Hahahahaha ignore the CRV in the background..that was funny. Great review Tommy
@RetirementGoals1
3 жыл бұрын
I really like the SR5 with the Trail package. Smart money purchase. One question, how were you able to go off-road without front red tow hooks? Lol
@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks
3 жыл бұрын
But the Sr5 is the same $ for the off Road
@Fakingittilimakeit
3 жыл бұрын
2 things make the upgrade worth it: bigger axle, rear lockers
@AlexKalicinski
3 жыл бұрын
@@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks Eh its like a 4k difference.
@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexKalicinski no really
@AlexKalicinski
3 жыл бұрын
@@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks 31k vs 35k.
@mkstevenson.
3 жыл бұрын
Next time, start with a base SR and then go up from there for the FULL range. My homely 2021 SR was $20K less than TRD Pro new and has been through Moab, CO and WY, no problem. 👍
@benanderson569
2 жыл бұрын
My SR 4x4 is great! I totally agree.
@cwds70
2 жыл бұрын
I Agree SR-5 is all truck with no fluff...Less is really More...
@mittiejackson8421
2 жыл бұрын
My 1980 Toyota pickup has made it all the way thru.😂😂 No problems.
@mittiejackson8421
2 жыл бұрын
@@benanderson569 the SR 4 X4 is a nice truck, and all people need.
@stufoo
2 жыл бұрын
Driver mod is the most important
@bambikiller338
3 жыл бұрын
I have a TrD off road in manual and I can tell you I use the sunglasses holder a lot more than the automatic folks will use their crawl control. 👍🏻.
@Offshore1977
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I would prefer to have the sun glass holder over the crawl control. They should have placed it else wear.
@borisscepanovic1684
3 жыл бұрын
Is any kind of clutch adjustment needed if one wants to take it off road?
@VanderJam
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Sure you do. TRD OFF Road owner here. Always struggling to store glasses in my truck.
@bambikiller338
3 жыл бұрын
@@borisscepanovic1684 no its a hydrolic clutch so its self adjusting.
@borisscepanovic1684
3 жыл бұрын
@@bambikiller338 O.K.Thanks.
@andyham6094
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this new trail package is gonna be a top seller. Sr5 yet with the locker with lifted suspension and bronze wheels?!? Hell yeah!!
@timlong1462
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, and 5-10k Will buy you some serious aftermarket suspension upgrades if you want to go that route. You could make something way better than the TRD pro for that money, assuming you can do your own labor.
@jps226
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that bed is a dealbreaker for me though. Maybe if I had the room to store those boxes, but the double cab short bed is already pretty small...
@kevinjust6740
2 жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled, I just did a build your own tacoma on the toyota website and the 4x4 double cab SR5 with the trail package is about 1000 to 2000 more than the TRD off road, check it out yourself.
@Aerospacer77
Жыл бұрын
@@jps226bed storage boxes are removable
@smallfact0ry921
3 жыл бұрын
I just checked the Toyota website, and the sr5 with the trail package (with no other options) is $38545 or the TRD Offroad (with no options) is $38745. So for $200 you get all the Offroad software, plus the additional resale that it will bring in the future? It sounds like the Offroad model is giving you a whole lot for $200...
@mannymotta2174
3 жыл бұрын
Plus trd off-road has a slightly larger rear end pumpkin than the others
@YerBoyTroy
3 жыл бұрын
@@mannymotta2174 pretty sure all Tacoma with a manual trans/e locker will have the same size rear differential
@mannymotta2174
3 жыл бұрын
@@YerBoyTroy I believe the trd off road and the pro have an 8-3/4 “ as opposed to 8-1/4 “ for the sport, limited and sr5. May have to do with locker but not sure.
@mannymotta2174
3 жыл бұрын
@@YerBoyTroy I wasn’t referring to manual or automatic specifically, I was referring to the model. My off road dc is a 2016 and I remember reading about the rear end being larger. Truthfully I’ve had the truck over 5 years and I forgot exactly what the specs are to be fair. 1/4” or 1/2” difference approx
@jefftenhave8038
3 жыл бұрын
As per the locker comment.. the difference is the Bronco Locker system (exactly the same Dana/Spicer locker as the Rubicon BTW) does not confirm engagement, it only tells you that you have in fact only turned the locker on.. The Toyota Locker system on the other hand is like the Wrangler Rubicon where it actually confirms that the locker is in fact engaged before the light appears solid..
@henryalvitre6287
9 ай бұрын
I’ve had my trail Tacoma for 4 months now and wow. The rims are sweet & a rear locker is so clutch. No complaints from me
@stephenlove8067
3 жыл бұрын
One benefit to the decals is you can more easily remove them over stampings. My dad had the dealership remove the giant 4x4 and z71 decals off our truck before it even left the dealership. Just a thought for those who prefer a cleaner/unassuming look.
@honda116969
2 жыл бұрын
I think the stickers look 🆒 myself but to each their own and that's cool the dealership took those off 4 your dad 👍👍
@jeremy8715
3 жыл бұрын
Falken Wildpeak AT3W would of been an awesome factory add on for the off-road package.
@chrisb9478
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I just bought a 21 OffRoad & wished it came with Falken At3w’s. The oe Goodyear’s seem more like highway tires. Toyota should make the Falkens standard on the Off-road & Pro.
@samuelrowland76
3 жыл бұрын
At some south eastern Toyota dealerships you can order a Tacoma with more aggressive Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac’s in a 265/70r16.
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
Nitto ridge is the way to go. Or even ko2s. I have nitto ridge on my 2019 and ko2s on my 16. The nitto looks and performs a bit better in my opinion. Both tires also have a good life span, just gotta rotate tires regularly
@austinetheridge3231
3 жыл бұрын
Just put a set of those on my F250. They are great tires! And to think before I bought them I had never even heard of Falken.
@vTRage
2 жыл бұрын
There are far better tires they could pick
@user-ej1bq4bq2w
2 жыл бұрын
The tune does wonders to the trans issues, while it shouldn't be necessary it absolutely is. Where's the Sporty? My sport 4x4 keeps up with the off-road on the trails. I skipped the crawl control because imo it's pointless. Haven't been any any position where I needed the locker yet either. For 6k that offroad was a package I could live without, considering I'm going to do my own suspension.
@kenmcdougal97
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the SR No one reviews the SR package
@AntilleanConfederation
3 жыл бұрын
He did. The best sr5 is the trail.
@kenmcdougal97
3 жыл бұрын
@@AntilleanConfederation the bottom trim package is SR then it goes up to SR5. The SR package is considered the work truck
@midwestpyro8165
3 жыл бұрын
@@kenmcdougal97 Yep, tough to find videos. Love my SR, though.
@chrisridebike8
3 жыл бұрын
The SR5 with the trail package is what the 4Runner Trail “Special Edition” should have been. Instead, to get a locker, I had to get the TRD Off Road, and in Hawaii that means I had to get KDSS, which I didn’t want. Still great trucks though.
@Pabloperes675
3 жыл бұрын
Kdss is nice man, why didn’t you want it?
@Pabloperes675
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have it but wish I did. 2018 Trd off road premium.
@chrisridebike8
3 жыл бұрын
@@Pabloperes675 just for reliability and I don’t want to deal with possible KDSS lean and install headaches when I lift it. It’s supposed to be pretty reliable, but if it goes, it’s very expensive to fix
@Pabloperes675
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisridebike8 thanks for replying!
@JeepCherokeeful
3 жыл бұрын
Tommy travels to the top of the mountain, only to find a Hond CR-V beat him!
@markparent7999
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...i was thinking..if that can make it up there..what the heck do i need a locker. Plus the crv gets great gas mileage.
@mikefoehr235
3 жыл бұрын
Lime Green....YUCK....Jesus what a God awful color.
@stout_tossme7541
3 жыл бұрын
I do love the Tacoma, but that long trip seating position. I am short and struggle with it. I love the fact they added the locker to the trial edition. About time it had something more than looks. Tommy this is the off-road stuff we want. I don't know about others, but I could careless about side by sides.
@stout_tossme7541
3 жыл бұрын
@life phobic yep
@Eric-Sindoni
3 жыл бұрын
If you have the power/adjustable seats, I've found that lowering the back (butt) half of the seat and raising the front (thigh) half has helped with leg support
@goingindieEN
3 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm short and hate the seating arrangement in the Tacoma. My knees are pretty high up when I sit.
@EaglesTime
3 жыл бұрын
They have mods for the seats
@steve8803
3 жыл бұрын
@Stout Tossme "could careless". It's actually "couldn't care less". Seems like so many Americans confuse it.
@TheTinManTJ
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Tommy! Very impressive that I think you shot it all solo!
@scotw67
2 жыл бұрын
I love the front locker, the rear locker that can be locked in 2HI and 4HI, and the terrain management features that can be used in 2HI and 4HI. Oh wait…. The Tacoma has NONE of those, lol!
@nlpnt
3 жыл бұрын
One feature I really like on the SR5 Trail that's missing from the fancier ones is the pale-gray headliner. Makes the interior feel a lot more open and spacious than the black one.
@chrisx5127
Жыл бұрын
That why I don't want it. I want black headliner.
@Aerospacer77
Жыл бұрын
I have a Trail and my friend has an Off-road. I definitely prefer my light grey ceiling!
@mikeh.8155
Жыл бұрын
grey looks old, black looks better and doesn't get as dirty...but just my .02
@DeuceDeuceBravo
2 жыл бұрын
If I was buying a truck with serious offroading in mind, the SR5 Trail Edition is absolutely what I would buy. I'm curious how a TRD Sport would have handled a trail like that. Any idea?
@joshualogan3428
2 жыл бұрын
Probably the same way
@renekoesler4704
Жыл бұрын
I've off-roaded for 35 years and never understood why anyone would want a manual tranny? Automatic is so much easier! Also, how do you run off a trail that's 20 feet wide?
@justinwells6795
3 жыл бұрын
Really like the trail but at over 40 grand msrp(including destination), why wouldn’t you just get the trd off-road? Base msrp for a 2021 TRD OR is about 38? Doesn’t make sense…
@Ww8.3
3 жыл бұрын
So the Trail edition is basically a stripped down less optioned trd off-road for the same price
@371kenny
3 жыл бұрын
Correct. But you get bronze lol
@mrvwbug4423
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, cloth interior TRD off road is the same price
@DB-qm4jx
Жыл бұрын
Oh and a mild lift
@johnwesley6224
3 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner TRD Off Road is the way to go. I love these Toyota videos!
@StubProductions
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Add a Toytec 2” / 1.5” spacer lift and a set of 265 KO2’s and you have an unstoppable off-road rig that can easily go 300,000 miles.
@thebigempty_5792
3 жыл бұрын
@@StubProductions Ironman 4x4 Foam Cell Pro and Ko2's
@canalesivany
3 жыл бұрын
4Runner TRD off-road is the best by far, 4.0 and 5 speed transmission are bulletproof
@StubProductions
3 жыл бұрын
@@thebigempty_5792 Nothing wrong with stock components. Just needs the front spacer to preload the spring slightly. And spacer on top of coil in back to add a little height. Good setup that is still all factory components.
@JasonExplainsThings
3 жыл бұрын
@@thebigempty_5792 I'm very interested in the foam cell suspension. Love my KO2's.
@rjmc41994
3 жыл бұрын
Im loving my 19' TRD off-road 4x4 so far, its my first truck and i don't see myself looking into a different brand any time soon
@Jv19979
3 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of mine. Dang thing hunts for gears on interstate.
@rjmc41994
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jv19979 you should get a Pedal Commander, helps a lot on the throttle
@Jv19979
3 жыл бұрын
@@rjmc41994 thanks I'll look into it. I was going to get a tuner but couldn't find one. ECT pwr button seems to help but still hunts for gears
@rjmc41994
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jv19979 ECT helps sometimes but if you really want to help your transmission, the Pedal Commander is the way to go. Plus its cheaper than finding a tuner (unless you gots a tuner guy that can give you discounts)
@urinecakes
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jv19979 pedal commander is good and all but it’s a bandaid. If you can afford it and really wanna fix the way the truck drives getting an OVtune is the way to go.
@daved6464
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the video. Going the extra mile to get video of the stuck truck.
@user-tb5ns7hc5i
2 жыл бұрын
Since the pros finally started showing up here I’ve compared them all side by side. Best truck option after driving them all is the pro with a manual transmission if you can handle rowing the gears on a trail. The extra 2” height and better shocks make a noticeable difference and the pro just looks cool.
@user-tb5ns7hc5i
2 жыл бұрын
If I were going to mod one though, the offroad premium is the way to go, although no manual option anymore. :( the leather and power seat makes a big comfort difference on longer trips.
@user-tb5ns7hc5i
2 жыл бұрын
Bottom line though - they are all super capable if they have the rear locker option, a lift, and a good set of offroad tires… if you’re a skilled driver, all of these trucks will go places the competition’s cannot, even in 2wd.
@speterbilt
3 жыл бұрын
Love my 17 stock Taco offroad. Did Black Bear, Imogene, and Clear Lake easily
@aldo90731
3 жыл бұрын
With regards to Bronco’s “instant” locker: I keep hearing that when you “engage” the lockers on Bronco, the light comes on immediately, but that doesn’t mean the lockers have engaged. Apparently Jeep and Bronco use the exact same supplier; Ford simply chose for the locker light to come on regardless of the lockers having engaged or not. Toyota and Jeep, on the other hand, choose to let the driver know when the locker engaged by lighting up only after it does.
@TFLclassics
3 жыл бұрын
I thought that at first too but after playing with it when the light is on the Lockers is on, I’ve played with it on super articulated areas and it’s the best in the business
@DougVandegrift
3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm after driving it off-road that the bronco engages its lockers almost instantly.
@codyschmid6807
3 жыл бұрын
Video after video shows the lockers are engaged as quickly as the light comes on. It's clear when you see the wheels go from slipping to no slipping when the buttons are pushed. Whoever is saying that is probably a hater 😂
@jps226
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I've been going back and forth in recent weeks on the SR5 trail vs. TRD OR, and settled on the TRD OR. The toyota builder has the msrp of the SR5 Trail higher than the TRD OR in 2022. I do love those wheels though...
@anthonymele4847
Жыл бұрын
I live in Leadville (10k surrounded by 14k). Your not being a baby. Walking up a steep hill above 12k is rough lol
@Offshore1977
3 жыл бұрын
I love the 3rd gen Tacoma seating position. I’ll take ground clearance any day. I find to make the rear locker lock easier is to actually turn as it is trying to engage. It will make the rear tires turn at different speeds which will help engage to lock pin.
@mrvwbug4423
3 жыл бұрын
That is common to most electric actuated lockers. Jeep lockers are the same, though sometimes you have to saw at the wheel a tad to get a Jeep locker to disengage.
@Kana0211
3 жыл бұрын
My locker on the fj qould keep blinking even when engaged and a couple weeks later the locker called it wuits and now it doesn't work. Lol
@mikegilmer9990
2 жыл бұрын
I’m 6.3 and haven’t had any problems with the sitting position but when I got my first Tacoma in 2004 it was uncomfortable for a couple of weeks until I became accustomed to the seats mainly my right leg thank god for cruise control.
@larsulven1852
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Emme again :-)
@mannymotta2174
3 жыл бұрын
Although I appreciate the idea that these trucks are great off-road, the majority of Tacoma owners like me buy them because they run forever, will get you to work in the snow and are fairly fuel efficient. Not to mention great resale value. That being said, even though the positives outweighs the negative, The negatives IMO after over 5 years and 73k are : shitty seating position, automatic tranny, front bumper is junk , paint is thin, cabin is very noisy,….besides that I never had an issue mechanically, rides as tight as day 1, interior while plain I’d sturdy, you can overload the bed and the truck doesn’t squat, actually has good acceleration for what it is, will go through any snow, rows up to 4000 lbs comfortably (6400-6800 max is bullshit). Avg fuel mileage for me with wildpeak at3 is 21 mpg avg. and I paid $32,700 out the door in 2016. So it made sense considering everything. I don’t go off road because I need this truck to get to work and don’t want to ruin it. Just my two cents. Good video.
@mynamesbutchful
2 жыл бұрын
Are the seats already comfy enough?
@n0dedotorg
Жыл бұрын
Why 73k, specifically?
@ArizonaGunsDave
3 жыл бұрын
I cringe watching such nice trucks go off road. The constant force on the shocks, struts and undercarriage is too much. If I am going to spend 40,000 plus on a truck like this I damn sure ain't doing this.
@_n8787
2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone’s with sense
@cosmotraumatika7474
3 жыл бұрын
Great advice on the TRD Off-Road. I bought a 2021 Off-Road and put the $10k I saved into a 3-2 lift, RCI Metalworks sliders, full underbody armor, tires, bedrack, bed stiffeners, and rooftop tent. Pretty sure it outdoes the Pro now.
@mengzilla6496
2 жыл бұрын
you can get the SR5 4x4 and do your same upgrade :)
@austinstrickland5850
2 жыл бұрын
Idk how you got all that for 10k but Good job. I’m building out my wife’s 4Runner right now and 10k only got us suspension, wheels, tires, and sliders. And on my 17 Tacoma TRD off-road 10k got me a full midtravel fox racing suspension kit, front skid, sliders, and the labor to install because I’m military and not home to put it on. (Also way to impatient to do it when I get home 😂)
@jps226
2 жыл бұрын
Did you get the auto or manual? I'm looking at 2022's and love manuals but was going auto since it's my first off-road vehicle. Is auto really that bad?
@ThatsWhatSheSaid75
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy - you mentioned how a manual really transforms the Tacoma. I'd love to see a video where you compare the automatic to the manual in multiple off-road scenarios. Keep up the great work!
@rezyn0
3 жыл бұрын
You can get a locking diff on the base XL Ranger 4x4, Toyota had to match, this is why competition is good.
@ghilliemanreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Same goes with the new f150s, so that tells us the Tundra will have a locking rear diff with the new gen.
@AkioWasRight
3 жыл бұрын
What the segment needs is fresh blood. $40,000 for a lower-end trim of a mid-size truck developed over a decade ago is silly. The prices for mid-size trucks are all but fixed, protected by government regulations that keeps competition stale.
@AkioWasRight
3 жыл бұрын
@ivebeen That'll never happen with CAFE regulation.
@AkioWasRight
3 жыл бұрын
@ivebeen Because a smaller truck has to comply with a different set of MPG requirements. Basically, if you make a truck the size of a car, even it's basically the same platform as a larger version, you then have to comply the corporate averages for that size of a vehicle. That's hard to do with a truck, because the construction of a truck doesn't lend itself to fuel economy. It's the main reason everything seems to have gotten bigger. Mid-size trucks are basically the same size as full-size trucks from 30 years ago, because it makes it easier to comply with CAFE. This is also explains why regular cab short-beds trucks have disappeared, because they fall into a stricter CAFE segment. So, everything has gotten bigger, because it's easier to make things bigger rather than comply with set MPG requirements in smaller categories. Really, it shows government stupidity, and how unintended consequences work.
@KTMcaptain
3 жыл бұрын
@ivebeen It's because no one wants them, so to produce it Toyota would lose economies of scale which would either make it not profitable or make it even more expensive. It's only cheap to produce cars when expensive manufacturing techniques can be offset my massive number of sales volume
@TRUE_GR1T
Жыл бұрын
You should find a clean 2nd gen (preferably a 2012-2015) and use the money saved over a new one to put a, lift, wheels and tires on it. You will end up with a better truck =)
@loytowse8140
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! As cool as all of these trucks are I have to go with the 2022 TRD Pro. The suspension, skid plate, badging, and extra clearance are worth it in my opinion.
@amalfi460
3 жыл бұрын
Trd pro is the best in the trd line up....but it's not the best truck option. Just another Toyota love fest vijayo
@jefferyturner517
3 жыл бұрын
Witch has the better ride your willies or the tacoma on that trail.
@jackgervais640
2 жыл бұрын
Remind me not to buy a low mileage manufacturer owned red tacoma
@Magellan678
3 жыл бұрын
TRD Bros get so caught up in their badge on the fender when in all reality they practically all have similar capabilities.
@mechmat12345
3 жыл бұрын
The suspension and lift are legit upgrades, whether or not it's a good value is debatable but they're not the same.
@Magellan678
3 жыл бұрын
@@mechmat12345 Never said they were the same. Agree though, aftermarket represents a better value.
@XxCrankyMoosexX
3 жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part. I have a ‘19 TRD off road and it’s never failed me on trails. I got it for over $10k less than any TRD Pro model I could find. If I was looking at the ‘22 - I’d definitely go with the SR5 Trail package to maximize the value.
@obviousgreyman
3 жыл бұрын
Toyota’s been doing so well with the trd pro colors what were they thinking? That green plus the new feature on the trail package is looking like the SR5 is gonna have a good year.
@doubletap777
3 жыл бұрын
Who buys these things? What do they do, that a 4Runner or F150 cant do 100% better?
@obviousgreyman
3 жыл бұрын
@@doubletap777 they have more off-road features, better clearance angles, weigh less, and are more compact than an f150 all things you want off road and they have much more utility than a 4Runner with same/similar capabilities.
@doubletap777
3 жыл бұрын
@@obviousgreyman Over a 4R? Nah dawg
@Kana0211
3 жыл бұрын
@@doubletap777 a bed
@doubletap777
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kana0211 again, see F150. 2x the power and economy and space....
@equalizer2233
3 жыл бұрын
Seat Jackers that mount under the front seat brackets fix the seat issue. Getting the KDMax tune installed improves the gear hunting and increases throttle response. Ive had both and almost makes it feel like a different truck.
@mrvwbug4423
3 жыл бұрын
If you raised the Tacoma's seat any more you'd be hitting your head, the Taco has very little headroom. I'm looking into the KDMax tune for my Taco, the 4th gear deathgrip gets old.
@equalizer2233
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 The seat jackers dont raise the whole seat, they raise the front under the knees. I have plenty of headroom and I have the moonroof.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
3 жыл бұрын
True story, back in 2019, I tried to but a Tacoma, but I couldn’t fit in one properly. The upgrade I’d like to see is a taller cabin and seats so I could have a “truck like” seating position, not a “Yaris seating position”.
@JH-mt3pp
2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you ?
@edsoncedeno8354
3 жыл бұрын
Last year, trail edition was priced above TRD Off Road... There is no sense to go for the trail edition over off road if the price stay the same.
@371kenny
3 жыл бұрын
I've read its $40k. But you get bronze!! Lol
@DB-qm4jx
Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2023 double cab long bed off-road last month brand new. And the MSRP was just over $1000 less than the trail edition. I asked about it, but they had a special mark up on it. No special off-road features, except for the lift kit and bronze Trd wheels. Oh, and I guess to cubby boxs is in the bed. I thought about it for a second because it’s a pretty truck. But it made more sense to pay less especially without mark up with more features and put a lift kit on for $1000 myself I guess the wheels I don’t get, but I like the factory off-road wheels.
@mojo4376
2 жыл бұрын
If only they put the 6 speed manual on the Trail Edition. That would be the winner.
@jamesnemeth8067
3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed comments and really helped me with my buying decision. Very well done, Tommy!!!!
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
What are you buying?
@Gobirds1399
2 жыл бұрын
This year’s Trd pro is another level and that new lime green but still not enough for me to buy over the off road version
@botashs
3 жыл бұрын
Realizing a 200 series was on this trip- how did it do size wise? I’m certain it had no problems going over obstacles, but how well did it fit around obstacles- trees and such? Am also curious, Tommy, how you felt the 4Runner did when comparing the same trim level against a Tacoma.
@shughes911
3 жыл бұрын
Thx for addressing that! I really want a tacoma but that seating position kills my low back!! Any suggestion? i would get the 4runner but i need a truck! I like the Ranger but that thing needs a interior update! I feel a f150 is to big?
@DeuceDeuceBravo
2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Tacoma Seat Jackers. $100 to fix the seating position. Big difference.
@shughes911
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeuceDeuceBravo oh nice man! Thx for that info! I did find the seating position a little strange!
@PAExploration
3 жыл бұрын
I know nobody would probably buy them anymore, since everyone is brainwashed into thinking a four door SUV with a bed on the back is a truck now, but it would be nice if they still offered single cab versions with both short and long beds.
@bonvaicu
3 жыл бұрын
Toyota says nobody buys single cab, that’s why it’s discontinued. I like the electric lime
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
No one buys them because they're expensive as hell and people feel like they are getting better value in the access cab or double cab. Plus when they did have them they only came in the stupid 4 cylinder no trd package and just plane simpler for almost as much as a double cab trd. They almost made it feel like a rip off. I went in 2014 because I heard they were gonna stop making them and they wanted 28k for a single cab 4x4 tacoma with the slow 4 cylinder. The double cab trd 4x4 was 31k with a v6.
@PAExploration
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 Guess it makes sense when they’re charging 28K for a short bed single cab, that’s crazy. I’d still like to have a single cab long before work truck, I don’t like full size trucks
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
@@PAExploration even a base access cab starts at around 28k now days. I really wanted one but for the money you can get something much better
@mikegabler5183
2 жыл бұрын
yesterday I found out why the Tacoma does not have a front locker! Does not need one if you have the MTS! If you are using the MTS, don't use the rear locker. Tried it out on a hill called "Big Money" in the snow. the hill cost a lot of money to get up and not making it up results in sledding down at a high rate of speed in reverse even with your foot pushing the brake pedal through the floor. In my previous Toyota's I could usually make it up with my locker engaged. This time, no locker, but used MTS in mud and sand mode, didn't even air down. crawled right up the hill. turning around at the top and coming down is usually just as treacherous as you go down in 4 low 1st gear for as long as you can until you start sledding again. Crawl control on and the truck came down the hill very slow and controlled, although noisy as the ABS was very busy on the way down. I may never use my locker again!!!
@J.Young808
3 жыл бұрын
Get the Trail without the sunroof and then you can raise up more.
@pnwyeti3008
2 жыл бұрын
Leather, sunroof, better ride quality, taller, unique color, wheels, fog lights, etc................To each their own
@10ecaggie29
4 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Tacoma limited.
@belowme4927
3 жыл бұрын
LEFTOVER SUBARU HYBRID LIME
@youtubecarspottersguide1
3 жыл бұрын
guess no one buys a basic sr 4cy 4x4 there less than $30k like to see how they are off road
@zman92630
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 4 Runner SR5 4x4. Over the years, I added a suspension lift, bigger tires, sliders, skid plates, UCA's, rear locker, and a front bumper/winch. It only has 145k miles on it, can conquer the same terrain as the expensive new ones. I'll keep it forever!
@FlatFifties
3 жыл бұрын
I plan to buy a Tacoma TRD PRO when the special color is Mary Kay pink.
@gavinkeddie8540
Жыл бұрын
Would really like to see EVERY VERSION tested and not just the two highest trim levels.
@7duke77
3 жыл бұрын
If it weren't for the horrible seats, I would already be in line to buy one of these, but those seats are a deal breaker. :(
@aldo90731
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I had to sell my 2019 TRD Off-Road due to the terrible seats and the automatic transmission. I loved everything else about the truck, but those two things were just too important to overlook.
@o2boutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the focus on function and value over frills!
@oscaralcalaonyoutube
Жыл бұрын
Just purchased a Trail Edition this week and I’m loving it. It was nice hearing you say it’s the one to buy. Give me ground clearance, 4x4 and a rear locker and I’m good to go! Plus those gold rims 😍
@DUNEATV
3 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best looking mid-size truck made! Unfortunately it’s really lacking in almost everything. Interior, drivetrain…ect 🥺
@feliperomanoff9808
3 жыл бұрын
Even reliability is also lacking now, engine's plastic cooling parts are breaking
@MrZachgonz
3 жыл бұрын
You can tune them and get better shifting/MPG but yea I wish it had a more powerful engine and maybe a 8-10 speed transmission. Overall though I really like my TRD 4x4 OR.
@canalesivany
3 жыл бұрын
@@feliperomanoff9808 fiat Chrysler is more reliable 😂
@BadKittus
3 жыл бұрын
Access cab, off-road + manual is best Taco!
@yamaminjus
3 жыл бұрын
$3765 for the Trail package. . . .thats gonna make your SR5 the same price as a base TRD OR.
@Offshore1977
3 жыл бұрын
So your better off with TRD OR
@Shakerhood69
3 жыл бұрын
40,635 for the SR5 Trail Edition, that is higher than the Off Road.
@jaytea4093
3 жыл бұрын
You drove a Tacoma in Colorado, now you has to drive a Colorado in Tacoma
@dantheman9395
3 жыл бұрын
That SR5 Trail edition is my choice! Simple and functional
@Jv19979
3 жыл бұрын
The thing I like about Ford. You can lock the rear without 4x4. And Toyota only lets you change modes in 4x4 low.
@zacharygoeden1282
3 жыл бұрын
Need off-road comparison with pro4x and trd off-road
@brentworls8509
3 жыл бұрын
Can the 2022 Trail edition be had in a Double-Cab with a 6-foot bed? Hopefully!
@carrdoug99
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you Tommy. The SR5 seems like the clear choice. Especially seeing as how I'm only interested in the manual transmission (call control wouldn't be available anyway). Thanks for the nice review.👍
@WillHinkle2
2 жыл бұрын
Is the SR5 available in manual?
@fringelunatic
3 жыл бұрын
I have the SR package with V6 4x4. Can someone test that.
@Wiskeytango360
3 жыл бұрын
No offense to the channel but You guys make the vehicle look less capable with the lack of off road driving skills.
@charleswhite5482
2 жыл бұрын
Ordered the Tacoma TRD Pro in electric lime green metallic. Planning some long road trips with a lot of off roading.
@eeleye4
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so mad I bought the trail edition last year and they decided to throw in the locker for this year's model😑 Still prefer my SR5 trail edition to an off road!
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you prefer an sr5 trail over an off road? Aren't they basically the same price?Btw I have a 19 trd sport (same 4x4 system as the sr5)and a 16 trd off road. The locker is unnecessary unless you are doing some very technical stuff. Even then the sr5 will make it, it'll just be easier and more controlled if you have a locker.
@theylied1776
3 жыл бұрын
I love Emme Hall. There are a lot of Automotive reporters and reviewers out there, but Emme Hall does her research.
@rondail5675
3 жыл бұрын
Good review Tommy. The Tacoma is a very capable truck. For me to buy one, I would like: * 8 or 9 speed automatic * higher sitting seats, higher roof * updated dash, cluster, infotainment * not sure, I want heated seats and steering, power rear window * nice leather power seats for both front For now, the new Frontier is the most appealing to me.
@mrvwbug4423
3 жыл бұрын
So I've heard a lot of probably reliable rumors concerning the upcoming 4 Runner and Tacoma (from the guy that nailed all the predictions on the new Tundra), and what I've heard is the V6 is going away in favor of a 2.4L turbo, and probably getting the 10 speed auto that is in the upcoming Tundra. Also all the US market Toyota trucks (Tundra, Sequoia, 4 Runner, Tacoma) will be on a common platform, which also probably means the Tacoma is getting coil springs out back too just like the Tundra is getting.
@mct8888
3 жыл бұрын
Frontier is a letdown. Have you actually driven one? The interior materials are a joke, so cheap. It looks awesome, but is a typical Nissan in terms of quality.
@---rg1gb
2 жыл бұрын
I second this
@DeuceDeuceBravo
2 жыл бұрын
Have you driven a Frontier? The exterior styling and transmission feel modern, but that's it. The driving dynamics and interior feel old. And I'd bet the Tacoma holds its value better, even with a redesign coming soon.
@rondail5675
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeuceDeuceBravo I haven't driven a Frontier. I bought a 2022 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition last October.
@haydenphalen153
2 жыл бұрын
Love a taco but… electric lime is 🤢
@lucasblanchard47
3 жыл бұрын
The SR5 Trail Package definitely seems like the one I’d buy! Seems perfect for mountain bike camping trips!
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
Just get a regular sr5. The sr5 trail edition is pretty much the same price as the off road so why even bother?. The sr5 will most likely take you anywhere the ones with lockers will.
@lucasblanchard47
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 I’ll consider that too
@lifeoutdoors3953
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 the trail SR-5 has rear lockers
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
@@lifeoutdoors3953 yes I know this. The new one does.
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
@@lifeoutdoors3953 I was saying just get the regular sr5
@peterhoma6385
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t understand the complaint about the automatic trans in the Tacoma with “gear hunt” I have a 2021 TRD ORDC 4x4 and I drive it in 7000 ft elevation all the time , yes it down shifts just like any automatic trans does , but It will hold the proper gear until you crest the hill . It will down shift from 6th to 5th sometimes 4th if the hill is very steep the truck stays in 4th it’s doesn’t up shift going up a hill? I’ve driven Colorado v6 and ranger they down shift more than the Tacoma , they down shift 4-5 gears when Tacoma down shifts one gear maybe two gears??? I think Toyota did an exceptional job with this automatic transmission. I will say in high elevation on twisty mountain passes that are 25-30 mph turns I switch it to sports mode and pick my gears for the turns it’s does fantastic for a truck very good handling .
@Boltdriver70
3 жыл бұрын
agree
@northerntoyota7584
3 жыл бұрын
Great review Tommy! No interruptions from dad. The TE finally makes sense for 2022 and would be the trim I’d choose once my 2005 wears out, but that might have to wait until the 4th Gen? 5th? 😂
@racingfortheson
3 жыл бұрын
Do they have a 4Runner Trail? If so, does it come with a locker?
@Fishingrunner
3 жыл бұрын
Love my 2018 Cement TRD Sport with the 6-speed manual, bought that truck brand new during that time and currently has almost 61,000 miles and it’s been an awesome truck ever since new! But I have to say, I love the looks of that SR5 Trail in Lunar rock! Really like the fact that it has a rear locker. Makes me almost want to trade in my Sport when these come out.
@davidr6865
2 жыл бұрын
Any issues with the clutch? I’ve been reading about people having to replace them at 30-40k miles
@Fishingrunner
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidr6865 nope never had any issues. I was planning on keeping it forever, but I had recently wanted to get into a 4Runner, so I ended up trading my Tacoma in. I put 66,000 miles on it when I traded it in. Had I not gotten an awesome trade in for it for $35,000 I probably wouldn’t have done it. But I wanted the 4.0L and plan on having kids in the near future so I wanted the 4Runner for space as well.
@jackgervais640
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Offroad or the new trail is the best value. However, if you option up an offroad to match the standard TRD pro options (heated seats, etc) it actually is more expensive. If you don't want the interior goodies, a SRD Trail with an aftermarket suspension is the way to go, although it doesn't look like you can get the manual on an SR5. I am ready to order a 2022 tacoma and would get the trail, as you suggested, if only they sold it with the stick shift.
@michaelblock3998
3 жыл бұрын
Sell the Jeep Tommy you know your a Toyota guy.
@edsoncedeno8354
3 жыл бұрын
I think the same when at the final Tommy says he's going to think about life choices... Funny part is I have the same Willys...
@PAKraig
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And the Wrangler has probably already appreciated in value thanks to this crazy car market 😲
@NemeanLion-
3 жыл бұрын
Jeep will counter with an upgrade package on the JL Sport that has a rear locker and rubicon tires hopefully. If they don’t, they’re stupid.
@AkioWasRight
3 жыл бұрын
The Tacoma drives like crap. I truly doubt he has any regrets.
@NemeanLion-
3 жыл бұрын
@@AkioWasRight it sounds to me like capability means more to him than anything if he’s regretting his purchase. There are plenty of tools in the toolbox to upgrade whatever vehicle you have. Whether you love the jeep or the Tacoma, you should always begin there and then build on top of it.
@benpinter1988
3 жыл бұрын
100% agree on the seat comfort. Had 2 different rental Tacoma TRD Off road models for 2 weeks 2000 miles and I just could not get comfortable in either of them. Transmission tuning is interesting, it was terrible in the first one which had very few miles, but felt a lot better in the second one which had 12000 miles on it. And the 3.5 was not happy above 10 thousand feet of elevation but that's expected.
@aldo90731
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, TRD Off-Road offers the best overall value in the Tacoma lineup for the trail: it has all the hardware -and software- you need, without the unnecessary flash of TRD Pro
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
If you are talking msrp yes you are right. But you are more likely to get a better discount on the other model's and less markup. For example I bought my 2019 trd sport for over 2k cheaper. And in all honesty the 4x4 system on any tacoma is so good you don't really need a locker unless you are going to seriously modify it for serious off road. But at the point you're better off just getting an air locker with the money you save from not getting the Off road. Or a jeep.
@RedWingsninetyone
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 the TRD Off Road and Pro also come with larger rear ends than the TRD Sport.
@alexgarcia3900
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedWingsninetyone yes I did forget about that actually. But since you can't lock the rear end on the sport/sr5/sr anyway it doesn't really need to be stronger. I'm sure the new trail comes with the bigger diff as well.
@skippysvr4586
3 жыл бұрын
3/4 metal sleeve under rear mounts from ace hardware fixed seating angle. Huge improvement for my wife. Simple fix.
@StubProductions
3 жыл бұрын
I see there’s a rescue 4runner and Landcruiser in the convoy. Lol
@jasonw8124
3 жыл бұрын
Love the premise of the SR5 Trail, however I can't order an SR5 Trail in extended cab. They only offer it in Crew Cab, WTH Toyota? Not everyone wants a 4 door truck with no bed length!!
@sergekrasovski3700
3 жыл бұрын
No bed length? Ha! AC is foot bigger, makes absolutely no difference. If we talking about 10ft vs 6ft then yes. I can fit everything in my 5ft box that anyone can fit in their “long box”
@jasonw8124
3 жыл бұрын
@@sergekrasovski3700 we sleep in the back of our current truck, which has a 5'-7" bed length. I'd prefer 6' or more. Ha!
@ryanm4013
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonw8124 How dare you want a 6’ bed for your own specific needs!!! 🤣😂🤣
@46rambo49
3 жыл бұрын
Tommy as always, your reviews are knowledgeable, full of experience of a someone that has done the deed. now if we could get the model we want in a stick shift. and the new ones come with a fat guy in shorts to direct you??? how special color I call BILE it's vile, how's the "chip" situation at Toyota? with GM shutting down production due to shortages
@peachtexoutdoors2259
3 жыл бұрын
The ONLY negatives I can see in the Trail Edition are the bed boxes. If you're able to remove them (or not even include them), then I think the TE is the clear winner. Of course, I'm the weirdo who prefers cloth seats and no sunroof.
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
3 жыл бұрын
16:16 - a famous classic sound of a high revving naturally aspirated engine... ;)
@djcordes4352
3 жыл бұрын
As a tall guy I literally HATED my 4Runner for the seating position described in the video. The Tacoma is the same way. This would never be my choice for an everyday driver. Give me a much more comfortable full-size truck/SUV. Also, I’d rather have something I don’t care about to get scratched and hit skid plates. These trucks are so overpriced now to bash on and are so much less capable towing!
@Fix_It_Again_Tony
3 жыл бұрын
"Baby head sized boulders that spit out from underneath the tires ." Interesting visual. I'm looking forward to the 2022 Frontier and Tacoma head-to-head video. You guys are doing a great job.
@Val_Nikon
3 жыл бұрын
If only they offered the sr5 trail edition in an access cab!
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