жыл бұрын
How I miss ATI. The coolest card I ever owned was the All In Wonder. Gaming, capture, and TV tuner all in one. Man, those were the days
@markm0000
3 жыл бұрын
Ow yeah dude those tv tuner GPU’s were nice. They made ripping movies and recording tv shows and gameplay so much easier.
@kwizzeh
3 жыл бұрын
My first GPU purchase was a 9800Pro AIW card (to replace a TNT2) and it was worth even penny. Being able to route my Dreamcast and PS2 to display on my PC was mad fire in 2001 lol The card still works but it needs a replacement fan.
@NFreund
3 жыл бұрын
"today's world is just... Boring" man, that hits way too close - and not just in computer hardware. The thing is, even with climate change and all the issues we have besides that, it doesn't have to be the boring. I'm a car guy as much as Jay is (granted, with less funds and therefore way less track time), EVs are just boring. Yes, a Model S Plaid is bonkers fast, but that isn't the point. The sad thing, with E-Fuels it doesn't have to be, but apparently every auto maker goes bottom up. Same as Hardware makers... Yes, bulldozer was shit. But it was "balls to the walls" what that architecture was capable of. Intel somewhat does it, but Intel isn't necessarily what I'd call "exciting". Every single decision a company makes nowadays is calculated to the last digit behind the comma. Many things are "controlled" by algorithms and so on. When was the last time, a game REALLY gripped you with it's story? Maybe I'm just melancholic, but it all feels just sad.
@Shipprofile08
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I totally get what your saying! I work for a simple groccery store and it seems like all the higher ups have forgoten what its like to have fun! It's quite sad actually! Also, if your looking for a great story driven game, I would highly recommend Tales of Arise! It came out last month and it blew me away on how much detail they put into everything! From the characters, to the gameplay, to the story, its a must buy RPG if your into that stuff!
@DJdoppIer
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, despite being epic letdowns, Bulldozer and Piledriver still hold the world records for the highest CPU overclocking ever (I think it was like 8.9GHz or something). They could take a serious beating if nothing else.
@usefulidiot21
2 жыл бұрын
I love cars too, and I get what you're saying. It's obvious that most vehicles made today are trying to be every thing for everyone, so while they're at least decent at a lot of things, they're not really great at anything. And that lack of just doing one or two things really great makes them all kind of blend in and be boring. Nobody wants to take risks and be different anymore, because it's all about maximizing profits the safe way. There are some niche vehicles left in the market and I think they're awesome, even if they're not what I'd personally buy. And I agree that electric vehicles can be ridiculously fast, in a straight line mostly, but that doesn't really do it for me. I'd rather have something lighter that's more nimble and can change direction and corner better. But, I realize I'm in the minority in that thinking here in America, where everyone seems to just want the biggest vehicle that goes the fastest in a straight line. The way some things are changing really bums me out.
@renegadethesandwing02050
3 жыл бұрын
"Nick get the fire extinguisher" I want to see a card die so hard during a benchmark that it actually catches on fire, that would also make for a very high view count video lol
@gunnar6674
3 жыл бұрын
Amazon Games and Gigabyte: "Allow us to introduce ourselves."
@renegadethesandwing02050
3 жыл бұрын
@@gunnar6674 LMAO yeah
@Dipa_OC
3 жыл бұрын
then just get a 590 and just overvolt it :)
@renegadethesandwing02050
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dipa_OC XD that would work
@spedepasanen7229
3 жыл бұрын
just launch New World
@TheGameBench
3 жыл бұрын
This is such a stooopid comparison... I enjoyed every minute of it.
@LinkAlmeida
3 жыл бұрын
Found one of those in the trash two months ago, fully cleaned it up, tested it and it's working like a charm 😝 a free graphics card in 2021... a rare commodity lol
@johnboleyjr.1698
3 жыл бұрын
This is truly a great video. ATI was amazing. All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500, with 64MB DDR memory, was my card. I loved that thing.
@ShadeAssault
3 жыл бұрын
I've got one of those sitting on my desk right now. I collect dual GPU cards as a hobby. My main still runs an R9 295x2 and my backup PC runs an HD7990. Sadly half of the performance is missing now-a-days since CFX and SLI are deader than the Dodo.
@CreeperOnYourHouse
3 жыл бұрын
If only CrossfireX was supported, to force a crossfire profile on the games that don't have it. Crossfire is the normal version, which requires a profile.
@grassnake7able
3 жыл бұрын
I too, happen to have an R9 295x2 and a (broken to all my knowledge) HD 7990. Genuine sadness when I had to upgrade to a GPU that was not a dual-chip.
@micas290
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO, cant stop laughing ahahahahah Jay: Starts overcloking Phill: You´re gonna frickin murder this thing before we run tests Simply hilarious
@grenzviel4480
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that card had Nvidia so beat at the time. Didn't think it was that bad. I was but a young'un at this time so I couldn't really understand what the specs meant. And the computer we had only had 128mb of vram, in which the GPU eventually failed, so my parents got a 64mb vram card instead. Those were some rough times.
@igameidoresearchtoo6511
3 жыл бұрын
I can relate, my old old PC had a super low end card in it, (forgot which one exactly), then it started to fail and they decided to buy an OLDER CARD! (5870), yes kind of high end but considering I had a 7870 originally I got quite the downgrade.
@What-he5pr
3 жыл бұрын
Those X2 or duo cards that they sometimes make are cool as heck.
@mruczyslaw50
3 жыл бұрын
I was using GTX 690, the last nvidia card that had 2 GPUs (besides titan z) and the experience was... Not ideal. Only 2GB VRAM per GPU for such a huge power at the time was such a bottleneck that gaming with higher settings on this thing was problematic not long after the card launched. I sold the card as the 700 series geforce series arrived and I bought the theoretically not faster but in practice much better GTX 780. The issues with 690 were the same as with all dual GPU setups, low compatibility and poor performance scaling with 2 GPUs in SLI over 1, hitting sometimes over 85°C at extremely loud max fan speed and occassionally throttling in hotter days because for some reason nvidia designed the reference cooler with just one fan in the center of the card, obviously no headroom for overclocking, driver crashes and sometimes screen tearing in SLI made some games unplayable unless you disabled SLI or locked framerate to 30 or so which on this card doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's still more efficient than buying two GTX 680 and then using SLI bridge, but I can't say it was a good product. All of these problems makes me not regret that there are no new dual GPUs these days.
@JokingChickenn
3 жыл бұрын
Jay, can I just say that I love the “31 days of Jaytober” concept, you seem like your having fun with it too👍🏼 maybe do this every year? Pritty please
@Greshgore
3 жыл бұрын
I miss when I didn't have to rely on one-in-a-million giveaways from Tech KZitemrs to get the parts I want, or even parts that would be a respectable upgrade.
@PulsarTECH
3 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia, it feels great to see how the cards were working back then and compare them to nowadays. As a matter of fact, I've still got an old HIS HD 5770 Turbo in one of my old PCs, that was a great mid range card more than 10 years ago.
@AG007
3 жыл бұрын
Still using my HD 5770 with a Ryzen 7 5800X 🤣
@aryanjha8841
3 жыл бұрын
My old iMac with a hd 5670 and i3 550 still doin good and I've been daily driving it for the last year and a half
@videosbymathew
3 жыл бұрын
I still have my Voodoo 1 that could barely play EverQuest 1 from 1999. Nostalgia!
@markm0000
3 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend building a “ultimate upgrade” old system that you wished you had back in the day. It might be the last chance to find these vintage parts in good condition at a reasonable price. I have a Pentium 3 Tualatin-S build with all the best parts and custom mods from 1998~2004. I have a virtual machine copy of my setup but the actual hardware with lights, sounds, switches, and smells can never be replicated.
@jasonfisher1496
3 жыл бұрын
How much do miss playing that game that came with it? Hyperblade. I spent a ton of time in that.
@markm0000
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfisher1496 I loved playing RuneScape on it with friends. My second favorite game from back then is Need for Speed Most Wanted. I must have played that game 10 times over with just a old rubber dome keyboard. Still to this day I don’t play PC games with a controller only when I’m using emulators.
@jasonfisher1496
3 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 yeah I played Most Wanted a ton as well. I even had a screenshot featured on the website once.
@Jaw0lf
3 жыл бұрын
This card was so expensive and something I really wanted back in the day. Sli/Crossfire in one card was incredible. It was always exciting to get a new card and then run the latest 3D Mark to see the graphics that were not even in games at the time.
@SaiMorphX
3 жыл бұрын
If they get around to chiplet gpus then they will technically be a lot of gpus on one card.
@SaiMorphX
3 жыл бұрын
@RO if they have a controller on there saying that it's only one GPU but then they have 2 chiplets each chiplet having as much processing power as one normal GPU, then you effectively do have two gpus on one card.
@SaiMorphX
3 жыл бұрын
Then they can also add dedicated cores for physics, video rendering, etc..
@hartsickdisciple
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, those were the days. I never had a card with 2 GPUs on it, but I did have 4 different Nvidia SLI setups. 6600gt's, 7800gt's, 7900gt's, and 8800gt's. I had a 5870, which was pretty awesome.
@alexandrutereify
3 жыл бұрын
My only SLI setup was a twinboard like this. It was a 9800gx2. Basically two 9800gtx GPUs in SLI on the same PCB
@ScrewFearMe
3 жыл бұрын
The 8800GT's were powerful in SLI back then
@hartsickdisciple
3 жыл бұрын
@@ScrewFearMe Yep. Only about 10% slower than SLI 8800GTX.
@ScrewFearMe
3 жыл бұрын
@@hartsickdisciple At that time, I should have gotten the 8800gt's in sli but I got the 9800GTX and it was a letdown compared to what the 8800GTs or the 8800Ultra was capable of.
@calebkey2050
3 жыл бұрын
I miss my old SLI GTX460 setup… One of the cards was an OEM Dell card with only one six pin, and it was literally the best overclocking card I’ve ever owned, even to this day. Good times
@MarktheRude
3 жыл бұрын
Oh geez, that Group B reference went right to the feelings. Well, glad that I got to see Group B Audi Quattro in action at least once
@glasshalffool1782
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay! I have the mars card with two 760's you talked about. I'll trade you for a 3060
@brandongray1059
3 жыл бұрын
Ya I miss when cool things like that were created. I think it was Sapphire at one point that put (3) GPUs on one card. I thought that was awesome. Couldn't afford the card, but I LOVE multi gpu solutions. Up until this past year I ran multi GPU for like 5-7 years straight but finally went down to one GPU because NVidia and game makers are lazy as fk and have dropped support for it.
@LeoKadettTouringCar
3 жыл бұрын
3870x3 "trinity" i remember this 3000 and 4000series double the performance on some games ,today Multi GPU is dead because most of people don't have interest, space on case , powerful PSU or another PCI on MB . Sadly AMD and Nvidia nowadays hate this idea because time past and you want put another gpu and double frame times that's not good for business.
@reik019
3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoKadettTouringCar I would also like to have mGPUs back, man, those builds were absolutely cool and they did work pretty well, when the dev took their time to implement it correctly, just tried out crossfire with a pair of R7 250 2GB cards and man, crysis runs just as good as it did in my single 1650 while costing much, much less money at the same settings, granted, these OEM GPUs run hot as hell but I think I might order a pair of chipset waterblocks and do a custom loop for them and the CPU. I'm going to pick up a pair of Radeon R9 295x2 because I need the compute power of a 2080Ti for workstation purposes and some gaming too without it costing a kidney, I don't mind the power draw, as it isn't that far from what modern GPUs draw anyways and I doubt I will be pushing more than a single GPU at a time on most cases, but when I need the compute power, I will have it.
@diamelo
3 жыл бұрын
Man I remember really wanting to get this card back then but I was a broke college student at the time. I had this silly idea of building a "triple A" build only using AMD, Asus, and ATI parts. Haha
@SHv2
3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the oldest card Jay has versus the absolute best he has.
@legendarygaming8011
3 жыл бұрын
well rumours and leaks suggest heavily that next round of gpus will be mainly dual gpu cpilet designs by both amd and nvidia (after the super refresh ofc)
@louisvaught2495
3 жыл бұрын
Lovelace is, at this point in time, expected to be monolithic.
@fastforward1013
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't AMD developing a chiplet based GPU for RDNA 3?
@The_real_Jes
3 жыл бұрын
"Thats your goal score, not crash?" I'd love to see more modern cards with multi GPU
@markyounanof3818
3 жыл бұрын
I was running a pair of gtx 285's in sli back in 2009 this was when sli and crossfire was a thing. Fun times and in hindsight much cheaper times!
@Hughesburner
3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Radeon Pro duo (fiji 8gb) that I was running 6 months ago. Monster of a card but it had wattman issues, crossfire was a must to justify it and it threw out a lot heat. Made the move back over to Nvidia..
@OmniscientlyMe
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you want old, Jay? I got an nVidia TNT2 card I just found in a box from the first PC I ever bought. It's an AGP card! 20 years old. Like 32MB of RAM. It can play StarCraft and WarCraft 2.
@nuggetpiece
3 жыл бұрын
I remember that POS card, it was like 2 cards crossfired together and came with all the stuttery/frametime bullshit lag that crossfire used to have.
@dcho87
3 жыл бұрын
👌 have never owned another amd gpu since the 5970
@nuggetpiece
3 жыл бұрын
@@dcho87 i dont want to shit on AMD. I had dual 5850s on bf3 launch, but the stutter was unplayable and so i switched to i think a 7970. I still have 1 of those 5850s (its AGP slot) in my neo geo arcade cabinet running mame in 2021. But my main pc has a 3080/3090 depending on my mining rig. The gpu leader changes over the years
@D1craigRob
3 жыл бұрын
It might still exist if people could give AMD a win when they have one rather than just compeletly forgetting they exist almost.
@Terminxman
3 жыл бұрын
Expound
@BloodmoonPyke
3 жыл бұрын
Best card that ever was designed is the Titan XP Star Wars edition, no matter the performance or price, that thing looks so godly😍
@emmata98
3 жыл бұрын
nah. The 3070 Noctua edition^^
@markm0000
3 жыл бұрын
EVGA GTX 295 Red Edition is my all time favorite card. It was so expensive and fast I endlessly dreamed of that card. Now I can probably buy one but all of those games from back then can run on any random new gen graphics card.
@richardzielinski5707
3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of back when we would flash the 6970 bios onto the 6950 and unlock the extra part of the die. AMD would let you do crazy stuff like put a 6970 in crossfire with a 6990. Better days
@greenmonalisa
3 жыл бұрын
The first high end cad I ever bought was a ATI Radeon 9800 XT back in 2003. I remember how excited I was to be able to game at 1024x768!
@randyval2
2 жыл бұрын
ATI was great. I remember back when you could upgrade your mid range 9500, to a top end 9700 with just a bios flash. ATI was king back then
@frankvanrijn964
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when I could still afford the fastest card... lol! Now I had to "settle" for a liquid cooled 3080... ;)
@raq1024
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I ran 2x7970 and damn that was a cool long lasting setup, they were under AMD already I think but still one of the best aging / long lasting cards that still got the job done for me for so long [*]
@nathanpeterson5609
3 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how long GDDR5 was around in use. Pre 2009 up to gtx 16 series
@exaltedb
3 жыл бұрын
5:35 _immediately overclocks it_ _pushes it a tad too far_ _immediately backs off_ Typical Jay
@iFxSnake1
3 жыл бұрын
I had a 9800 gx2 until recently, wish i kept hold of it to send to you. it predates this one by a year or so.
@greenmonalisa
3 жыл бұрын
I remember so drooling over this card back in the day. But at the time there was NO WAY I could afford it.
@teubert2
3 жыл бұрын
Want to feel extra nostalgic? You probably still can't afford it with today's GPU market.
@Avelos
3 жыл бұрын
I always loved ATI/AMD dual chip graphics cards. Occasionally I look for the 5970 on ebay just to be like a cool collector's item. I've got a 7990 and R9 295X2 too. Both terrific cards.
@skorpers
3 жыл бұрын
This card was post AMD, they bought ATi in 2006.
@117TheWolf
3 жыл бұрын
*AMD bought ATI in 2006. They just didn’t immediately overwrite their branding and kept the ATI Radeon name for a few years. *Brought the name back to GPUs with the 5700 XT. Not 6000 series.
@okaforchika
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I was waiting for some type of correction.
@Raiscan
3 жыл бұрын
As a GTX 295 owner I miss my nightmare of a card.
@Keys.Bradley.Racing
3 жыл бұрын
Why not do a dream back in the day build with old hardwear and see how useable it is today??
@SebastiansFacts
3 жыл бұрын
Since you have a whole month of videos to make, why not put Nick to build an oldschool PC? This is the perfect opportunity.
@watersMO
3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have seen (heard?) an acoustic comparison. I still have working AGP Radeons--8500, 9800 Pro, HD 3850; I'm so thankful they never sounded like leafblowers. Of course, I also had a Delta fan on my Duron.
@Cedlad
3 жыл бұрын
at the office i work at, they have one of those. it has a handle at the end of it, it's like you hold it like a bag
@L3v3LLIP
3 жыл бұрын
Your 6800 Firestrike score sucks! Should be more like touching 50k :P
@GarryMah85
3 жыл бұрын
I still have my GTX 295 single PCB version, and it is still my favorite one of all the cards I've owned. I just love how unique these dual GPU cards are, and its probably something we'll never see again. I'm glad I bought it.
@FurkNite
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are hilarious, love the content and subtle humor! 😄 Its really nice seeing this type of "retro" content every once in a while, good memories you know!
@UhhDafuq
3 жыл бұрын
The Mars cards were badass, And the custom packaging they came in was the best part.
@liberatorkramit
3 жыл бұрын
There were few things I wanted as much as one of these cards back then. But my GF at the time wouldnt let me have a computer, because her ex ignored her all the time to play WOW. Apparently the argument "I'm not him" didn't mean shit. Pro Tip: Don't put issues from previous relationships on current prospects. You are just going to ruin it, and whatever they did is not the fault of the new person.
@reik019
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people (Not just girls, this also happens with guys) need to learn that just because you share some traits (Such as tastes, like PC gaming) it doesn't mean that you are an identical copy of the guy/girl they dated and dumped, plus, if she was ignored like that, doesn't that meant that she was basically uninteresting?, sounds like a problem with her and not exactly with the guy, but it depends, as it might have been the case of the guy being a fucking videogame addict, but I cant judge neither as I don't know any of the two. This happens with many other shit too, like, if you say that someone likes anime/manga, they start thinking they are the obsessive kind of anime fans that never get out of their mother's basement and never bathe, when in reality it is rarely like that, but people is going to be people I guess, and by that I mean that they never see the full picture and instead just focus on the negative stuff.
@TheTechAdmin
2 жыл бұрын
I still remember how bad I wanted the 7950 GX2
@Xenoray1
3 жыл бұрын
hey i own that card! i mean the rx 6800 non xt ^^
@WarriorsPhoto
3 жыл бұрын
Good video Jay. I lusted after one of these at one point. (:
@FalloNero
3 жыл бұрын
That glitch of the screen when you've tried to overclock it at 5:34 was a bug with HD6xxx and HD7xxx where, if the resolution was low enough to allow the gpu to drop the memory clock (2d), then when u did something a bit more graphical like moving a window the memory would jump to 3d clocks and glitch. The "Fix" was to switch profiles in Afterburner when u were at the desktop or gaming. I had and still have in the drawer a HD7990 with the exact same issue, but while running triple monitors the memory never went down to 2d clocks and stayed like at 1500Mhz.
@white_mage
3 жыл бұрын
3:48 build quality has definitely come down a bit
@therealnoodledog6660
3 жыл бұрын
I have a ATI 5970, works untill today, it's paired on a intel core2quad and a msi board - all parts original. Still works - i just never had money to upgrade because of hard times.
@therealnoodledog6660
3 жыл бұрын
Btw fun fact: i never changed the thermal paste... Crazy, i know. Just cleaned the fan with a light brush on the outside about 10 times.
@therealnoodledog6660
3 жыл бұрын
Also, i used to play Matrix and WoW on it. Also RF Online.
@DawggyBiscuits
3 жыл бұрын
I have an old RX480, but most of my "collection" is way older than that, I have a couple E-machines as is in working condition, and few others
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