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@leonardceres9061
Жыл бұрын
The part where you talk about going in to a new game, blind kind of resonated with me because I prefer to do that on most of the games I play, which is why when I recently started BG 3 I forgot that this game even existed. I didn’t look up anything for play into any of the hype and I’ve been having a pretty good time.
@rogoth01themasterwizard11
Жыл бұрын
so have you given up on destiny 2 rofl?
@zed4229
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a waste of money to me nothing worth playing out there.
@steamworkfox4564
Жыл бұрын
Play destiny again, recently I a Returning player brought a New player into Destiny. Despite my years of experience up to the Black Armory expansion, NEITHER of us could even play the game.
@TheLordDracula
Жыл бұрын
Man it feels like it's been years since we've gotten a proper video with skits and a script and extensive editing. Missed these kinds of videos.
@ragstar7868
Жыл бұрын
Like the Legacy videos of WoW classes/expansions. Still the best playlist on the channel.
@bewm
Жыл бұрын
Shame the jokes/characters/silly voices are literally the exact same as they were 10 years ago but yeah.
@DecayedPony
Жыл бұрын
@@bewm m8, bet you don't even pvp tho do you mate *in preaches skit voice*
@Wolfntee
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how fair you guys have been with your GW2 playthrough. You guys were able to appreciate the game for what it is as it is so different from others. You guys highlight it's strengths, while giving completely fair criticism where it needs it (and funnily enough, coming to similar conclusions to long-enfranchised players in the community)
@Hard-Core-Gaming
Жыл бұрын
As an ex wow player and a gw2 player, i think they did a great job.
@ootsie194
Жыл бұрын
"But now its all like yellow.. and rubbish.. and weeb" with that facial expression actually had me in tears 🤣🤣🤣
@kirinkappa5662
Жыл бұрын
About going in blind. Guys, remember, you only have ONE chance to experience specific MMO for the first time. You'll have many years to be good and knowledgeable about that game, but you can feel new and lost only this one time. Don't take it away from yourself.
@deckofcardboard
Жыл бұрын
You also only get one first impression. It would be nice if there was a perfect balance of guidance without being spoiled.
@MrDmoe33
Жыл бұрын
"This is just wow with guns" fucking killed me. It's funny because there are people out there that actually say that.
@seekittycat
Жыл бұрын
Project MMO is such a magical project thank you for this Mike. I love the thought of MMO players being gamers again and just taking their time and playing games
@dafire9634
Жыл бұрын
The jailer was so kind as to release them from their chains
@thesunthrone
Жыл бұрын
I feel that second skit in my soul. The turbo elite super pro friend that wants you to start a new MMO, then always flakes because you're not caught up at the same level of everything they're doing and you're there all alone again, at the mercy of PuGs.
@nils191
Жыл бұрын
Had one of those, he eventually gave up on the mmo thing. Most the time, they're just very hyped about a new thing because they want to recapture that old feeling they used to have, sooner or later they realize it's not the games, but themselves, that's causing it to feel so dull. It's not the mmo's that changed per. say, they've just grown up
@eriltegoleth4067
Жыл бұрын
Had one of those (knew him from a different game) bug me for weeks on end until I bought a 6 month package from wow, made sure the referral went through, then ditched. Promised "we'll do dungeons together", but every time I asked, he was doing some high end stuff with his other max level friends. Or even Torghast. Disgusting.
@thrambonnukit1248
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Me, when I started FFXIV - coming from WoW - for the first 2 or 3 days: "This is so much worse than WoW." "Urgh, this is made so bad." "This Map is so terrible." "So Cringe." But I tried to be open-minded and fell in love with it! (started FFXIV just a week or 2 before you did btw!)
@Suirioujin
Жыл бұрын
honestly, I jumped on FF14 alone, barely knowing a thing, as my first MMO, just because the opening cinematic is amazing, and because it has amazing soundtracks even though I'm still playing solo, 230 hours in a month, I having a great time on the game
@medivh1035
11 ай бұрын
As a pvp player, me too
@fatboy1546
Жыл бұрын
To explore a new MMO without prejudice and allowing the world and music to envelope you is a magical feeling. Broadening your horizons to see what other games prioritized to cater to their niche will also rejuvenate your passion and love for your first MMO as you see begin seeing it in a new light. Being from FF14 and playing GW2 has been an enlightening experience for me and, despite being drastically different, they compliment what the other game lacks because it is not a particular focus in that game, such as open world for FF14 and instanced content for GW2. MMORPG endgame loop is not for everyone but the first time you experience the expansion or story is always worthwhile regardless of game, so I hope other players take the bold approach of trying a new MMO just to get the newfound perspective and feeling of wanderlust once more.
@Velshin1986
Жыл бұрын
I agree up until you start min/max then all that immersive unfortunately get diminished.
@k9tirion927
Жыл бұрын
@@Velshin1986 I'd disagree with that to a certain extent. My raid experience are FF14 savage and some ultimates and CE raiding in WoW, you will absolutely need 3rd party tools, read guides and minmax in both games. But the extent is vastly different, in WoW you'll master and progress through a hard fight with a lot of addons, raid notes, weak auras and timers (or even crazier stuff like fatescribe WA or echo of neltharion map WA), so generally a metric f@ckton of 3rd party visual and audio cues. This is not the case in FF14 at all, you can learn the hardest fights there by heart and without needing all that 3rd party crap (that to be fair also exists) because the fights have adequate visual and audio cues that make those plugins not necessary. Guess which game has way more immersive fights even in a long winded progress? Like, there is a certain point of mastery in FF14 fights where I just start vibin to the banger music, never had that at a mythic boss in WoW lol.
@Velshin1986
Жыл бұрын
@@k9tirion927 You clearly missed my entire point. I never said FF14 or any other mmo didnt have immersive feeling. I specifcally said min/max attitude+addons = immersive diminished. Key word here is diminished I never said gone. That is from my own experience as a gamer of the 80s generation and a player who used to play hardcore raiding in WoW from 2005 to WoD expansion (I became filthy casual afterward and now in Dragonflight I am just a heroic raider).
@k9tirion927
Жыл бұрын
@@Velshin1986 Why did I miss the point? I just said that (in my opinion only ofc.) it doesn't get diminished if done right like in FF.
@Velshin1986
Жыл бұрын
@@k9tirion927 and I wasnt talking about FF specifically I was talking in general video games in general the moment you care about numbers and output = diminish immersive. That is why I said you missed the point. You talk about one game, and I am talking about in general here...
@AMVmushroom
Жыл бұрын
15yr ex WoW vet :/ current casual GW2 enjoyer
@AMVmushroom
Жыл бұрын
And enjoying it!
@casadycawlfield1019
Жыл бұрын
i been playing final fantasy for 34 days on average of 6 hours a day after playing World of warcraft from 2005-2006 to 2023. Im glad i quit.
@dafire9634
Жыл бұрын
If you're open to talk, would you be willing to elaborate on what made you quit
@casadycawlfield1019
Жыл бұрын
@dafire9634 every expansion is the same thing for me, and I just got tired of playing it. That's all. I tried quitting before but it didn't work as good as I wanted it to, but this time I don't plan on coming back
@Spika94
Жыл бұрын
It's true, playing with friends is so much better. I finally found a group of people to play with in FFXIV, and they have made me log in and stay logged in for 8-10 hours every day for over a week now. It has been super fun just hanging out and playing together. I even started doing ocean fishing and fishing in general, just because they did it, and it has been really fun. And I am now even dipping my toes back into housing, which I never had a reason to even do before.
@whirl2418
Жыл бұрын
I fuckin love Mike's "pvp mate" voice, it's so funny 😄
@kimaclaret
Жыл бұрын
Outtakes are always welcome and appreciated. And the boys are lookin good! I love where Preach Gaming is these days and all the encouragement for people to try different things. So much happiness has come from all of this, mine included.
@bondsmatthew
Жыл бұрын
I do have to say, seeing Mike with a beanie again? It's just so nostalgic!
@Skyztamer
Жыл бұрын
I relate to this so much coming from FFXIV into GW2. As well as trying to initially play GW2 like it was FFXIV back in 2016. I also made what I feel was a mistake of choosing a combat profession based on what I enjoyed playing in FFXIV. The problem with that philosophy of mine was that these two games play very differently from each other. So I soon dropped GW2 because I didn't take the time to learn its systems and mechanics. It wasn't until spring of last year that I decided to give GW2 another try since I was burning out from FFXIV post Endwalker. (I now only sub for new major patches since I'm caught up. I still very much love the game; I just don't have any reason to stay subbed year round) and wanted to try another MMO. I remembered GW2 and even though I still had an active account and character around lvl 25; I decided to make a new character of a different combat profession and race (both choices because I thought they seemed cool on their own merits; not because I was trying to emulate my enjoyment of FFXIV again) as a fresh start to the game. After taking my time learning the game, it finally clicked with me within two days. I've since recently finished Icebrood Saga and have two lvl 80 characters with more to come since I'm hooked on the combat (my lvl 80 alt is my OG character mentioned earlier).
@keenanhorrell4511
Жыл бұрын
Loved it Mike and Crew. I know this must have been tough doing everything at home, excited to see what you can do once you're back in the office. See at the sub-a-thon!
@ArmageddonEvil
Жыл бұрын
World of Warcraft has taught people the wrong thing for decade, rush to the endgame.
@melissas4874
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with enjoying each MMO for what it is. Going to another MMO and playing it like WoW (insert other MMO's) is like going to a chinese restaurant and ordering a hamburger - just go to McDonalds. People don't want to go in blind because of 16:33 and partially because the word "failure" is assumed to be only negative. Failures, even in the research field, are not a negative if you can glean some information and learn from them. So if you fail a mechanic in the game, think about why you failed it and if you can't figure it out ask others or look it up. I think this is one reason I started disliking DBM - in my career an experiment "fails" and we learn more about our subject. If I can do it IRL, then I don't think doing it in a game is a big deal. People also want to reflect an appearance of being a hardcore or professional gamer when they are not. The only hardcore raiders (to me) are in the WFR - I view everyone else as casuals trying to keep up an appearance. Playing with others does not always make your life easier - it's easy for a streamer to say this since everyone wants to play with them. Please remember we don't all get welcomed as much as you or other streamers do (even if FFXIV).
@sagacity1071
Жыл бұрын
Play 10000 hours? Seems like the first thing you shouldnt do
@bosunbones.8815
Жыл бұрын
And then.... "Does it get good" ? 😅
@OrgusDin
Жыл бұрын
facts
@Alice_Typhon
Жыл бұрын
Honestly 10k hrs is very low now a days. I've got 1200 days played on only my warlock on WoW.
@azikielboi7105
Жыл бұрын
This, i don't understand why people categorize themselves as "mmo gamers" its such a restrictive genre, it makes it so hard to make content but refuse to play any game where they dont make "forever progress" because they need their time to feel somehow "rewarded" rather than just doing stuff thats fun.
@karamarakamarama
Жыл бұрын
@@azikielboi7105you just made up a person
@SupaFly-gx1zo
Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is that finding people to play with can be very difficult to do. Sometimes I want to push rating in PvP, so I'll host some 2s or 3s groups, add a couple people that I mesh well with, but then they invite me to do stuff every day and I don't enjoy logging in to just want to do some dailies and chill, while getting invited by my guild to do M+ or the megadungeon, or some BGs or arenas. Some weeks I don't even like playing the game and take a break, it feels impossible to find a group of people to do things with in MMOs unless you are HYPER focussed into a certain niche or you're friends with them 24/7 outside of the game too. My social battery is already limited being split between the friend groups I've had since school, a guild, and irl stuff. M+ is fun, but not when you spam it all day, and if you don't then the people you could add to ask to do random keys are going to be doing them when you aren't around and want to do keys a lot higher than your comfort zone.
@DaWoWzer
Жыл бұрын
MMOs are like the Chinese restaurants of gaming, Everyone has THEIR restaurant, no matter how much your friend raves about their place you'll go there maybe once there with them just to humor them but you never have any real intention on switching. Unless your Chinese restaurant starts skimping on the meat and loading the box full of just veggies or you get sick from there 3 or 4 times in a row no one is actually going to stop going to theirs.
@Razor4884
Жыл бұрын
Eve Online truly is a... unique experience. It's made for a very specific variety of people, in my opinion. xD
@nicolaromanini5138
Жыл бұрын
why changing the name and thumbnail of every video you do??
@Randalftown
Жыл бұрын
The thing that made me enjoy MMOs was to stop listening to people's opinions about them, especially well informed people. I like going in blind and just enjoying myself until I stop enjoying myself. There are so many MMOs that I've played and enjoyed for hundreds of hours and then learned afterwards that they were "bad" because the endgame content was lacking or it was pay to win or it was needlessly grindy or the community was toxic, and I think if I had heard that beforehand, I wouldn't have played. I've realised that I don't care about any of that. I just like playing MMOs and I will usually quit when I reach the end game, and sometimes long before that.
@cknable
Жыл бұрын
Guild Wars 2 is the BEST MMO currently out there. It respects your time and money. And it an amazing game! Give it a shot.
@bondsmatthew
Жыл бұрын
MDI THESE BALLS
@UltimaKeyMaster
Жыл бұрын
I still massively disagree with the playing with other people part. It has the attitude of "it's a massively multiplayer game for a reason." Okay and who is anyone to tell me I can't try and play a game by myself? You don't get results by just telling those people to just do it. Ever. Some people just don't want to, and you have to accept those people exist and stop treating some of those categories like they're some kind of problem. Yeah, some people are shy. So...what is yelling at them to force them to break out of that going to do other than basically telling them "this game isn't for you, go away"? That's why trying to play WoW is absolute hell for me. It relies on letting people deny you from playing content for reasons they can just make up, while FF14, Destiny, ESO- Actually, you know what, here's my overall hot take: People who hate matchmaking systems for MMO's and always say things were better when things were forced to be more social hate introverts and would rather they just leave and never come back. They're mad because I'm actually allowed to play FF14's entire story as an actual RPG instead of yanking an introvert out and expecting them to function. I got around to an FC in FF14 *because the game let me play it* a ton to get a feel for it while at no point saying it's damn near required to get ANYTHING done. It's literally only convenience factors. That's how you get people to socialize. Not by not letting them play shit, and certainly not by telling them to just get over it. And it's kind of ironic to demonstrate the good point of trying to queue for M+ while also missing massive reasons why people play solo. The whole segment comes off as "just get over it" to me. No, you can't just expect that.
@leonardceres9061
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you just want a beautiful world to explore with a ton of different activities and a feeling of life to your surroundings, then guild wars two is the way to go, because while World of Warcraft is pretty to look at in many respects, most of the zones are dead, and you would be hard-pressed to find anybody in any of them except the latest expansion zones
@Morphen188
Жыл бұрын
PREACH!!! I can't express how glad I am that you are back! I have watched every single video you made of GW2 since I moved on to that one after WoW but I love everything you are doing with every game and how your video skits are progressing. I actually laugh out loud to some of them. Keep up the GREAT work mate.
@Eric998765
6 ай бұрын
Preach (like normal) is correct in all of this. To not write my own essay, I'll just pick out the going in blind part. For the most part I can't understand why everyone Googles "Best build in X". Type any game name in Google and one of the first autocomplete is "best build" or "strongest class". The only exception for me would be if you literally have never played a certain genre before. For example, I quit Pillars of Eternity after five hours because I had never played DnD nor a CRPG, so my party was trash and basically bricked my playthrough. As a gamer dad I didn't want to replay five hours of a game with a very slow start so I just quit. Luckily the hype behind BG3 got me to replay Pillars and after a few hours learning DnD mechanics on the wiki I played and had an absolute blast. I still didn't use anyone else's build though, I just came up with my own composition.
@markup6394
Жыл бұрын
15:07 --- I play for over 3 years now and I agree: the map (coloring) is bad. There is no reason at all why you cant decern landmass from the ocean or see rivers! As for navigating the city... it could be improved... I find my way around easily now, but only since I finished all job quests and other side content in every city: leaning it on the go is the only way - and you will get lost constantly in the beginning. The teleport network in every city is a life saver but it should be possible to traverse the cities without keeping ones eyes glued to the minimap. I hope (we can always hope, right?) that with the grafics update in 7.0 all old cities get updated as well and "knit" together. After all, it was the PS3 limitations that made them cut the city maps in half from the start. Amen to each and every of your points. I would like to write an essay of how often I hear about people who try to rush through only to get burned out and quitting... but its late and i'm tired so... :)
@RiogaRivera
Жыл бұрын
the real misconception here is pretending that a famous streamer compared to a normal player will have the same experience when playing an mmo...
@zElement7
Жыл бұрын
COPIUM Destiny 2 raids someday
@OnlyToad
Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see what you think of Runescape, I think you're in for a bit of culture shock on that one
@Draugheim
Жыл бұрын
WoW has the best starting experience? Really? I can get by the starting zone alone, sure, but as you level up and outlevel content, gear and whatnot its a really shitty experience. You dont get to finish barely anything before you have outleveled the zone or whatnot. I actually think it's one of the worst starting experience, if you look at the journey to max level as a whole and not just the very first zone. Check out videos of people that has a video series from their experience, it's really bad. Great video though!
@printscreenkey
Жыл бұрын
"your friends in the end game will always be there" that's the thing mike, all of my friends quit a month after starting to play a game, so I never rush because they'll be gone anyway
@Methedreen
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit, SWG? Keen to see your take on that, it's where I first started my MMO life back in the day.
@tsubasaroku3354
Жыл бұрын
Going in blind is the best..It’s why I always play FF14’s new 24 man raids the moment it comes out, it’s so much fun dead bodies laying around and everyone screaming and laughing together
@Regiwulf
Жыл бұрын
Bro the preconcep is so true. I don't know if other ppl realize it but you actually have your own notion or standard of what an mmo should have and behave like. That alone may make you hesitant to try others over your main. This idea affected me liking guild wars 2 for years and thought (ff14 does it better). I was so wrong 😂 and now I'm making up for all the years I lost not playing gw2
@croneryveit9070
Жыл бұрын
OMG DID YOU JUST SAY SWG? Tears in my eyes.
@robertchodorowski8545
Жыл бұрын
I love how New World doesn't exist in the world of Preach, and I support that reality
@RZethusE
Жыл бұрын
EchoPreach is best Preach 😂🤣 The hell man!! Good show! Amazing video!
@scotaloo77g73
Жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why people hate on the FFXIV map. It's way more accurate than most of the maps.
@dianak6537
Жыл бұрын
Seeing your quest destination be the arrow to the next zone over and thinking it’s in a different spot entirely because of where the icon appears. Not being able to hide side quests or apply filters. The radio toggles for sub-zones that don’t look interactable. No clear way to zoom out to less detail Edit: ok the “Display region/world maps” button appears to zoom out one level, so at least the feature exists. All 10px of it. Why can’t it be in a right-click menu though??
@fokas.automotive4768
Жыл бұрын
its shit.
@chrisanderson7820
Жыл бұрын
I feel like being a multi-MMO vet has made me a much happier player. I have vast hours in more than half a dozen MMOs (and smaller playtimes in a dozen other MMOs) and you can see how every MMO is good at doing 75% of what we imagine a perfect MMO to be, but each MMO covers a different 75% than its companions. It makes you more understanding of an MMO's failures and more appreciative of its benefits. You often go to MMO "communities" and listen to deranged fans who only play one MMO with absolutely ZERO sense of relativity and sometimes they are complaining about that one feature of that MMO which is actually its strong point putting it ahead of its competition. They haven't learned any mistakes from the past or have a broad enough perspective and don't understand why the devs made a choice to go X way because the alternative is WAAAAY worse. I highly recommend and don't regret moving around MMOs because ALL the large successful ones are doing SOMETHING right and you don't need to be a demented tribalist.
@KyleRoller24
Жыл бұрын
Please old school RuneScape I would love to see what mike thinks about it
@Brimstarr
Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video, great job preach and team!
@DonaldTurner
Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike! thanks! Agreed
@KurceQ
Жыл бұрын
Step 1 - dont play modern wow
@volishun
Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike and team. I definitely agree with your point about playing with others. There are so many times where I wish I could run some group content outside of spamming the dungeon/raid finder. I just have horrible anxiety about playing with others over the fear of messing up and getting flamed.
@Zedman3333
Жыл бұрын
haha , everythings "just world of warcraft" , ive tried to break from it and it is a really hard transition, TBH ive tried so many new MMO,s and i just cbf,d learning everything again its not like jumping from cod to cs to battlefield fairy easy transitions (
@dafire9634
Жыл бұрын
"If there is a will, there is a way" Is an old saying, meaning that if you truly want to break out of the wow shell, you'll be able to do it, even if its hard, if it takes months or so
@Zedman3333
Жыл бұрын
@@dafire9634 familiarity is the hard one to let go of.. i love wow to much, having a break from it is key for me, and yeah i probably dont want to break away from it either..
@TheAssirra
Жыл бұрын
Man you had a complete riot with the "elite voice" lol.
@Wastingsometimehere
Жыл бұрын
People who played WoW: Everything is just WoW Me who never played WoW: Having fun with every other game dodging WoW forever Perhaps my bias is different than most people reading this, but I am fine dodging Blizzard though I respect what WoW did.
@Kaelon28
Жыл бұрын
eve online...yea thats pretty much it😂
@KevsShwaShwa
Жыл бұрын
Just play if it’s fun. Don’t do dumb time wasting grinds if it’s slow. If you have fun, play until it’s not fun.
@Medusa_plays
Жыл бұрын
No one can have seriously ever said a WoW mount was better than a GW2 one 🤨
@dafire9634
Жыл бұрын
They can, if they never played it and just heard about it
@mebrandonb
Жыл бұрын
I had to laugh out loud when you said lfr wasn't stressful. I've never had more toxic encounters in wow than whenever I ventured into lfr. It SHOULDN'T be stressful, but holy god the people in those groups are actually insane on all levels of experience. The players there just because it's their main source of endgame are rude, the experienced players just there to flex or farm an op trinket are rude, the people farming xmog are mostly fair but even they have had moments of pure psychotic toxicity lol p.s. great video, lots of great points especially about grouping with people. You don't have to love everyone, but find your people! It makes every game so much better.
@RealTaIk
Жыл бұрын
I played ff14 when alot of WoW people came to the game and damn, doing all those dungeons blind was so much fun especially because everyone in my party was always new to the game and we had to figure everything out ourselves. Playing ff14 was one of the best mmo experiences I had in a long time because it didn't feel like I had to rush to endgame as fast as possible and even if I wanted to rush, it would take a really long time to get through it unless I'm buying a boost. After playing ff14 I tried WoW classic and while the leveling was alot of fun, the dungeon experience was horrible. Not only were the dungeons really confusing, alot of people didn't even wanted to do the whole dungeon they just rushed to the boss and rushed out of it again. Afterwards I played WoW retail, the leveling was horrible, the dungeon was less confusing but people rushed through it even more, without even saying hi. I might as well could have played with bots, in classic we at least had to stop to refill mana and this at least made us talk to each other.
@NCISCherno
7 ай бұрын
10,000 hours? Get wrecked mate. That barrier was crossed before Y2K knocked the servers offline for a few days. Come back when you got some experience mate.
@heatrayzvideo3007
Жыл бұрын
The social aspect of mmo's was destroyed by elitist inpatient toxic players and not so much lfr or any other convinence. Too many guides also mean players don't ask each questions or really figure anything out. Modern classic WoW players level using guides then PayPal gdkp
@niclastname
Жыл бұрын
"What do I even do here? Why is Star Wars here?" Was the fucking funniest line I've ever heard lmao.
@Aiphares
Жыл бұрын
12:40 true, in that regard the WoW Starter experience is actually quite good. UNTIL the newbies leave the new starting area and they get hit by an absolute confusion train as they are hurled into BfA, confronted with characters they dont know, thrown into a story that makes absolutely no sense to them and Adressed of the Champion of their faction. For lore reason it would be cooler to start with Cataclysm or at least have a pop up they please go to chromie now PS you will start in other expansions so you will be confused. Maybe even tell the newbie the natural order of the expansions
@Chronoic
Жыл бұрын
Lets be honest if all those games that came out that WoW players keep claiming are "WoW killers" lets be honest only WoW players claim they were to overhype themself into going to those new games. Would go into those game not expecting a WoW killer, or a WoW clone, those game would be so much better now with years of development and in return would of turn WoW into a better game now too. But because everyone kept going into those game expecting WoW those games never got the time to develop. Only reason FFXIV and GW2 made it out is because they push on even after failure and had the backup of big studios, but those other MMO that had to shut down.
@Woryen
Жыл бұрын
Very well put! And it's so sad seeing the 'usual' doomer mmo streamers, filled with bitterness and resentment not realizing what you said. I feel like the loud-and-bitter mmo community is the one gatekeeping themselves from good mmos to develop.
@Lovehandels
Жыл бұрын
The "this is World of Warcraft but with-" had me laughing good!
@Salbeira
Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more ... except ... you mentioned you want to check out runescape ... The thing with Runescape in terms of "approach other players" is that Runescape is a completely economy based game. Almost all items to get you one point of progression to another are bought on the market and that keeps being true for almost the everything in the game. Thus money is, except if you play "Ironman" which would mean you explicitly tell the game you want to refrain from interacting with other people, the sole and only motivator in Runescape. And as such, scamming other players out of their money is for a huge population of the playerbase the one thing that gets you ahead. Not only that but the community has built a horrible wall of victim blaming around this concept, even going so far as to make it a right of passage to get scammed. The same goes for similar games like Hypixel Skyblock which are heavily inspired by Runescape and its gamestyle and I would expect most crafting / gathering / skillbased / economybased MMOs are like this. As such, if you want to start playing Runescape or OSRS ... do yourself a favour: DO NOT INTERACT WITH ANY FOREIGN PLAYER. ONLY ENTRUST YOUR LIFE AND YOUR GEAR TO PEOPLE YOU KNOW YOU CAN PUNCH IN THE FACE PERSONALLY.
@loganboyd10
Жыл бұрын
The skit had me in tears “you’re gonna ditch me” “I won’t, you’re my brother and my soul”
@derrickpanciera5644
Жыл бұрын
MDI deez balls!
@Icycrits
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, Preach trying RuneScape? While that probably means you'll be trying RS3, consider giving OSRS a shot. Don't be fooled into thinking it's just the WoW Classic of RS, it's its own game with its own development team that makes content that simply doesn't exist in RS3 and it is personally my favorite MMO of all time. It's what Classic WoW *should* strive to be. Just look into playing it on a client called Runelite which is basically a custom client supported by Jagex themselves that helps address a lot of the QOL pain points the game has being based on a 2007 version of the game.
@Mooinator3000
8 ай бұрын
I feel like it's a tie between FFXIV and Destiny for worst starter experience imo. Destiny fucks it up by just shoving everything at you completely out of order and is just a mess, and then for FFXIV it's just not fun to play for a ridiculously long amount of time (granted, I started in SB so before they slightly trimmed down the ARR quests)
@kn0bhe4d
Жыл бұрын
I laughed when you said Bethesda partnered with AMD to bring the best performance lmfao. Starfield has no DLSS or XeSS because of the AMD sponsorship, and it only has the shitty FSR. That's the exact opposite of "bringing the best performance possible".
@drakebane9527
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the topic about boosts for a game: GW2 is different and I would highly advise taking the boost. This is because of how "questing" works and how it works to play old content. A lvl 80 boost in gw2 doesn't take away ANY content in the game. It simply allows you to get right into customizing your character the way you want and then going from there. The lvling in GW2, even though it's fun, I would say is not even close to the fun experience you can have in endgame.
@aquapendulum
Жыл бұрын
The description of Eve Online's new player experience sounds about right.
@clayskii
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you try Old School RuneScape! I've dabbled in a lot of MMOs and it's definitely one of my favorites. Very unique perspective.
@lyrithvalthier2236
Жыл бұрын
If FFXIV had client-side, instantaneous activation of inputs for executing actions, then applying server correction afterward like WOW does, it'd steal the remaining pool of players that haven't already switched to it from WOW and other MMOs. Cause then it's combat would be better than WOWs combat.
@RobFox-c3p
6 ай бұрын
going in blind - this just happened like 3 weeks ago, a friend saw me playing wow and wanted to jump in and do keys, i said "dude it's gonna take a long time to level up, get geared, and get the skill to do +22, 23, etc....." "nah dude i got this!" quit in 3 weeks because he wanted to jump right into +20 and higher and kept dying and wiping the party. it takes time to get good, lol
@kohlicoide2258
Жыл бұрын
I rly notice that i never had this problem, my first MMO was Lotro back then.. then i switch to wow for cata.. quit in the end.. go swtor.. play GW2 in the same time.. then back to wow.. eso for a specific time.. then FF14.. then wow.. then swtor for a little bit.. etc.. i loves MMOs but im not a guy how plays just one MMO for 10 years straigth.. some people say im not loyal, but when i dont have fun playing a GAME i dont see a reason to play it, atm i paused WoW and play FF14 again and sometimes Lotro, i always try to give every MMO a fair change how their system works, and i find in every MMO some things i enjoy most... or is the best system for me.. etc, just embrance the unique features of every MMO.. and dont want all the time that every MMO is a clon of WoW
@lilacecatFTW
Жыл бұрын
Ive played around with all the MMO's talked about in this video. I've played wow since 2007 and played guild wars 2 when it launched and played a bit later. I however only play wow whenever the new xpac comes or near the end to get the full experience. The community in that game is extreamly disapointing now. Everyone is rude, the gear score checking, and the weird dungeon score system is awful. I now stick with guild wars 2. Combat is way more impactful and there is always something to do and everyone is stupidly nice. I don't recall meeting anyone even slightly rude in that game. Just finished getting my skyscale mount done so I have a whole lot of stuff to work on atm. From finishing up legendaries to just working on a little achievement like reading lore or collecting cosmetics. I don't like final fantasy's mmo. The combat is just awful imo. Maybe its because I played a summoner and it felt like the combat casting was laggy or something but I didnt enjoy it. The comunity looks fun but I just didn't get to that point of it.
@kelathos
Жыл бұрын
"Play with others" -> "But I am not saying join a guild" Uhhh, what? I will only play WoW content with a guild group. Exclusively. Pugs treat people like trash and I want nothing to do with them. Not ever.
@dreamermagister8561
Жыл бұрын
I would like to suggest, kind sirs, if u dont mind. The Star Wars the Old Republic, MMORPG experience as part of your extended Project MMO.
@xezzee
Жыл бұрын
Guild Wars 2 is known to not have holy trinity. In reality GW2 does not have raditional Tanks that Aggro enemies but they do have in fact have traditional Healers that heal the party but usually it is Area of Effect healing 😂 Guild Wars 2 combat is also misssing Mana/Rage and most abilities are just on cooldown with few exceptions. It feels so different when you don't have to manage Mana at all and to click frost Bolt, frost Bolt, frost Bolt 😂
@viridianloom
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what his criticisms of the FFXIV map are. FFXIV is in a bitch of a lull right now due to a boring patch cycle, so lately I've been playing WoW to kind of get perspective of the other side of things. I was actually struggling with its map today because I was in a large city and I could see all the vendors on my minimap, but not on the actual map screen. I couldn't find any buttons to reveal additional icons, so I was like "Uh... how am I supposed to find something in this city besides wandering around and looking at my minimap?" I haven't really had any issues with FFXIV's map by comparison. The minimap and the map are the same source, so any icons appeared on one appear on the other. I think maybe the only thing I can think of is that its harder to view the scope of the world because its a bit fucky with the way you try to look at other zones that you're not in?
@paulschierl5295
Жыл бұрын
just 10k preach? thats not that much :D but it always comes down to your first mmo for me it was daoc - thats where i had the most fun, the best pvp, and to this day the most long time friends made official and freeshards combined i spent about 16k hours in daoc about 13k in wow age of conan, warhammer online, hellgate london, secret world, lost ark, ff 14, archage, rift, guild wars 1 +2,... in every single one of those mmos i spent at least 500 hours but to this day - daoc is my goat
@kolluor
10 ай бұрын
Got me from the start. "What is this? It's just like dragonflight?" *Beautiful griffon dive* "...but it's worse?"
@renegeeder
Жыл бұрын
Thanks AMD, no DLSS, just worse FSR 2. When a game is gonna run shit (and it likely will) without it, I would really prefer DLSS.
@SticksAandstonesBozo
Жыл бұрын
I have a weird thing with people who assume to extra degrees. Like when someone plays an mmo so much they become famous for it and build entire businesses around it but ….. they don’t even try MMOs like at all. I just know that I can’t be around someone like that IRL. My energy bounces off them like backwards magnets. It’s so foreign to me I cant understand it even a little.
@faulty1679
Жыл бұрын
Started playing classic FFXI recently having never touched it before, have been doing pretty well on all these points and having a great time. ...All of them except "Play with Other People." That skit hit way too close to home, even though everyone I have interacted with has been pleasant so far. It's intimidating playing a near-ancient game as such, full of players that seemingly know everything, when you are a complete newb. 😔
@UltimaKeyMaster
Жыл бұрын
Honestly that segment came off as "just get over it" to me. And I couldn't disagree more with how he framed it, like he viewed wanting to play by yourself as a negative for whatever reason.
@schidtstain
Жыл бұрын
You shit on WoW but promote Starfield, a disgustingly pieced together abomination of a game seeking success just by depending on a studio's name. Kinda hypocritical innit?
@mos5678
Жыл бұрын
Oh god, That 3:45 stirs up so many bad memories. WoW, Rift, BDO and Final Fantasy. Always getting roped into the games where the guys think of the game as a second job.
@condragon2251
Жыл бұрын
I am 100% here for the Preach x Star Wars Galaxies crossover episode
@Aiphares
Жыл бұрын
16:57 love the little easter egg in intonation :D EMOTIONAL DAAAMAGE
@Menky90
Жыл бұрын
Played wow for over 20 years but I think it’s trash compared to ffxiv which I’ve only been playing for 5 years.
@GamerNym
11 ай бұрын
Immediately have to comment on this. 15:44 - 17:30 This is how I am with fucking everything in life. I feel so seen right now. Hell one of the reasons I picked up FF14 was to try and force myself to deal with that anxiety.
@Emeralda81
11 ай бұрын
Eve Online skit was only 8 seconds long, but showed new player experience in that game perfectly. xD Take my like and sub!
@this.is.a.username
Жыл бұрын
tbf blizz did a better job with their dragonflight than ANet did with griffon and skyscale, i hate using them. however, the fact that you can just stay up in the air forever in any other part of the game means DF is just ridiculous.
@mahatmaandi2347
11 ай бұрын
Number 2 is the most important part!! I told everybody I know to not follow a wowhead guide when classic launched and rather experience the game. All who did thanked me - all others quite rather early because they didnt understand what the game was about.
@jlpowell51
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the obvious answer to What YOU Shouldn't Do is: Play 10,000 Hours of MMOs.
@norightturn7047
Жыл бұрын
The FFXIV map is so terrible that I can no longer read any normal, halfway-sane map. It's completely broken something in my brain. So if a game has a great map I'm instantly lost. If it has a bad map then I'm good.
@Wyrsa
Жыл бұрын
That such a video is even needed boggles my mind. @00:40 I know you're just acting but I also know that there's still people with that exact attitude out there, and it makes me shake my head and actually wonder if there's something wrong with you
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